Linux-Misc Digest #26, Volume #20 Sun, 2 May 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft (Daniel Tso)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Sam Holden)
Re: Problem with HP DeskJet 520 Printer (Adam Short)
Can linux damage my hardware? (Shaun Schembri)
Re: Slackware and glibc2 (Thomas Zajic)
Re: The little dual boot that didn't (Perry Grieb)
question... (hellraiser)
Re: no sound with ESS 1938 ?? (Shaw Carruthers)
Re: Idiot Seeks Help 1: Linux and Modems (David Tansley)
Re: crc error when booting RedHat 5.1 (Michael)
Re: Computer virus threat to Linux? (hellraiser)
Cabletrom e22xx nic compatible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ())
Re: CPU temp program on Asus board for linux? (jason)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Moving Linux to a new hard disk? (Thomas Zajic)
HELP!!!Trouble with installing mini linux (Alexey Milshtein)
Re: Help choosing distribution (Des Herriott)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Loren Petrich)
Re: Blackdown JDK 1.2: Can't find libjava.so ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Chris Welch)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Re: Linux on WinChip? (Bob Martin)
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Tso)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs. Linux testing by mindcraft
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:39:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Montgomery-Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I remember the time when the 16 bit processors were coming out. (In
>those days I knew how to do assembler language). There was the 8086,
>Z8000, and the 68000.
>
>In those days, the 8 bit processors that seemed to be in vogue were
>the 8080, the Z80 and the 6800. The 6800, made by Motorola, seemed
>a model of elegence and beauty.
The 6800 and 68000 borrowed much from the PDP-11, perhaps the
first elegant CPU architecture.
>The 8080 seemed a mess, an intruction
>set thrown together.
8080 "had to" inherit "culturally compatibility" from the 8008, so
that old 8008 programs could be semi-automatically translated to run on the
8080.
> The Z80 took the 8080, and added more instructions,
>and that seemed to be what was favorable then.
More bells and whistles, but basically the same mess -- mainly
non-orthogonal register "set".
>Looking at the projected instruction sets they were coming out with,
>the 8086 seemed to inherit the mess of the 8080, the Z8000 seemed a lot
>cleaner than the Z80, and the 68000 was the same beautiful elegence of
>its predecessor.
>
>As I recall, it was the 8086 that actually came out first, and I always
>thought that was why IBM chose that processor, because it was actually
>there rather than on the way. Generally, the IBM PC that came out seemed
>to combine the worst OS, with the worst 16 bit processor of that time,
>with the best marketing.
Well time to market can be everything... and it was. The 68000 was
a full year behind the 8086 in production schedule. Also it was far more
expensive (the initial pricing of the 68000 was about $400 each, whereas
the 8086 was about $120).
At least as important: the personal computing world at that point was
all 8-bit (Z80 and CP/M, or 6502 and Apple). The coup de grace for Intel
was that it had an 8-bit bus version of the 8086, namely the 8088, which was
ready to market. The comparable 68000 8bit-bus CPU, the 68008 was way
out in the future. IBM chose to stay with 8-bit bus computing to lower costs
and it could have 16-bit internals at the same time: with the 8086
architecture.
We can lament the rise of the 8086 over the 68000, but I think it is
very difficult to fault IBM for its choice. Afterall, between time and money
(the 8088 saved both), that is what makes a good business decision.
As far as going with MSDOS vs CP/M 86, that was as much
Gary's fault (greed), as it was IBM's (again) business decision.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:52:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
> >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
> >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
> >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>
> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
> humanity minus Bill Gates?
The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
--
Chris Costello
When all else fails, let a = 7. If that doesn't help, then read the manual.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Holden)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 2 May 1999 20:49:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 02 May 1999 19:15:58 +0100, Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> is not genetically viable IIRC. This might not be noticeable though,
>
>There's an awful lot of critical stuff on the X chromosome, much of
>which doesn't exist on the Y (which is basically an X that lost big
>chunks of itself a long time ago and diverged from there). Hence anyone
>with a chromosome matchinng [^X]*Y* is pretty much dead.[1] Early
>miscarriage time.
