Linux-Misc Digest #993, Volume #19 Fri, 30 Apr 99 07:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Tell me how Linux boots ? (Matthew Bafford)
Re: Kernel updating (Frank Boehme)
Regular system crash ("Richard Lewin")
Re: Looking for ISO-image of redhat-6.0 (i386) (Giandomenico De Tullio)
Re: multiple X sessions (Christopher Browne)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
(Mike)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Tim Sutherland)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Tim Sutherland)
Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Tim Sutherland)
Downloading and installing Linux. ("William R. Cousert")
Tuning Linux? (Marc)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Prins Olivier)
Re: limiting background processes (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Regular system crash (C. Newport)
Re: Downloading and installing Linux. (Marc)
Re: limiting background processes (Marc Mutz)
Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux
box ? (mist)
Where to get glibc2 source... (Donn Miller)
Suse Ditr. 6.1 (beta) & Hercules Term. GLH128 ? ("Michael")
Redhat 6 & SSH ("Ron Luman")
Slackware and glibc2 (jik-)
gdb question (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Looking for ISO-image of redhat-6.0 (i386) ("Alec V. Ananchenko")
Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler (Martin Kahlert)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: Tell me how Linux boots ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:37:02 GMT
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:06:42 +300, Shimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
lucked upon a computer, and thus typed in the following:
: Cameron Spitzer wrote, along with a lot of other interesting info:
: > Linux' famous startup verbosity.
:
: is this stuff all logged anywhere??
/var/log/dmesg
Holds the bootup messages up to a point.
: thanks,
HTH,
: Shimon
--Matthew
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From: Frank Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel updating
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:01:26 +0100
Robert H. Thompson wrote:
> Any way the point of this post is to get some ideas on the simplicity or
> complications that may be encountered by upgrading to 2.1.x or 2.2.x
> kernel. So how about it? Is the upgrade(s) path that difficult. Any
> How-to's out there that will come in handy? Any How-to's for kernel
> updating in general. How painful is the path?
You certainly didn't do a web search, did you? Check out Linux HQ.
http://www.linuxhq.com/
--
Dr Frank Boehme | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
National University of Ireland, Cork | phone: +353-21-903163
Dept of Computer Science | fax: +353-21-903113
Cork, Ireland | WWW: http://yeats.ucc.ie/~fboehme/
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From: "Richard Lewin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Regular system crash
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:52:21 +0200
Hallo,
One of our servers crashes regularly (at least once a week, sometimes more
often). The server is running inn 2.2 and the latest version of bind. It
is quite heavily loaded with inn - we are receiving a full news feed.
Usually there is no indication as to why it crashed but today I saw the
following in the syslog and dmesg.
Apr 28 07:02:22 scorpio kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address 00000014
Apr 28 07:02:22 scorpio kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
Apr 28 07:02:22 scorpio kernel: *pde = 00000000
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000014
current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 00000000
Oops: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010:[<c0123e4e>]
EFLAGS: 00010207
eax: 00000000 ebx: c02ec900 ecx: 00000006 edx: 0001ffe0
esi: 00000000 edi: c4bdb900 ebp: c02ec900 esp: c000ffa4
ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Process kswapd (pid: 4, process nr: 4, stackpage=c000f000)
Stack: 000003fe c000e000 c01198f6 c02ec900 00000010 00000006 00000030
c011e4bf
00000006 00000030 00000000 c01ca6cd c000e1c1 c011e567 00000030
00000f00
c009dfb4 c04acd48 00000e00 c010733f 00000000 00000f00 c01fffd8
Call Trace: [<c01198f6>] [<c011e4bf>] [<c01ca6cd>] [<c011e567>] [<c010733f>]
Code: 8b 76 14 83 78 20 00 75 06 f6 40 18 46 74 0f 6a 00 e8 58 01
Also the kswapd process is permanently a zombie at the moment. The only way
to get it running again is to reboot.
