Linux-Misc Digest #104, Volume #21 Wed, 21 Jul 99 02:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Kpppd out ??? Help !!! ("Philippe CHARDONNET")
Re: Sony SDT-2000 Can't mount KDE's tape backup. ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? (Clifford Wagner)
Re: Dial up problem (Peter Marbaise)
Re: state of SGML-tools wrt HOWTOs ? (William Burrow)
Re: Why are things so screwy ? (wayne)
Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work (Larry Ozarow)
Re: HP false advertising!!!! (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Making a privileged user (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Steve Arnold)
Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: /var partition won't allow new files (Stuart R. Fuller)
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From: "Philippe CHARDONNET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kpppd out ??? Help !!!
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:47:25 +0200
Hi eveybody !!
I've been using Linux for a year and first installed a Red Hat 5.1, then a
Mandrake 5.3 a few months ago and I've just installed (and not upgraded !)
the Mandrake 6.0.
Everything is working quite properly (except for some problems mentioned in
the FAQ !) but I can't connect to the Internet through kpppd as I used to do
with my other distributions !!
I've obviously taken a look at the kpppd how-to and FAQ and found out that
my problem stems from a timing problem between the RAS and the PPP
connection.
The FAQ mentions a solution about this : modifying the delay between both
elements.
The point is that I don't know what I'm supposed to do, for the explanations
are a little bit "fuzzy" for me...
I've tried to change the post init and pre init strings value in the kpppd
panel but to no avail...
I've tried a script thanks to the explanations but it didn't work either
probably due to a mistake from me...
Could anybody tell me if I can connect to the internet easily with kpppd or
at the very least if someone managed to find a solution ??
I've installed the Mandrake 6.0, ie with a 2.2.9 kernel.
My provider doesn't require anything particular to connect to . Up to now I
just used the PAP connection and that was it.
Thanks in advance for your answers ! It's quite urgent for I need the
connection to upgrade my Mandrake and download files required to solve
problems mentioned in the FAQ.
I
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sony SDT-2000 Can't mount KDE's tape backup.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:25:19 -0400
>If you are refering to kdat, its busted here too. I even ran it with
>strace, and it *never* asked for a device. Ditto for taper, it core
>dumped and exited about 50 files into getting ready to do a 22,000 file
>backup.
>
Yes, that's the one. I just did a full backup with tar and it worked fine,
at least I think. I will confirm if it backed up everything tomorrow when I
get some time. I guess I'll scrap the kdat idea for now. I don't know if
was me playing with the permissions or if it will still do the same thing in
kdat, but, at least it's working.
>However, if you can find a RH5.1 disk, it has a copy of bru2000 on it,
>and with one semi-major quibble, it appears to be working just fine with
>my 8 gig DDS2 drive.
>
I will look into that program. Thanks for your help.
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:20:48 -0500
In article <7mvri0$om3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In comp.sys.amiga.misc Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> > >Trouble is they HAVE numerical dominance on the Internet.
>
> > Not on the servers. Let's face it, if all the Win9x machines
> > disappeared overnight, no one would notice much difference.
>
> True, but what does that prove ? The point is that a monopoly
> exists in the client market, but not in the server market,
> so client technology is driving server technology, not the
> other way around. In other words: Microsoft says "hop" and
> everyone jumps. See below for examples.
The examples given are somewhat weak when the internet
advances are looked at as a whole. You speak of multimedia
and such, however, RealAudio/RealVideo still has a sizable
lead with .ra and .ram files on the net, and that's cross
platform. Document distribution has somewhat "standardized"
on pdf files, which are also cross platform. What's probably the
biggest bandwith use of the internet nowadays? Network gaming.
Which platform was Quake III released first for? About the only
differences in my internet access between my linux and
windows box is the amount of "extras" in things like ICQ.
Other then that, most anything I can do on Windows I can
do on linux.
> > It's good that you put standard in quotes. MS-CHAP is a
> > "standard" in the same way as Frontpage extensions are a
> > "standard". They came in with NT and are a failing attempt
> > at embrace and extend.
>
> I disagree with "failing". MS-CHAP is succeeding in the sense
> that lots of mindless ISP sysops who don't even know what
> "encrypt passwords" really means checkmark that option in
> NT to give users "more security". As a result non-Windows
> clients also have to support it, because otherwise those
> users will not be able to log in to ISPs requiring it. Try
> to explain to an ISP that you are not using Windows and they
> will tell you that they ONLY support Windows, not "inferior
> operating systems that don't support encryption, for security
[Snip]
>> [MS-CHAP implementation]
>> Not everybody - not by a long way.
