Linux-Misc Digest #177, Volume #20               Wed, 12 May 99 23:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux finally (Alex Kaufman)
  Re: Help - Resolution Setup (Edwin Chacon)
  Re: *.tgz (jik-)
  Re: Starting X at boot-up (jik-)
  Re: Creating Redhat 6 CD image (Michael Sawyer)
  Accessing Windoze drives (Eric The Half A Bee)
  Re: How can use Mathematica? ("Christopher R. Carlen")
  Please help me configure Netscape "Helpers" ("Christopher R. Carlen")
  Re: glib/gtk problems (hellraiser)
  Re: glib/gtk problems (hellraiser)
  Re: Samba and printing. (Nitin Mule)
  Re: tell me linux---? ("Bobby Robinson (REL)")
  Re: kernel too large, what now? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: glib/gtk problems (Josh Stern)
  Re: Tape Backup software (Johannes Niess)
  Drivers for specialised hardware (Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay)
  Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Carl Fink)
  Re: glib/gtk problems (hellraiser)
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with 
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Stephen E. Halpin)
  Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!! (Donn Miller)
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with 
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Gregory Bond)
  Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: quicktime ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal  modemin his linux 
box ? (Andrew Comech)

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From: Alex Kaufman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux finally
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:00:44 -0400

> It took me a while to get X to start up in anything but 256 colors. But
> hours of reading man pages and trial n error and I'm in 24bit colour.
> I'm pretty  sure that I am in more than 256 colours because if looked at

Mind sharing please how you solved this one? I've been battling this
little problem for almost 2 weeks now, no joy.

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From: Edwin Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - Resolution Setup
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:43:27 -0700


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I believe your monitor is supported..but..your video card..might not
be..but..since you got some video seems..to be supported...umm..you could
go into X( GUI) ..and try switching res's ....use Ctrl + Alt + the plus or
minus signs on the number pad...press those three...wait hold CTRL  + ALT
and press one of the SIGNS. + or -  and you will switch one res up or
down...if that doesn't solve you problem then ...try to edit the
XF86Config file..

go to console and try to use midnight commander....  mc command  and go to
/etc/X11/XF68Config file...and edit it...at the bottom you will see what
card you are using...look for

#virtual 640x480
virtual 320x240

something like that.....and you will have to erase the line that has the
# sign in front of it....umm...very long ..story..but if you need
more..email me..

John wrote:

> Here is the deal:
>
> I have Red Hat 6.0.
> I have a Diamond Banshee Video Card
> I have an IIYama 8617E 17" Monitor
>
> How can I get out of the big 320x300 resolution so I can at least see
> what Linux can do.  Right now it is unusable.  I know that the Voodoo
> Banshee card is not listed but surely there is a way to get it to work
> better than that.  Does anyone know how and since I am new to Linux,
> please elaborate.  Thanks very much in advance.

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I believe your monitor is supported..but..your video card..might not be..but..since
you got some video seems..to be supported...umm..you could go into X( GUI)
..and try switching res's ....use Ctrl + Alt + the plus or minus signs
on the number pad...press those three...wait hold CTRL&nbsp; + ALT and
press one of the SIGNS. + or -&nbsp; and you will switch one res up or
down...if that doesn't solve you problem then ...try to edit the XF86Config
file..
<p>go to console and try to use midnight commander....&nbsp; <i>mc </i>command&nbsp;
and go to /etc/X11/XF68Config file...and edit it...at the bottom you will
see what card you are using...look for
<p>#virtual 640x480
<br>virtual 320x240
<p>something like that.....and you will have to erase the line that has
the&nbsp; # sign in front of it....umm...very long ..story..but if you
need more..email me..
<p>John wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Here is the deal:
<p>I have Red Hat 6.0.
<br>I have a Diamond Banshee Video Card
<br>I have an IIYama 8617E 17" Monitor
<p>How can I get out of the big 320x300 resolution so I can at least see
<br>what Linux can do.&nbsp; Right now it is unusable.&nbsp; I know that
the Voodoo
<br>Banshee card is not listed but surely there is a way to get it to work
<br>better than that.&nbsp; Does anyone know how and since I am new to
Linux,
<br>please elaborate.&nbsp; Thanks very much in advance.</blockquote>
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:38:57 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.tgz

Nevyn wrote:
> 
> very simple question i know but how do i uncompresscompleatly a tgz
> file....i used gunzip(?) an it made a tar file that i can nothing
> with...what do i do next?.....if anyones willing to help..mail me an answer
> @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Either that, or tar zxvf file.tgz will do the whole thing all at
once....put a v in there if you want to watch it extract.