When it crashes it still responds to ping and you can switch between the
virtual terminals but apart from that it is completely frozen. We are now
using kernel 2.2.6 but up until recently we were using 2.0.36 with exactly
the same problem. The hardware is a 333 MHz AMD processor, 256MB ram, two 9
GB scsi disks and one 6 GB IDE disk.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing it to crash so often.
I would appreciate replies by email. Thanks very much in advance.
Richard Lewin
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From: Giandomenico De Tullio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for ISO-image of redhat-6.0 (i386)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:11:19 +0200
Alec V. Ananchenko wrote:
>
> Please, mail me, where can I get it...
FTPSEARCH: redhat-6*.iso
--
Windows98: Plug (lo scanner USB) and Pray (che non crashi il sistema)
Microsoft Outlook : dove vuoi vuoi vuoi vuoi vuoi postare oggi?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: multiple X sessions
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:21:59 GMT
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:44:00 +0100, JACK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i remember reading "somewhere" that you can have two Xsessions running
>at the same time. i.e one on <alt>-f7 and another on <alt>-f8 ....or
>similar.....
>could any one tell me how to do this or at least point me in the right
>direction.
Many (most?) window managers offer the ability to switch between
virtual desktops in one manner or another. Tell us about your
favorite window manager, and we may be able to tell you how to
accomplish that which you want...
--
`I am convinced that interactive systems will never displace batch
systems for many applications.' - Brooks, _The Mythical Man-Month_ (And
this does indeed seem true. MVS/CICS systems have *NOT* gone away...)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/xwindows.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:53:38 GMT
On 24 Apr 1999 09:02:34 -0400, "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Citation corrected; please post with a valid mail address.
>
>(Staring at $PATH...)
>Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
snipped
Thanks for your reply. I'd appreciate it if you didn't change my email
address though. It's not your call how I post it.
Thanks
mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 30 Apr 1999 08:20:04 GMT
In article <IX3W2.230$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, T.E.Dickey wrote:
>Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'm having a problem with 'screen' in Debian GNU/Linux 2.1.
>
>is that 3.7.6? (that's current)
Yes.
>> With mutt and dselect, scrolling messes up the screen (it appears lines that
>> should be erased or overwritten are not). By changing TERM to screen-w, this
>> was fixed. I have been unable to determine the difference in screen or
>> screen-w that causes this.
>
>I'd check on dselect, but haven't been able to find a tar file that
>contains it (no, I'm _not_ downloading all of Debian to look for it ;-)
I grabbed the screen.ti file from the potato ncurses source file, mutt and
dselect work under this.
>> Lynx and slrn have problems with the background (where no characters are
>> written) being black (the normal console colour). Outside of screen this is
>> the same as the background of the text, grey. I thought the "bce" terminfo
>> setting might correct this, but it doesn't seem to have made a difference.
>
>> Lynx and slrn are using slang while mutt and dselect use ncurses.
>
>that's a shame (lynx works fine in 'screen' with ncurses -- but screen
>doesn't really support bce, so anything that uses slang will malfunction
>in screen).
It doesn't? That explains it then. I found lynx with ncurses to be horribly slow
when scrolling compared to slang.
<snip>
So the "bce" problem is a slang problem then?
--
meterologist, n.:
One who doubts the established fact that it is
bound to rain if you forget your umbrella.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 30 Apr 1999 08:20:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Lamb wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:13:12 GMT, T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
>>I'd check on dselect, but haven't been able to find a tar file that
>>contains it (no, I'm _not_ downloading all of Debian to look for it ;-)
>
> Hmmm, you're right, it doesn't appear to be in the sources tree on the
>quick search I made for it. One would expect it to be in base, admin, utils
>or maybe even misc.
Screen is in misc. I tried out the potato version as well. The new terminfo
screen.ti fixes the dselect/mutt problems, but the 'bce' problem still exists.
--
"Here's something to think about: How come you never see a headline like
`Psychic Wins Lottery.'"
