Linux-Misc Digest #997, Volume #20 Sun, 11 Jul 99 09:13:12 EDT
Contents:
QT 2.0 ("Marvin")
Re: PPP CHAP/PAP - Red Hat 5.2 (Floyd Davidson)
Caldera2.2 KDE Mounting problem ("Sue")
Caldera2.2 KDE Time problem ("Sue")
Re: PPP CHAP/PAP - Red Hat 5.2 (Anita Lewis)
New Amiga OS to use Linux Kernel ("HenryK")
Re: Linux and Memory (Ilkka Ollakka)
Caldera2.2 KDE Sound problem ("Sue")
UML software for Linux? (Nicolas Weidmann)
sis agp 8mo probs (magic)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Anthony Ord)
Can Linux read FAT32 partitions (Eduardo M Kalinowski)
Re: tar always thinks it is 1969 (Julian Thompson)
Second Stage Ramdisk (HANG) (Hazard =?iso-8859-1?Q?=AE?=)
Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive (Thomas)
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (DeAnn Iwan)
internal modem for Toshiba 7020CT (Jim Dai)
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From: "Marvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: QT 2.0
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:20:39 +0530
Is there a rpm available for the X version of QT2.0?
Some pointers please. Also, list some good sites on QT programming.
I need this for building the interface for a distributed robotics
application.
Thanks,
Marvin.
mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: PPP CHAP/PAP - Red Hat 5.2
Date: 11 Jul 1999 08:55:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[emailed and posted]
Chriseli de Rama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>After an excruciating interrogation with an ATT Techie, I have finally
>received a pertinent information (I think). The techie said they use PPP
>CHAP. He would not tell me if they use NT servers because he assured me
>that the information would not affect the connection process.
He is right about that. (You are probably directly connected to
a USR Total Control modem, which is using an SGI box to validate
your login.)
>I'm now having trouble setting up CHAP/PAP PPP with the HOWTO-PPP. Is
>there anybody here that can give me tips on how to setup CHAP/PAP or has
>successfully established a connection with ATT with their linux PCs?
The trick with CHAP is having the right /etc/ppp/chap-secrets file
entry, and calling pppd with the right arguments. The chap-secrets
entry should look like this:
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" * "hivbfag-bgpoyev"
Where the first field is the userid they have given you, and the
last one is the password for it. Then when pppd is called it
must have a "name [EMAIL PROTECTED]" argument. I'm not
sure just what your particular ppp-on script looks like and
cannot tell you exactly how to integrate that into it. Mine
would look like this:
NAME="name [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
...
connect="chat ${DEBUGCHAT} -t 100 -l LCK..${PORT} -f ${CHATSCRIPT}"
pppd ${NAME} /dev/${PORT} 38400 -detach passive connect "${connect}" &
You can get more information in the log entries from pppd by
adding "kdebug 7" and "debug" lines to your /etc/ppp/options
file temporarily.
Floyd
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Caldera2.2 KDE Mounting problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:37:40 +1000
Firstly, thank you very much to all those Linux gurus who have taken the
time to answer my previous postings. Your answers have helped me a lot and I
am slowly starting to understand a few (a very few) basic concepts of Linux.
Your answers have also partially fixed my mounting problem (drive mounting
that is). However, I still want to be able to access my other drives without
having to type additional commands.
Here is a copy of my fstab file. I have added the two last lines as advised
by other Linux users, which has made things a little easier. In addition to
adding these lines, I have also created 2 new folders (Drive_C and Drive_D)
as sub folders of the /mnt directory.
/dev/hdc1 / ext2 defaults 1 1
/dev/hdc2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy msdos defaults,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hda1 /mnt/Drive_C defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /mnt/Drive_D defaults 0 0
Despite the addition of the two added lines, I still have to mount the
drives every time I restart the system. This is what I type at a command
prompt:
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/Drive_C
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/Drive_C
Having typed those last two lines I can then access my other hard drives
from the KDE File Manager.
Question:
Is there a Linux equivalent of the autoexec.bat file that I could place
those mount statements in?
