Linux-Misc Digest #993, Volume #23               Thu, 30 Mar 00 00:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Can't get into Gnome, gdm problems (Jordan Hiller)
  Re: frequent crashes related to kswapd "kernel paging request" (John Larmour)
  Re: XWindows (Glennzo)
  Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install (Joe Schottman)
  Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD (Joe Schottman)
  Re: XWindows (Carl Fink)
  Re: Running Linux 6.1 (Joe Schottman)
  Re: meta woes (Tim Thomas)
  Re: Newbie- Linux on a Laptop (Joe Schottman)
  Re: Linux and Apple's x86 card? (Mark Valiukas)
  Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Lilo question:How to move Linux Drive to secondary IDE port. (John in SD)
  Re: XFMail refuses to open mail (Ed Hurst)
  Re: lilo (John in SD)
  perl or ms v. of wget ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: EMERGENCY!! (final)
  Re: Ownership of multiple groups, and being in multiple groups (final)
  Re: About PPP connection & Sendmail (David Efflandt)
  Re: EMERGENCY!! (Rob Komar)
  Re: My sound is gone upgrading from SuSE 6.0 to 6.2 (David Steuber)
  Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference? (David Steuber)
  Re: I need gcc-2.7.2 (David Steuber)
  Re: Monitor off by blank: Can I disable it? (David Steuber)

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From: Jordan Hiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't get into Gnome, gdm problems
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:15:40 GMT

When I shut down my other computer (Red Hat 6.0) today, it exited Gnome
and then displayed something a whole bunch of times before it shut down.
It said something about /var/run/gdm.pid and "gdm appears to have been
killed mysteriously."

Linux is set to runlevel 5 so it automatically goes into Gnome. Now it
appears to boot okay, but once it tries to load Gnome it just sits there
and flashes some text that I can't read. I can get out of it by
Ctrl-Alt-Del, but then it shows that weird gdm message again.

So I can't get into Gnome or X at all. I don't know how to get to a
simple terminal either. Any suggestions what is going on?

Thanks so much!
Jordan Hiller

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From: John Larmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: frequent crashes related to kswapd "kernel paging request"
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:17:15 GMT

paul wrote:

> I just upgraded my computer and am now getting
> frequent crashes usually when the computer is accessing the hard drive
> heavily.  When I reset and check the logs it is always related to a
> kswapd problem, and a "couldn't handle kernel paging request".  I was
> wondering if since it was paging could it be a problem with my RAM?
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Paul

I had the same kind of problems while setting up a new system.
Formatting the drive while installing caused a kernel panic.  I tried a
new hard drive, tried a new motherboard, to no avail.  I didn't suspect
the DIMM because it passed the POST test every time with no errors.
Changing the DIMM was what made the errors go away though.


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From: Glennzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:30:28 GMT


Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> 
> 
> Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On 29 Mar 2000 18:29:08 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : wrote:
> 
> :>Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>: Why would a mail program be setuid?  If this was really the case I
> :>
> :>It's suid so it can write in /var/spool/mqueue. If it weren't, then
> :>/var/spool/mqueue would have to be publicly writable. And then of
> :>course it has to be root in order to talk on port 25!
> 
> : kmail is a MUA, not a MTA.  Why should an MTA use X anyway?
> 
> Err, this is extremely true. I can't think why it should be suid, then.
> Unless of course, it is trying to be an MTA too. Why an MTA should use
> X is if it is trying to be an MUA. It probably should be using servlets
> too, in that case ...
> 
> :>: would consider this a _major_ security problem and would definitely
> :>
> :>Then you consider up a gum tree. Every mailer has to go root to mail
> :>out.
> 
> : You can (and should) mail out from high ports, you would just
> : generally like your MTA to be reached on the usual POP and SMTP ports.
> 
> Generally, as in on pain of death by BOFH do not even think of trying
> anything else.
> 
> : This however is a non-issue for the many users using fetchmail or some
> : other POP3-retrieving software.
> 
> Poor lads. Use imap over ssl instead. Saves on changing passwords.
> 
> Peter

More to add here. Now I discover that in order for Netscape to work, I need
to run IT first, then log online with KPPP. I'm using Linux/Netscape to
write this message. Guess I'll have to try running KMail prior to logging
online and see what happens. 

