Linux-Misc Digest #195, Volume #20 Thu, 13 May 99 23:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Printer Help Please (Long Reply) (J.M. Paden)
Re: Alternative to OSS for Sound Blaster PCI128? (Joshua Martin)
Re: USB Support (jik-)
Re: Does Linux have IRQ's ("David Means")
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (brian moore)
Does Linux have IRQ's (Al)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Craig Dowell)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Christopher Browne)
Getting PPP to work ("Jay")
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Tom Payne)
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (Christopher)
Re: Getting PPP to work (David Heinzinger)
corel wordperfect 8 for linux (XET Elec)
TV (Lothar Krenzien)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (Joachim Feise)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Richard
Kulisz)
drivers for trantor t160 scsi card? (William Schwartz)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.M. Paden)
Subject: Re: Printer Help Please (Long Reply)
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:27:05 GMT
Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to get my Epson 640 printer working under Linux. I am not asking
>how to do it. What I am asking is 'what do I read?'.
>
>I know nothing about setting up a printer under LInux and there are tons
>of man pages, info, etc etc. I dont know where to start. Could someone
>suggest what I shoud read and in what order I should read it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Brad
>
Get a copy of the Linux Printing HOWTO and the Linux Printing Usage
HOWTO>
The following is a copy of a checklist I developed while struggling to
get my own printer working under linux for the first time using
Slackware.
lpd will not function unless you are configured for tcp/ip, even if
you are not using it to connect to a network or the internet. For
Slackware look in Disk n5. lpr is located within tcpip.tgz file now.
Note: The following exception has been noted by C.J. Read:
"However there are exceptions, notably the lpd in
slakware/a1/bsdlpr.tgz
(only 70k of tarball too!). I have a laptop with no networking
installed but lpr functions, as does "magicfilter"."
You can make the necessary configuration changes by logging in as
"root" and using the command:
netconfig
This will prompt you for ENTER HOSTNAME: pick any name you want to,
but I suggest you use all lowercase. You will then be asked for
domain, which in your case will be eaze.net. You should also say yes
to "Only use loopback".
As for /etc/HOSTNAME:
<name_you_have_assigned_your_box>
My linux box is known as trivium and this is the
only entry in etc/HOSTNAME. You can name your box anything
you wish.
When you configured your kernel at time of installation, did you say
yes to parallel printer support? If not, do so when you reinstall.
I suggest you doublecheck. I just finished changing from an
old kernel to 2.0.33 and distinctly remembered several entries in my
configuration that did not make it into the .config file. I am not
sure if it was because of my typing, or whether there is an occasional
problem in the software that causes this problem. To double check you
can:
cd /usr/src/linux
ls -a
less .config
Note: Make sure you use the "." in ".config".
There should be an entry under the #character
devices section
CONFIG_PRINTER=y
To confirm the identity of the printerport:
dmesg | more
This should show something like "lp1 at 0x0378, using polling
device
0x378 is /dev/lp1
Do you actually have a filter in /var/spool/lpd/lp? If you
don't, you will need to put one there. If you do, check to see if any
part of it looks wrong.
There are some occasions where the printer is actually on what
linux considers to be lp0, instead of lp1.
I suggest you try the following:
cd /etc
edit the printcap file with vi or whatever editor you prefer.
Put a # in front of :lp=dev/lp1:\
insert a new line:
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
Then try to print to see if this changes anything. If it does
not, then remove the line re lp0 and the # in front of the old line re
lp1.
If you are running syslogd, you can look in your logs for
messages from lpd. If there is one saying it "cannot execv "name of
input filter", your problem is with the filter.
syslogd messages are available in two files. You can access them
by:
As root
cd /var/log
less syslog
or
As root
cd /var/adm
less syslog
or
tail -50 /var/adm/syslog
This will show you the last 50 lines of the syslog.
cat /proc/devices
Is there a 6lp? If there is, then lp is loaded.
cat filename > /dev/lp0
and if that doesn't work, then try /dev/lp1 or /dev/lp2 --
still no
printer action, then you might have to recompile your kernel.
ps -ax | grep lpd
If you get something like 48 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/lpd, then lpd
is running.
