Linux-Misc Digest #253, Volume #20 Tue, 18 May 99 19:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: NT the best web platform? (bz)
Re: Modem problems : new newsgroup required. ("RAMblur")
netscape + java (Daniel Kollar)
Re: PPP Madness (Jonathan Luckey)
Re: RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System ("Snoopy :-))")
Re: Strip libc
Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Johan Kullstam)
Re: well, what about Debian? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Sound Device Problm (David Goldstein)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Michel Aartsen)
Re: Some Common Questions (Hans Koch)
Re: Redhat 6 and Samba. smb start not loading during boot (Steve Smoogen)
Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone? ("Anthony J. Gabrielson")
possible to burn Mac Bootable with xcdroast? (William Schwartz)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
Faxing images (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (MJS)
Re: LILO docs available in PDF, Re: LS-120 ("Cameron Spitzer")
Re: Help with suid (David L. Bilbey)
Help with modprobe ("Brian Davis")
Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Jeffrey L Straszheim)
Help with Printing to a Win95 attached BJC 7004 Plus (Jack Madison)
Re: Help with suid (NF Stevens)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Erwin Lam)
Bandwidth.... (Arun Rao)
Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (Hans Wolters)
Re: GNU has the sweet smell of Freedom of expression (George MacDonald)
Re: old elvis mouse behavior lost? Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page (N. Richard Caldwell)
Re: Where is best location of swap partition on a disk? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: bz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:00:24 -0600
please.. no more benchmark crap. anyone can make a bechmark say
whatever you want. if you had statistics, you remember that. you
could even take ms stats and make them say whatever you want. the
reality is that you cannot count on ms.
a bit off topic.. i remember when all the managers at hertz believed
the hype that ms spewed and ditched their os400 machines for new $20k
PCs for servers. the short of that story is that they are back to
the old os400s. what a waste of time & money.
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From: "RAMblur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem problems : new newsgroup required.
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:05:41 -0400
M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Please note FollowUp-To: header]
>
> Jody Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >I have an idea. How about a HOWTO devoted to nothing but getting modems
> >configed in Linux.
>
> Good idea. Go for it - and count me in.
>
> >Or would that be to simple to correct this problem.
>
> Possibly, yes :))
>
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
> Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
> Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
There already is a HOWTO, at
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html and on the RedHat 6.0
CD-ROM (and download). It looked fairly informative to me.
~RAMblur
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From: Daniel Kollar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape + java
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:41:36 +0200
Since Redhat-6.0 Netscape crashes with a bus error when it tries to
start a java applet. This happens with the shipped version 4.51, but
also with the version 4.08 which worked without problems on my
redhat-5.2 system.
Does anyone know the problem?
--
Daniel Kollar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage http://www.riednet.wh.tu-darmstadt.de/~kollar
Student at University of Technology, Darmstadt, Germany
Studying electrical engineering, solid state electronics
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Luckey)
Subject: Re: PPP Madness
Date: 18 May 1999 17:00:41 -0400
"Michael Rathburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Please help I have a linux box and am a single user I have had a nightmare
>trying to sort out a connection to the internet and irc servers alike ive
>tried KDE desktop using kppp I have tried following PcPlus instructions I
>have used thier scripts done it manually and allsorts of wierd things have
>happened all I want to do is use my linux machine to learn about unix step
>by step but it seems you have to read more crap than a Philadelphia lawyer
>on a case with no precedent ! I conncect with minicom do the login and
>password bit then it says Async Interface address is unumbered header
>compression will match your system then I close minicom without a reset then
>everytime after about 10 seconds it drops the carrier, Is this so only elite
>sys admins and hackers are suppose to use unix ?.I have bought 2 books and
>it seems you have to read the lot on networking before you begin to use the
>internet .
When you stop minicom, you are starting up pppd by yourself, aren't
you?
Back when I was playing around, I used to log in to my shell account
and start up SLiRP (a ppp emulator), then suspend minicom( control-A,J I
think), then type on the command line
pppd </dev/modem >/dev/modem
But that was long ago, and I think they are hiding pppd somewhere
off the path these days.
You might be happier with the 'dip' command. Start with the script
in the man page for it. Edit it for your login, then you can run
it with
dip -v script.dip
And you can watch it execute.
You are using it with a kernel that has ppp support, aren't you?
perhaps you might need to load ppp support as a module, by add
a line with 'ppp' to your /etc/modules file.
-- Jon Luckey
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From: "Snoopy :-))" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: RedHat Linux 5.2 Deluxe Operating System
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:06:57 -0400
In the future You should not "Cross-Post" to so many groups, because you're
asking to be Flamed.
My advice to you is; to go on the Web and get some of the FREE Tutorial,
etc.., as well as; some good books. They could make your Linux experiment
more enjoyable and sucessful.
