Linux-Misc Digest #77, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 01:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage ("Charlie Gibbs")
Re: Kernel 2.2.7 (William Burrow)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Re: LS-120 (James Lee)
Re: Printer. (jik-)
Re: 3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci ("Paul Heneghan")
Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch???? (William Burrow)
control-panel problem (Zhengdong Zhang)
Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box ? ("Jon Pennington")
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (William Burrow)
Re: converting ps to pdf (Glenn PM)
Re: Fractals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Downloading RedHat 6.0 w/Win95 (jeff)
users again >:( (Mark Robinson)
RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1? ("Derek S. Smigelski")
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage ("Bill Frisbee")
Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running? (Ursa_M)
Syslog and remote logging (John Wiggins)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Marco
Anglesio)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Mike Coffin)
Re: users again >:( (brian moore)
Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1? (brian moore)
Kernel Traffic #17 is out ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
time() function... ("Les")
Re: Linux Journal May issue ? (Danny Aldham)
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Date: 05 May 99 18:52:57 -0800
From: "Charlie Gibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Intel No Privacy) writes:
> Intel added software trackable individual serial numbers to
>their Pentium III chips even though the public doens't want to make
>it easier to people to track them online.
So what? Software-readable processor serial numbers have been around
for at least 30 years (e.g. IBM 370 mainframes).
The hardware isn't a threat. Software is. I'm not worried about
the CPU chip - I'm worried that some Internet software may decide
to send off that information without users' knowledge or consent.
For instance, Microsoft's Registration Wizard doesn't just report on
the product you're registering - it scans your hard drive for many
other software products - many from Microsoft's competitors - and
sends the results back to Redmond.
A chip by itself can't broadcast information to the world. But
software - especially software from a company that has already
resorted to Trojan Horse techniques - can do exactly that.
Do a web scan for "Microsoft Registration Wizard" and find out where
the threat really lies.
But I can't see why this thread is here in the Linux groups - this
is where there's the least risk of a security breach. Linux Internet
software is far less likely to contain Trojan Horses, especially
if it comes with source code so that you can verify its security.
Windoze users, on the other hand, are sitting ducks.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Gibbs)
Remove the first period after the "at" sign to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
Date: 6 May 1999 00:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 5 May 1999 23:23:18 +0200,
Dirk Demuynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can someone tell me how to upgrade from RH5,2 kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.7. I have
>the file but do not know how to begin.
Don't. Upgrade to RedHat 6.0 first. Pick up a cheap copy of RedHat
($2) from one of the following:
http://www.cheapbytes.com
http://www.linuxmall.com
http://www.lsl.com
Once you've upgraded (should be something that does this for you), you
will have a 2.2 series kernel with all its attendant changes done.
Then you can visit the Linux Documentation Project:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
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From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:15:08 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren
Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Great. So you upgrade your CPU, and your software stops working. Of
> course, you can't boot into a working OS, because your CPU suddenly
> can't execute the commands. What a wonderful future.
I don't want that to come to pass, I just see it being possible and
inevitable if copy right protections were to cease.
However there is no reason to suppose that they could not work it out
to re-license software after an upgrade. It might even just happen in
the background.
A really terrible future would be to require a very brief internet
connection to check the license and get a session key _every_ time the
software was run. As more and more people end up with 24/7 connections
(DSL, etc), this may become possible.
In that case you could upgrade easily (good), they could tell everytime
you used their software (bad).
(All non-public info would be generated in hardware)
1 - Client CPU generates random number.
2 - Encrypts with Venders public key & with CPU's private key.
3 - Sends to vender.
4 - Vender decodes and XOR's random value with real key.
5 - Vender encrypts with their private key and CPU's public key
6 - Sends to client CPU.
7 - CPU decodes and XOR's with random value.
8 - CPU now has key good for software.
Repeat all steps every time software is run. Not a fun idea...
(Of course if there were a battery run non-resetable real-time clock in
the CPU it could arrainge to do this every few weeks).
Oh well....
