Linux-Misc Digest #77, Volume #19 Wed, 17 Feb 99 23:13:13 EST
Contents:
KDE? Gnome? ... confused ("P.G.")
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Linus Torvalds)
Re: ...a Linux RedHat Technician/Superuser ? (Steve Zinck)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: Mail client for Linux (Barry O'Neill)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (BobO)
Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers (Charles H. Chapman)
Re: SMC Ethernet cards ("David Luksic")
Re: Help unremovable file (Mark Skouson)
Dial-in TTY HELP! ("Randy")
Re: xfig discussion: where'w it at? (Brian V. Smith)
Re: big endian -> little endian converter (Michael Meissner)
Re: Novice Help: Modem Gone Undetected? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: WANTED: Methods of authenticating files. (Duncan Simpson)
Re: Linux has too many problems (MS employee trolling?) ("Kerry J. Cox")
does people use console or X ? ("Finnskoga W�rdshus")
Re: http downloading (Larry)
Re: Login incorrect ("Rich Cloutier")
Re: Linux suxxxx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FAT32 support in Dosemu? (Uwe Bonnes)
Help w/ wildcard expressions (Larry Bados)
Re: Linux jingle (John Hasler)
ldconfig errors ("Stephen M. Shelly")
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From: "P.G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:07:00 -0800
OK here is a question. I used linux sometime ago, always using fvwm. Now I
installed RH5.2 on my new machine. I am trying to figure out which desktop
manager to use. KDE seems nice, and I like the drag and drop capabilities
(which I think it has?). Now when Rh was installing I saw that gnome was an
option and I installed it.
Is gnome working with kde or are two products aiming in the same direction?
Bottom line: Any suggestions on which desktop environment is best? and how I
choose which one to run?
I am overwhelmed with options, please help me understand them.
Thanks,
Panos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 18 Feb 1999 01:21:14 GMT
In article <7af3sj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Honest GPL preamble:
Honest John S Dyson preamble:
I understand that you wrote the code, but I'm still going to
complain about the copyright you put on it. I'll spend the rest
of my life whining about it.
John, just drop it. The GPL isn't for you, obviously, but it's also not
something that you need to complain about all the time. Just don't use
it if you don't like it.
Linus
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From: Steve Zinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ...a Linux RedHat Technician/Superuser ?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 02:20:39 GMT
Go to http://slashdot.org and check the Book Reviews section, there's a few
books recommended for new System/Network Administrators, also do a search on
amazon.com for Linux books and you'll find even more.
In comp.os.linux.misc Jonah99 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If there's any above average Linux SUPERUSER or technician out
> there that can give me a hand/hints on proper reading/learning material
> I would appreciate it very much.
> I am currently running Win95/Winnt 4 Server/RedHat 5.1 and we all
> know which is the best O/S....
> Thanks Guys & Gals
--
Steve Zinck
remove the 'X' to reply via email
http://www.bofh.ns.ca
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 18 Feb 1999 02:23:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Ross allegedly wrote:
>
>The Infernal One wrote in message
><7afev1$65t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Keith G. Murphy wrote:
>>>Alexander Viro wrote:
>>
>>>>Ever tried to add a logical disk on your master harddisk and
>>>> watch the names of logical disk sitting on the slave being shifted? Or
>just
>>>> add a second harddisk when your first one has two partitions. D:
>becoming
>>>> E:, anyone?
>>
>>>Then, if you also have Win95, try to fix all the broken registry
>>>entries, ini lines, and shortcuts that that breaks. Aaaaggghhh!!!
>>>Truly, the worst thing in the DOS/Win world. Even ahead of (no) library
>>>versioning.
>>
>>An objective measure of ease of use is extremely hard to find
>>and agree upon. I personally don't think Linux is much harder
>>to use than Windows although for me personally, Windows is a
>>lot easier because I used Linux for only a short amount of
>>time with limited amount of documentation available to me.
>>From any computer user's point of view, the problem is not
>>whether a particular system is inherently easy to use, but
>>whether it would be easy to learn to use. This takes a lot of
>>other variables into consideration, for example, the amount of
>>documentation available and its target, potential support from
>>other users, etc, etc. Linux is in a very disadvantaged
>>situation in this regard, for most Linux documentation I've
>>seen are targeted for advanced users, and it's hard to count on
>>other people helping you since there are not that many Linux
>>users in the first place. Add that to the customizability and
>>all these different versions of Linux, which makes Linux at
>>"apparently" hard to use...