For the time being:
Just to Show You what a Nice Guy I am :-))
I am giving you Three(3) of my other Favorite Links. They can keep you out
of
trouble and will keep you busy for quite a while.
The Tutorial & Guide is probobly one of the Best Begginer Guide in the World
( written by Matt Welsh etc. He is also one of the authors of the Highly
Recommended Book = "Running Linux"). You can download the whole Guide for
Offline Reading in many different
Formats -- (I prefer the HTML) In addition you will find many other
Goodies. Here it is: http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/
There is another site which I highly recommend. "Eric Raymond's" home page.
If you are wondering who he is? In that case you are a Newbie for sure. But
I can assure you, that spending a little time at his page will definatelly
put a fire under you regarding not wanting to be a Newbie for to long.
Ofcourse you will also discover the reason as to why he is so admired by
those who Count, and why he is considered to be One of the Top Gurus in the
World.
His FAQ Collection should definatelly be considered as a Bible for
Newbies!!!!! Here is the Link: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/
I recently run into an other very interesting and Important Web Site Lots of
FREE Goodies!!!
Check it out: http://home.att.net/~aubreyb
HTML, CSS & other " How To " Tutorial Links, Graphics,Colors,
Linux, Emoticons,Acronyms,Modem Info, Sites For Kids, Magazines On Line,
Etc.. Etc...
So Enjoy :-))
Best regards
Snoopy :-)) :-))
Andrew Meyer wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am a newbie to the Linux/unix envrionment and interested in becoming more
>knowledgeable. But lately for some reason whenenver I install a copy of
>RedHat's Linux 5.2 Deluxe OS during the install it wants me to specify the
>types of drives or something like that for the partitions. If you know
>anything about this then please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are
>the specific drive names? Also what is the command for mounting a CDROM
>drive? and is there any GUI copmression utlility for Linux that is similar
>to Winzip or Aladdin? And please if you could help me with the C source
>code compiling it would mean a great deal to me!!!
>
>Thanks
>Andrew Meyer
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strip libc
Date: 17 May 1999 22:30:57 GMT
So libc5 is stripped and libc6 is not. Dose this mean
libc5 does not have symbol information for the debugger?
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Date: 18 May 1999 12:58:32 -0400
Robert Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now to get back to the subject of man pages - they are not meant to be a
> substitute for your Chemical Engineering manual, but a *technical*
> manual about IT. In that context, I repeat that a good *technical*
> manual will leave the examples to the User's Guide
fine. however i seem to be lacking in user-guide pages.
$ user ls
bash: user: command not found.
if you are going to insist on segregating out examples from the man
pages, let's at least find them a better home for them than /dev/null.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: well, what about Debian?
Date: 18 May 1999 13:01:28 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) writes:
> On Fri, 14 May 1999 23:54:33 GMT,
> Quoc A. Vu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I'm thinking about using the Debian distribution. Any thought on it?
>
> Yeah, binary packages suck. RPM or dpkg, forget it. If you're serious
> about a particular package (eg. web server, Perl, etc.), get the source
> and compile it.
this is a red herring. i've had decent luck with .src.rpm packages.
debian has source packages too.
--
johan kullstam
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Device Problm
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:40:19 +0200
Jason Bond wrote:
>
> I'm trying to install a mp3 player and when I try and run a mp3 file it
> says
>
> Error opening output device (mpg123 reported:"Can't open /dev/dsp!")
>
> Cd's seem to play fine on my system. Which device is used to play
> sound? Is there some permissions problem that I'm having? Thanks
> kindly,
>
> Jason
Playing a music CD is not the same thing. The CD player hooks up
directly to your sound card with a cable. It is strictly for playing
your favorite music while having fun with Linux. To get the sound card
working under Linux, you must recompile your kernel for sound support
and supply some parameters. You did not specify which sound card you
are using, but it is probably an option somewhere. Read the docs on
setting up sound cards under Linux.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel Aartsen)
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 18 May 1999 21:01:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 May 1999 00:17:29 +0200, Thomer M. Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>
>Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
>95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
>
>The Vi Lovers Home Page:
>http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
>
>The Vi Lovers Home Page contains much Vi related info and links to:
>- Many downloadable Vi versions for a large range of operating systems,
>- Vi FAQs,
>- Tutorials,
>- FTP sites,
>- jokes and the like,
>- and much more.
>
>The Vi Lovers Home Page:
>http://www.cs.vu.nl/~tmgil/vi/vi.html
Emacs Suckz !!
5 MB for a text editor..... I don't think so.
Michel
Who uses GVIM at work and at home.
--
MicroSoft :
More Intelligent Customers Realise Our
Software is Only for Fools and Teenagers.