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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:37:35 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting X at boot-up

Jim McIntyre wrote:
> 
> Some question about my boot-up process.
> 
> 1. How do I boot Linux directly into X.  I cant' find the command to use
> anywhere.

edit inittab to start in run level 4 (as defined by X, but some distros
may use 5 or 3)
> 2. Do I insert the command into .bashrc or Xinitrc.

I did it in .profile once, starts X when you log in....but I ran into
problems when I wanted to log in remotely.
> 3. Are there any potential security compromises associated with booting
> directly into X.

Not that I am aware of, no.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Jim McIntyre
> Webmaster Program
> Dalhousie University
> Halifax, Nova Scotia

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sawyer)
Subject: Re: Creating Redhat 6 CD image
Date: 13 May 1999 01:19:57 GMT

On Tue, 11 May 1999 02:15:07 +0800, Lee Yeow Leong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to create the CD image for Redhat 6.  I understand that
>the autoboot.bat is pointing to an non-existent file.
>
>loadlin autoboot\vmlinuz initrd=..\misc\src\trees\initrd.img 
>                                                  ^^^^^^

I had the same problem.  Changing the loadlin line to read as followed
solved the problem:

loadlin autoboot\vmlinuz initrd=autoboot\initrd.img

I should note that I didn't boot the CD, but booted DOS and used the
above to start the installation; I have an old 1542 SCSI controller
which doesn't support bootable CD's.

                                        Mike
-- 
Michael Sawyer - My opinions are mine, not necessarily UH's, NSF's, or NASA's
University of Hawaii Physical Oceanography/Satellite Remote Sensing
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric The Half A Bee)
Subject: Accessing Windoze drives
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:27:20 GMT

I`mn trying to figure out how, when logged in as a regular user, I can
save a file (ANY file) to my win drive. I can do it as root fine, but
not as any other user. I tried to chmod the directory name I have it
mounted too (it`s in /mnt. Is that a problem?) and it doesn`t do
anything. I`m going to keep fiddling to try and figure it out, but if
anyone can help with this little problem (more of an annoyance
actually) I would be grateful.
--
Something catchy should go here

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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can use Mathematica?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:15:45 -0400

John Girash wrote:
> 1. User legally purchases Mathematica, installs/registers it, it works fine.
> 2. User's harddrive crashes; manufacturer sends a larger one as replacment.
> 3. User restores system from backup.
> 4. Mathematica no longer accepts the old registration key.
> 5. User contacts Wolfram and is told that the registration key is hardware-
>    dependent, and pretty much any system upgrade will require a new key.
> 
> Please note that the above is pure heresay, I do not know it to be true.
> But given this opportunity I will ask Mr Hinton if it is _accurate_.
> I would love to receive the answer "no it is not".  But if it is, I will
> ask the followup question: should the above situation occur to someone who
> purchased Mathematica for Students as a student several years prior, would
> WR refuse to issue a new key unless the Professional Upgrade was purchased?


A while back they gave me a new key, no questions asked, right over the
phone.  I have the student ver. for Linux, and I added a hard drive to
my system.  I think it has happened twice actually.
 
_____________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  <-- Remove "bogus_field" to reply !!!
My OS is Linux 2.0.29

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From: "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please help me configure Netscape "Helpers"
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:28:51 -0400

I had this working once before, now it's all screwed up.  Lets start
with .pdf

I have in the "Helpers" dialog box the entry:

Type: application/pdf
Suffix: .pdf
Handle by: (Application) acrobat

Now when I click on a .pdf link, I see some sort of downloading action,
then acrobat gets started, but the .pdf doesn't show up.  It gets lost
somewhere.

Anyone know how to fix this?

Later, I will get into the matter of what happens when I try to download
.tgz files.  They seem to want to get displayed in the browser, no
matter what I enter into the "Helpers" options.
-- 
_____________________________
Christopher R. Carlen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  <-- Remove "bogus_field" to reply !!!
My OS is Linux 2.0.29

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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:42:22 -0400

Hylke van der Schaaf wrote:
> 
> hellraiser wrote:
> > Pasztor Szilard wrote:
> > > In comp.os.linux.x Spud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>i just compiled and installed glib-1.2.3 without any problems.  now when
> > > >>i run the configure script for gtk+-1.2.3 it says it can't find
> > > >>glib-1.2.3.  why is it doing this??  nothing went wrong at all with glib
> > > >>and it installed in the proper directories and everything.  any ideas?
> > >
> > > >     Run 'ldconfig'
> > >
> > > The install script should do that.
> >
> > i aldready did that just to make sure and it still didn't find glib!
> 
> Is /usr/local/lib listed in the file /etc/ld.so.conf ?
> if not, add it.
> 
> Hylke

/usr/local/lib is there...