Did you create a spool file? Something like
mkdir /usr/spool/lpd/some name for your printer
Does it have the right ownership and permissions? If you do not have
the x (execute permission) nothing will work.
chown root.daemon /usr/spool/lpd
chown root.daemon /usr/spool/lpd/some name for your printer
chmod ug=rwx, o=rx /usr/spool/lpd
chmod ug=rws, o=rx /usr/spool/lpd/some name for your printer
Did you create the additional files in your spool directory?
cd /usr/spool/lpd/some name for your printer
touch .seq errs status lock
chown root.daemon .seq errs status lock
chmod ug=rw,o=r .seq errs status lock
Note:
You use "touch" to create files and establish the creation
date for files. You need all four of the files
(.seq errs status and lock). The .seq file will contain the job
number counter for lpr to assign. errs is the place lpd sends errors
for logging. status is the file that contains messages that will be
reported when you type: lpc stat. The lock file is used to prevent
lpd from trying to print two files on the same printer at one time.
Do you have these files? Note the "." in the ".seq" file. You can
only see it if you use ls -a. If you do not have these files then
create them with the touch command.
Are you using a filter? Is it properly included in your printcap
file?
Do all the lines (except for the final line) of your printcap file end
with a backslash "\" ? If any of them, except for the last line, fail
to have a trailing backslash, the process is stopped.
Is there a trailing "ghost" space or tab after any of the "\" which
end the lines of your printcap? If in typing the printcap entries you
inadvertently hit a spacebar or tab, there will be a "ghost" space or
tab. You will not be able to see them, but they will cause a failure
in the execution of the printcap at that point. You can search for
the "ghosts" by :
vi /etc/printcap
Do not hit the "i" for insert, but move the cursor to the end of each
line in the printcap file by using arrows and
"end". If there are hidden spaces/tabs the cursor will go beyond the
"\" at the end of the line. If there are any spaces there, eliminate
them by using "x".
I suggest you also try:
echo $PRINTER
This will identify what your printer is identified as
within the file /etc/profile.
If the response does not match your printer, then type:
PRINTER=lp | export PRINTER
or
add a line to the /etc/profile
cd /export
vi profile
hit "i"
export PRINTER= lp
hit Shift-:
type: wq
Enter
Is your device initialized?
try 'ls > /dev/lp0' or 'ls > /dev/lp1'
Make sure you are root when you do this as only root can
write directly to the device)
There should be a symbolic link between /usr/spool -> /var/spool
ln -s /usr/spool /var/spool
My own printing problems were solved when I downloaded a copy
of apsfilter and installed it. The apsfilter program took over the
creation of all the necessary entries in printcap and established the
files and dependencies for me. If you continue to have problems, I
recommend that you try apsfilter. You can find it at :
sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-4.9.1.tgz
If you are able to successfully print, but at some later date
suddenly find that you begin receiving messages that the lpd daemon is
not present, there may be some printing files that have been left in
the queue that your filter cannot identify. Delete these files and
then try again. This may cure the problem.
Regards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The last temptation is the greatest treason:
To do the right deed for the wrong reason."
--T.S. Eliot
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From: Joshua Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Alternative to OSS for Sound Blaster PCI128?
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:39:04 -0700
Check out ALSA
www.alsa-project.org
I use it with my pci128 because it takes advantage of more of the cards
features and produces a better quality sound.
--Joshua Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
>
> What are my options for running a SB PCI128 sound card? I'm using OSS now
> and it seems to be OK, but I'm curious if there are alternatives that will
> work better. I copied all my sound themes over from Win98 and only half of
> them work, the other half don't play. I think this is a problem in OSS
> since they are all *.wav format. Thanks.
>
> Ed
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:45:45 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: USB Support
Jim Hill wrote:
>
> In <7hf57t$i91$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What does minimal mean?
> >Is it realistically unworkable but a public beta?
> >
> >Surely it couldn't be that situation since that is one of the fundamental
> >criticisms of MS ;-)
>
> Actually, the _fundamental_ criticism is not that Microsoft releases
> public betas but that they (a) charge for it and (b) never quite seem to
> get to the real, debugged, working release.
And MS Beta is Linux pre-alpha,....can do very bad things to your system
without you doing anything wrong. IE comes to mind on this point, the
beta for 4.0....I was told to say clear of it by my ISP at the time
which was a major supported of MS and their products, even basing the
webpage upload on an MS invented protocol. Never saw first hand the
damage it did, but heard it was bad.
Also, their web page maker publisher thing was in awful shap in its beta
for...didn't even work at all. Guess I got lucky on that one that it
didn't break anything.