I don't have a programming background, nor am I an overly Windows/Dos
experienced person. Consequently, could your answers be as step-by-step as
possible given my limited ability and the fact that I am way out of my
depth.
Thanks in advance,
Sue ;-)
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From: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Caldera2.2 KDE Time problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:38:08 +1000
Firstly, thank you very much to all those Linux gurus who have taken the
time to answer my previous postings. Your answers have helped me a lot and I
am slowly starting to get a basic understanding of a few (a very few)
concepts of Linux.
My problem this time is that Linux will not keep correct time, i.e. No
matter how many times I reset the clock to the correct time, it always loses
2 hours when I reboot. I know my clock and battery are ok as they keep
perfect time in Dos/Windows etc. So my clock is always 2 hours behind. I
have also set my location, which is Melbourne Australia.
Any suggestions (besides leaving Melbourne Australia)?
My installation is Open Linux Caldera 2.2 with KDE.
I don't have a programming background, nor am I an overly experienced in
Windows or Dos. Consequently, could your answers be as step-by-step as
possible given my limited ability and the fact that I am a mere female in a
decidedly male domain.
Thanks in advance,
Sue ;-)
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From: Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP CHAP/PAP - Red Hat 5.2
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:50:22 GMT
I used this to set up my CHAP.
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
Anita
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From: "HenryK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Amiga OS to use Linux Kernel
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:37:45 +1000
� � OPEN LETTER TO THE COMMUNITY
============================================================================
----
Linux Announcement
Dear Amigans,
After months of research and in-depth discussions with all of our technology
partners we have decided to use Linux as the primary OS kernel for the new
Amiga Operating Environment (OE). I know this decision is a shock to many of
you given the previous announcements and activities relative to QNX. This
was a very complicated and difficult decision to make and I assure you that
I didn't make this decision without a significant amount of research and
deliberation. We have been researching Linux since February but didn't
finalized our decision until several weeks ago. We were planning to
communicate it to the Amiga community in the technology brief that will be
released in the next few days.
I am pressed to communicate the Linux decision before the technology brief
because of information released by QNX in the last few days. This
information had not been reviewed or approved for release by Amiga. In light
of our Linux decision, this information is confusing and misleading so I
would like to take the time to clarify the situation. I can't disclose any
details of the Amiga/QNX discussions because of legally binding
confidentiality agreements but I can talk to you about our decision to use
the Linux kernel. I think that you will agree that this is the right
decision once you understand the reasons for this decision.
Before I continue, I should mention that our technology decision does not
reflect negatively on QNX. I believe that QNX is a good company with great
technology. I just believe that Linux gives us a better chance of executing
our plans successfully.
The decision to use QNX as our OS partner on our next generation multimedia
convergence computer (MCC) was made late last year. When I took over as
president of Amiga in February of this year, I initiated an in-depth review
of existing Amiga plans and decisions. As president of Amiga I had to make
sure that we were defining a strategy and an execution plan that would allow
Amiga and the Amiga community to be successful. We reviewed our strategy,
architecture decisions, technology partners, and execution plans. During
this review period we also added a number of very talented and experienced
people to help us finalize our technology and product decisions. I am
confident that we now have a solid and exciting plan that people can have
confidence in.
Linux has been picking up substantial momentum over the past year as a
viable, open OS alternative in the marketplace. This momentum, the growing
commitment to Linux applications from a wide variety of software vendors,
and the growing availability of Linux device drivers from hardware vendors,
makes it a compelling candidate. Additionally, with all of the significant
component suppliers putting resources on writing drivers for Linux it was
difficult to get them to port to yet another operating system. Using the
Linux OS as a foundation for our Amiga OE allows us to leverage a
significant amount of available software drivers and utilities. This allows
us to quickly support multiple graphics cards and other peripherals.
Given the above-mentioned advantages, we decided to do an in-depth technical
analysis of Linux to determine if it was a suitable OS kernel for our new
Amiga operating environment (OE). As we ported parts of our higher level
operating environment and AmigaObjectTM architecture to Linux, we discovered
some significant performance advantages in the Linux kernel in areas such as
distributed object messaging across a network (up to 10X the performance of
Windows NT). Although Linux configurations can be very large in size, the
core pieces of the Linux kernel are actually very small and efficient. In
considering hardware requirements we also found companies working on
hardware components that were optimized for the Linux kernel. Additionally,
Linux is probably the most stable operating system available in the market.
