Linux-Misc Digest #208, Volume #20 Fri, 14 May 99 20:13:14 EDT
Contents:
tabs or spaces when editing files? ("donnell")
Re: Need a program to exercise/test the computer hardware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need to restore "normal" mono vga settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (NF Stevens)
Re: Has anyone got Panasonic 7502 CDR working under Linux? (Arcady Genkin)
XANIM and .avi files (Stephen Speicher)
Re: How can I back *everything* up? (marco tephlant)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(david parsons)
Re: Symbolic Link (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: user can't write to anything (Jon Skeet)
Re: Need to restore "normal" mono vga settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
LILO.CONF (Janine Roe)
Re: What is /sbin for? (Was: Proper use of /usr/local) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does Linux have IRQ's (Erik Akkermans)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does Linux have IRQ's (Erik Akkermans)
Energy Star Usage? (Jason Bond)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SCSI DAT freezes machine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: scsi card drivers. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
piping mp3s to cdrecord (Mark Roberts)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: turning off screen blanking ("KS")
Re: upgrading SUSE 5.2 to 6.1 (Frank Ball)
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From: "donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: tabs or spaces when editing files?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:53:12 -0700
new to linux running redhat 5.2 k2.0.36 on a i486
I have seen various references on using tabs instead of spaces when editing
files like hosts and syslog.conf can any one direct me to a reliable
reference on editing files like this?
thanks, Donnell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Need a program to exercise/test the computer hardware
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:23:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am looking for a test program that can be used to exercise, test &
> diagnose PC hardware, under Linux. This is for Intel based systems.
>
> Does anyone know of such a package?
You can use "memtest86" to test memory see:
http://www.supercomputer.org/Downloads/index.html
it is a self-booting program, i.e. you don't need an OS; it
can be installed as a lilo boot option.
Compiling the kernel should give your hardware and installation a
shake-out.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to restore "normal" mono vga settings
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:47:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's one you don't see everyday.
...
> few kills from a telnet session to SCREEN processes and now I've got a
> mess of a display. It's useable ... barely.
Have you tried "reset" at the command prompt. This works when you
cat a binary to stdout :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:32:37 GMT
Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>But these new computers, shipping with 8GB drives... I sometimes
>wonder how a new computer user, using Windows 98 only, could
>possibly use that much disk space?
It's easy to do with FAT. The minimum file allocation on a
drive that size is probably 128k.
Norman
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Subject: Re: Has anyone got Panasonic 7502 CDR working under Linux?
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:54:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) writes:
> > Is there any way to release the drive (reset the SCSI bus) without
> > restarting computer?
>
> cdrecord has an option for '-reset', though I've not used it.
Tried it. It didn't work. ;^(
--
Arcady Genkin
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From: Stephen Speicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XANIM and .avi files
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:06:59 GMT
I tried the xanim that came with RH5.2, and then tried the
latest version (2.80.0) that I downloaded from a website,
but both give me the following error:
----
XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights Reserved
comp 49563530 49563530 49563530
AVI Video Codec: Unknown IV50(49563530) is unsupported by this executable.(E18)
Can't Open /dev/dsp device
AVI Notice: No supported Video frames found.
----
Can anyone point me to a compiled version of xanim that will
support this IV50? Alternatively, is there another compiled
Linux program available for viewing .avi that I can try?
Stephen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Save the photons--don't look!
Printed using 100% recycled electrons.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (marco tephlant)
Subject: Re: How can I back *everything* up?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:11:04 +0100
In article <7hi47r$b8n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> What I did is put in an extra drive just for backups, and allocated a
> partition on it for a "rescue" installation of Linux, as well as a "work"
> partition to hold the backed-up data. Then at backup time I can boot up
> the rescue partition so I'm not backing up from a live filesystem, and I
> also have a good way to recover if either hard drive crashes. The same
> drive also backs up other machines via NFS and Samba.
>
> Also with hdparm you can get the extra drive to spin down after some
> period of inactivity, so for your normal work there's no extra noise
> or power consumption.
Makes sense, I think i've found the same solution really, using
tomsrtbt (a single floppy disk linux distribution) I mount the linux
drive and my vfat d: drive and tar&bzip2 the linux drive onto it.
Haven't done it yet but it should work like your method.
--
Marco
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 14 May 1999 13:14:05 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Peter> FreeBSD's more conservative and ordered approach used to
> Peter> make its slower than Linux, but I think that Linux's
> Peter> relative chaos is beginning to reverse this. It would be
> Peter> good for Linux to also start using a single CVS tree with a
> Peter> -current and -stable branch and a core team instead of a
> Peter> single individual that needs to approve everything.
