Linux-Misc Digest #195, Volume #25               Fri, 21 Jul 00 09:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: cant get out of x term. in mandrake (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: NFS Server Recommedation (DeAnn Iwan)
  Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Uncle Fester)
  Re: Reporting software and Relational Database ("Jeffrey S. Kline")
  Re: minicom (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Filesystem always reported as 100% full ("Jeffrey S. Kline")
  Linux RamDisk - performance (Alberto)
  Re: getting to my gui (Alex Chudnovsky)
  Re: audio on cdrom? (Alex Chudnovsky)
  Re: Random Power Shutdown ("Jeffrey S. Kline")
  Re: looking for tape device (-ljl-)
  Re: Howto run 2.4* kernel? (Timothy Murphy)
  Re: off topic? linux based content management system (lee stone)
  Re: Copying files without changing the timestamp? ("Luke Th. Bullock")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: cant get out of x term. in mandrake
Date: 21 Jul 2000 11:58:40 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ installed mandrake, cant get into KDE.  Newbie here, anyhelp will be 
[ greatly appreciated.

How far does it go, you need to supply more info. ALso check out 
mandrakeuser.org for common problems with X and/or KDE
--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098
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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NFS Server Recommedation
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 08:08:01 -0400

     With 50 clients, I assume you are trying to set up for a business. 
If you do not know the answers to your questions, then you would really
benefit by hiring someone that does.  This does not have to be a
consultant or employee...it could be going to a Linux system
vendor/supporter (like Penguin or VA Systems) or an OS provider with
heavy duty service packages (like RH) that can hold your hand a lot as
you get started.  In the long run, you should save more $$ than you
spend by doing this.

Bobby Sardana wrote:
> 
> Greetings:
> 
> I am seeking information about the following:
> 
> a. Recommendations for linux hardware (assembled or configuration) to
> perform reliable, scalable network server that can serve up to 50
> windows/nt clients and 50 UNIX clients.
> 
> b. The storage capacity of the network server can be anywhere from 500
> GB to 1 TB.
> 
> c. The connectivity to the switch should be via gigabit link. Any
> recommendation about the NICs for gigabit?
> 
> d. Filesystem configuration or recommendations. What happens if the
> machine goes down? Will the system perform a 'fsck' check on the 500 GB
> filesystem? That might take substantial time and delay the functionality
> 
> of the server. How is this problem solved by folks who actually
> implement a linux based NFS server?
> 
> e. Also, how will the above scale (performance & reliability) to much
> expensive models like Sun Enterprise 3500 or the NetAppliance 700
> series?
> 
> f. Any RAID recommedations?
> 
> g. Any backup software recommendations?
> 
> Any information on the above is appreciated.
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Bobby Sardana.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Uncle Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:17:28 GMT

S�bastien Tixier wrote:
> 
> Well, i have a MS FF Wheel, i don't think there will be Linux driver :o(
> 


I'd almost bet the farm on it. ;-)

-- 
Chuck Kandler

A man is no less a Slave just because he is 
allowed to choose a new Master every four years.

Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org

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From: "Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reporting software and Relational Database
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:19:56 -0500

I'll give you a synopsis... but thats all..

Reporting software is just that.... it generates reports for or about
something. They come in two flavors. Software that reports on the status of
something, such as a report generator that reports and graphs the activity
on a web server, and 2: software that a human will use to generate a report
based on some other external data and entries of said data.

Relational database:  Imagine two databases: 1: Fruits 2: Transportation.
Then ask yourself, "hay, a banana... that goes in a fruits table, and a
truck doesn't. But a truck goes in a Transportation table". So now that this
is established, a query table can be used to determine and construct a query
and where to "Relate" it to, to get the actual data from--ie, which table
actually contains the requested data.
Its really a glorified database with a little bit more functionality than
did ole' dBase... IMHO...

<g>
jeff

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>I would like to know what two things are.  A Reporting Software and a
>Relational Database.  Can someone briefly explain them to me and how they
>are usually used in a business office with a network.  Thanks Rose
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: minicom
Date: 21 Jul 2000 12:05:06 GMT

Trevor Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ I've run minicom a couple of times, and I'm having trouble configuring it
[ properly.  At first, it told me that the administrator had to run minicom
[ -s, and so I did this.  I also have no problem running minicom as root.
[ But when I try to run it as a normal user, it says "/dev/modem permission
[ denied" or some other such error.

[ How can I set this up to run when I'm logged in as a normal user?
as root:
chmod 755 /dev/modem
if that doesn't work, replace 755 with 777
Try again as user
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jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: "Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Filesystem always reported as 100% full
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:28:54 -0500

I think I agree here too... It sounds like he's got a goofy inode to file
count issue thats causing him to run out of space...

Usually the defaults work for almost anyone. When you deviate from those
defaults, then you have to sit down and manually figure out what is going on
the drive, and how much space you need for it, then calculate this against
an inode count. As much as I'd like it to be, it's never an exact science
either.

As an example, one of the drives on my server at home is reserved exclusivly
for MP3 files. These things typically kill 5Meg on average (for me anyway-I
use 256bit ordering in the convert). So I was able to come up with a count
that set my clustering at 2k for this volume and it's been pretty efficient.