After months of in-depth research we were confident that we could build an
extremely exciting next generation Amiga based on the Linux OS kernel.
Does this mean that the next generation Amiga will not be unique? Absolutely
not! Remember that the OS kernel is only one component of the new Amiga OE
and the hardware is unique. The revolutionary nature of the Amiga OE is in
the way it extends the traditional operating system to provide a host
environment for a new class of portable applications - applications that
exist in a pervasive networked computing environment. We will be integrating
multiple technologies including an efficient windowing environment and a
unique user interface.
In summary, we decided to use Linux because of the incredible momentum and
the fact that it is solid technology and a good foundation for our new Amiga
OE. Additionally, the Linux community is an impressive force that we should
be aligned with. We share many common values and objectives with the Linux
community. Using Linux as our OS kernel allows us to build a unique and
revolutionary operating environment while leveraging the enormous momentum
of Linux.
The soon to be released technology brief will further explain our
architecture and plans for integrating all of the selected technology. Once
you read it, I am confident that you will understand the revolutionary
nature of the next generation Amiga. I assure you that Amiga and the Amiga
community will be a driving force behind the next computer revolution.
Sincerely,
Jim Collas
President, Amiga
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ilkka Ollakka)
Subject: Re: Linux and Memory
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:30:10 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Viestiss� Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:54:35 +0000, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti:
>I'm running rh 6.0 on a P150 with 93 mb of ram. My system monitor is
>telling me that 90% of my memory is being used.
>I install "everything" during install, and there are quite a few daemons
>running, so I suspect this is the problem.
That's not problem,because linux uses allmost all unused memory in disk
cache,and gives it back if necesery,So your machines memory is speeding up
disks.command free you'll see how much is in cache etc.
I hope this helps a bit
Ilkka Ollakka
--
--
"I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the
statues that are in all the other museums."
-- Steven Wright
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From: "Sue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Caldera2.2 KDE Sound problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:36:51 +1000
Firstly, thank you very much to all those Linux gurus who have taken the
time to answer my previous postings. Your answers have helped me a lot and I
am slowly starting to understand a few (a very few) concepts of Linux.
I have progressed a little with my sound problems, I can now hear only a
very few WAV files. Some of them I hear perfectly others I can see the
player playing them but no audio. I have checked the WAV files on Windows
and they all work perfectly. There is no pattern as to why the files wont
play, such as file sizes or attribute settings etc. They are all normal. So
I believe something to be wrong with Linux. I have also made sure that the
volume setting is up at the highest setting. In a nutshell Linux thinks it's
playing the files but not a thing can be heard. I.e. The lights are on but
there's no one home. Incidentally Linux plays my CD's without any problems,
I hear them loud and clear. Am I expecting too much from Linux?
Somebody mentioned once before that the sound card might be in 8bit mode
instead of 16. However I was unable to check this as the instructions given
to test the settings did not work.
Also, when I change the mixer settings and reboot the system the mixer still
resorts to default settings. Bummer.
Any suggestions? (besides going back to Windows)
My installation is Open Linux Caldera 2.2 with KDE.
My sound card is a Creative Labs SoundBlaster PC!64
The modules loaded as per the Linux start-up routine return an ok and are as
follows:
soundcore
soundlow
sound
uart401
awe_wave
sb
I don't have a programming background, nor am I an overly experienced in
Windows or Dos. Consequently, could your answers be as step-by-step as
possible given my limited ability and the fact that I am a mere female in a
decidedly male domain.
Thanks in advance,
Sue ;-)
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:29:56 +0200
From: Nicolas Weidmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UML software for Linux?
I am looking for a UML software (like Rational Rose) which would run on
Linux, would be able to generate C++ and reverse-engineer C++.
Could you please e-mail any response to me.
Thank you.
