Linux-Misc Digest #104, Volume #20                Fri, 7 May 99 22:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: PI in C ("D. Vrabel")
  PI in C (mark)
  Re: help please: compiling kernel 2.2.6 error. (Bruno Barberi Gnecco)
  Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT (James Pearson)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Sid Boyce)
  Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running? (Ursa_M)
  Re: Where to get gzip (Ian Hay)
  out of tricks... (Stephen Thomas)
  Re: a) Win98 b) SYS (Matthew Slowe)
  Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!! (Stefaan A Eeckels)
  Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive. (Wayne Kovsky)
  Sun remote boot (Jon)
  Remote printing problem (Michael J Howard)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Tesla Coil)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Peter Seebach)
  Re: PNP Modem and Linux... ("Don Whitlow")
  Re: Help ISDN HISAX 16.3c install (Sid Boyce)
  Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!! (Sid Boyce)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Marco 
Anglesio)

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PI in C
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 20:13:09 +0100

On 7 May 1999, Coy A Hile wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Edward Vigmond  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >mark wrote:
> >> 
> >> How do I get the value (approximation) of pi in a C program?
> 
> or you could do #include <math.h> and 
> 
> #define PI=4*atan(1)
Careful with this one.  Many math coproccessor emulators fail to produce
an accurate value for this calculation.  It is also inefficient unless
your compilier optimises out function calls with constant values (Are
there any that do?)

David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PI in C
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:32:54 -0400

How do I get the value (approximation) of pi in a C program?

Thanks.

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From: Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: help please: compiling kernel 2.2.6 error.
Date: 7 May 1999 15:13:01 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John van der Zanden wrote:

> When compiling (make menuconfig, make xconfig) new kernel 2.2.6 i get
> following messages. Make config works fine. What is the matter ?? spend 1
> hour writing this crap down and typing it in this email, so please !!! help
> !!

        You need not to type it down, you can cut and paste using the mouse
(press the middle button if you're in X) or send the output to a file, using
make &> output.txt

> RM -f include/asm
> (DD include ; ln-sf asm-i383 asm)
> make -c scripts/lxdialog all
> make [1]: entering directory '/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog
> gcc-wale -wstrict-prototypes -02.fonit-frame-pointer-d local
> -I/usr/include/ncurses -dcurses_loc="[ncurses.h]
> -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
> in file include from lxdialog.c:22:
> dialog:h:22:sys/types.h:no such file or directory
> dialog:h:23:fcntl.h: no such file or dir
> dialog:h:24:uninstd.h:no such file or dir
> dialog:h:25:ctype.h:no such file or dir
> dialog:h:26:stlib.h:no such file or dir
> dialog:h:27:string.h no such file or dir
> in file included from dialog.h:29
> from lxdialog.c:22:
> /usr/include/ncurses/ncurses.h:71:stdio.h: no such file or dir
> lxdialog.c:53:lacale.h:no such file or dir
> make [1]: ***[lxdialog.o] error 1
> make [1] leaving dir
> make:***[menuconfig]error 2

        I seems that either you don't have the include files (check the
/usr/include directory) or you don't have them in this directory.

-- 
Did you *REALLY* check that interface between the chair and the keyboard?
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ICQ #1383173 - PGP 5.0i user 
[I'm running Linux] -=-=- Electric Engineering at Politechnic School, USP
http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1980/ * Check for C, 3D graphics, etc

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From: James Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to burn a Linux CD from NT
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:37:34 GMT

In article <7gtk5i$66d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  jmsalvo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> At home, I do not have a CD-Writer, though I have both NT and Linux installed.
>
> At the office, we have a CD-Writer (HP Plus 7200i) on an NT workstation (no
> Linux boxes). no one is allowed to dial-in, company policy.
>
> Can anyone suggest how I can copy a Linux CD to a CD-R using NT with the HP
> software that came with HP Plus 7200i, which is named CD Copier?
>
> I have read that Rock Ridge is needed for long filenames, but how can I turn
> on this feature in NT or in the software? The method used by others that I
> have read in other posts assumes that you have the CD-writer in a box that
> has both NT and Linux installed, which is not the case here. Nor is there a
> way for me to copy contents from my PC at home to work as I have no Zip or
> whatever, only floppies.