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From: "David Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Does Linux have IRQ's
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:46:02 -0700
Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Does Linux have IRQ's?
>
Linux running on an Intel architecture does indeed
have IRQs. (How else would the Pentium field an
interrupt?) But generally, you don't need to worry about
them very much, since the OS is so much better
about figuring these things out by itself than some
pretenders to the title Operating System.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 11 May 1999 17:34:10 GMT
On Tue, 11 May 1999 11:51:58 +0100,
Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rememer that this man has been working with/on Unix longer than anyone
> else. He invented it. He didn't rip it off from other peoples'
> implementations, he took a few simple ideas he liked and started pretty
> much from scratch.
Now, that's not true: Unix stole many concepts from Multics. (And it
also refused to do some things due to Multics's crappy implementation of
them.)
Thompson has freely admitted this. Multics was the godfather of
operating systems and had a lot of ideas worth stealing and proved a lot
of things were truly stupid ideas worth avoiding.
> > In a non-PC environment, it just won't hold up. If you're
> > using it on a single box, that's one thing. But if you want to use
> > Linux in firewalls, gateways, embedded systems, and so on, it has a
> > long way to go.
>
> I agree with this wholeheartedly. The vast majority of the Linux
> community just don't understand the demands on commercial production
> boxes, or that these are demands Linux can't yet meet.
Really? I use Linux as firewalls all the time.
Firewall #1 has been running for two years with precisely one reboot
(when the building it was in relocated -- shut it down, carried it to
the new building and plugged it in).
Firewall #2 was installed 8 months ago, and is running fine and dandy.
(Though the vendor on the other side of it is foolish, continually
claiming the firewall crashed.. and then when told, "no, it's running
fine" they discover their T1 is down... duh.)
Neither system has ever crashed. Both are really crappy hardware (386's
rescued from the dumpster with 4M of RAM and whatever the smallest HD we
had around at the time was). Both have been excellent in performing
their new duties.
I've got a couple more that are supposedly going to be deployed at some
point, but people keep changing network topology, so now they're waiting
for the humans to calm down.
> Linux folk are just as over zealous in the defence of their computers as
> and user community. (With the possible exception of the Amiga nuts.)
> There is an all-too prevalent attitude that Linux is the best at
> everything, and that it is the only alternative to entirely useless
> Microsoft products. Wrong, wrong, and wrong. Linux is good, but it's
> only Unix, and a flawed and immature Unix at that. And, like it or not,
> Microsoft OSes are getting better and will continue to rule the
> computing world for as long as their are clueless managers to buy them.
I see no evidence that Microsoft's OS products are getting better:
NT3.51 was far more stable than NT4. (We have 3.51 running on a pair of
servers here because NT4 wasn't stable enough for the application.)
NT5, er, WindowsY2K, claims to be moving still more code into the kernel
("for performance") -- ignoring that code running in ring0 can easily
take down the whole system when there is a simple bug. I don't expect
that to do much for stability.
> I know Linux has greater stability and less overheads than NT. But I
> also know that it doesn't run Word or Excel, and that's what counts
> these days. Thompson is probably right when he says Linux won't be
> successful in the long run. As Unix's market share gets squeezed by NT,
> only really important systems will be left running on it, and for those
> people will be prepared to pay big bucks for the reliablity and support
> of HP, IBM or Sun.
I've never seen a need to use either Word or Excel.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Does Linux have IRQ's
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:52:23 +0000
Does Linux have IRQ's?
Thanks
Al
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Dowell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 11 May 1999 19:02:39 GMT
Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I define a free market economic system as one in which individuals, rather
>>than government, make most of the decisions about economic activities and
>
>But since "government" is just "a bunch of individuals" then a command
>economy is a type of free market by your definition.
Uh huh. There is no difference between a free market and a command
economy. Sheesh. Hey, I can play this too: Cars have four things
touching the ground and a big part on top. Cars are a type of horse.
This is a real winner, there, Richard.
>>role in certain circumstances. The Government is more involved than I'd
>>prefer nowadays, but we certainly don't have a command economy.
>
>We do.
I didn't realize that the folks in Moosejaw got their marching orders
from Ottawa. Hmmm. That explains a lot about the world-class products
flowing from Canada, eh?
>>>the liberal doctrines you espouse developed in the 18th & 19th century
>>>just as the reality they attempted to describe was transforming them
>>>into nonsense. yes, a worker is free not to work, but this is more or
>>>less the freedom to starve to death.