Nicolas
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From: magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sis agp 8mo probs
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:38:09 +0000
hi, i have a slot 1 motherboard with the chipset SIS agp 3d 620 on it (
8 mo ) and have prob to configure it under X on a redhat 5.3 with kde...
if u have any idea plz help, i tried all solutions but nothing work.. tx
a lot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:14:13 GMT
On 10 Jul 1999 14:17:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph T. Adams)
wrote:
>Anthony Ord ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: >Another might be that the top X military and/or economic powers had to
>: >be involved. It's a good bet that, even back then, the U.S. would be
>: >included there even for relatively small values of X.
>:
>: What if all the top X military and economic powers were all
>: in Europe? According to your definition a European War would
>: then become a world war.
>:
>: But, let's go with your definition.
>:
>: Q. When was the First World War?
>:
>: A. Sometime in the Napoleonic Era.
>
>Nope. Read about the Roman Republic and Empire. Several of its
>conflicts, including the Punic Wars IIRC, were similar in scope, and
>even destructiveness to human life (adjusting for the smaller world
>population at the time), than WWI. And this in spite of the fact that
>Rome was unchallenged, and unchallengable, by any single external
>power.
China. The reason Rome and China never fought was due to
geographical distance. They simply could not get to each
other within a reasonable fraction of a year. Remember the
definition was that it was a World War if the top X
military/economic powers were fighting. Anything excluding
China therefore would not be a World War under that
definition.
I considered that China had fallen so far by the time of
Napoleon that it was not one of the top X military/economic
powers.
You may wish to dispute this and go for an earlier date like
(say) the Spanish Armada, whatever - the exact date of the
decline of China is a matter of conjecture. However this all
goes to prove that saying if X of the top military/economic
powers are fighting, then that is a World War is utter
crap. I hope you see that even with your own example.
>Usually, opponents like Attila and Hannibal were able to
>profit from the extreme discontent of folks in conquered territories
>that Rome already considered to be under control.
>
>Joe
Regards
Anthony
--
=========================================
| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: Eduardo M Kalinowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can Linux read FAT32 partitions
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:11:47 GMT
Can Linux (I use the 2.2.1 kernel) read Windows 98/OSR2 FAT32
partitions? If so, is there a special filesystem type to use in the
mount command (or will vfat work)?
--
Eduardo M Kalinowski
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://move.to/hp48g
ICQ 10944368
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Julian Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tar always thinks it is 1969
Date: 11 Jul 1999 12:40:33 +0100
Hi,
This is what I see:
miel:/tmp$ date
Sun Jul 11 12:37:14 BST 1999
miel:/tmp$ tar --version
tar (GNU tar) 1.12.64010
Copyright (C) 1988, 92,93,94,95,96,97,98, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
miel:/tmp$ tar --label="test" -cvvf test.tar /etc/issue
V--------- 0/0 0 1970-01-01 00:00 test--Volume Header--
tar: Removing leading `/' from absolute path names in the archive
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-11 12:16 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ tar tvf test.tar
V--------- 0/0 0 1999-07-11 12:37 test--Volume Header--
-rw-r--r-- root/root 27 1999-07-11 12:16 etc/issue
miel:/tmp$ exit
The date printed during creation is indeed (time_t)0, but when viewing the
archive contents the date on the volume header is correct...
Hope this helps,
Julian
--
Julian Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Hazard =?iso-8859-1?Q?=AE?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Second Stage Ramdisk (HANG)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:43:01 GMT
I am trying to install RedHat 6 in my Laptop via FTP.
Everything goes fine up until it starts to load the second stage ramdisk
at the start of installation. On the FTP side, I notice the second stage
ramdisk file is just under 2mb in size, but the transfer aborts when it
reaches 774k, every single time. It always aborts when it gets to 774k
of the file downloaded to the client. This is NOT a problem with my
personal FTP site as this happens when I try to install from ANY
FTP site on the internet. Is there any reason why this would be
happening ?
Am I doing something wrong that I am unaware of ?
Here are the specifications of the laptop I am trying to install onto.
Intel Pentium 75mhz
8mb ram
540mb hd
DLINK-660E PCMCIA 10mb Ethernet PC CARD
This is very annoying.