>>
>
>
>How about if we say Linux is on par with Windows on ease of use but harder
>to learn?
Because, that would be too reasonable, and eliminate our ability to have
flame-fests over it. ;)
>I say the first part because if GUI was so easy why are there so many
>wizards to do tasks?
Perhaps they are there to help aid the user in learning how to perform
said tasks? The first time through it is usually much easier when one
has step-by-step instructions. The wizards only become a problem if
A) one becomes dependant on them, or B) one cannot turn them off.
>I say the second part because first GUI stuff explains things on dialogs and
>choices are clearly shown.
On properly designed GUIs anyway.
>Also Linux/Unix doesn't some differently than
>Windows (eg drive letters) and this must be unlearned first. Since 90% of
>users do use some form of Windows this is true of almost everyone.
I think a good preliminary tutorial would help with this.
>Having
>things different is unpleasant, regardless of what is "better".
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself
the difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts
that are not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: Barry O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mail client for Linux
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:28:55 GMT
Marco Tephlant wrote:
>
> Barry O'Neill wrote:
>
> > Buck wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > He said multiple pop3 accounts. That leaves Netscape out. Besides, why
> > > stick with Windows-like programs if you're going to run a Unix-like OS?
> >
> > Because it works?
> Works?
> Only if works means crashes, leaks memory, uses loads of resources, takes
> ages to load and can't handle java reliably without crashing. (a known bug -
> the "workaround" from Netscape is "switch java off"!)
Hmm. As we both seem to be using it, it must have *something* going for
it. Now, when is someone going to port Gravity to Linux, or do I have
to do it myself...? :)
regards,
Barry
--
Linux Redhat 5.2. BeOS R4.
Who needs Micro$lop?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BobO)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 18 Feb 1999 02:26:51 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:19:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) said:
|>And if you look at it sensibly it becomes apparent that driving a
|>subcompact is what's horribly dangerous.
|
|To you, yes. Not so much to other people.
|
|It is possible that you have to include the effects of your behavior on the
|world around you when making choices.
|
|Imagine two worlds; in one, everyone drives SUVs. In the other, they all
|drive subcompacts. I doubt that traffic fatalaties would be lower in the
|all-SUV world. I wouldn't be surprised if they were higher.
|
|On the other hand, if you have both, the people in the SUV's are at lower
|risk, because they're passing that risk on to everyone else.
|
Its a survival of the fittest world. If you drive a subcompact then .
. . .what can I say?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: 17 Feb 1999 18:19:17 GMT
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:30:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>It seems as if you are claiming that he did not in fact use any Presidential
>power whatsoever in obstructing justice in this case. It's hard to imagine
>he could act as a private citizen in the case of obstruction. If he did use
>his Presidential power to ostruct, then it does become an impeachment issue.
>You could pose an argument as valid for Richard Nixon issuing his orders to
>burgle Watergate as a private citizen. It's my opinion that as President,
>any action you perform that breaks the law reflects back on the Presidency,
>not just you as a private citizen. Also, any illegal activity you perform as
>president cannot HELP but be an impeachable offense if it in any way relies
>on interaction with or the actions of other people.
Hmmm...so that means Ronald Reagan should have been impeached for
contempt of Congress for conducting an illegal war in Central America
financed by weapons sold to a sworn enemy of the U.S.??? Maybe we should
stop naming roads and airports after him.
Chuck
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From: "David Luksic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet cards
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:49:08 +0100
Hi !
I don't know about theese particular cards, but I have two Compex RL2000 PNP
cards. They have EPROM chips. If cards are new (from the store, like yours)
their EPROM (ROM) is empty. I had to write information to EPROM using a
program I got on the diskette. I did that in DOS.
So, maybe it's the same with your cards. You have to prepare them. On the
other card that goes in ISA slot, I guess that computer doesn't support PnP,
so it's a good idea to check the card and turn it to "non-plug&play mode"
(if they are PnP). Then write info about I/O, IRQ and other settings to
EPROM.
Maybe I am wrong, but that was the case with my cards. After that, they
worked fine (they stiil do:)
Ask David Walsh about EPROM, he said he has a card similar to yours.