Does this indicate that KPPP or Netscape is blocking the other from
executing?

Glennzo


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From: Joe Schottman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on a new Red Hat 6.0 Linux install
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:40:52 -0500

Dave LaPorte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>       1.  Why, after doing a ' ls ' from the root dir ' / ' do all
> the sub dirrectorys have a / after them.  ie:  etc/, dev/, home/.  I
> have another server that's the exact same os, ( only a consultant set
> that one up ) yet that server doen't have the trailing slash's.
>       2.  Why, after createing a new file on the server that I
> loaded the os on, do all filenames end with an '*'  ie:  firstfile*
> secondfile* etc.  After doing a ls in any dir, where I created files,
> the files end with a *.

As other people have noted, your ls command has been aliased to 'ls -F'.
But when you say creating files, do you mean compiling code, or creating shell
scripts that you make executable?  Or do you mean creating any file, such as
a text file?  If everything is being given executable permission by default,
then this could present a serious security risk.

Joe Schottman

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From: Joe Schottman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:44:10 -0500

Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:30:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>
>>I am trying to reinstall windows 98 in my computer that in now Linux 
>>formated but I just can't make the DOS/windows boot disk (or CD) recognize 
>>the drive C. Haw can I reformat my HD for DOS/windows??

<snip>

> This will zero out the MBR, bypassing the brain-damaged DOS FDISK entirely
> and making Winblows think the drive has absolutely nothing on it.  

You can also use a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it to format the MBR.

Joe Schottman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: XWindows
Date: 30 Mar 2000 02:50:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Folks, remember that kmail being suid is a *guess* on my part, never
confirmed by the original poster.  It's owned by root on my system
(Debian 2.1) but not suid.  If it *is* suid, it's presumably an
error, not something the package manager meant to do.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Guest of Honor in 2000 will be Geoffrey
A. Landis.  See <http://www.iconsf.org> for I-Con information.

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From: Joe Schottman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running Linux 6.1
Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:04:02 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just install linux, and config it completely. After I type in my login 
> name, and pass, what do I do to get to the OS? Just dont tell me that 
> Linux 6.1 is look-a-like MS-DOS, because if it is, I m gonna throw all my 
> linux and, bang it. I m so fustrated that I cant (or should I say: No 
> manual for using linux). Can some one tell me what to do, or some web 
> sites?

I am assuming that you are using Redhat Linux 6.1.  You should be able to 
launch into a graphical mode by typing "startx" from the prompt.  

If you wish to automatically launch into the graphical mode when you boot the
machine, run the command "Xconfigurator" from the prompt.  You may have to 
run the command as "/usr/X11R6/bin/Xconfigurator", but the first should work.
At the end of the process after you have selected your monitor type and video
card, it will ask you if you want to automatically go into graphical mode.  If
you say yes, then the computer will load the graphical display the next time
you reboot.

A few pieces of advice:
Try to find a local Linux users group.  There are quite a few around now, and
many will have members willing to help you get started.

You may find it worth buying support from a linux vendor (presumably RedHat in
this case).  Putting out $60 or so can prevent alot of headaches.

Go to a well stocked bookstore or online bookstore (I've had great luck with
www.bookpool.com), and find a good book on Linux.  My current favourite book
is Linux Unleashed from SAMS, but it may be a little technical for you right 
now.  One of the authors also wrote SAMS Teach Yourself Linux in 24 Hours, 
which might be more appropriate for you right now.

And don't give up on the shell (DOS-like) prompt yet.  With some time and 
experience, you may come to find that it is faster and more powerfull than 
some of the windows programs.