Just do a "raw" copy of the CD. It shouldn't matter what's on the CD - you
don't need to access the files/directories on the CD to just do a
byte-for-byte copy. I *assume* CD Copier can do this ...

You only have to worry about the CD file system if you are creating a CD from
files on your host machine.

James Pearson

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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 21:04:33 -0400

Andrew Carol wrote:
> 
> The whole point I've been trying to make (not very well I suppose) is
> that Free software can't win with slogans, ideology, and simply
> attacking proprietary software.  It must convert people by being able
> to do what they want it to do, when they want it done.
> 
        Or stifle competition with lies, FUD and brute force, the other guy's
tactics to a tee, it works .... until!.

> Many people would rather attack Microsoft and blame them for the state
> of the world than to actually make a better propsition to the users in
> terms to _total_ value. (Cost, availability, features, documentation,
> quality, performance, etc)
>
        Microsoft on the other hand makes loud noises about the RELIABILITY of
Windows, the SUPERIOR quality of it, if I were a BELIEVER, I'd believe
them rather than what I experience, they rubbish Linux and the way it's
developed, the motley crew that develops it and state that as the reason
why it's not reliable. Soon, they'll strongarm some outfit to kick Linux
out and install Windows, just so they can proclaim the already printed
banner headline. When a company has to threaten its VAR's not to display
Linux at a show and when the head of that company threatens COMDEX that
he may not be there next year if Linux is invited, the poor rich guy
seems to be "taking frit" (TM -- Mrs. Thatcher).
 
> The sad thing is that *today*, the *average* consumer is _vastly_
> better served by Microsoft than by any Free software.  Of course it
> would be wonderful if this changed over time for the better.
>
        The fat lady aint sung yet! MS knows it better than their worshippers, 
definitely they think are a dangerous bunch, so they hope to cap their
worshippers ears from hearing any contrary message.
        COMMUNISM gave people a choice, you could choose any car as long as it
was a LADA. Microsoft gives people a choice, any OS as long as it's
Windows. The conclusions I draw may be wrong, applying parallels is not
always appropriate, but till recently, if you bought a PC, you HAD to
buy Windows, then came GLASNOST, next I'll wait and see.
 
> The other issue that I have is the unsupported belief that Free
> Software is such a powerful concept that all or most proprietary
> software is doomed to fail if only the people understood that fact.  In
> the end, they would blame some for misleading the people, or the people
> themselves for being mislead.
> 
The other issue that I have is the unsupported belief that proprietary
software is such a powerful concept that all or most Free Software is
doomed to fail if only the people understood that fact. In the end, they
would blame some for misleading the people, or the people themselves for
being misled.
        
> What could the average consumer do today, even if they did
> "understand"?  There is no Free OS for them to run and few Free
> applications for them to use.  So their ignorance about Free software
> can't be the issue.  It simply isn't much in the consumer space.
> 
> Free software has proven itself in the developer/server space, it has
> yet to do *anything* in the consumer space.  I hope it can, but I
> really have doubts that it will be the primary kind of software in the
> consumer space at any point in the next 10 years.
> 
        Hmmmmmmmm..... I'll have to look differently at these two pieces of
iron I have running up my electricity bill, contemplate and drown my
sorrows, for now I've found out they are of not much use. May be I
should go back to Windows so I can do all the things I do now and
marvel. I always had a suspicion nothing worked and colleagues and
bosses were two timid to mention it. 
        Oh.. most Linux people came from Windows and they know the difference.
There has been dramatic growth in Linux useage everywhere and all
without multi-million TV Ad campaigns, may be it has something ????
> ---- Andrew
Regards
-- 
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375 
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
 the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.

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From: Ursa_M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to switch VTs wben X is running?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:30:18 -0400



Ursa_M-->>>While I can switch out of X to another VT, on switching back I am
not

> in X but
> >>just have the same kind of data left on the display as you see upon
> exiting X.
> >>That being said, there is no active prompt although you can type on
> the screen
> >>with no activity other than scrolling in evidence.  I wound up killing
> off the X
> >>processes left open in this test and all seemed to be back to normal.
> >>
> >>How CAN you switch back into X???
> >
> >X usually runs on 7. console (so you have to press Alt+F7, _not_ F6).
>

> Hans Koch wrote:
>
> About the "usually":
>
> When you use several virtual consoles
> (on my PC at home: two per family member)
> you need a way to find out which are used, andby whom.
>
> Does anyone know a place where X keeps a list?
>
> My current "hack" consists in saving the stdout from startx
> in $USER/.startx$N
> where $N is the number of the display.
> To list the various VT's,
> I extract info from these log files and from the output of "who".
> But I suspect that there is a better way ...
>

Ursa_M -->  This is my problem exactly.  I have several VT's going.  Now I
haven't tried just cycling through all of the alt f(n) combinations....
Something to think about.