And, of course, if I was wrong about EPROM, the problem still may be in the
hardware (wrong I/O addresses, IRQ ports, etc.)
And for the end: If you want to use your card as 'NE2000 comatible', you
must specify I/O address when initializing the card. If you use modules:
modprobe ne.o IO=0xNUM
NUM is I/O address of your card
Lucius.
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From: Mark Skouson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help unremovable file
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:46:51 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Skouson wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have a file I can't delete.... Here is a ls -al in the
> >directory.....
> >drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 1024 Feb 17 12:36 .
> >drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:22 ..
> >drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 Feb 17 11:07 man1
> >drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 34816 Feb 15 16:40 man3
> >c--xr--r-x 1 me 25954 110, 97 Apr 2 1987 man4
>
> Would be a character special file with a major number of 1
> and a minor of 110 ... in short, the 110th ramdisk 8)
>
> Guess you better should make a backup and use debugfs, but
> read the man page first since it means you're manipulating
> the FS on a *very* low level.
> [...]
> >lsattr: Operation not supported by device While reading flags on ./man4
> [...]
> Sure, see above, it's a special file now. If done do a filesystem
> check, just to be sure.
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
> --
> \ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
> \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
> \ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750 \ /
Thanks for the help. I ran debugfs and it removed the file.
Mark
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From: "Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dial-in TTY HELP!
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:23:20 -0600
I have red hat 5.2 and a US Robitics 56k external modem on com 2 and i have
been trying for days to get the modem setup for serial dial in.
In inittab I inserted a line:
7:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty ttys1 F115200
In rc.local I added:
setserial -a -v /dev/cua1 uart 16550 baud_base 115200
I also programed the modem for DTR high and Auto Answer on
When the pc boots up i get a message saying init 7 respawing to fast
Can you please tell me what i am doing wrong?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: Re: xfig discussion: where'w it at?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:39:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timothy Buckelew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> Hi, out there!
|>
|> Does anybody know where xfig discussions might be? There's nothing
|> right now in "x" or "graphics".
Questions about xfig should be in comp.windows.x.apps or comp.windows.x.
I always look in those two newsgroups besides the comp.os.linux.x and c.o.l.misc,
even xfig isn't Linux specific.
And, you can always email me directly :-)
--
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Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: cern.linux
Subject: Re: big endian -> little endian converter
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:37:04 -0500
Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right. So it doesn't solve the problem of reading float values from a BINARY file,
> especially when the file uses a different floating point representation.
Geez, doing the conversion is simple, since both host and target use IEEE
floating point:
double read_double (int fd) {
union {
double d;
char c[sizeof (double)];
} u, u2;
if (read (fd, (char *) &u, sizeof (u)) == sizeof (u)) {
int i;
for (i = 0; i < sizeof (double); i++)
u2.c[ sizeof (double) - i ] = u.c[i];
return u2.d;
} else {
/* handle error */
return 0.0;
}
}
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novice Help: Modem Gone Undetected?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 19:06:44 PST
It's a pretty safe bet that if your modem came with a big-name-brand,
Windows-equipped computer, it's probably a Winmodem. Also, AFAIK, 'all' PCI
modems currently on the market are Winmodems. An internal modem that is not
a Winmodem would be ISA. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'd love to
know who makes a real, hardware-based PCI modem.) Another thing to watch
out for is that it's often unclear whether an internal modem is a Winmodem
or not. The description on the packaging may be unclear, or even downright
misleading.
Matt O.
Robert Heller wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> David Klecha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on 17 Feb 1999 01:14:30 GMT, wrote :
>
>DK> Ho-kay.
>DK> Yesterday I blanked my harddrive and installed Linux. I have a Compaq
>DK> Presario with an AMD-k6 200mHz (233?). Everything's gone just
swimmingly,
>DK> including the Video card and all that djazz. Except the modem.
Usernet,
>DK> when used to dial a PPP connection blinks the status button to yellow,
>DK> then just sits there. No activity, no nothing. Can't hear the modem
>DK> dialing. I *may* have a bum length of phone cord, but I seriously
doubt
>DK> it. (Aside: Does usernet pop any sort of error messages if, say, it
>DK> initializes the modem and fails to get a dial-tone? Or is this
>DK> error-message-less function simply an indication that it can't find the
>DK> modem?)