The other thing I noticed is that he didn't reserve a separate partition for
/var or /tmp... I probably would recommend that so you don't risk trashing
the root or it's files.

Cheers;
Jeff


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<_hEd5.7558$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) writes:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sam Jordan wrote:
>>>...
>>>filesystems. It's always 100% full (according to 'df'), regardless how
>>>many files are deleted. I'm sure that this must be an error, but I
>>>have absolutely no idea how to correct it. As far as I remember even
>>>running 'fsck' did not change anything. I am slowly getting troubles
>>>with different applications, for example some of my Java apps refuse
>>>to write to files anymore. Here is the output of 'df':
>>>
>>>Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>>/dev/hda3              3927769   3821206         0 100% /
>>>...
>
>Yes I had this exact same problem under SuSE 6.4 when I changed the default
>inode size (thinking I would get better performance).
>If all the inodes are used for a partition no matter what the size
>you will always get "partition full" messages.
>
>My solution was to revert the partition inodes size to the default(s) under
SuSE
>
>Cheers, Grahame
>--
>Webpage -> http://www.wildpossum.com
>Email -> grahame (AT) wildpossum (DOT) com
>Member SLUG (Sydney Linux User Group) www.slug.org.au
>



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From: Alberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux RamDisk - performance
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:30:03 GMT

Hi,

I am running a set of numerical simulations on a RH6.1 Linux machine with
256MB of ram (soon to be upgraded to 1GB).
I create a lot of temporary files and r/w hard disk operations are
extensive. All these files are deleted after they are used and do not need
to be saved. At each timestep I create ~50MB of files.

Is there a way I could created a ramdrive and use it as a temporary (fast)
storage? I am looking for performance since the r/w operations do slow down
my simulation quite a bit!

Thanks!

Alberto

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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting to my gui
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:40:18 +0300

Azsandorl wrote:

> I recently purchased Linux-Mandrake 7.1. The first time I started it up, 
I got
> into the gui (kde?), but from then on I have only been able to load to the
> console.  I want to do three things.  Load to the GUI, get to the GUI 
from the

Login as root. Launch linuxconf. Enter "Boot configuration" - "Mode " 
"default boot mode" . Change default boot mode to "Graphic & network".

To get to the GUI from the console , either "startx" ( without quotes) or 
"init 5"(without quotes).


> console. and have windows set in LILO as the one to start automatically 
instead
> of linux.

In the same "Boot configuration" - "LILO" - "default boot configuration" - 
change the selection to "Windows" or whatever it's called.
-- 
Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910


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From: Alex Chudnovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: audio on cdrom?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:44:00 +0300

Mary P wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:55:00 GMT, Potter Wickware
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >OK, so I've got Redhat 6 installed & running. Now how do I make the CD
> >player play music? I've used the mount -a command and the CDROM makes
> >the expected mechanical noises, and the CD player utility registers
> >tracks & play time, etc., but no music comes out. Sound card works fine
> >when the machine is booted on the win OS.
> 
> since nobody else has offered any suggestions, have you checked all the
> volume settings? There are 2 places in RH 5.2: xMixer and xPlayCD. Both
> have volume slide bars, and though I don't know why, I had
> to tweak them in both places.

Some CD-ROM drives have "internal" volume control, which affects the output 
to the sound card as well as autonomous headphone output.

> 
> Hope this helps,
> MP 
> 
> -- 
> "If there are any gods whose chief concern is man, they cannot be very
> important gods."
> --Arthur C. Clarke 
>     _
>    . .
>     V
>   // \\
>  //   \\
>   (W W)
-- 
Regards,
Alex Chudnovsky
e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 35559910


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From: "Jeffrey S. Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Random Power Shutdown
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:38:25 -0500

Make sure you turn OFF, the APMD daemon as this might cause a problem..  I'd
boot it up in single user mode and watch it run for awhile... ("linux 1"
when you get the lilo prompt.)  Or, make a bootable MSDOS disk and boot up
under this. Then, if the machine goes off, but the paripherie doesn't, then
you have either a bad power supply or a bad motherboard in the computer...

I don't believe you have an OS problem, I think you have the beginnings of a
hardware failure.

Not surprising either as GW's have been nice in that when they go bad...
THEY GO BAD. None of the middle of the road crap... Nice to fix.

My gut instinct is to do this and watch it. I bet you have a power supply
that is failing, and if it is, the PS's in them are rather generic enough
that you can shop around for a clone for it and probably get a heftier one
(>300w?)