--
hellraiser ( @linuxfreak.com || @nac.net )
awk 'BEGIN { printf "Just another %s hacker\n", ARGV[0] }'
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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:44:59 -0400

NF Stevens wrote:
> 
> hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >i just compiled and installed glib-1.2.3 without any problems.  now when
> >i run the configure script for gtk+-1.2.3 it says it can't find
> >glib-1.2.3.  why is it doing this??  nothing went wrong at all with glib
> >and it installed in the proper directories and everything.  any ideas?
> 
> Check configure.log to see what the exact error message is.
> 
> Run "glib-config --version" to see which version of glib the
> configure script will find. If you have an old version of glib
> its configure script may be in a directory in the path before
> your new version. This will cause problems.
> 
> Norman

my version of glib is 1.2.3, the same as gtk.

this is weird, no?  i was hoping to start programming in gtk and use
other gtk programs, but i guess i'll just continue to program in awk if
this can't be fixed!  maybe the next version of gtk/glib will work...

--
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From: Nitin Mule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Samba and printing.
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:09:18 GMT

Hi,

If you want to load all the printers, add this to your [global] section.
Specify appropriate values for your system.

 printing = bsd
 load printers = yes
 printcap name = /etc/printcap

Does the spool directory /usr/spool/lp1 exist and has correct
permissions set? Add browseable=yes to your [printers] section. I'm not
sure what the defaults are. But it's always better to be more explicit.

HTH,
Nitin.

Brian Seitz wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am tring to get a guest usable printer working on a Samba server on Linux with 
>a Windows NT as a client.  The Linux machine will come up on the NT machine while 
>browsing the network, but I cannot find the printer to add to the NT machine.
> 
> This is what smb.conf looks like:
>       1 [global]
>       2           log file = /var/log/samba-log.%m
>       3           lock directory = /var/lock/samba
>       4           share modes = yes
>       5
>       6 [homes]
>       7           comment = Home Directories
>       8           browseable = yes
>       9           read only = no
>      10           create mode = 0750
>      11
>      12 [tmp]
>      13           comment = Temporary file space
>      14           path = /tmp
>      15           read only = no
>      16           public = yes
>      17
>      18 [printers]
>      19                     path = /usr/spool/lp1
>      20                     writable = no
>      21                     public = yes
>      22                     guest ok = yes
>      23                     printable = yes
> 
> This is what the log file looks like each time the server is started:
> 
>      15 [1999/05/12 13:33:34, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(219)
>      16   file_init: Information only: requested 10000 open files, 246 are available.
>      17 [1999/05/12 13:33:34, 0] smbd/server.c:main(669)
>      18   standard input is not a socket, assuming -D option
> 
> I'd appreciate any help in getting the NT machine to see the Linux printer, thanks.

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From: "Bobby Robinson (REL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tell me linux---?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:55:05 -0400

i have trouble.  i have trouble.  i am trying to make some copy image
disksss.  to begin my trip to having linux.  the problem isthaat my disks
are larger than the files that are larger than required for the  boot
disks thaat i need to load red hat linux.  how do i fix this?  thanx

    




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Subject: Re: kernel too large, what now?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 May 1999 20:16:58 -0400

David Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> jason wrote:
> 
> > David Murray wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying to compile the kernel 2.2.6... well, okay, I already
> > > compiled it.  I had to do a make bzImage because it was too large for
> > > make zImage.  but, Lilo doesn't seem to like it either!  The file is
> > > about 600K but lilo says it is too large.. I cannot make it any smaller
> > > without removing things that I need from this kernel, so what do I do
> > > now?>
> > > --DavidM
> >
> > Compile some things as modules that aren't needed directly at boot time.
> >
> 
> Actually, I am already using as many modules as I can... I'll go back and
> double check to see if there is anything else.. Why can't I use a kernel as
> big as I want?

intel/microsoft brain-damage.

the 16 bit/20 address bits of the 8088 are coming back to haunt you
during the boot phase.  i suppose that a hardware solution for going
directly to 32 bit mode could have been done, but microsoft took 8
years after the introduction of the 386 to get some semblance of a 32
bit system fielded.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josh Stern)
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:53:03 GMT

The copy of gtk/glib on my disk is 1.16, but this is in the
INSTALL file:

**********************************************************
Using an uninstalled copy of GLIB
=================================

You can compile GTK+ against a copy of GLIB that you have not
yet installed. To do this, give the --with-glib=DIR options
to ./configure. For instance:

 ./configure --with-glib=../glib-1.1.16

This, however, will not work if you built GLIB with different
source and build directories.