Joe Schottman

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Thomas)
Subject: Re: meta woes
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:29:18 GMT

On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:40:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim
Thomas) wrote:

>Using Debian Linux I am trying to map the F1 key to run pon
>Here's what my /etc/inputrc looks like
>set meta-flag on
>set input-meta on
>set convert-meta off
>set output-meta on
>"\e0d": backward-word
>"\e0c": forward-word
>"\e[h": beginning-of-line
>"\e[f": end-of-line
>"\e[1~": beginning-of-line
>"\e[4~": end-of-line
>"\e[5~": beginning-of-history
>"\e[6~": end-of-history
>"\e[3~": delete-char
>"\e[2~": quoted-insert
>
>then I did this:
>
>Below, CNTRL-v means control-v followed directly by a control-m (seems
>to work fine in vi).  (The cntrl-v makes the cntrl-m come out
>literally
>instead of just being a carrage return.)
>
>"\e[11~": "ponCNTRL-vCNTRL-m"
>"\e[12~": "poffCNTRL-vCNTRL-m"
>
>No joy. Anyone know what I am missing ?

I have working at the console now 
/etc/console-tools and the default keymap
but it does NOT work under X / Xterm 

wtf ? Buehler Buehler

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From: Joe Schottman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie- Linux on a Laptop
Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:10:38 -0500

Nol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What i am looking for is a version of Linux that i cna
> download and put on floppys (not more than 10) and install it onto my
> laptop. And if you could help me there i would like some information on how
> to install it, like if i would need to download it on my other Linux box and
> put it on disks or if i can just download it on my Windows box and put it on
> disks. Thank you for your help.

The short answer is that you can use a small Debian installation on floppy 
disks, and then download the rest of the files you need using a null modem 
cable.

For the long answer, and possibly specific information on tweaking Linux to
work with your laptop, go to 
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

Joe Schottman

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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:27:54 +1000
From: Mark Valiukas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Linux and Apple's x86 card?

DigitalRealmz wrote:

> Anyone ever manage to get Linux running on Apple's x86 card (the Cryix
> 166)? If so, please share the details - who, what, how, etc?

You'll run into problems because Linux will not be able to talk to much (if
any) of the "pc hardware" emulated by the mac support software for this card.
I have a similar card with a Cyrix 586-100 (really a super-duper 486...) and
have made a token effort towards using it with linux, without success.

I can start the RedHat 6.1 installer by using autoboot - but the kernel can't
spot any hard drives.
It does seem to spot the emulated serial ports though - so if I ever get
around to it, I might try a
single-disk distro and try talking through the serial ports. It just now
occurs to me that I have not tried using
a raw disk partition - but this still may not work, as Linux bypasses the bios
and accesses the hardware directly. Does anyone know if any of the really
early versions (like before 0.9) used the bios for disk access? If so, one of
those might work. Or does anyone think the XT disk driver might work? I'm too
busy with work and study at the moment to waste much effort on this, but if I
get a lazy afternoon I might give this last option a try.

Theoretically, all it would take to support Intel Linux on these cards would
be for someone to
write appropriate kernel support for the disk and network devices emulated by
the Mac support software.
In practice, this is probably not likely to happen - I imagine Apple would be
less than forthcoming with
the design specs for them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they considered
things like the software interfaces
for these cards to be closely guarded trade secrets. But I would dearly love
to be proven wrong on this.

Diverging slightly, I wonder if Apple have any plans to produce a new card
using something like TransMeta's Crusoe chip? I suspect even the mobile
PII/PIII variants may have higher power consumption than I'd like to see in an
add-in board, and the Crusoe would be ideally placed as a reasonably
high-spec, extremely low power-consumption option.

Mark.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: reinstalling windows in a Linux HD
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:48:33 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 29 Mar 2000 20:44:10 -0500, Joe Schottman 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This will zero out the MBR, bypassing the brain-damaged DOS FDISK entirely
>> and making Winblows think the drive has absolutely nothing on it.  
>
>You can also use a DOS boot disk with fdisk on it to format the MBR.