>
>Well, I've been reading FreeBSD'ers predictions of linux's imminent
>demise for a year and a half. We seem to be progressing in the market
>while FBSD just hangs around where it's always been.
>
>Linux development is driven by user demand.
No; Linux kernel development is driven by the interests of the
Linux developers. If that coincides with user demand, so much the
better, but there are many sensible projects that have languished on
the vine (GGI and devfs come immediately to mind) because the core
team Just Doesn't Like Them.
The thing that Linux has going for it is that the kernel is
developed in isolation, so the vagaries of the core team are
restricted to the kernel. This is really important to people
like me who think that the various filesystem and distribution
standards are junk, and instead use stable old libraries and
reliable BSD code for userland apps.
I could probably extract the kernel from FreeBSD and stuff it
into Mastodon, but it looks like it'd be a pretty scary task.
The Linux kernel works, and isn't too dependent on GNU tool
rot, so it's a lot easier to work with.
____
david parsons \bi/ Driven by the interest of the users. Yeah, right.
\/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Symbolic Link
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:48:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Noseworthy wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I have created an anonymous ftp server on my link box (Box A). The home
>directory for anonymous ftp is /home/ftp.
>
>Within this directory I created a symbolic link to the /usr directory.
>After creating the link I tested it, and it seemed to be ok.
>
>When I ftp to Box A and log in as anonymous, I get an error to the
>extent "No such file or directory." An ls -l shows the link is there,
>but I just can't change to that directory.
[...]
Your ftp server does a chroot and so the link cannot work. Think about
it, it would be a security risk ... hole ... highway ...
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: user can't write to anything
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:09:42 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Recently my HD became full. I removed somethings and made some free
> space. But now only root can write to files, mk dirs, compile
> programs or even save bookmarks. Logged in as an user I get an error
> message that there is not enough space on the disk.
You probably haven't made *enough* free space. A certain amount of space
is reserved for root, for just such situations.
> And I notice
> right now that backspace doesn't work, it deletes forward just like
> delete does.
No idea about that...
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to restore "normal" mono vga settings
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:47:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's one you don't see everyday.
...
> few kills from a telnet session to SCREEN processes and now I've got a
> mess of a display. It's useable ... barely.
Have you tried "reset" at the command prompt. This works when you
cat a binary to stdout.
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From: Janine Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: LILO.CONF
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:49:07 -0400
Hi!
I am having some problems with booting into windows with lilo. Here's
my situation:
Orignally had one 4 gig hard drive partitioned with 1 gig for linux and
3 gig for windows95
Added a new 6 gig hard drive and moved windows95 to this drive.
Changed the old windows partition to linux native.:
Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 1 768 3096544+ 83 Linux native
#ORIGNALLY DOS-FAT32
/dev/hda2 769 769 781 52416 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 * 782 782 972 770112 83 Linux native
New drive info:
Disk /dev/hdb: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 839 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 1 420 3175168+ b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdb2 421 421 838 3160080 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 421 421 838 3160048+ b Win95 FAT32
I changed to lilo.conf file to read as follows:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
other=/dev/hdb1
label=win95
table=/dev/hdb
loader=/boot/chain.b
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35-1
label=linux
root=/dev/hda3
read-only
But at the lilo boot prompt I get an i/o error when I attempt to boot
into win95.
Additionally, when I changed the id from DOS to Linux native I got the
following message:
calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.
Re-read table failed with error 16:
Device or resource busy.
Re-boot your system to ensure the partition table is updated.
Also get I/O error dev 16:00, sector 0.
Do these errors have something to do with the inablility to boot with
lilo? Or is it a combination or errors?
I would really appreciate some help on what to do to fix this.....
Thanks,
J.R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is /sbin for? (Was: Proper use of /usr/local)
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:03:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.M. Paden) wrote:
> / -- the root directory
> |
> +-bin Essential command binaries
> +-boot Static files of the boot loader
> +-dev Device files
> +-etc Host-specific system configuration
> +-home User home directories
> +-lib Essential shared libraries and kernel modules
> +-mnt Mount point of temporary partitions
> +-opt Add-on application software packages
> +-root Home directory for the root user
> +-sbin Essential system binaries
> +-tmp Temporary files
> +-usr Secondary hierarchy
> +-var Variable data
>
> For more details on the file system do a search for :
>
> Filesystem Hierarchy Standard -- Version 2.0 (There may
> be a more recent version)
>
> Filesystem Hierarchy Standard Group
> edited by Daniel Quinlan
Woah! Where the hell did you come from? You just answered pretty much
every outstanding question in this thread.
Thanks! :)
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From: Erik Akkermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Does Linux have IRQ's
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:36:33 +0200
Al wrote:
>
> Does Linux have IRQ's?