-- Comedian Jay Leno
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 30 Apr 1999 08:20:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Lamb wrote:
>On 29 Apr 1999 04:23:55 GMT, Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Lynx and slrn are using slang while mutt and dselect use ncurses.
>
> Uhm.. Mutt uses SLang..
>
>Depends: libc6, slang1 (<< 1.3), slang1 (>> 1.2.2-0), mail-transport-agent
My apologies - I did not mention that I was using a version of mutt I compiled
myself. It is using ncurses.
--
In Denver it is unlawful to lend your vacuum cleaner to your next-door neighbor.
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From: "William R. Cousert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.slackware,at.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Downloading and installing Linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:05:19 -0700
Can someone tell me where I might be able to get detailed, step-by-step
instructions for downloading and installing Linux? Yes, I know it's
available on CD for about a buck, but I downloaded Windows 2000 beta 3, and
would like to give this a try, too.... I don't care if it takes a month to
download the whole thing. I'm not in a hurry....
Is there a program that will let you input your options and automatically
download the required files?
Thanks,
William R. Cousert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tuning Linux?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:11:01 +0200
Hi,
does anyone of you have information on tuning linux?
links r welcome, too.
Thanks
Marc
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From: Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:40:16 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In his obvious haste, Prins Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> : Might i also remind you to the fact that the ppl who actually "invented" the
> : labour/concentration camps were the English, for use in their colonies....and they
> : were pretty damned proud of them....
>
> But we'd grown out of that and become more civilised by the time the Germans
> started gassing Jews.
>
> --
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errr.....i think right at this moment your nation is bombing another country trying to
destabilise it forever....and about WW II i just want to say one word....Dresden....
Prins Olivier
--
Running Windows on a PIII, is like driving a $200,000 Porsche only backwards.....
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: limiting background processes
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:06:30 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marc Mutz wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to limit the CPU utilization of a process when starting
> > it or when it is already running?
> >
> > appreciate any assistance
> >
> > Spencer
> You can also renice a task in top. For that type 'r' in top. You are
> allowed to enter any highter nice value (= lower priority) as normal
> user. as root you can enter any value from 0 up to 19.
Almost. You can only renice the task if you have permission (i.e. if you
are root or the process owner). The root user can use the range -19 to
+19.
Mark.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C. Newport)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Regular system crash
Date: 28 Apr 1999 16:19:27 +0100
Richard Lewin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hallo,
: One of our servers crashes regularly (at least once a week, sometimes more
: often). The server is running inn 2.2 and the latest version of bind. It
: is quite heavily loaded with inn - we are receiving a full news feed.
: Usually there is no indication as to why it crashed but today I saw the
: following in the syslog and dmesg.
This is either a memory problem or a bad track in your swap partition.
First try disabling swap, if necessary you can make a swapfile somewhere
with enough space.
If that fails start changing out the memory until it comes right.
Note that you SHOULD always use ECC memory on a server, but your
motherboard might not support it.
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.slackware,at.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Downloading and installing Linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:45:20 +0200
Hi,
http://www.suse.de/Support/sdb_e/ke_suselinux-ftp.html
Bye
Marc
"William R. Cousert" schrieb:
>
> Can someone tell me where I might be able to get detailed, step-by-step
> instructions for downloading and installing Linux? Yes, I know it's
> available on CD for about a buck, but I downloaded Windows 2000 beta 3, and
> would like to give this a try, too.... I don't care if it takes a month to
> download the whole thing. I'm not in a hurry....
>
> Is there a program that will let you input your options and automatically
> download the required files?
>
> Thanks,
>
> William R. Cousert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:22:21 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: limiting background processes
Mark Tranchant wrote:
>
> > You can also renice a task in top. For that type 'r' in top. You are
> > allowed to enter any highter nice value (= lower priority) as normal
> > user. as root you can enter any value from 0 up to 19.
>
> Almost. You can only renice the task if you have permission (i.e. if you
> are root or the process owner). The root user can use the range -19 to
> +19.