ABVH
CNA,CNE,MCP,A+
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From: Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:52:37 +0200
Same problem this side... The way I read the doc's, the parallel port
interface is proprietary, and the ftape HOWTO (in RH5.2 anyway) states
clearly that ftape *doesn't* support these devices. Do any of you fellas
have info indicating that these interfaces _are_ supported ? Someone in
our local Linux user group suggested that the interface used "some
lightweight version of SCSI" and suggested I search for ppa in the SCSI
doc's. I'm going to look there next...
TIA Thomas
Melvin Branch wrote:
>
> If you ever get an answer please e-mail me. I've been trying to get mine
> working for over 6 months. I even tried redhat support they told me, join a
> newsgroup or follow the "HOW TO" documents. Needless to say these alternates
> have been utterly useless. Hope you have better luck then I did.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris O'Neill) wrote:
> >Okay, I give up....... What's the secret???? I've been mucking for
> >two days trying to get my Ditto 2GB parallel port tape drive (LPT1) to
> >work with RedHat Linux 6.0 but haven't had any success. I've tried
> >recompiling the kernel, setting-up boot-time parameters in lilo, and
> >all sorts of other gunk. (Sigh!) And, yes, I *have* read the
> >Ftape-HOWTO and other documents, but I find them somewhat cryptic.
> >(Sigh!)
> >
> >Can someone out there who's using this drive with Linux puhleeeze send
> >me an e-mail walking me through the steps to get it going???? (Sigh!)
> >
> >Thanks, in advance, for any assistance anyone can offer.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Chris O'Neill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan)
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:16:53 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:40:11 GMT, "Binesh Bannerjee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Stephen,
>
>: A computer is a far more complicated device than an automobile. Your
>: auto does exactly one task - it moves from one place to another. A
>: computer is capable of doing hundreds of different tasks, all
>: depending on the software it runs. Each software program may be
>: capable of hundreds of functions, while an auto only has a few dozen.
>: Each software program may have a unique user interface, while even
>: comparing all brands of autos there are really only two variations of
>: one interface - standard and automatic. Individual controls may be
>: slightly different, but all autos have the same basic controls. Not so
>: with a computer. There are literally hundreds of different controls
>: available, and probably that many more that haven't been thought of
>: yet.
>
>
>But, I think that's the point... There are hundreds of ways to make
>a brake, yet people make them the same way, and so one does not _have_
>to be "automobile" literate to use a car. Ditto for steering wheel,
>and to a large extent even the internals of the car itself...
It's not how many ways there are to make a brake, it's what
you do with it (the user interface). When you drive a car, you can
basically do the following things: speed up, slow down, turn right,
turn left, speed up going backwards, slow down going backwards, turn
right going backwards, turn left going backwards. That is pretty much
it. (Let me know if I've missed anything.) Now, when you sit down at
a computer, you might have a task that is doing anything from
monitoring traffic in a worldwide network to developing a program to
simulate galaxy formation to designing an integrated chip to typing up
your report for school or work. Now, in a sense you still have a
simple interface of look at a screen/printout/output-device and press
keys or move pointers on an input device (most of the time). Most
programs/computer-tasks follow a "common" set of basic rules about
talking to ordinary i/o devices (be they keyboards, modems,
soundcards, monitor, joysticks, midi-ports.....). But it's still
pretty hard to define everything people want to do with a computer in
terms of around 8 simple tasks like turn right or turn left. I
suppose you could force them to press one of only 8 keys and disallow
any other input devices. :) But I don't think many people would buy
such a simplified computer. A computer IS more complex--at the user
interface--than a car. It is not artificially made to look more
complex by dastardly planning of its designers. It really and truly
is more complex.
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From: Jim Dai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: internal modem for Toshiba 7020CT
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 10:59:18 -0400
Toshiba Portege 7020 CT notebook
RedHat 6.0
Any chance to let Linux recognize the internal modem?
J. G. "Jim" Dai
School of Industrial and Systems Engineering
and School of Mathematics
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA 30332-0205, USA
+1-404-894-9139(O) +1-404-894-2301(Fax)
http://www.isye.gatech.edu/faculty/dai/
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