If you come up with a foolproof, or at least somewhat reliable method,
please post it here.  I am currently on RedHat 5.1 on an AMD K6-2 300 and
generally VERY happy with my Linux installation.  (The Sybase SQL Server was
a very nice and helpful addition BTW.)

Thanks,

Ursa_M


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From: Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get gzip
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 20:27:32 GMT

[posted and mailed]

Slip Gun wrote:

> I am a new Linux user wanting to download gzip. I have found a copy on
> the sunsite archive and downloaded it, but  it's a gz file. Where could
> I get a version of gzip that I dont need gzip to unzip? :-)
> Cheers,
> Ed

(a) I am shocked that it's not already installed on your system.  How
did you install linux?  From CD?

(b) there is no reason to download it: if you installed Linux from a CD,
there is exactly 100% chance that it's on the CD you installed from.
-- 
========================================================
Ian R. Hay                 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Toronto, Canada      <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
"Linux already IS user-friendly ... it's just very picky
about who it makes friends with!"     -- source unknown.
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From: Stephen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: out of tricks...
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:25:12 -0400

Hardware:  Dell Latitude XPi  Pentium 75 8 MB RAM 400 MB HD PCMCIA.

OS:  RedHat Linux 6.0

Problem:  Tried to install RedHat 6.0 via ftp over a PCMCIA ethernet
adapter.  This actually works fine but I run into this error at the
console when it attempts to actually write to disk.

console output:
hda: ST9420AG, ATA DISK drive
hdb: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%, ATAPI UNKNOWN type 10 drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0xf7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: ST9420AG, 401MB w/120kb Cache, CHS=988/16/52
Partition Check:
hda:hda: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
}
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0:  unexpected interrupt, status=0xd1, count=1
ide0: ewawr: master:  ECC circuitry error

I ran the system tools for the laptop and everything checks out OK.
Next I formatted the drive with DOS and it ran that OK.  Finally
I booted the RH6.0 rescue disk, fdisked it, and ran mke2fs on /dev/hda1
and everything seemed OK.  It only misbehaves when I try to install the
OS.  Next I pulled down a debian install disk and tried that.  The
machine loads the kernel and then reboots itself.

I thinking maybe there is some weird interaction between the IDE
interface and the motherboard that is sensitive to anything stronger
than DOS.

Comments or suggestions welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a) Win98 b) SYS
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 21:33:26 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Przem
Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>What is the equivalent of the DOS 'SYS' command in Linux?
>
>There  is no stright way to transfer system from hard disk to a floppy (I'm
>guessing you want to do it).
>
>Przem
>

I wanted to essentially copy essential startup files from /dev/hda1 ->
/dev/hdb1 *NOT* /dev/fd0

Equivalent DOS: SYS c: d:

And then proceed to copy everything else over aswell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!!
Date: 7 May 1999 22:02:14 GMT

In article <7gvie8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Tice USG) writes:

<SNIP>

> No, not really, besides the fact you need people to not be greedy
> and self serving, and to agreee to live a certain way.  Since we
> are long way from that on any large scale, the world isn't ready
> for it - it says something about human nature, not the ideals
> of communism per se.
Other than that it is irrelevant, maybe? I mean, if pigs had wings...

Capitalism tends to be about steering the genetically determined
(cfr our cousins the apes) behaviour of humans, whereas communism,
in order to work, requires humans to be something they can't be.

<SNIP>

>>I think history speaks for itself and has shown communism (and
>>socialism for that matter) to be a dangerous failure, trying to
>>control and plan the uncontrollable and too complex human behaviour,
>>thus naturally resulting in corruption and lots of damage.
> 
> I agree that the attempts so far have been pretty poor, but that
> does not mean it does not have merit, or that there are not ideas
> which can be adapted.  For instance, the notion of cooperatives
> is quite useful, and is being put into practice all around us.
> That is some group of people promise to come together, and do
> things in a certain way for the benefit of all.  This is not a
> bad thing, is it?
No, but isn't a socialist/communist original. Early Christians
did that about 2000 years ago.