>
>[1] Assuming we put all the Xs before the Ys, I can't be bothered to
> improve the regexp.
[^X]*
Since Y is matches by [^X] anyway and you since there can be 0 Ys there's
no need to specify it...
Probably should be [^X]+ unless you can have none... ;)
--
Sam
Another result of the tyranny of Pascal is that beginners don't use
function pointers.
--Rob Pike
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From: Adam Short <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with HP DeskJet 520 Printer
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:45:55 +0000
M|S wrote:
>
> While I print ascii text, all prints fine, but if I try to print some
> PostScript (such as PostScript test page in printtool) I got only one
> line on the paper:
>
> Unrecoverable error: rangecheck in .putdeviceprops (1488)op_array (486)
> 0x8117b0d4:E
>
> I'm using RH 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36, ghostscript is installed
>
> Can somebody help me? 10x in advance
I assume you are using the 520 printer driver? Don't! For some reason it
doesn't work. Use the Deskjet one instead. I think its Deskjet/Deskjet
Plus or something like that. Use printtool to change to this driver and
everything should work.
Adam
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From: Shaun Schembri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can linux damage my hardware?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:03:49 +0200
Here is my story....
I decided to give Linux a try way back in August 1998 and installed Red
Hat Linux 5.1. Everything worked fine and soon Linux become my default
operating system replacing Win98. But in the last one and a half months
two incidents happened and I am thinking to revert to that crap of
Micro$oft Win98.
So, about 6 weeks ago I booted as usual my Linux system (A P100 with a
UMC chipset board and 32MB of RAM) and started a X Windows session with
KDE 1.0. But the display started to work incorrectly. The mouse
started to leave a white trail after it. So I decided to reboot my
system. I shut it down as usual but the computer didn't reboot. After
some inspection I decided that my video card (a Trident 9440 1Mb PCI)
was faulty. So I replaced it and everything came back to normal.
Until then I upgraded my system from Red Hat 5.1 to 5.2, the kernel from
2.0.36 to 2.2.5, the KDE from 1.0 to 1.1 and the XFree86 from 3.3.2 to
3.3.3.1. Last Monday I was writing a document using Star Office 5.0 and
I was hearing some mp3 using X11amp. After about 1 hour of playing
X11amp hanged and continued to repeat the same second of music. I
restarted the program but the problem was still there. I rebooted my PC
and loaded Win98 which reported my sound card was not working. After
about 2hours troubleshooting the problem my reinstalling the drivers and
moving it to another slot. The only answer was that the sound card (an
OPTI 82C929 ISA) was faulty. Again a replacement solved the problem.
Now here is my question. Was it a coincidence that both cards went
bonkers while using Linux? I believe that I set the drivers correctly
because I wouldn't have worked for the past 6 months. Finally my PC is
almost 3 years old and never gave me this kind of problems while using
Windows.
If there is any logical answer for this dilemma please tell me as I
really like Linux but I don't want to buy new cards every few months.
Thanks for the patience.
Shaun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Slackware and glibc2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:02:27 GMT
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:31:38 -0700, jik- wrote:
> I was browsing my slackware CD, adn guess what....slackware 3.6 comes
> with the glibc2 runtime installed...
I know about that one, ...
> AND it also comes with an optional
> package which will reaplce libc5 with glibc2....
... but where�s this?
> So, Slackware DOES come with glibc2 but the software does not use it.
> There goes a big chunk of anti-slack fud.
And, surprise, Slack 4.0 will also be glibc2 based if I understood the
ChangeLog.txt in the /slackware-current (4.0-beta) directory correctly!
YEAH!!! :-)
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Grieb)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: The little dual boot that didn't
Date: 23 Apr 1999 12:46:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 'Tis a shame that you'll have to re-install Linux for no good reason.
> When you get the "LILO boot:" prompt, hit the tab key and the boot
> loader will display a list of your boot options.
>
> Most all the distros that I've seen install for a Linux boot default,
> but you can change that using linuxconf (or whatever ships with
> Caldera).
'Tis a shame bad advice is given out by people who have
run MS Windows way to long. The fix isn't to reinstall.