>DK>
>DK> Now, I just got done reading the FAQ and the Modem HOWTO, and it would
>DK> seem that I may be in a spot of trouble. Linux does (may?) not support
>DK> PnP and Winmodems and whatnot. Linux does (may?) not support any sort
of
>DK> PCI modem. Now, as of yet I haven't been back home to pop the cover
and
>DK> check whether or not I've got PCI or ISA, but when I popped in that PCI
>DK> ethernet card, I coulda *swore* it was PCI. Is this my problem? Or is
>DK> the HOWTO just out of date? I'm using Redhat 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36 I
>DK> *think*), and I also coulda *swore* that the appendix didn't say
anything
>DK> about 56k Compaq modems being incompatible. But I could be wrong? Any
>DK> help? Any advice? Comments to buzz off and figure it out for myself?
>
>Linux does not support 'WinModems', which come as both PCI and ISA.
>Because of the way WinModems are built, they require special drivers and
>use large amount of host processor cycles to work. The 'special
>drivers' are proprietary and not available to the Linux community and
>because of the necessary close-coupling between the host CPU and the
>modem, are not really suitable for a proper multi-tasking O/S like
>Linux. This means it is very unlikely that Linux will ever support
>WinModems.
>
>Many 'cheaper' internal modems are WinModems. It is highly likely that
>you have such a modem. The cure is to get a 'real' modem. The *best*
>option (least hassle and dealer run-around) is to get an *external*
>modem. *ALL* external modems are supported, since all external modems
>connect to a standard (supported) com port. If com ports are scarce,
>you can get a ISA com port board (such as a Boca ATIO55), to implement
>port 3 and or 4.
>
>DK>
>DK>
>DK> dk
>DK>
>DK> --
>DK> _
>DK> _| |_ David A. Klecha = = = = = = = = = = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>DK> |_ _| BofA Candidate, GVSU http://www2.gvsu.edu/~klechad
>DK> | | US Marine Corps DEP Semper Fidelis!
>DK> | | "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with
>DK> |_| all your soul and all your mind." Matthew 22:37
>DK>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
> \/
>Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Methods of authenticating files.
Date: 17 Feb 1999 18:43:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Gary Momarison writes:
>> Someone would do the Linux community a favor if he would follow up with
>> some cook-book methods for authenticating files or links to the same.
>man md5sum.
You should also look into the ultimat veresion of md5sum, alias
tripwire. If you want sginatures as part of the files then PGP
in sign clear mode is hard to beat.
Duncan (-:
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux has too many problems (MS employee trolling?)
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:25:33 +0000
When I first installed Linux I knew absolutely nothing about computers.
A friend recommneded that I try it out. I got it all installed in less
than 3 hours and that was on a 486 with 8 megs of RAM. I had my
X-Windows up and running within an hour after taking off the cover and
actually looking at the video card. And that was all with RedHat 3.0.3
with a 2.0.x kernel.
Sounds to me like you are one of those MS employees I read about, posing
as a valid user trying to discredit Linux. You sure don't sound like
any programmer that I know. In fact, you don't sound like much of a
programmer at all. Most progarmmers document their efforts and are a
bit more descriptive than what you posted..
KJ
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TomX wrote:
> A software engineer's experience on RedHat 5.2:
>
> Extremely difficult to install. (take me one week to get installed)
> Often hang up(esp. in X Window).
> Less descriptive error messages.
> So many problems, Linux still has a long way to go.
>
> I believe all the problems I met are caused by my hardware,
> but why Linux developers can't test on more hardware list?
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From: "Finnskoga W�rdshus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: does people use console or X ?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:42:15 +0100
I am pretty new to this but I just wounder
Does you people usually hang around in
console mode or have you all instaled X?
Anoter one... If I install Xfree (X11 or wht it is called)
vill I nead an extra prog ontop of that like KDE, Gnome
or Windowmaker or is it the same..
please help out
Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: http downloading
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Feb 1999 18:50:54 GMT
On 16 Feb 1999 04:46:42 GMT, YoungSu Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi
>I can't download large file via http because my browser suspend downloading
>suddenly.
How do you know it's your browser causing this?
>
>I'm using netscape 4.5 and lynx 2.8rel.2 as my web browser.
>And I'm using 2.0.36 kernel with slackware 3.6.\
Is this happening with both Nescape and Lynx? If so,I doubt that it's the
browser causing it. Try using an ftp client and see if the same thing happens.