Is Bill Cinton president of the USA?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:08:59 GMT
Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: %% [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: z> access through CVSUP, which makes keeping an upto date ports tree
: z> *trival*. So much so that many, myself included, simply stick the
: z> job in a cron tab:
:
: z> From my /etc/weekly.local:
: z> /usr/local/bin/cvsup -E -g -Z /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
:
: Unfortunately I don't have the disk space or 'Net bandwidth to download
: all the code, much less keep it.
Ports comes with the distribution and doesn't take up much space
at all:
$ du -sk /usr/ports
120309 /usr/ports
Since updates only download the *differences* (It's CVSup based) a
typical update uses *very* little bandwidth or time. It also
doens't need to be done as often as I do, but since I've got a full
time connection there isn't any reason for me not to.
: However, I agree it would be nice to have the option; you can obviously
: get the source for all Debian packages but it's not this trivial (it's not
: hard, though).
FYI, FreeBSD ports do not include the source code for the
distributions (patches yes, but the main source no).
Ports are wrappers around distributions, not the distributions
themself. They do however, know how to obtain the distributions
they need, either from CDROM or more commonly from the 'Net. Typing
"make install" will automatically fetch any needed distributions and
files if you don't have them already.
>snip<
: What would be great is if the Debian stuff was upgraded to allow a
: ports-like source code distribution mechanism, and/or ports was upgraded
: to provide prebuilt binaries as easily and slickly as Debian.
:
: Then we could have the best of both worlds!
Ports goes far beyond simply being a "source based" install system.
-Actually, many of the ports *are* binary installs such as Netscape.
If you don't like Ports however, FreeBSD also offers standard binary
packages.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: Erik Akkermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Does Linux have IRQ's
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:38:47 +0200
Erik Akkermans wrote:
>
> Al wrote:
> >
> > Does Linux have IRQ's?
>
> Is Bill Cinton president of the USA?
Of course that should be Bill Clinton in case you are wondering who the
hell is Bill Cinton...
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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Energy Star Usage?
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:16:05 -0700
Does anyone out there know how to use (or of any good programs that make
use of) the energy star features (If I'm talking about the right thing)
of monitors? What I'd like is for my monitor to power off (or go on
standby) after a specified amount of time (ack...like windows can
do...sorry for that)? Thanks much,
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:16:38 GMT
Doug DeJulio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: 2) Is it possible to make a "ports package" available without doing so
: through the central *BSD "Ports" repository? I really don't know the
: answer to this.
:
: If the answer to #2 is "no", then you *know* every single package
: installed via "Ports" comes from the central repository. You do not know
: this with RPM, and you do not know this with Debian.
Actually you can use ports piecemeal, and www.FreeBSD.org has all of
them available for download that way. In practice however (because
of dependencies, it's simply easier to keep an updated local tree.
-This is one of the pains of RPMs, rdist, and many other systems;
that you'll download one package only to find you need another.
Ports (and DEBs?) doesn't have this problem.
I should add however, that the ports tree does *not* need to be
complete. If you view the ports CVSUP file at:
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
You'll see the default is the "ports-all" collection. If you only
want part of the tree however, it is trivial to comment that out and
uncomment the other sub-collections you want. For instance, I don't
keep the astro, bio, chinese, mbone, etc ports collections because
I'd never have reason to install them myself. If I did though,
uncommenting them and running cvsup is trivial.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI DAT freezes machine
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:49:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone experienced this problem and figured out
what
> to do about it. It works fine for small backups (less than 3 MB), but
> after that, it will lock up at some point (between 3 and 60 MB) and I
> have to reboot. I am using an Adaptec 1520 SCSI card under RH 5.1
with
a
> Sony SDT-7000.
Just a guess, it may be a hardware problem. My experience is
that you can't kill the process used by a tape operation. Have
tried to open another virtual console to see any error messages.
I'd try hardware substitution in order to isolate the problem.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:35:07 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: Incorrect. In a packaging system you are downloading a precompiled
: package from a central location. If the individual author updates his
: product and changes the archive name that has no bearing on the packaged
: archive. That is why I asserted that the ports systems is inhierently
: fragile.
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles
Not to mention the fact that *very* few authors are fool enough to
instantly delete previous releases the second a new one is release.
Even if they do, the above URL fall back that is built into ever
port solves the problem.
Ports has more redundancy and consistency systems then you could
possibly fathom.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: scsi card drivers.
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:16:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
William Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for drivers for an old Emerald Systems EH/AT SCSI
controller.
>
> Does anyone know if these exist for linux or which drivers might
work?
Posting info on the chipset might trigger someone's memory.