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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LS-120
Date: 5 May 1999 18:28:49 -0500
In comp.os.linux.setup Dave Spensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "/etc/fstab" doesn't rely directly on the BIOS. The four IDE drives are
: mapped as:
: Primary IDE, Master --> /dev/hda
: Primaru IDE, Slave --> /dev/hdb
: Secondary IDE, Master --> /dev/hdc
: Secondary IDE, Slave --> /dev/hdd
: The LS-120 likes to be the master. I hope this helps.
huh? why?
On my machine, the cd-rom is on /dev/hdc, and the ls-120 is on
/dev/hdd, both internal.
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Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 16:22:55 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Printer.
Nuno Donato wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me step by step how to configure my printer in my RedHat
> 5.2 OS.
> I have tried anything but when I choose the print command in any
> program, nothing happens.
> Help me.
Forget the redhaT GUI config crap and do it right. Read the
Printing-HOWTO and you will be set.
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From: "Paul Heneghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:29:30 +0100
This is not very helpful information, but it's the best I have.
I got a 3c905 10/100 PCI card to work with Red Hat 5.2. It detected the
card as a 3c589 I think.
I replaced a 3c905 on an NT box with a 3c905B. I (foolishly) expected it to
work using the same driver - WRONG. It needed a different driver. This
surprised me!
--
Paul Heneghan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch????
Date: 6 May 1999 00:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 03 May 1999 23:19:25 +0200,
Shaun Schembri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am a computer technician with quite some years of experience and I am
>not new to software development but I cannot figure out any method that
>can be used to induce RF in almost purely digital hardware through a
>software algorithm. Here are my questions....
Golly, it is downright easy to generate lots of RF in just about any
digital hardware setup. The typical computer is spewing RF all over
the band. Just pick up any little AM radio away from your computer,
tune to an unused part of the band (static) and walk towards your
powered on computer.
When you get a good signal, try running various commands for amusement,
switching video modes and so on. I have a video card that breaks
squelch on 2m on every reboot. Kinda annoying to listen to.
>1. Does this really exist? If Yes then give some suitable
>explanation
Tha author stated he was posting humour.
>--------------77BEBF54C6830FDD873CCCEF
>Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>(!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
>(html>
>A few days ago I posted a message about a problem I recently came through.
>%nbsp;
Lets not have any of this HTML garbage here?
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
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From: Zhengdong Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: control-panel problem
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:53:33 -0500
My control-panel worked before. But something has gone wrong. Now when I
tried to run this program from the command line the following message is
printed:
** WARNING **: Creating pixmap from xpm with NULL window and colormap
control-panel: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: gtk_tooltips_set_tips
and the program exits. What has gone wrong? Can it be fixed?
Your help will be appreciated.
Zhengdong Zhang
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jon Pennington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal modem in his linux box ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 01:04:16 GMT
I really like my Best Data 56SF. v.90/KFlex, ISA, Jumpers
--
-=|JP|=-
Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:51:55 +0200, David Guyon Martin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Do you have an internal modem working with linux ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: 6 May 1999 00:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 05 May 1999 14:44:15 -0600,
Clifford T. Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'll see what we can dig up over here. As others have pointed out,
>Executor has plenty of limitations, including the inability to emulate
>PowerPC.
Is there any chance of this limitation being lifted sometime in the
future? The few Mac fiends I know diss Executor just due to this
limitation.
I have to say Executor is appealing in that it does not require Apple
ROMs though....
--
William Burrow
Copyright 1999 William Burrow
Beware of anti-spam -- edit the Reply-To.
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From: Glenn PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: converting ps to pdf
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:05:04 -0400
Hi,
I was interested in this thread and got ahold of and made pstoedit. I
thought perhaps that my make was bad so also tried an RPM and that
didn't help either.I also have ghostscript 5.50.2 installed on my RedHat
5.2. I am unable to get any of the test examples to work or even just a
basi ps to pdf conversion getting this for an error. Any ideas on what
could be wrong?
# pstoedit -f pdf illusion.ps illusion.pdf
pstoedit: version 2.60 : Copyright (C) 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 Wolfgang
Glunz
now calling the interpreter via: gs -q -dNOBIND -dWRITESYSTEMDICT
-dNODISPLAY /tmp/psin00953baa
Error: /invalidaccess in def
Operand stack:
pdfmark --nostringval--
Execution stack:
%interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval--
--nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- 2 3
%oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1
%stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop
.runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2
%stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval--
--nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
--dict:904/941(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:106/200(L)--
--dict:904/941(G)--
Current allocation mode is local
Current file position is 4132
GS<1>
Apprecite any help.