'Navy says : Stop the war. I need to reboot NT'
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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,intel.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Some Common Questions
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:59 -0500
>Netscape - how to get rid of the "bookmarks changed on disk" window
that
>seems to keep coming up every few minutes?
There might be another netscape process running (started earlier).
In that case, exit from nestscape, kill the other process,
and start netscape again.
- Hans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Smoogen)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6 and Samba. smb start not loading during boot
Date: 18 May 1999 17:06:28 GMT
As has been pointed out by others, you can use the ntsysv command to
turn on that service for the current run level. If you wish to turn on
smb for multiple levels I would use chkconfig
chkconfig --level 35 smb on
Should turn on smb. Then I would check the following as they have
changed from previous versions of Samba.
1) The configuration files in /etc/smb
2) Errors that might be outputed to /var/log/boot.msg and
/var/log/messages on what could be happening if smb is erroring out
on startup.
On Tue, 18 May 1999 15:05:57 GMT, Gary Quiring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running RedHat 6 and Samba is not loading during boot. The smb file
>is in /etc/rc.d/init.d. What is the proper file that controls what modules
>load during boot?
>
>Gary Q
>
--
SJS -- Red Hat Technical Support
[Please be aware I cannot always answer email directly emailed at me. I
try to answer on the news groups for more people to see the information
and correct me if I am wrong :)]
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From: "Anthony J. Gabrielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 anyone?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:54:34 -0400
You can always get one of those $1.89 specials when they come out if you
don't want to either spend $35 or download the portions you need.
Anthony
On Mon, 17 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there anyone willing to lend me their SuSE CDs to make a copy? I
> purchased version 5.3, but I would like to upgrade. Of course I will pay
> shipping. I live in Pennsylvania.
>
> Thanks,
> bf
>
>
> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
>
>
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From: William Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: possible to burn Mac Bootable with xcdroast?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:49:34 -0500
Is it possible to burn Mac Bootable CD's with xcdroast/cdrecord?
thanks,
Bill
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 19 May 1999 00:02:53 +0200
George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mr Barry P Macmahon wrote:
> >
> > A little aside from the previous discussion. I have always been taught
> > that for every freedom one takes advantage of, you infringe on someone
> > elses freedom.
>
> I think you are confusing freedom with resources. If you are in a
> world of constrained resources, then you will only ever be able to
> aquire a certain percentage(unless you eliminate all others).
>
> How does my freedom to bear arms in any way limit your freedom to do
> likewise?
Not at all. It however limits my freedom in failing reasonably safe
when on the street because I know that millions of idiots get handed
over loaded weapons at a drool. Having an own weapon in ones pocket
is only so much of a consolation if somebody puts a bullet into you
from behind.
No honest person has a chance to make any use of a weapon he might be
carrying if a hoodlum chooses to attack him with a weapon. The
hoodlum will not stand there as an open target and start the process
by warning the other person. The honest person has no option to shoot
potential hoodlums unawares. For that reason, the general easy
availability in bearing arms is heavily disparaging honest people.
--
David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Faxing images
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:23:43 +0100
I have look around and found faxing confusing. Efax seems to be
setup and I can send faxes with fax send. I can convert txt docs with
fax make to some ?? format which fax understands and new doc gets made
with an .001 extension which is then suitable for faxing. I get error
messges when I try to fax make a jpg or gif. The error is the doc is
not a txt document.
The doc says I can send postscript documents but I'm not sure if
thats exactly what I want. What I want is to send some doc on a company
letterhead that has a drawing like something made up in Word or an Excel
document. Is that possible and if so can you point me to doc about how
to do that. My doc seems to say I can send ps docs but I don't know
anything about postscript.
SW is RH 5.2
efax is 0.8a-7
For any responses please copy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks David Kirkpatrick
PS>I also looked at Hylafax but it did not like my fonts.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MJS)
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:14:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 May 1999 00:17:29 +0200, "Thomer M. Gil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page. Vi is *the* editor under Unix, Windows
>95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
Ik zie dat je bij de Church of Emacs al in de ban bent gedaan. VI
staat daar voor Vile Incarnation.
http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO docs available in PDF, Re: LS-120
Date: 18 May 1999 21:59:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Dynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Rex Basham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
>> >boot=/dev/hda1
>> >timeout=100
>> >prompt
>> >image=/vmlinuz-2.2.8
>> > label=linux
>> > root=/dev/hda1
>> > initrd=/initrd.img
>>
>> This file is missing an install= command to tell it what boot sector
>> to use, and a map= command to tell it to write the mapfile on the
>> LS-120's file system.
>
>man lilo.conf:
> install=boot-sector
> Install the specified file as the new boot sector.
> If `install' is omitted, /boot/boot.b is used as
> the default.