Also, the SCSI-Howto is pretty dated and might be of some help.
Last but not least, try Dejanews' "Power Search", 'Linux & SCSI
& Emerald'.
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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: piping mp3s to cdrecord
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:13:39 -0500
I was wondering if anyone has come up with a solution to this problem I
am having with cdrecord. When I pipe raw audio from mpg123 to cdrecord,
with "mpg123 -s /mp3/foo_bar_album/*.mp3 | cdrecord -v dev=3,0 speed=4
-audio -" it will understandably produce only 1 track of audio as it
cannot differentiate the different audio tracks, it just sees a audio
stream. Has anyone found a way to do something similar to this while
preserving the different tracks?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:46:16 GMT
G. Sumner Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: official binary packages go through rather extensive regression testing
: and are more likely to perform correctly than something you build yourself
: locally _assuming_ that you are running the same setup as the packager.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's the problem now, isn't it? One port handles nearly every
version of FreeBSD, but one DEB/RPM/etc package can't even safely
handle more then one revision of one distribution of Linux that the
builder happened to be using when they built the package.
I'll take source installs any day of the week, thanks. This is how
it has been in Unix from day one and is a major factor in why Unix
systems are so strong.
: So for people running Debian slink, grabbing a binary from slink is
: probably more likely to work than is grabbing the source and rebuilding.
: Similarly for Red Hat 6.0.
Assuming (danger!), the above "same setup as the packager" problem.
Categorically, source installs are far, far more likely to work
correctly then binary installs.
: For me, ports would be a great thing.
www.FreeBSD.org You could be up and running minutes. :-)
: Unless you audit the source yourself, though, it's not a security issue.
When something does happen, having a verifiable copy of the exact
source used is invaluable.
: Even then, you normally get your first compiler from someone;
True, although you'd have to hack the FreeBSD CVS repository for
this to be an issue.
: Ports makes it a lot easier to upgrade the entire system from source. It
: can also reduce bandwidth requirements. But it increases demands on what
: you install on the local system and on use of local processor time. The
: Red Hat situation is far from ideal if you want to rebuild everything;
: it's slightly better than getting .tar.gz files, but not anywhere near as
: nice as ports.
Agreed.
: Ports is far from ideal for installing binaries.
Actually, many ports are binary based such as Netscape. There is
nothing that says a port has to call cc. Infact there isn't
anything that says a port has to install anything itself which is
the case of the meta-ports for GNOME and KDE that simply are lists
of dependencies to force the real collection of ports to install.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:51:27 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: That is my point though, the tree is, by design, out of date.
All package systems, Debian much included, are, by design, OUT OF
DATE.
: The last time I checked the ports tree FTPs the source directly from the
: author's site.
Yes, or a mirror, and freebsd.org if all else fails. It can also
fetch it from CDROM if you happen to have one.
: With a few thousand programs in the ports tree all it takes is one author
: to release a new version, change the name of his archive and the MD5 sum
: of said archive and you've got problems.
The old revision is nearly always kept around for some time, and if
it's not it will still live on freebsd.org. This "problem" doesn't
exist.
: Now whomever maintains the ports tree needs to notice that and fix it, by
: which time another package has changed, etc, etc. That may have changed
: recently, I'm not sure. But that has been my experience.
And this is different in <insert your fav package system here> how,
exactly?
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: "KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: turning off screen blanking
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:49:52 -0500
Description:
'How can I stop my screen from going blank when I am idle?
'
Solution:
' For the console, type (as root)
setterm -blank 0
setterm -store
for X, type (as root)
xset s off
and this should clear the problem for you.
This is a link to where I found the Red Hat answer
http://www.redhat.com/cgi-bin/support?solution&11-990500-0528&100-925000000&
14-7&15-5&25-&3-&30-
Kevin Stoops
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Tim Kelley wrote in message ...
>Where is this done? I'd like for my console to NOT turn off ... I can't
>find the setting for this ...
>
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>Tim Kelley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Ball)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: upgrading SUSE 5.2 to 6.1
Date: 14 May 1999 23:33:22 GMT
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On Thu, 13 May 1999 07:56:46 +0200, Gero H. Marten @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} Ramin Sina wrote:
} > Is it possible to upgrade SUSE directly from 5.2 to 6.1 or do I need to
} > do it one version at a time?
} It is possible. But because of the changed glibs I recommend doing a
} clean install of 6.1. To much can go wrong if you don't know what
} your doing. Of course backup all important files.
} Good luck.
I upgraded from 5.3 to 6.0 (which was the glib change) without problem.
Apache won't start at boot up (it starts fine later), but otherwise
everything is working.
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Frank Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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