Thanks,
Glenn
========
Ian Hay wrote:
>
> Neil Zanella wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Ian Hay wrote:
>
> > > ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/pstoedit/pstoedit.html
> > > pstoedit -f pdf filename.ps filename.pdf
> > > It works quite nicely.
> >
> > I downloaded this and tried it out. Unfortunately the program was unable
> > to convert some fonts and mathematical symbols used within the document.
> > The systems I have access to are Red Hat 5.1 systems. I know that those
> > systems (unfortunately) do not come with a version of ghostscript
> > containing the ps2pdf uttility.
>
> Are you -sure- about the symbol and font problem? I converted some
> documents with some odd symbols. Sure enough, when I viewed them in
> Linux with xpdf, some symbols did not display properly, and were denoted
> with a box. HOWEVER - when I booted into Windows and viewed the same
> document with Acrobat, the document displayed perfectly. I can only
> assume that your ultimate intention is to have them viewed in Windows,
> so you might want to verify this.
>
> I.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
> "Linux already IS user-friendly ... it's just very picky
> about who it makes friends with!" -- source unknown.
> --------------------------------------------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fractals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:47:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:17:04 -0600, "Walter L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Here is a good question for everyone out there. Is there a package out
>there on Linux
With KDE comes a package kfractal
=====================================================
Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading RedHat 6.0 w/Win95
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 20:28:39 -0500
"Kertis A. Henderson" wrote:
> Mogley wrote:
> >
> > It seems when my win95 ftp client encounters a symbolic link on the host
> > server, it downloads the links target and not the actual link. Will this
> > cause a problem.
> > I'm curious. Just wanna know whats going on.
>
> Windows doesn't have symbolic links.
>
> --
>
> Kertis Henderson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You may want to try a program called mirror. It'll basically download Linux
all at ome time instead of having to "save as.." a billion times. there is a
version for windows as well, though I've only used the linux native one. Take
a look..
http://sunsite.org.uk/packages/mirror
PS..I have no idea if it will preserve symlinks bc its being downloaded to a
windows machine, but, it never hurts to look
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: users again >:(
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 03:45:31 GMT
I have a who that reports 13 users on. But only 1 or 2 are actually
on. So these ghost users (they are real accounts) are consuming sys
resources, but running ps aux shows nothing run by them. I have 2.2 on
a sys that is fully compliant of 2.2, runing RH5.2.
Is there a way to get rid of said users without rebooting?
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From: "Derek S. Smigelski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1?
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:11:58 -0500
I have both which is better??
Thanks,
Derek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Bill Frisbee" <bfrisbee*NoSpam*@*NoSpam*webxi.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:16:58 -0400
Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Bill F. Proud Owner of Pentium III Dual Even,
> why would not _you_ get the F. out of here?
>
> Regards,
> a.
>
> --
> Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
> http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
No, last time I checked one of my systems was running Linux. As these are
Linux groups, I have every right to post here and talk smack back to people
who claim Intel is doing the public wrong. Last time I checked you all had
IP addresses, MAC addresses and some like Sun boxes and several other Uber
processor machines had serial numbers.
Bill F.
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From: Ursa_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 22:20:40 -0400
>
> > > > Pat Masterson wrote:
> > > > > Whats the magic keystroke combination to switch to a different
> > > > > virtual terminal when X is up? The alt-Fx combo works in the text
> > > > > mode consoles, but not when I have X running.
> >
> > > **Nick Brown wrote:
> > > > The official way to change VTs is Ctrl-Alt-Fx. I didn't know Alt-Fx
> > > > worked (just tried it, it does !) but Ctrl-Alt-Fx works with X active as
> > > > well.
> >
> > Mars writes:
> >
> > > It fails to switch back to X.
> >
> > The virtual terminal for X is 7 -- try Alt-F7
> It is actually <number of VT used>+1. And it is LeftAlt not just any Alt.