<SNIP>
 
> Much safer to examine behavior without "isms" as a label until
> you are done examining, then label it. For instance, to me, 
> M$ products suck, I didn't walk into this assuming they sucked
> I decided for myself first, then came to the conclusion that 
> they suck.  Now, it's possible that some M$ products don't suck,
> but somebody is going to have to make an effort to convince me
> because I'm not going to waste my time sifting through all the
> "crap" for one or two gems.
You know, NT is not a bad OS. It's just neither New Technology,
nor a lot better than say, UNIX. MS is a marketing company, because
its founder is a marketing man, not a technology buff. What I find
strange and irritating is not that MS pushes its products, but
that so many senior executives (and technical people) buy
the MS marketing drivel. I mean, why on earth did the European
Commission (pretty active when preventing steel monopolies) 
decide to become an all-MS shop when there are acceptable 
alternatives to all MS products (except maybe desktop OSes)?

--
Stefaan
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:45:19 -0600
From: Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive.

Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
 
> LILO hangs on the letter L when it tries to boot.  My first drive (sd0) is a
> 9 gig Cheetah LVD and is using Win98 while the second drive (sd1) is running
> a Linux partition.  The SCSI controller is an on board AIC-7890 Adaptec that
> is set to boot SCSI device "0".  Is my problem stemming from the fact that I
> need to partition the first drive to get this to dual boot?  I would prefer
> to not partition the first drive and keep Linux on the second drive.  Is
> this possible?  LILO is configured to run in the linear mode, also.  I'm at
> a loss.
> 
> BTW>I can't get my SCSI CDROM to work, it is recognized at boot-up and when
> linux loads, but I can't mount it.  At load time Linux names it "sr0".  I
> can't find sr0 in the /dev directory.  Thanks.
> 
> Ed

Ed, you didn't say whether you are trying to install Linux, or trying to
boot Linux after you have already finished most of the install.  You
also didn't say which version of RedHat you are using -- I will assume
RedHat 5.2.

If you are trying to boot from a diskette in order to install Linux, you
probably need to download new boot diskette images from RedHat
(http://www.redHat.com/corp/support/errata/rh52-errata-general.html#BootImg). 
The original installation floppys were buggy, and these new boot images
will probably fix your problems.

If you have already installed Linux, but you can't boot from the hard
drive (only from the diskette), write down any error codes that are
displayed, and be sure to note exactly which letter it stops on (L, LI,
LIL, etc.).  Then, if you can access the CD-ROM from a DOS machine, read
\live\usr\doc\lilo-0.20\README, which documents what is causing the
error.

Typical problems are that your /boot partition is not entirely below the
1023rd cylinder of your hard drive (it must be); or that you have placed
the kernel on a drive the BIOS can't access (an IDE drive that is not on
the primary chain -- IDE0 hda, hdb -- or a SCSI drive that is not SCSI
ID 0 or 1).

If you have the RedHat 5.2 manual, you'll find more information in
section "E.6.18 Post Installation Problems with booting computer", on
page 324.

-- 
Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Colorado Software Summit (A Java Programming Conference)
http://www.SoftwareSummit.com

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From: Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sun remote boot
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 00:49:31 +0000


I cant remote my sparc from Intel RedHat 5.1 ??

The kernal doesnt suport RARP.


Does anyone have a RARP module ???

The sun just does    Timout on ARP/RARP packet......... as you would
expect.  I've tried sticking the MAC address in the ARP table, doesnt
work ...........

Any ideas

[EMAIL PROTECTED]         -please mail me !