1. FDISK.EXE's tiny little brain chokes on Linux partitions, and Win9x has
problems when there isn't a primary FAT partition.  Since FDISK can't deal
with Linux partitions, recreating a primary FAT partition is... somewhat
difficult in certain circumstances.  Linux fdisk can blow away the entire
partition table, but you then should recreate it with FDISK.EXE... the
"dd" approach saves a little time.

2. FDISK /MBR overwrites the first 446 bytes of the MBR, doing nothing
at all to the partition table which is contained in the next 64 bytes.

I believe the original poster's problem had to do with #1, myself.  ICBW.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo question:How to move Linux Drive to secondary IDE port.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:00:11 GMT

Windows MUST be on /dev/hda (drive C:); and it must be a primary
partition.

You may or may not be able to put Linux on /dev/hdc.  LILO uses only
BIOS calls to load the kernel, so /dev/hdc MUST be device 0x82.
/dev/hda is 0x80, and /dev/hdb is 0x81.  My BIOS installs all three
drives, so I can boot /dev/hdcX.

If your BIOS only installs 0x80 and 0x81 (Windows/DOS drives C: and
D:), you are completely out of luck with LILO.

Neil Koozer has another boot loader, which might work, however.  It is
called NUNI.  Search this NG, and the hardware NG for a reference to
his site.

--John in SD



On 29 Mar 2000 14:35:28 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances
With Crows) wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:25:33 -0500, Blackstar 
><<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>I would like to move my Linux RHv6.1 drive(/dev/hdb) to the secondary
>>IDE port(/dev/hdc).
>>Lilo is on the MBR of /dev/hda (Windoze98). Lilo fails to boot Linux if
>>I move the drive to /dev/hdc. I know I can change the Lilo to the MBR of
>>the second drive and restore the MBR of /dev/hda with FDISK /MBR. 
>
>It seems as though the BIOS has a hard time reading from anything but the
>first two IDE drives on bootup.  LILO also won't work unless it's
>somewhere on the first hard disk.  (From the LILO documentation.)
>
>>I want to use my bios at boot up to select which drive to boot.
>
>Yuck.  If you reboot your machine frequently, that means every time you
>boot, you have to waste 10-15 seconds messing with the BIOS.  Not cool,
>plus it might not work the way you expect.  I installed LILO on the MBR of
>/dev/hdb and told the BIOS to boot from that drive.  No go, though the
>kernel and the map file were on /dev/hdb well udner the 1024-limit.
>
>If I were you, I'd try this:  Put your Linux disk on /dev/hda, and put
>your WinXX disk on /dev/hdc.  Install LILO in the MBR of your Linux disk,
>and have the lilo.conf be like this:
>
>other=/dev/hdc1
>  label=dos
>  table=/dev/hdc
>
>I do not know if this will work, though it should with recent BIOSes.  
>Whether WinXX can handle being on /dev/hdc is another story entirely.


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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFMail refuses to open mail
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:06:40 -0600

Hans-Joachim Zierke wrote:

> Suse 6.1, xfmail 1.3 on XFree/Windowmaker
>
> Has worked well for several months.
>
> Now: XFMail does not show reaction to open mail command, not to doubleclick
> left, not to single click middle, not to menue entry, not to keyboard
> shortcut.
>
> Any ideas about how to get it going again?
>
> hajo
>
> --
> 2.1.  Required Header lines
> 2.1.1.  From
>     The "From" line contains the electronic mailing address of the person who
>     sent the message, in the Internet syntax.                        (RFC 1036)

The only time I've seen anything like this is when the xfmail window has
"crashed".  On some window managers, (like IceWM and AfterStep) if you try to roll
up the window, it fails to unroll properly, and the program must be halted.  When
it comes back up, it displays the symptoms you describe.  The only fix I know of
is to forcibly re-install from the RPM.

Ed


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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:04:36 GMT

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:23:37 -0600, Mark Guzzo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just installed the RPM version of kernel 2.2.14-8. After I setup lilo
>to "see" the new kernel and then run "/sbin/lilo", I get an error
>stating that the kernel 2.2.14-8 is to big.