Installation directories
========================

The location of the installed files is determined by the --prefix
and --exec-prefix options given to configure. There are also more
detailed flags to control individual directories. However, the
use of these flags is not tested.

One particular detail to note, is that the architecture-dependent
include file glibconfig.h is installed in:

  $exec_pref/lib/glib/include/

if you have a version in $prefix/include, this is out of date
and should be deleted.

A shell script gtk-config is created during the configure
process, and installed in the bin/ directory
($exec_prefix/bin). This is used to determine the location of GTK
when building applications.  If you move GTK after installation,
it will be necessary to edit this file.

******************************************************************

When I see this kind of stuff, I usually treat it as a flag to just 
follow the default install directions, as anything else is likely to
be an unfortunate headache.  I wouldn't try and pretend that I
could diagnose for someone else which crucial thing didn't happen
in their build or installation, but I bet it was something to
do with not preserving all the necessary relationships from the
time configure is run through binary installation.

- Josh




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Niess)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Tape Backup software
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 03:51:57 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) wrote:

>On Tue, 11 May 1999 08:21:06 +0200, Wolfgang Ganzert 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>For the KDE window environment there is the kdat program. It allows
>>multiple tars on a single tape and has a GUI which is easy to use. On my
>>systems it does not run stable but maybe this is because I'm using KDE
>>1.0. Maybe with 1.1 the problem is fixed, I don't known.
>>
>>Wolfgang
>>
>>Ron Flory wrote:
>>
>>> > I'm looking for a very easy & good DAT tape backup software.
>>> > Any idea?
>>>
>>>  depends how fancy it needs to be.  'cat file.tar.gz > /dev/st0' works
>>> fine for me.
>>>
>>> ron
>>
>I would also sugggest taking a look at the taper program which is freely
>available.  It ships with SuSE I believe and is also offered as an rpm file
>at the rpm archive sites.  I have also used xbru and bru and they work quite
>well with my Exabyte 8mm tape drive.

On my last look into taper (some months ago) it was still considered
beta and could not work with tapes over 2 GB. It was unreliable, too.

Amanda is my backup program of choice. It is GPL, with a very helpfull
mailing list, it handles dozends of client computers with a lot of
operating systems (Linux, other Unixes, Windows via Samba), it
distributes your load (one tape might contain a level 0 from one disk
and a level 2 from another), output of a self check is mailed and it
handles tape changers. And Idiot can handle it after setup.

Volunteers for writing a GUI will get a lot of help.

I don't know about a missing feature and it is very reliable. Why
spend money for a backup program with less features?

You can find eveything about it at www.amanda.org

Johannes Niess


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From: Rajarshi Bandyopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Drivers for specialised hardware
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 07:49:37 +0530

Hi

I am working on a project involving specialised H/W , eg , nudaq
PCI-9118 high-speed data acquisition card with linux. Is there any place
where drivers of such specialised hardware are archived? Also, if anyone
is acquainted with this card, could that person pls get in touch with
me?

TIA
Raj


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 13 May 1999 09:45:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12 May 1999 20:51:18 GMT Tom Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jerry Lapham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: In the long run, WINE may not even be necessary.  If Corel provides a
>: quality Word Perfect Office suite for Linux and the box makers start
>: preloading it, even MS Office may be in trouble.
>
>It's my understanding that the way Corel intends to do that is by
>helping to complete WINE.

Not quite.  Corel is in fact helping with the WINE project, but one
component of WINE is "winelib", a library that supplies Win16 and
Win32 API functions under X (and eventually GGI and whatever).  So,
Corel is completing WINE, but the goal is a native Linux version of
their suite that won't actually require you to install WINE.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
        -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: hellraiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: glib/gtk problems
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:16:37 -0400

aha!  all i did was 'setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH '/usr/local/lib'' and
'.configure' worked!!  (good thing i read the error message more
clearly...)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact 
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:09:37 GMT

On 12 May 1999 00:49:10 -0700, o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david
parsons) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Stephen E. Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Then you start looking at resource management.  With UNIX, either
>>everyone gets access to the tape drives, or they dont.
>
>    Umm, you *do* realize that Unix has user groups, don't you, and that
>    you can do better than an all or none access scheme via user groups?
>
>    If I set group ownership of /dev/st* to wheel and set the modes to
>    660, nobody who's not in group wheel will be getting access to the
>    tape drives.