>
> --
> David Vrabel
While I can switch out of X to another VT, on switching back I am not in X but
just have the same kind of data left on the display as you see upon exiting X.
That being said, there is no active prompt although you can type on the screen
with no activity other than scrolling in evidence. I wound up killing off the X
processes left open in this test and all seemed to be back to normal.
How CAN you switch back into X???
Ursa_M
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Wiggins)
Subject: Syslog and remote logging
Date: 6 May 1999 02:48:58 GMT
Ok, I know how to send logs to a remote machine,
but how does one set up syslog on the remote machine
to log what it gets sent to specific files?
For example, box1 and box2 have the following syslog.conf:
*.* @logbox
logbox has:
*.* /var/log/remote.log
How, of possible, can I tell logbox to send box1's messages
to /var/log/box1.log and box2 to it's file?
Thanks, for any responses.
--
Gunther Dragon --=(UDIC)=-- John Wiggins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://comp.uark.edu/~jwiggins/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:27:40 GMT
On 05 May 1999 19:56:24 -0700, Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
>> What incentive is there for private initiatives to promote literacy on a
>> large enough scale?
>
>Huge. Most *parents* want their children to be literate. They go to
>tremendous lengths to educate children and young adults. Millions
>pay taxes and then pay tuition in addition to get a slightly better
>result than public schools.
I daresay (not being a historian, but being relatively well-read in
history) that that's because most other children are literate and their
children will compete against those other children, not because literacy
is in and of itself an intrinsic good. To an individual, being able to
read really isn't, unless it can be put to some use. The reason we have so
many uses for literacy is because we have a large population of the
literate. It is an immense intrinsic good for the collective, even when
the direct payback in individual cases doesn't approach the expense. And
there is where collective action comes in.
I think that we agree, more or less, here, despite coming from different
approaches.
>It's hardly the same. Private initiatives aren't a strange and
>unknown thing that has never been tried. There are millions of
>examples of where they work very well.
Certainly. However, 'private initiatives', such that they are in the first
world, are made possible by extensive governmental interference (in
education, in regulation, in law enforcement, etcetera). Which isn't to
say that I disagree with you; what I am pointing out is that we live in a
society regulated and government-run to an unprecedented degree but which
is also booming (presumably as a result of the security provided by such)
also to an unprecedented degree.
I agree that there are places where government is ill-advised to venture.
Actually, there are plenty of places where government is ill-advised to
venture. That does not mean that government does not play a role; on the
contrary, the existence of such niceties as bankruptcy laws, labour laws,
access to credit (and even the existence of credit), even the machinery of
the state to preserve one's right to property is due to the presence of
government.
Perhaps I ventured too strongly into bait for usenet libertarians in my
append, and I apologize. It wasn't necessarily directed at you. (And
that's why I shouldn't jump into these threads :) ).
Regards
marco
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | men also in the end are burned. <
> http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa | --Heinrich Heine <
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From: Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 05 May 1999 19:56:24 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
> On 05 May 1999 14:51:43 -0700, Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio) writes:
> >> On the contrary; the government's big-money development has created
> >> considerable benefits. The US has near-universal literacy, for example;
> >> you wouldn't have that (and hence wouldn't have a modern industrial
> >> economy, much less be moving into the information age) without public
> >> schools and public universities.
> >
> >That's pure speculation. "The government did X. Therefore, if the
> >government hadn't done X, it wouldn't have been done." It's quite
> >possible that private initiatives might have done it better.
>
> What incentive is there for private initiatives to promote literacy on a
> large enough scale?
Huge. Most *parents* want their children to be literate. They go to
tremendous lengths to educate children and young adults. Millions
pay taxes and then pay tuition in addition to get a slightly better
result than public schools.
> More to the point: private initiatives (individuals, organizations, or
> religions) have never produced anything close to universal literacy, even
> when their goal is to advance literacy. It takes quite a bit of time and
> money with a very uncertain return to produce a well-eduated (or even
> marginally educated) 18 year old.
They haven't produced universal literacy because literacy has a very
high cost and, until very recently, literacy hasn't had a big payoff
for lots of people. In the world of fifty years ago, a huge portion
of the population had jobs that required almost no literacy: farming,
assembly lines, manual labor. That has changed, but in the meantime
the government has done its best to monopolize the education business.