Cheers;
Jeff


Patrick M Geahan wrote in message ...
>Gotta minor problem here I was hpoing someone could help me with.  I have
>a RH6.2 system running on a Gateway 2000 P200MMX system.  The system is
>configured with a Diamond Fireport 40 SCSI adapter, 1 4.5GB IBM SCSI
>drive, 32 MB RAM, a 4MB knockoff vid card, and 2 3COM 3c509 Ethernet
>cards.  The system's been mine since last November, running like a charm.
>
>Recently, however, it's been having this annoying little problem of
>randomyl shutting off.  At completely random times, the machine will power
>off, without going through shutdown process.  There is no information in
>the logs to tell me when this happens.  If I don't happen to be sitting
>right there when it happens, I have to guesstimate the shutdown time based
>on when the logs stop.
>
>I've had it happen during startup, while I'm logged in, and while I'm not
>home.  I've come up with several possible scenarios:
>
>1.  Power problems in my apartment.  POssibility, but unlikely - I have
>several other pieces of equipment plugged into the same outlet, and they
>have no trouble.
>
>2.  Problem with the power supply.  Distinct possibility.
>
>3.  Problem with a daemon that causes shutdown.  Doubtful, because the
>machine SHOULDN'T power off then. If I do a 'shutdown -h now, when
>shutdown is complete, it will shut itself off.   However, in terms of a
>system freeze or crash, I wouldn't think it would do so.
>
>4.  Problem with apmd(or other power management that causes the power
>supply to cycle off. I don't know enough about apmd to make a valid guess
>here.
>
>5.  SOme other random problem.
>
>Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Mainly, I'm looking to see if
>anyone has heard of this problem occuring with RH6.2.  If it's a hardware
>problem, which I'm investigating, I'll take my q somewhere else.  Has
>anyone heard of this behavior before?
>
>--
>
>-------Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3784715----------
>Quote of the Week: "'Do you want to take a look at my regular expressions
>?' is not a valid chat-up line" - Chris King in the Monastery.



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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for tape device
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:29:23 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  md <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to backup some files on tape
> but I don't know the device file. I tried
> /dev/tape, /dev/ftape, /dev/rmt* without success.

You haven't stated what kind of tape-device you have.  I'm assuming
floppy-tape (Ftape); check out the following:

  http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Ftape-HOWTO.html

--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: Howto run 2.4* kernel?
Date: 21 Jul 2000 13:59:19 +0100

David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>1) Grab the tarball from ftp.kernel.org.
>2) su to root
>3) Unpack it into a convinient directory, say /usr/src/linux-2.4.
>4) cd /usr/src/linux-2.4
>5) make xconfig (or menuconfig or just config)
>6) Choose your options.  Choose wisely.
>7) make bzImage
>8) make modules modules_install
>9) cp /boot/System.map /boot/System.map.bak
>10) cp System.map /boot/System.map
>[assuming Intel architecture here]
>11) cp /usr/src/linux-2.4/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4

Can't you just say "make install" for 9--11 ?

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: lee stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: off topic? linux based content management system
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 13:37:39 +0100

Hi Matt

not really a problem, yet? I actually already use PHP3/Mysql for
personal use but was hoping to get an off the shelf package for a client
that could help them get there faster. 

I am wary of getting a bespoke system built (upgrade, training, people,
etc. issues). My broad brush brief would look roughly as follows: 

I need a system that.....

Supports content provided in key industry standards e.g. Adobe
Photoshop, MS Word, Adobe Illustrator.
Allows editing and refining of content prior to publishing
Manages content publishing cycle via workflow system
Allows published content to be tracked and managed
Supports content publishing to a variety of devices (e.g. Web, e-mail,
PDA, print, wireless)
Allows integration of external news feeds via open standards (e.g. XML)
Supports mirroring of content across multiple servers
Allows personalisation of relevant content on a user by user basis.
Separates content preparation from delivery
Supports pay per view delivery of selected content
Supports industry leading web servers
Provides ease of use features such as cookie based logins
Allows profiling of user interests based on past activity
Provide user reporting and tracking facilities
Support for metadata tagging of content
Offers personalisation based on articles being viewed ("view similar")
Provides for automatic detection of client browser and tailors content
presentation to fit.

not to much to ask, is it? ;)

does anyone have any knowledge or experience of systems - pros and cons?

thanks

lee




Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> If you described your problem fully, someone could probably give a better
> answer.  However, if you're trying to serve dynamic HTML on a Linux box, a
> very good answer is "PHP".  It's free, fairly similar to Perl in its
> syntax, somewhat similar to ASP in how it integrates into HTML documents,
> and pretty easy to integrate into Apache; check http://php.net/ for a lot
> of information.
> 
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
>  \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: "Luke Th. Bullock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copying files without changing the timestamp?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:53:20 +0000

In article <8l9ab9$bmd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bernd Eggink
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thaddeus L Olczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How can you copy stuff from one folder to another without changing the
>> timestamp? I need this for two reasons:
>> 1) I want to backup and restore directories by hand ( specifically I
>> want to copy over the some directories by hand, reinstall linux from
>> scratch, then recopy those files, some of which are scm files so
>> timestamp is important ).
>> 2) I want to compile a large library on one computer ( which has a
>> large hd), then copy stuff over to other computers which  don't have as
>> much storage ( after i remove intermediate files and unneeded files
>> ). Part of this involves not mucking up the timestamp.
> 
> "cp -a" ior "cp -dpR" preserves as much attributes as
> possible, such as timestamp, owner, permissions etc.
> 
> Regards, Bernd
> 

or:
find <what> -print |cpio -pdv --preserve-modification-time <where>

/Luke

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