Assuming that /dev is not writable by non-root members of wheel,
how do you prevent another member of wheel from accessing the
tape drive once you put your tape in it?  Also, how do you have
a process access two tape drives in two different groups when
the version of UNIX you use allows a process to exist in only
one group at a time?  How is deadlock detection performed by
the OS in either case?  How does a user reserve a tape drive and
an operator acknowledge that reservation when the tape requested
by the user is mounted?  Most if not all UNIX systems seem to
limit the number of groups you can concurrently belong to, and
some limit the number of users that can belong to a group to
as little as a few hundred.  Yes, in some cases groups can be
used with limited success, but on a large system with tens of
thousands of users they can become completely useless.

>                  ____
>    david parsons \bi/ Am I missing an invisible footnote here?
>                   \/

-Steve

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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Microsoft is the Communist!!!
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:48:44 -0400

imagine_me wrote:
> 
> Wanting to buy and control every-fucking thing...
> "... They spend billions(?) in research" Come fucking on... research of
> what?  Fucking win9x is not billions worth to develop... it's a piece of
> shit!

Microsoft probably does spend billions developing NT and 98. 
What does this say?  Well, maybe there is an overhead somewhere
in MS R&D, so they have to "overshoot" their goals a little.  If
you think about, you would probably never go to work for MS over
the "principles" of working for Bill Gates and his monopoly.  But
if MS put enough money in front of you, you would probably give
in eventually (I would too).

Also, I saw where Microsoft is luring some pretty talented
professors away to work for them, the cream of the crop.  So, MS
has to up the ante on the salaries to get those brainiacs to work
for them.  Bill knows money talks when hiring personnel.

Which brings me to my next point.  What effect on the Computer
Science community does this have?  A lot of professors are going
to work for MS on their research "campus", so now there'll be a
shortage of instructors teaching computer science.  But this can
be a good thing also, since it will create more jobs for aspiring
computer science professors.

So that is where all the research money is going - luring
top-notch college professors away from their lucrative positions.

--
  Donn
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Gregory Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact 
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 13 May 1999 12:30:24 +1000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin) writes:

>  Also, how do you have
> a process access two tape drives in two different groups when
> the version of UNIX you use allows a process to exist in only
> one group at a time? 

So you're running V6 are you?  On what hardware?  Multiple groups has
been in all versions of Unix more-or-less forever.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:28:25 GMT

o wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        >snip<
:>: Most things work, but the time it takes to track down and fix a couple of
:>: bugs just isn't worth it when you can replace everything at once for the
:>: same (free) price.  And before someone says that freebsd doesn't have
:>: problems like that
:>
:>      It doesn't.
: 
:     He goes on to list a situation where FreeBSD *does* have problems
:     like that, which makes your followup seem inane at best, self-
:     defeating at worst.

        You'll note I then went on to explain why his "situation" is a myth,
        little more then baseless FUD.

        His arguments about shared library changes that bring Linux to its
        knees simply don't exist under FreeBSD.

        His arguments about not having a C compiler simply don't exist under
        FreeBSD.

        His "situation" is almost completely unique to Linux systems.

        His argument is bunk.

-- 
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

        My code is filled with comments!  It's just that my comments are
        written in Perl.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: quicktime
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:37:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Allan Adler  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Is there a way to watch quicktime movies under RedHat 5.1 Linux?
>
>Allan Adler
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

        I've downloaded some files that are supposed to be quicktime,
(they have a 'qt' suffix and running file on them says they are quicktime)
and xanim plays them.  Compile or link in every codec you can when you
build xanim.

-- 
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum. 
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used."  With apologies
to Cato the Elder)
       ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Some USR modems are MS-only, Re: [SURVEY] Who has an internal  modemin 
his linux box ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 May 1999 20:01:07 -0500

On Tue, 11 May 1999 09:28:17 -0700, Charles Morley wrote:
>
>
>Jan Johansson wrote:
>> 
>> >It would be good if 3Com would label its retail packaging clearly,
>> >so we could know at point-of-sale which modems in its product line are
>> >Microsoft-only.
>> 
>> They do. They say "winmodem" or "sportster winmodem" on the box.
>
>They also say(mine did) on the back of the box: for windows only

This is not easy to read the back of the box when ordering over the 
phone or internet, though..
a.
-- 
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem

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