>>
>>What in hell are you going off about? Are you bridging off into a
>>discussion of the merits of liberal socialism / social democracy?
>
>He's talking about the fact that labour is not a free agent. That
>labour is essentially enslaved.
Uh huh. Let's redefine slavery a little more, eh? Bring up the Nazis,
the fascists.
>Do you even know what "the law of supply and demand" originally meant,
>moron?
*Yawn* Whenever one reads the word moron in a post, it can be
assured that the following content will ... Oh never mind; it's a wasted
effort. I defer to your obviously massively superior intellect.
>It meant that if wages rose then the working class would breed,
>thus increasing supply and decreasing wages. OTOH, if wages declined
>then the working class died off until the decreasing supply of labour
>increased wages enough to let the working class survive. The "law of
>supply and demand" was about how workers were *animals*!
>
>Every 19th century economist recognized that "the law of supply and
>demand" meant workers would be paid ONLY enough to avoid starvation
>and *no* *more*. The fact that this was a "law" was "small consolation
>for individuals who have no other means of survival than their labor."
>to quote Adam Smith.
Believe whatever you want. Feel free to implement a workers paradise
in Canada. Since Canadians are basically good people, it'll work there
for the first time and you'll show us all.
Good luck with your new economy, comrade.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:44:56 GMT
On Thu, 13 May 1999 15:58:04 GMT, Marco Anglesio
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 13 May 1999 04:50:34 GMT, Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>1) It's *fiction*
>
>Even the *slowest* college student knows that books can be political.
Only the "less slow" ones figure out the subtlety that what a
character says does not necessarily represent the author's opinion of
How The World Should Be.
Heinlein was noted for having his books explore what most resemble
"proposals" for ideas; the real point is not so much to say "Here's
how the world ought to be," but rather "Here's an idea, and a
suggested way the world would change under the circumstances. Think
about it..." It looks like he revisited ideas that he approved of;
note that the most controversial of the ideas in Starship Troopers
were *not* so revisited.
--
"Java and C++ make you think that the new ideas are like the old ones.
Java is the most distressing thing to hit computing since MS-DOS."
-- Alan Kay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/sf.html>
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From: "Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Getting PPP to work
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 05:58:16 -0400
Can anyone explain how I can get PPP to work. First I noticed that PPP was
not installed. So I recompiled using 'make config' and 'make dep'. Then I
recompiled the modules. However on rebooting I still can't find PPP as
installed. What am I missing?
-Jay
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From: Tom Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: 11 May 1999 18:17:21 GMT
Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
: The vast majority of the Linux
: community just don't understand the demands on commercial production
: boxes, or that these are demands Linux can't yet meet.
[...]
: As Unix's market share gets squeezed by NT,
: only really important systems will be left running on it, and for those
: people will be prepared to pay big bucks for the reliablity and support
: of HP, IBM or Sun.
In my experience Linux is as good as or better than Solaris as an NFS
server supporting a few hundred workstations, as a timesharing system
supporting 100 to 200 concurrent users, as a mail server, as a DNS
server, as a netnews server, as a Samba server serving a few hundred
Windows machines, etc. When it comes to ISPs, firewalls, and
commercial web servers, I'd conjecture that Linux installations
outnumber Solaris and HPUX combined.
Linux has not yet penetrated the area of high-volume transaction
processing and very large databases, but I suspect that has to do with
the lack of a good logical volume manager and journaling file system,
but AFIK those are under construction. Even so, what OS are people
going to run on the 8-processor Intel systems that are about to hit
the streets? Certasinly not HPUX, AIX, or Solaris.
On the desktop, Linux is hampered mainly by its inability to run the
standard desktop software, which is distributed mostly as Win32
binaries. The WINE project, however, is gaining momentum and can now
show some significant results.
Tom Payne
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From: Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 02:22:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "J=FCrgen Exner" wrote:
> > =
>
> > Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [...]
> > > I sure wished
> > > Redhat would change their installation procedure to keep lilo out
of =
> the
> > mbr. That
> > > would also cut down on the amount of newsgroup questions on this
topic
I don't know why anyone would want to boot off of the disk drive anyway
they sould all boot off of the network. Netrom has the right idea. I've
never been able to use lilo except off of a floppy and that's the worst.
crank crank crank ... while ya wait. Maybe someone has fixed lilo by now
but last year if you had 12 gigs and didn't want it partitioned... you
were in for a suprise.