Did you make the zImage or the bzImage.  The LILO second stage loader
loads zImage files in the lower 640k, but bzImage's above 1M.

>So I left out of the
>lilo.conf all the lines about the old kernel and reran the /sbin/lilo,
>but I still got the same message. I can not find this error listed in
>any FAQ or in the man pages. Can someone please help ;-(
>
>Mark
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: perl or ms v. of wget
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:56:15 GMT

Does anybody know of a perl script, or something that will run on ms
that will download a website and convert the links to relative like the
way the wget pgm works?

TIA                ChasR


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Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (final)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:11:05 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] has said that...

[snip]

  :
  :When i mount the drive to the directory I KNOW has an index file, i
  :only get the ftp view caused by no index.
  :
  :I was attempting to unmount the drive again to remount it to another
  :directory and was told device is busy.  I did PS to see what was
  :running and all i see are:  The PS command itself, bash, and a lot of
  :agetty.   (i dont know what agetty is)
  :
  :1. Why after mounting the drive to the directory that contains an index
  :(old_mount) do i not see the file with my browser??
  :
  :2. Why is the drive telling me its busy when im trying to umount it so
  :i can remount it?
  :
  :3. What can i do to mount the drive to /new_mount so the index.html
  :file can be seen????
  :
  :Any and all help is extremely appreciated!!
  :
  :Thank you,
  :Joe

a. agetty handles your login prompts. don't mess with em.
1. mounting a drive to a mount point hides the original contents
   of the mount point until you unmount it.
2. the drive is probably busy because someone is using it
   as their current working directory (cwd).
3. copy the index.html to a temporary dir, (your home dir,
   for example,) mount the drive at /new_mount, then copy
   the file back.

HTH,
final

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (final)
Subject: Re: Ownership of multiple groups, and being in multiple groups
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:32:25 -0500

Ken Eric Yasuda has said that...
  :I have an interest in making a hard disk partition accessible 
  :to more than one group, but am not sure if this is possible.  
  :Any suggestions?
  :
  :
  :
  :Also, I am interested in putting a user into more than one group.  Any
  :suggestions on how to do this?
  :
  :
  :Thanks,
  :
  :Ken


1. Make a new group and add the members of both groups to it.
2. usermod -G<list of groups> <user>

$ apropos '(user|group)(add|mod|del)'

HTH,
final

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: About PPP connection & Sendmail
Date: 30 Mar 2000 04:47:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Beno�t Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am running Slackware 7.0, and I would like to know how I could run the
>'ppp-go' command (launching a PPP connection) as a non-root user,
>WITHOUT using the 'su' command. I already tried to change all
>permissions in the "ppp" directory, to no avail.

That will not work.  Your ppp-go script has to have proper read and
execute permission for you do run it, pppd should be suid root (4755
permission) and things like pap-secrets or chap-secrets (if used) cannot
be readable by anyone other than root.

You cannot make pppd suid in RedHat, because it will change it back, but
you don't need to because if you set up a ppp connection with the tools
proviced, you can check a box to let users bring the connection up or
down.

>Moreover, could someone please explain to me how to configure Sendmail ?

I guess that is where it helps to have a static IP and hostname, I did not
have to configure anything for it to work.  There is a sendmail.org
website and more extensive docs that you may have on your CD if not
already installed.  Or you may want to lurk in the sendmail newsgroup.

>--
>
>Beno�t Smith
>Just A Rhyme Without A Reason


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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!!
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:48:47 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ok...
> we just copied a large website to a new harddrive (hdb2)

> I am sure the copy is there and i was ready to delete the old copy.
> I began doing so, and was making lots of progress when i ran outta time
> for the day.  So i mounted the new drive and checked the site before
> going home.  What i found was an old copy of the site which was copied
> a while ago.  I then attempted to mount the new drive in a different
> directory in which the site was supposed to be copied earlier this
> day.  When i tried to view it, i got the ftp directory because of no
> index file.  So, I calmly attempted to remount the drive to the
> previous directory with the intent that if its not the most recent
> copy, at least i will have something up for this evening.