>At the client side it is very simple: if you don't support
>it then your users won't be able to log in to a large
>number of ISPs world-wide. That is the reality, regardless
>of what IETF and IETF-PPPEXT say about it -- sadly.
Putting it simply, that's a load of crap.
PAP anyone? Snipping the rest, since the entire arguments here seem to
rest on CHAP, PPTP, and multimedia. Well, taking each of these, PAP is
available pretty much across the board nowadays. It's as easy to set up
on a windows box as CHAP, and is a piece of cake to set up on other
platforms. I used to work for one of the top ISPs in Chicago (in other
words a pretty damned big ISP), and we did NOT support CHAP at all on our
dialup pool. Not with Cisco, not with USR, not with Bay. PAP or
scripts, that's it. PPTP? *shrugs* It's easy enough to set up Windows
machines to handle it without any "intermediate" intervention. Once
again, we never configured a single thing to deal with PPTP. And
multimedia? Like I said before....RealAudio and RealVideo are pretty
much the way most things are nowadays. Although I've seen more streaming
quicktime movies popping up. Cross platform in other words. In 3 years
of watching Microsoft and the internet (going from 3.1 to 95 to 98, with
a little NT tossed in on the side), due to the existing infrastructure, I
never saw a single change made due to a "Microsoft technology". We added
some FrontPage support, but the vast majority still was solaris based
hosting.
Feel free to bring up other examples of where Microsoft has "pushed" a
technology into widespread (close to exclusive would be even better!)
acceptance as a "de facto" standard. The ones you've mentioned don't
appear to be factors at all on the net. Simply "alternatives" offered by
Microsoft that SOME shops have adopted.
--
Cliff Wagner ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Visit The Edge Zone: http://www.edge-zone.net
"Man will Occasionally stumble over the truth, but most
of the time he will pick himself up and continue on."
-- Winston Churchill
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:11:07 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Marbaise)
Subject: Re: Dial up problem
Hallo Charley!
CW> Hi,
CW> i'm a newbie in the Linux world. I found that after I dialed up
CW> my ISP using
CW> Kppp and the connection was successfully established, I couldn't
CW> telnet a
CW> remote server in KConsole, neither could I use Communicator to
CW> surf the net.
what error message do you get ( var/log/messages ) something like "host name
lookup failure" when you try to connect to a host ?
If so add your nameserver IP to /etc/resolve.conf.
ciao Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: state of SGML-tools wrt HOWTOs ?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 03:54:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jul 1999 22:34:43 GMT,
Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Trying to resume work on LILO mini-HOWTO, on three different Linux
>boxes, I notice I have three different, mutually incompatible versions of
>sgml-tools. The version currently available at the abandonded sgml-tools
>Web site (http://www.sgmltools.org/) compiles on Debian-2.1 but cannot
>process the Linux HOWTOs.
>
>Is there a Linux Documentation Project-specific version of
>sgml-tools someplace? Where?
>
>What's Docbook? How does it relate to Linuxdoc?
>
>How can I tell sgml-tools utilities to use Linuxdoc instead of
>the new and mysterious Docbook format?
These and other questions will be answered next week, on the Twilight
Zone!
Seriously, is the LDP even alive any more? I have a mini-HOWTO to add,
but just can't get a response from the email addresses listed there.
The LDP webpage suggests it is being maintained, but how do I know it
isn't just some cron job rebuilding it weekly?
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Why are things so screwy ?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:35:23 -0700
Billy Reynolds wrote:
> David Fouts wrote:
>
> > I was just telling another person that "you don't understand, I actually
> > need to be productive" when I read your e-mail. I've spent way too much time
> > trying to get stuff running and waiting to be productive with Linux. I
> > realize that there are some very productive and useful sites running on
> > Linux but I'm beggining to think that they have guys that do nothing but
> > work full time on playing with it. Linux is neat but I'm afraid it's not
> > ready for prime time but who knows what will happen, I got the RH6.0 version
> > and Calderas new version (both commercial $79 and $49) and I might as well
> > have downloaded them for what you get. I'm not giving up on Linux yet but
> > I'm running out of time that I have to throw away on it.
> >
> > Good Luck with your efforts.
> >
> > -Dave-
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Michael Pacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Vod:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > If you really want to install cutting edge stuff from source, then
> > > > you'll have to learn a lot about what's going on. I tried this for
> > > > months and got not too far, and I have a fair amount of computing
> > > > experience including programming. Frankly I don't have the time or the
> > > > energy just now to get deeply involved in the details of how
> > > > applications work under linux, how the libraries work, etc, though I
> > > > would love to. Having a full time job prevents me from doing so. I
> > > > suppose you are in the same situation.