Any Questions?
--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
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From: David Heinzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Getting PPP to work
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:28:04 -0500
Once you have selected ppp as either module or in kernel save it. then
use this
make dep;make clean;make bzImage;make modules;make modules_install;make
bzlilo (bzlilo if you are using lilo or make bzdisk for boot disk.)
This should do the trick.
--
Dave.
"I love explosives, by any chance are you blowing anything up today?"
Bob Vila from an episode of "This Old House".
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From: XET Elec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.install
Subject: corel wordperfect 8 for linux
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:30:08 -0400
Hi:
I've just installed Redhat 6.0 on a blank hard drive. I had been using
Redhat 5.2 with Corel WordPerfect 8 on this machine, but for several
reasons I blanked the disk and started over. I reinstalled WordPerfect,
and I've found that I now can't properly open Microsoft Word 6/7/8
files. I get a "Filtrix can't convert the file" error. Previously, I
had been able to read the exact same files when I was running on Redhat
5.2
Does anyone know of a reason this might be? In every other way I've
tested, WordPerfect runs fine.
Thanks. Please copy any responses to my email, if you would.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Lothar Krenzien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:27:57 +0200
Has anybody some experience with installing ( Hauppauge or Miro ) TV
cards ? On my system with Suse 6.0 and kernel 2.2.7 it won�t work.
Lothar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:42:49 -0700
On 13 May 1999 11:38:58 -0700, Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Yeah, a libertarian is a person who fancies himself genetically and
>> morally superior to the rest of the human race. He spouts a line of
>> political pseudo-philosophy that incorporates the word `freedom' in
>> every sentence & that is all designed to justify his own position at
>> the top of the ant hill.
>
>In that case, I've never met one of these "libertarians," or read
>anything written by one.
I've encountered plenty. Infact, all of the local libertarians
I've encountered have been of this 'just get the gov off our
backs to that we can rape pillage and plunder' type of liber-
tarian.
Speakers at the last convention (CSPAN) seemed more reasonable.
>
>It would save everyone a lot of time if you and Richard would get
>together and write a dictionary so we can all figure out what you're
>talking about. We keep assuming you use common English definitions of
>words, and finding out only later that you mean something else
>entirely.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:12:47 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"J=FCrgen Exner" wrote:
> =
> Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [...]
> > I sure wished
> > Redhat would change their installation procedure to keep lilo out of =
the
> mbr. That
> > would also cut down on the amount of newsgroup questions on this topi=
c.
> =
> I have to disagree.
> If you are not installing LILO in the MBR, then you must have some othe=
r
> initial step boat loader.
> Why would you want to enforce the use of (usually) a DOS boot loader? T=
here
> are people, who don't have DOS.
That is not true. If you buy a brand new disk, it is already low-level fo=
rmatted and
has a mbr written to it. On the last Maxtor disk I bought I installed Sla=
ckware and
put lilo in the partition boot sector, and it gets started fine.
All that the default mbr does is to check for an active partition and boo=
t that one.
It just happens that the mbr that the DOS fdisk writes does the same thin=
g. This
probably is the only thing that MS ever got right ;-)
-Joe
-- =
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jfeise/
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If you spent any time administering Windows NT, you're far too
familiar with the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) ...
- "MSDN Flash" email newsletter, 2/8/1999
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 14 May 1999 02:38:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I could agree with this - debates here at work about Microsoft are along
>the lines of "of course the consumer has a choice - they can choose to
>not use computers."
>
>However, you left out option 4 - the option of getting lucky and landing
>a really good job where the employer looks out for the employees. I
>work for a fortune 100 and was offered a move to a large networking
>company doing consulting. I turned them down because of the integrity
>of the people I work with.
Nobody holds out any hope for this. What most people would put as #4
is winning the lottery.
>That said, this seems a really odd newsgroup to be carrying on about
>communism/capitalism. <shrug>
The free software community can be construed as an anarcho-syndicalist
commune; or at the very least, a proto-commune. Certainly, it bears no
resemblance to capitalism, regardless of what some twits maintain.
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From: William Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: drivers for trantor t160 scsi card?
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:00:20 -0500
Are there drivers (for redhat 6.0 or 5.2) that work with the trantor t160
scsi adapter? Card is dated 1993 so not _too_ old but the chip isn't an ncr
or anything that appears available in my list of modules.
thanks,
Bill
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