The fix is to fix the problem. When your MBR is not
correct, boot linux from a rescue floppy, mount your linux
root partition, edit your /mnt/etc/lilo.conf file, rerun
lilo using -r flag, and reboot. No reinstall is necessary.
Surely the caldera cd-rom has rescue floppy inages on it?
--
Perry Grieb, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Engineer A: The only thing I got done today was send out
an e-mail saying I didn't get anything done.
Engineer B: I haven't had time to do that yet.
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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question...
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:10:39 -0400
is there any way to manipulate or change the date a file was created?
like, for example, if i had a file made on may 2, could i change the
date to something else, like march 5?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shaw Carruthers)
Subject: Re: no sound with ESS 1938 ??
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:04:24 +0100
Paul Furrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But I still DO NOT have any sound at all. I used "make xconfig" several
>times and also "make config". I have an ESS Solo 1 1938 which says to
>be SB compatible. I also tried using ALSA-drivers.
>
I have the ESS Solo working under Alsa, just follow the instructions
carefully.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Tansley)
Subject: Re: Idiot Seeks Help 1: Linux and Modems
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:01:19 GMT
Stuart Miles ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:
:
: This is a plug n pray modem, are you using isapnp first?
:
Yup, I have used isapnp to generate a isapnp.conf file which successfully
detects the modem and give me a list of IRQ and com port settings to try.
But no matter which I use, running isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf always gives
me an error message.
Hohum.
--
Dave
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From: Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crc error when booting RedHat 5.1
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:55:50 GMT
I have this similar problem.....plz help
From,
Michael
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you dual boot? If so, fo you get weird errors in the other operating
> system, or is it just when you boot Linux? Have you tried booting with
> a (Linux) boot floppy? If so, what happens?
>
> -jason
>
> David Mulcahy wrote:
> >
> > Please can anybody tell me what crc stands for and what is the probable
> > cause for such an error. It was reported when I installed a (supposedly)
> > new Intel 233MMX chip.
> >
> > The error message appears after the uncompressing linex message appears at
> > initial boot time.
> >
> > Does this mean the chip is faulty.
> >
> > Please could you provide any links to documentation on error messeges at
> > boot time.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
>
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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Computer virus threat to Linux?
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 08:15:04 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In his obvious haste, Matthew B. Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> : Are there any threats to Linux systems from computer virii?
>
> If there ARE any linux Virii, the only real risk is if they're executed by
> root.
another MAJOR advantage linux has over windows...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (<blank>)
Subject: Cabletrom e22xx nic compatible?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:19:01 GMT
the e21xx is listed, and Im sure I red somewhere that you highlight
Lance or Pcnet option during the install of redhat and it will work.
Its fine until I goto the next menu (autoprobe) and it cant find it.
So is this card not compatible?
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU temp program on Asus board for linux?
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:35:04 -0400
Yes. Take a look at:
http://www2.lm-sensors.nu/~lm78/
Good luck,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:07:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 02 May 1999 15:22:53 +0100...
..and Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[schnibble]
> As for ESR, I don't think he is an anarchist.
He is an anarcho-capitalist by his own definition. See this:
(Mail from ESR to mawa, Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:06:47 -0400)
# No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. There is no "conspiracy" to
# oppress, rob, and murder (and then call the robbery "taxation" and the
# murder "warfare").
#
# If I believed that the evil and arrogance of government was the result
# of a conspiracy, I might not be an anarchist -- I might believe that
# the idea of government (as opposed to particular implementations of
# it) was salvageable.
#
# But there is no conspiracy. It is simply the systemic nature of
# governments to do these things, as inevitably as animals eat and
# defecate. That is why I *am* an anarchist.
(Mail from ESR to mawa, Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:22:39 -0400)
# In retrospect, demonstrating the ability to destroy Japanese cities
# at will was probably about the least horrible thing to have done.
#
# Lots of people have second-guessed the A-bomb decisions since then,
# but in general, their objections don't stand any scrutiny. The U.S.
# Government has done an awful lot of stupid and evil things before and
# since -- but even I, anarchist though I am, cannot fault them for this
# one.
(Mail from ESR to mawa, date unknown)
# No, it's not OK by me for a state to have an army, either. I'm an
# anarchist.
I think it's dangerous to have this guy in a leading position as a
representant of the free software movement. Imagine what the media
could make of that -- anarcho-capitalist gun nuts steering the
bandwagon! Good heavens...
mawa
--
Level 5 - Session Layer
User has compiled a kernel, and it works with all his/her hardware.