> > >
> > > Same here, Pacey having a 9 to 5 job doesnt leave much time
> > > for hobbies. All the more reason for frustation.
> > > Thanks anyway.
> > >
> > > > Best of luck, please stay calm.
> > >
> > > (counting 10...9....8...7...6..5..zzzzz)
> > >
> > > > Michael Pacey
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > vod wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > > These dayz i spend more time *trying* to get things to
> > > > > work on Linux than actually doing anything productive.
> > > > > It seems almost 80% of time is spent trying to compile *tar_gz
> > > > > files and rpm'ing rpms that i download.
> > > > > And more than half the times they dont compile straight-away.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > > ======
> > > > > Any tips or solutions or comments to my above mentioned problems
> > > would
> > > > > be very welcome and much appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > * I am running Redhat 5.2 .
> > > > >
> > > > > --regards--
> > > > > -V0D-
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >
> > --
> > ========================
> > Dave Fouts
>
> Wow Im shocked that you are having so much trouble getting things to run. I
> gave a copy of my RH6.0 to a friend and he popped the cd in the drive booted up
> and installed RH 6.0 in about 10-15 minutes. Everything worked great. He had
> gnome and sound and ran Linux config and setup his ppp connection and away he
> went with Netscape. I didnt offer any advice because I wanted to see if a
> person without any linux experience could set it up.
>
> The ONLY thing lacking at this time with Linux is applications. More and more
> are coming out everyday. In 6 months you will see a ton of cool stuff for this
> kick ass o/s.
I have somewhat the same feelings, although I am messing with Linux as a hobby.
The problem as I see it anyway, is that Linux stuff is developed by other hobbiest
who love to program (and that's great; so do I). BUT, for Linux to go bigtime, it
needs professionals to write documentation that is for the average computer user,
not simply other hackers. Writing professional quality technical manuals (see some
of the M$ stuff, and many other Windoz applications) is for professional technical
writers who 1) can write clearly, 2) know who the readers are, 3) assume the user
needs the complete story on the configuration and 4) know how to write in the
English language. It seems to find out the necessary information to get stuff to
work, one needs to spend days reading out-of-date HOWTO's (ex.
WHAT SCSI HOWTO??!!??, there ain't one now), newsgroups, irrelevent README's, and
criptic INSTALL's.
SInce Linux stuff is constructed by non-paid and highly skilled programmers, who
want to move on to more programming, M$ has nothing to worry about. Linux will be
doomed to be web servers, some company network servers, but home PC OS's ??????
Not any time soon.
Wayne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Ozarow)
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:15:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> Lev Babiev wrote:
>
>> > Alot of ppl swear by this card(thats why I bought it), but it doesnt
>> > configure too well under linux.
>
> Tell that to me :/
>
>> > Under Win98 its irq=11 I/O=220 DMA=1
>> > of course it works great under windoze :/
>
> Let's say it works decently...
>
>> > this is what it looks like under /proc/pci
>
>> > #PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
>> > # Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq Unknown device (rev 6).
>> > # Vendor id=1274. Device id=1371. Slow devsel. IRQ 11. Master
>
>> What gave you an idea that AudioPCI is hardware compatible with
>> soundblaster? ;-)
>> Actually the soundblaster is emulated by the very windows driver afaik.
>> You have
>> to compile kernel with support for es1370 or es1371. I'm not sure if
>> 2.0.37 has it
>> (but my guess is not). 2.2.x series have it, also ALSA has support for
>> it. I am
>> using ALSA with 2.3.6 kernel - works like a charm.
>
> Well, I'm with a 2.2.7 kernel and I've included the es1370 module (my
> PCI64 has the 1370 chip) ... but it doesn't play anything.
>
> How should I make it work? I know how to proceed with ISA cards, but I'm
> pretty lost with PCI cards. I've read that they get autoconfigured (PCI
> P'n'P) but no way!!
>
> Any idea? Any hint?
>
> Also, Lev, where can I find a decent explanation on how to makw it work
> the ALSA drivers? I've been to their web but I get a little lost. Maybe
> my english's not enough good? (I'm from Barcelona) What ALSA driver
> version are you using? Is it compatible with kernels 2.2.X or only 2.3.X
> ?
>
> I'll appreciate any help.