> I am now unable to do this.

> When i mount the drive to the directory I KNOW has an index file, i
> only get the ftp view caused by no index.

> I was attempting to unmount the drive again to remount it to another
> directory and was told device is busy.  I did PS to see what was
> running and all i see are:  The PS command itself, bash, and a lot of
> agetty.   (i dont know what agetty is)

> 1. Why after mounting the drive to the directory that contains an index
> (old_mount) do i not see the file with my browser??

Any files or directories become inaccessible if you use the parent directory
as a mount point for another filesystem.  So, you can't do what you're
trying to do.

> 2. Why is the drive telling me its busy when im trying to umount it so
> i can remount it?

You may have moved into one of the directories in the new filesystem.
cd to your home directory in every shell before trying to umount the
drive.

> 3. What can i do to mount the drive to /new_mount so the index.html
> file can be seen????

Mount the new drive using a new mount point.  When it's mounted, copy
the old index.html file (which is in some other directory, I hope)
to the new drive.

Good luck,
Rob Komar

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Subject: Re: My sound is gone upgrading from SuSE 6.0 to 6.2
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:00:00 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

' And verily, didst David Steuber hastily scribble thusly:
' > Never mind.  I fixed it.
' 
' > Now if I can only get the PCMCIA service to be started once in the
' > init process :-/
' 
' Go to YaST -> System Admin -> Edit config file and search for PCMCIA in that
' long list of options. You can turn it on from there.
' 
' It's good to look through that anyway, 'cos you might find other things that
' could do with a tweek...

I've actually edited the /etc/rc.conf file by hand in the past.

The problem, I think, is that in the past I have used David Hinds
distribution of PCMCIA, not the one included on the SuSE distro.  My
network card demanded this.  With 6.2, I loaded the SuSE one.  The
problem is, the start up for the PCMCIA service is now done twice!
The second time it fails because cardmanager sets up a lock file and
won't run again.  This does not harm the operation of the computer,
but it is anoying to see a 'failed' service during startup.

I seem to recall that when I did it the non-SuSE way, I had to add
something to one of the startup scripts in /sbin/init.d.
Unfortunatly, I can't find my change!  I only have the new scripts in
there to the best of my knowledge.  I have looked at the pcmcia script 
and it is fine.  I have looked for other invocations by grepping for
insmod, but have had no joy.

Fortunately, this problem is just an irritation and not a function
killer.  But I still want to fix it.

-- 
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NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

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        A man who was born at least 5,000 years ahead of his time.

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Subject: Re: Linux/Unix What is the difference?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:00:01 GMT

It seems like it is much easier to say that Linux is a ground up
implimentation operating system that implements the POSIX standard.
That is exactly what it is.

POSIX came about because of the forking Unix code bases.  The US
Government wanted to reduce procurement costs and increase portability 
by having a standard set of services provided for in the OS.  They
also needed to be able to get software from multiple vendors.  They
eventually decided to go with Microsoft instead.  Now Microsoft gets
to ignore any court judgments against them.

Wee!

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NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

... and furthermore ... I don't like your trousers.

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Subject: Re: I need gcc-2.7.2
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:00:01 GMT

Is anyone using GCC 2.95.2 with success?  I obtained a copy from the
ftp site at ftp.gnu.org.  Super cool to watch it build!

http://gcc.gnu.org/

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #52:

Q:  What is your name?
A:  Ernestine McDowell.
Q:  And what is your marital status?
A:  Fair.

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Subject: Re: Monitor off by blank: Can I disable it?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:00:02 GMT

"Joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' If anybody has any clue, even some idea as to where I might  look, I'd love
' to read it .

Recompile your kernel with APM support and install and use apmd.

At least that works for my laptop :-)

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

http://www.packetphone.org/

We have met the enemy, and he is us.
                -- Walt Kelly

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