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael J Howard)
Subject: Remote printing problem
Date: 7 May 1999 15:49:24 -0500

I have a linux server set up as my printhost, and it has been working
fine.  I added a system, and now when I try printing from a remote host,
the system errors:

May  7 09:52:31 nowhere lpd[11]: nobody.nonmae.com requests recvjob lp1
May  7 09:52:31 nowhere lpd[11]: can't find user - can't fork
May  7 09:52:31 nowhere lpd[11]: restarting lp1

Once I add the user to the password file on my server everything is fine.
However, I did not have to have an entry for the user in the past.  My
understanding that as long as the hostname is in hosts.lpd and you do not
use the 'rs' argument in your printcap entry any user from the remote host
should be able to print, and in this case was able to.  I don't know what
changed

The printcap entry looks like this:

lp:\
        :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
        :mx#0:\
        :sh:\
        :rm=hplj8k1:\
        :rp=PS:\
        :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:


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From: Tesla Coil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 20:07:55 -0500

On 6 May 1999 Mike Coffin wrote in reply to Ed Avis:

>> Private companies and individuals have done some bad things too.
>
> True, but hardly on the scale of governments.

Need we list the many profitable environmental catastrophes?  I know
a huge factory that turned off the chimney filters on Sundays and federal
holidays, that is, when the EPA wasn't monitoring.  This activity *after*
receiving the largest EPA fine in the history of the state, which they fully
deserved.  Behind that factory is a stream that glows at night with blue
phosphorous flames on the surface.  It's polluted with over 60 deadly
chemicals.  A neighbor's dog went to play in it, and died of severe burns.
Hardly on the scale?  That is one example of screwed up *forever*, and
not a second-hand report--I used to work across the street from it.


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:17:43 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Joshua E. Rodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Literacy was around 99% in the late 19th century, before there were
>educational systems funded by federal or state governments on a
>widespread scale. Since the implementation of universal government
>education, literacy has declined.

Citations?

-s
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From: "Don Whitlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PNP Modem and Linux...
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 19:08:12 -0500

Yup, as luck would have it, about 5 minutes after posting this question, I
stumbled across a reference to isapnptools.  Thanks anyway for the help.

Don



Don Whitlow wrote in message <7gup32$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi All,
>
>I have recently returned to working on my Linux system, trying to get it to
>work again. I have recently reinstalled Red Hat 4.2, and gotten most things
>working. However, I can't remember what the name of the package was that
>would allow me to set my PNP modem to be at a certain COM number, so I can
>PPP to my ISP.
>
>This used to work, and I know I had to do something to get the COM port
>moved around on my box. I just don't remember what the name of the utility
>was. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
>
>Please, no "Buy a real modem" cracks. :) It's on the list of things to do,
>but I need to get this working first.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Don
>
>



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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help ISDN HISAX 16.3c install
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 21:25:19 -0400

/sbin/insmod isdn
/sbin/insmod hisax type=3 protocol=2 io=0x180 irq=10
        This has worked for me for quite a time on the same card. I'm using ppp
and not ippp as my access to work is through an ISP that doesn't support
ippp.
Regards
Sid.
========================================================================
> Csejtey Gabor Zoltan wrote:
> 
> > I use Debian 2.1. I would like to install
> > an ISDN HIsax 16.3c card with ISA slot into a 486 machine.
> > I used the following command:
> >
> > depmod type=14 protocol=2 irq=10 io=0x580 id=teles
> >
> > I got this message:
> >
> > Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 1
> > Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 2
> > Teles 16.3c: IRQ(10) getting no interrupts during init 3
> > HiSax: Card Teles 16.3c not installed !
> >
> > ISDN unloaded
> >
> > Any help?
> >
> > Gabor Csejtey
> 

-- 
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375 
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
 the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.

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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!!
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 22:01:23 -0400

Peter Mutsaers wrote:
> 
> 
> Microsoft on the other hand comes close to the communist states and
> their enormous conglomerate industries, going for total control and
> domination, having the idea that they know better than yourself what
> is good for you.
> 
        Communism offered choice, you could choose any car you liked as long as
it was a LADA, likewise until very recently, you could choose any OS as
long as it was Windows. I think I spot the parallel here and sadly have
to come to same conclusion as you have.
Regards
-- 
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375 
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
 the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 02:09:35 GMT

On Fri, 07 May 1999 18:51:32 -0400, Joshua E. Rodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Literacy was around 99% in the late 19th century, before there were
>educational systems funded by federal or state governments on a
>widespread scale. Since the implementation of universal government
>education, literacy has declined.

I've read less than half that. Why don't we both dig up our cites? I'm
game if you are; and if you're not, I'm still game.

marco

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