> >Maybe. Or maybe instead of a defunct space program that burned out
> >after 12 years we would have a sustained presense in space. Who
> >knows?
>
> You're putting a lot of faith in bare possibilities. It's possible.
> However, if you have a situation where you have one option which might
> work, and one which has worked, which do you choose?
First, I would say it hasn't worked. It's been a colossal failure.
The program itself is almost completly defunct. It has been estimated
that it would take longer today to put a man on the moon than it took
the first time. Vast amounts of highly skilled labor has been largely
wasted. NASA is reduced to touting spin-offs, which are not negligible
but are much smaller than commonly believed.
Second, if give credit to governments for all the good they have
done---and they have done considerable good---then you have to balance
the books. How much harm have they done? I won't go into a litany of
the atrocities that even relatively enlightened governments have
committed in this century: I'm sure you could list them as well as I.
> I'll borrow a metaphor from Bruce Schneier. If you went to the
> doctor, and he, instead of using a well-established and effective
> treatment, proposed to treat you with taco powder, would you be too keen
> on the possibility that yes, taco powder might work too?
It's hardly the same. Private initiatives aren't a strange and
unknown thing that has never been tried. There are millions of
examples of where they work very well. Pointing out that they might
work in places where they haven't been tried isn't a big stretch, it's
a minor extrapolation.
-mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: users again >:(
Date: 6 May 1999 04:08:20 GMT
On Thu, 06 May 1999 03:45:31 GMT,
Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a who that reports 13 users on. But only 1 or 2 are actually
> on. So these ghost users (they are real accounts) are consuming sys
> resources, but running ps aux shows nothing run by them. I have 2.2 on
> a sys that is fully compliant of 2.2, runing RH5.2.
Who says they're consuming resources?
They're not.
> Is there a way to get rid of said users without rebooting?
cp /dev/null /var/run/utmp
A hint, though: these users aren't using any resources. 'who' and 'w'
just read a file and print it out. Their records in the file didn't get
deleted is all. Don't worry about it. Next time someone uses on of
those pty's, they'll overwrite the ghost record.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 or SuSe 6.1?
Date: 6 May 1999 04:09:09 GMT
On Wed, 5 May 1999 21:11:58 -0500,
Derek S. Smigelski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have both which is better??
Which is better, chocolate or strawberry?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel Traffic #17 is out
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 04:03:16 GMT
The latest issue can always be found at http://www.kt.opensrc.org/latest.html
Issue #17 is at http://www.kt.opensrc.org/kt19990506_17.html
The table of contents for this issue is
o Stats For This Week
o Threads From linux-kernel
* Responses To Mindcraft
* Bugs in quota code (long) (new)
* audio fs emulation
* Coda & big files
* Re: ATX Power off & SMP-Kernel
* initrd/ramdisk problems, differences 2.2.1 vs. 2.2.5
* cache killer memory death test - 2.0 vs 2.2 vs arca - programs inside
* make xconfig problem in 2.2.6
* 2.2.6 breaks one-way cable modem (sb1000)
* When to use ioremap?
* Double or float in kernel modules
* Linux 2.0.37pre11
* 2.2.7: USB subsystem
* Behaviour of OOB in TCP ?
* [PATCH] missing lock_kernel() and assorted races
* 2.2.6 and Sangoma WANPIPE
* IDE chipset support
Enjoy!
Zack
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From: "Les" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: time() function...
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:42:29 +1000
I need a timer that calculates in milliseconds not seconds. Is there a
function in Linux that lets me do this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal May issue ?
Date: 5 May 1999 02:06:41 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
David E. Fox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mongo) writes:
: > No locals carry it and I rely on the US mail to get it to me.
: > Anybody see it in their newsstands or has gotten theirs in the
: > mails?
: I got mine a few days ago. I"m in Sunnyvale, CA, by the
: way.
: Still, that's a bit late for a magazine.
Ditto that. I got mine in the mail last week, but I had seen it
for sale on the news stand a week before. Subscribers should get
their copies before the retail outlets. Most quality magazines
work it that way.
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