If so I would contact my ISP and ask them for help or see if maybe they are
having a problem.
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From: "Rich Cloutier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Login incorrect
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:08:27 -0500
Unless you set the password with the adduser command (-p password) you can't
log in cause the adduser command by default sets the password to some value
which I have yet to figure out.
The only way around it is to edit the passwd file (as root) in the /etc
directory. You will see two exclamation points in the user line after the
first colon. Delete these, and save the file.
Then log in as your user. Login won't even ask you for a password. Then
while in your user account, set your password using passwd. Everything
should be fine after that.
Rich Cloutier
Upali Bandara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Christian Plent schrieb:
>>
>> I got a little amazing problem (Rehat 5.1).
>> I can't login as a normal user (only root works). The answer is "login
>> incorrect".
>> I've checked my passwd, the available shell, the directory security,
>> etc...
>> Any idea ?
>Me too!
>I Added a new user (adduser), set the password for the user (passwd
>samuel). But a login as samuel did not succeed. Using the command "su"
>you can help yourself, but I don't think you want that to do.
>
>Samuel, 16
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux suxxxx
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:21:39 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 06:14:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
mcadams) wrote:
>[Posted and mailed, snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with
>">"]
>On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:34:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>Odd how people say Linux isn't documented. If they are not documentation then
>>just what does one call man pages, doc files, how-tos, mini how-tos, the
>>distribution documentation...
>
><flame-bait>
>I have yet to see any Linux documentation that is as good as the
>corresponding documentation for Windows. On the other hand,
>documentation doesn't get any better than source code, and you simply
>can't see that on Windoblows. Maybe people just don't like to read
>the source code...
></flame-bait>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>"If you wouldn't pay to do it, why would you do it for pay?" -steve,
>http://www.codetools.com/showcase
if this is the case, how did I learn linux in less time than I learned
DOS? it wasn't from no documention that's for sure. And what
documentation do you refer to for windows? I really haven't found any
that you didn't have to buy. I know linux retail doesn't come with
any documention (or lousy docs) but honestly, have you red the windows
manual? not very much info there. I bought linux from a book store,
the book was almost 3 inches think. gave info on installation,
directory struc, adding users, how to set it up, getting X running,
/dev/* (basic), mounting filesystems, and general networking tutorial-
getting DNS working, ethernet, routing, subneting (concepts) and all
that jazz. I have an NT book that is just at thick and only covers
how it install NT and all the install options with discriptions on
what they would be used for but not how to get them to work.
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FAT32 support in Dosemu?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 18:39:50 GMT
Reinhard Karcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Kit Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: How do I get dosemu to recognize my FAT32 partitions?
:>Make linux recognise FAT32 and lredir the drives.
: But you will get into trouble with long filenames, if your
: DOS can't cope with them (AFAIK).
I thought only the abbreviated names (e.g. longfi~1.txt for longfile.txt)
are stored in the structures the old dos versions access. Do you have any
factsn why you are saying that??
Bye
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Bados)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.user-friendly
Subject: Help w/ wildcard expressions
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:05:11 GMT
Please help a newbie get a grip w/wildcard expressions
What wildcard expressions would you use for the following:
1) All files in the "/tmp" directory
syntax= ?
2) All files that contain a "w" in that directory (/tmp)
syntax= ?
3) All files that start with "ab", contain an "e" and end with ".c"
syntax= ?
4) All files that either start with "test" or contain the pattern "hi"
syntax= ?
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:16:25 GMT
Ross Vandegrift writes:
> though if I wrote it out it would be
> spelled ``*nix" to avoid that nasty copyright issue
That totally imaginary copyright issue. 'Unix' is trademarked, not
copyrighted. You cannot copyright a word. Trademark gives the owner the
right to forbid use of the mark as a label ("mark of trade") for selling
goods or services of the same class as those which the trademark owner uses
it on. It gives the owner no right to restrict any other use.
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From: "Stephen M. Shelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ldconfig errors
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:41:23 -0600
Any time and/or efforts spent assisting me are always greatlyu
appreciated.
ldconfg: warning can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libComGlyphy.so
libComTerp.so
libAttrGlyph.so.....
no such file or directory
Anyone know what causes / how to get rid / what these errors mean????
Peace
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