User has downloaded packages and installed them. User occasionally
helps newbies on the newsgroups. -- Cliff Pratt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Moving Linux to a new hard disk?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:21:03 GMT
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:21:20 +0100, Tom Hall wrote:
> I currently have Linux (redhat 5.2 with 2.2.6 kernel) on my hard disk, I
> will shortly be receiving my new 18Gb hard disk and I'm looking to move
> linux over to the new hard disk (which will replace the old one), now is
> it possible to just create the partitions on the new hd and then use cp
> to copy *everything* over to the new partition, and have it all work as
> before. If not, whats the best way to do this ?
> many thanks
Using �cp -ax� always worked for me. Just don�t forget to �mkdir� your mount
points on the new partition (/usr, /proc, /tmp, ...) and to update the (new!)
/etc/fstab if necessary.
Thomas
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From: Alexey Milshtein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP!!!Trouble with installing mini linux
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:58:25 GMT
Hi guys! I am new to Linux and I started my quest from mini Linux. I have
downloaded all 4 files and trying to install it. I run Windows 98 with 64
megs of RAM. i think the problem is that all installation instractions are
written not in English. And by the way I havn't seen files with extension
.cut. Maybe I do something wrong when I open them. Can anybody give full list
of instructions on how to install mini Linux, please. I apreciate any help.
Thanks in advance!!!!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Des Herriott)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Help choosing distribution
Date: 26 Apr 1999 11:51:10 GMT
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:27:03 -0700, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First off, I know of no init setup that "lumps everything into one
> file".
Alright, everything for one runlevel into one file.
> It makes adding
> > services easy,
>
> How so? You have to come up with a new script instead of simply adding
> an entry in the apropriate location.
You have to modify an existing file, rather than adding a new one.
Interactively, not much of a problem, although an error when editing
that file could affect *every* service, not just the service you're
working on. Programmatically, it's a nightmare, and controlling the
order in which your services start is nigh-on impossible.
Here's a scenario: you have 50 Linux boxes, and you need to install
xfstt (a TrueType fontserver) on all of them. With the SysV system I
can write an expect script which logs into each machine, adds the xfstt
RPM (which I've put on my local anonymous FTP server), and runs 'sh
/etc/rcd./init.d/xfstt start'. That's it. Note that I didn't have to
touch an init script, because the RPM has a postinstall script which
ran 'chkconfig --add xfstt'.
How do you do this in Slackware? And how do you remove the service
should it become unnecessary? How do you control which services get
started before xfstt, and which ones get started after?
> and it makes removing services easy.
>
> What is so hard about adding a # to the line you want to not do
> anything? Unless your using a SySV runlevel editor, you WILL need to
> open your text editor and edit a file.
Again: programmatically, it's a nightmare.
> It makes
> > programmatic management of services easy and scriptable, and it makes
> > interactive services management easy. Take a look at chkconfig,
> > tksysv, kdesysv, for example, and tell me I'm wrong.
>
> Your wrong, I tried those interfaces,...sure I can shut services off and
> turn them back on, but can I add a new one that never existed before?
> No.
Yes, you can. man chkconfig, and look at the --add option. ksysv picks
up any scripts you've placed in /etc/rc.d/init.d. What's your problem?
> > 10 times slower? When you can supply some empirical data to support
> > that, I'll agree that your claim is not just pure hyperbole.
>
> Well, I can sit and watch the thing slowly boot,...10x maybe not, but
> definately NOTICABLE slower....I for one do not need any "empirical
> data" to support this claim as I can simply use my head and judge.
Or make some wildly inaccurate claims. I'm glad to see you've backed
down on this 10x nonsense.
> Hmmm...look it is taking at least twice as long to boot this time now
> that I am using this SySV init....lets see if one of the other distros
> is better...oops nope they are not....not too hard to simply judge by
> watching. Slackware has the only competent init setup as far as I am
> conserned.