>
> Here at comp.os.linux.hardware or at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> - Lev
>
> Sinner
>
Are you sure the module has been loaded?
I'm using an AudioPCI with the es1370 chip. Under kernel 2.2.10 all I
had to do was compile es1370 support as a module. I pseudo-manually
load the driver by including the line "/sbin/modprobe es1370" in my
rc.local file. No configuration necessary.
I used to use the ALSA drivers with a 2.0.x kernel, but haven't gotten
around to trying them with the new kernel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: HP false advertising!!!!
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.intel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT
David J. Topper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: "Stuart R. Fuller" wrote:
:
: > : Isn't that false advertising? Isn't that illegal? Do I (we) have a
: > : case? What's the deal?
: >
: > Calm down and get a life.
:
: I have a great life, thanks. But if it's ok with you, I'll calm down when I
: feel it's appropriate. Corporate entities acting out of line is, I think, an
: implicit vice Linux stands against. At least that's true for some of us.
:
: Your valuable input is appreciated though.
Ok, so it's false advertising. Complain to the Federal Trade Commission.
Illegal? Only if intentional. Do you have a case? A case of what? Have you
tried to return the unit for a refund? Did you get it? If not, maybe you
have a case. Until then, when you feel it's appropriate, calm down.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Making a privileged user
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT
Daniel Forester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi, I wanted to know how to "privilege" a user (my personal user, of
: course).... as in, I've got another drive mounted, but only root can write
: to it; I want to make it so my user can do it as well. Running RH 6.0
: (none of those Gnome or KDE wizards or whatever; I wanna know the command
: line way) ;-) I've looked at usermod, but can't seem to see anything
: that'd do what I want. Thanks...
You probably want to look at the permissions on the directory that the
"another drive" file system is mounted on. If that's the only reason for
adding a priv'd user, then the permission change is the correct solution.
Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Arnold)
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:47:48 GMT
Glenn Wittrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>coffee wrote:
>
>> Im ALSO happy to reply that I use Linux exclusively for any work that I
>> have to do. Its fast and reliable not like windoze that crashes all the
>> time. I run a file server, and two other linux machines. Now, How do I
>> get my girlfriend to start using it??? <grin>.
>
>Show her the solitaire games, that worked for mine.
Yeah, but my wife got hooked on Xgammon. Even she exclaimed (after her first
time in fvwm95): "You know, it looks like windoze, but it runs much better!"
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: DAT tape refuses to load - help?
Date: 20 Jul 1999 23:19:21 -0500
In article <7n201f$ssi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Having recently taken over the work of dealing with tape backups, I find
>that the device has never properly worked. Yes, I have cleaned it
>(rather a bit of dust inside) but that still has not solved the problem.
>Yes, the device takes DDS3 tapes - well that is what the manual says and
>they are the tapes supplied with it.
>
>I have just noticed that the startup log (dmesg) shows the controller is
>'auto-terminated'. would it help if I changed the dip-switches to
>configure a terminator on the drive?
(A) *Both* ends of a scsi bus have to be terminated. The card itself
may or may not be an end, depending on whether you have internal,
external cables or both. If it is an end, the 'auto-termination'
takes care of the card end only (and you probably should go
into the bios and set it correctly). You still must terminate
the other end of the cable(s).
(B) The HP Dats I've seen didn't have a jumper for termination. If
it doesn't, you either need to put something else on the end
of the cable that does have termination or use an external
terminator.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: /var partition won't allow new files
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:00:03 GMT
Joe Schottman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm having a problem with my /var partition, which is on its own hard drive
: partition. I've trying fscking it, and it came out fine. Already existing
: files can be modified or deleted, but nothing new can be created, as it
: gives a "No Space Left On Device" error. Df shows 37% usage of the partition,
: with 28 MB free. The system had been working fine until shortly after 1:00,
: the night before last. I don't know if it is coincidence or not, but 1:00 is
: when the daily cron runs. Also something that popped up at the same time,
: but could be coincidence, is that backspace stopped working properly in X.
:
: The system is RH 5.2 (with assorted updates) with kernel 2.0.36 on a K6.
:
: If anyone has any ideas on what could cause this, I would appreciate any help
: you can give. Thanks,
There are two resources that can get used up on a file system, and cause the
"no space..." message: disk space and i-nodes.
You said that "df" says you have 28MB free. Use "df -i" to get the count of
free i-nodes. Maybe you've run out of i-nodes? If so, then rebuilding the
file system, with a larger i-node count is appropriate. See the man page for
"mkfs" or "mke2fs" for details.
Stu
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