>
> Mark.
Right you are. Forgot that. But don't use negative values unless you
know *exactly* what you are doing and - more important - what you might
allow not to be done.
Marc Mutz
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in
his linux box ?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:01:58 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cameron Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>In article <7g93hb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have a few USR 56k internal PnP's in som fax servers.. works flawlessly.
>>
>>
>
>Be careful which model of USR modem you get for use with Linux.
>Some work well, but others are useless "Winmodems."
<snip>
>
>It would be good if 3Com would label its retail packaging clearly,
>so we could know at point-of-sale which modems in its product line are
>Microsoft-only.
>
That's fairly easy to figure : the winmodems are about half as expensive
as the real ones.
--
Mist.
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Where to get glibc2 source...
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:26:07 +0000
Actually, I have it, but I have only glibc-2.0.6. I saw where ftp.gnu.org
and most mirrors have only up to version 2.0.6. This is pretty
frustrating, as I know there was a version 2.0.7 as of last Oct. I know
there's a version 2.1.0, but due to some ridiculous conflict of political
interest, most servers don't have it(!!).
Anyone know why gnu doesn't have any version of glibc greater than 2.0.6
available on its servers? At least they could provide 2.0.[7-9].
Also, I'm getting seg faults when I try to run the glibc2 version of
Netscape. Apparently, it was linked with a glibc2 version a little more
recent than what I have (like maybe it was linked with glibc-2.0.8).
Obviously, Netscape hasn't done too much testing with the glibc2 version
of Netscape. But if I run the highest-numbered glibc available, like
2.1.0, I should have backward compatibility with programs linked w/ lower
numbered versions, like say glibc-2.0.8, hopefully...
I know where the seg faults are coming from: anytime a program is linked
with a different release of glibc2 than what I have, they seg fault. Come
on GNU, where's that v. 2.1.0? :-(
Donn
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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suse Ditr. 6.1 (beta) & Hercules Term. GLH128 ?
Date: 30 Apr 1999 09:35:21 GMT
Reply-To: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Driver needed for Hercules Terminator GLH128 (S3 trio)
Please send Links 2 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ron Luman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6 & SSH
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:31:42 -0400
Has anybody had any luck installing SSH (1.2 or 2.0) over a vanilla Redhat 6
install? Suggestions?
Thanks,
--
Ron Luman II | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
OSU Network Security Group | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but
World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
---Albert Einstein
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:31:38 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slackware and glibc2
I was browsing my slackware CD, adn guess what....slackware 3.6 comes
with the glibc2 runtime installed...AND it also comes with an optional
package which will reaplce libc5 with glibc2....
So, Slackware DOES come with glibc2 but the software does not use it.
There goes a big chunk of anti-slack fud.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd-Hanafiah Abdullah)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: gdb question
Date: 30 Apr 1999 18:31:52 +0800
How do I list the "assembler" code of a code segment and step through each
assembler line in GDB. This is helpful sometime when the source code is not
available for some code segments.
Please reply by email as well. Thanks ahead.
Napi
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From: "Alec V. Ananchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for ISO-image of redhat-6.0 (i386)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:55:56 +0400
Please, mail me, where can I get it...
--
Alec V. Ananchenko
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Kahlert)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.c-programming,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Assembler in GNU's C++ compiler
Date: 30 Apr 1999 06:55:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Toke Gaarde Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am using the built-in C++ compiler when programming under LINUX and I
> would like to incorporate small pieces of assembler code into C++ code.
>
> I have searched for a manual covering the reserved words in GNU's C++
> compiler and their meaning but without succes. Do anyone know a link or
> two?
Try this:
http://www.tyumen.ru/~mc/linux/base/dev/gccasm.txt.html
or info gcc (look for extended inline asm)
or the older (and nowadays not fully correct)
Brennan's Guide to Inline Assembly
I don't know where to find it. The URL has moved somewhere else.
Bye,
Martin.
--
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
to take effect. Reboot now?
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