Twice as long? What, it's suddenly become 5 times faster since the
last time you posted? Wow.
I'll take you more seriously if you supply some real timings, instead
of guesswork. List all the services you start on your Slackware
machine, tell me the machine spec. and tell me how long it takes to
boot your machine, from when init starts to when you get the login
prompt. Here's my data:
OS: Red Hat 5.2 with a 2.2.5 kernel
Machine: Dell CPi laptop, 266MHz P-II, 128MB RAM
Services started (runlevel 3):
apmd network random syslog atd crond pcmcia inet lpd autofs
keytable gpm httpd alsasound squid xfstt local
Time: 30 seconds
This also includes the time to run depmod, mount the disks (6GB in total,
including one VFAT and one NTFS partition), and other one-time system
initialisation tasks (see /etc/rc.d/rc.sysint on a Red Hat machine).
Make sure you include that information in your figures.
To be honest, I'll agree that the BSD system is going to be slightly
faster to boot, since it will be running a single script per runlevel,
avoiding the miniscule overhead of a shell script for each service.
But I still maintain that the SysV system is better: I rarely need to
reboot my machines anyway, so I'm prepared to put up with an extra
second or two (if it's even that) to boot the machine, just for the
flexibility and power of the system.
> > Insidious? Explain what you mean by that, or is that just empty
> > rhetoric, as I strongly suspect?
>
> As in spagetti code scripts scattered to the ends of the earth. Instead
> of having one file of related services you now have 20 all of which are
> entirely unnecisary.
Which spaghetti code are we talking about here, exactly?
Ah. It *is* empty rhetoric. Go on, try again. You know you can come
up with an actual reason if you try.
> Flame on buddy boy.
If you consider that to be a flame, you must be fairly new around here.
--
Des Herriott, Oracle Corporation UK Ltd.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- speaking for myself, not my employer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:35:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> humanity minus Bill Gates?
> The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
The way that anti-slavery laws make one not free to own slaves?
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blackdown JDK 1.2: Can't find libjava.so
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:15:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
insomniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I installed the JDK 1.2 from blackdown in
> /usr/local/jdk1.2. I put the bin/ directory in my $PATH, and when I
> type java I get a segmentation fault. When I switch to
> /usr/local/jdk1.2/bin, however, and type java:
>
> [insomniac@lyn57-18 bin]$ ./java
> Error: can't find libjava.so.
>
as for the can't find libjava.so
make sure it is on the PATH mine is /jre/lib/i386
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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: 2 May 1999 21:35:06 GMT
Not to mention ESR _threatened_ Bruce Perens not to long ago. He was
serious, and I've heard he's a gun nut.
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Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 14:44:59 -0700
On Sun, 02 May 1999 20:52:34 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark S. Bilk wrote:
>> >For each person, it depends on timescale or personal
>> >interest. Some systems elevate a "class" of individuals to take
>> >advantage of others ("practical communism" and GPL),
>>
>> Amazing! Exactly what "class of individuals" is enabled
>> to "take advantage of others" by means of the GPL? All of
>> humanity minus Bill Gates?
>
> The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>You like walking outside sometimes, I would bet. Would you like
>being *FORCED* to walk outside all the time? That's the key
>problem with the GPL and many recognize it.
It's equally extreme as what it was meant to replace.
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 08:56:36 -0500
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on WinChip?
It's another processor manufactured by IDT ( centaur ). Check
www.winchip.com
"Matthew B. Kennedy" wrote:
>
> What's a Winchip?
>
> --
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7gcsm5$70e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Glenn, That was my concern as well when I installed Linux as my primary OS
> > on my machine (by accident mind you, was trying to do a dual-boot and
> chose
> > "server" DOH!!! Lost all my files!), I have the Winchip 200mhz cpu in my
> > linux box running with no problems at all, (maybe RedHat 5.2 has something
> to
> > do with it? not sure...).
> >
> > HTH
> > -Sergio
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glenn T. Jayaputera) wrote:
> > > Would Linux works on WinChip based system?
> > > or this CPU is only for stupid Windows?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > glenn
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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