>
>I suppose "install=/ls120/boot/boot.b" would be useful if /boot/boot.b
>doesn't exist.
Right, the location from where /sbin/lilo reads the boot sector
has a useful default, but the location to where /sbin/lilo
writes the map file is probably wrong in this case
and dangerous in general. Lilo is not smart enough to put
the map file on /ls120 on its own.
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with suid
Date: 18 May 1999 21:53:34 GMT
+-----On Tue, 18 May 1999 21:21:55 GMT, NF Stevens spoke unto us:----------
| >I also have another problem: I can't mount the floppy as a user.
| >
| >The message I get is somewhere along the lines of:
| > mount: only root can mount
| >
| Look at the options for /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab. Use "man fstab"
| to find out what the various options are. Basically you want
| something like
| /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat rw,noauto,user 0 0
Thanks. I'll check that out when I get home.
david
--
"Basically, this is the way the economy works: I do a service for you,
and you pay me, even if you claim you didn't want the service and that I
`ruined' something of yours." --Jack Handey
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From: "Brian Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Help with modprobe
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:07:17 -0400
Hi,
Is there anyway to get modprobe to ignore kernel version problems like
insmod can when you use the -f flag (insmod -f)?
Thanks,
Brian
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From: Jeffrey L Straszheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP with Resume feature?
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:05:32 -0400
Bruce Schultz wrote:
> Try ncftp. It is very likely already installed on your system.
Yeah, I didn't even know it supported it for some time. When I
would have a bombed connection, before I restarted the get, I
would always rm the partials in the local directory, as I didn't
want to confuse the program. Boy was I pleasantly surprised on
the day I forgot to do that.
--
--Jeffrey Straszheim
---Systems Engineer, Programmer
----stimuli AT shadow DOT net
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From: Jack Madison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Printing to a Win95 attached BJC 7004 Plus
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:19:04 GMT
I am trying to print from my linux box to a Canon BJC 7004 plus on a
win95 box (SMB printer). I am running RedHat 5.2, and have installed
two upgraded versions of ghostscript (5.50 at the moment). From what I
have read it sounds like the BJC800 driver might work correctly, but
printtool does NOT list it. :( Selecting a different Canon driver,
BJC600/4000, from printtool does cause it to print.... But only uses
the top left 1/4 the page, and print quality sucks. Output from gs -h
does show bjc800 in the available devices, but as I mentioned above, not
in printtool for any of the ghostscript installs.
TIA,
Jack
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Help with suid
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:21:55 GMT
David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>I also have another problem: I can't mount the floppy as a user. Here is
>my setup:
> /dev/fd0 is rwxrw---- owned by root(actually it might be owned by the
> user that I'm talking about...I don't know how that happened either) and
> group floppy
>
> /mnt/floppy is rwxrwxrwx
> /bin/mount is rwsr-xr-x
>
>The message I get is somewhere along the lines of:
> mount: only root can mount
>
Look at the options for /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab. Use "man fstab"
to find out what the various options are. Basically you want
something like
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat rw,noauto,user 0 0
Norman
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From: Erwin Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:26:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roland Smith wrote:
>
> "Thomer M. Gil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.
> > Vi is *the* editor under Unix,
> > Windows 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
>
> Tijd voor de jaarlijkse emacs - vi flamewar :)
>
> EMACS RULES!
XEmacs rules!!! Emacs is crap.
--
Erwin Lam ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Arun Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Bandwidth....
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:54:42 -0700
Hi
I have been experiencing bandwith problems on my dialup connection
lately. I am running RH5.2 with 2.2.9 upgrade and ppp 2.3.8.
My problem is i can only do one thing at a time like say download ,ftp
etc. Anything else like say a telnet ,netscape else gets slow. I have
been using linux for a year now. this happened when i reinstalled redhat
5.2 after a small mishap partitioning (long story). So this current
install with the latest kernel and ppp version doesn't seem to help.
I checked the /var/log/messages file previously I would have only the
pppd started local ip and stuff. But now i get tons of innd, identd and
named messages. I don't think i got those before. I'm not sure whether
those are routine messages. I read news, telnet and browse the web.
I connect at 28800 -45333 bps most of the times.
I'm not sure if it is my system or the isp. How do i check if my system
has a misconfiguration problem.
All help would be appreciated.
Arun.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 18 May 1999 22:24:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the following ....
>"Thomer M. Gil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Please visit the Vi Lovers Home Page.
>> Vi is *the* editor under Unix,
>> Windows 95/98/NT and many other operating systems.
>
>Tijd voor de jaarlijkse emacs - vi flamewar :)
>
>EMACS RULES!
>
>Roland (die nu z'n asbest ondergoed uit de kast haalt ;)
People wouldn't know what that means Roland. (Asbest(os) underwear?;)
Emacs could be nice but is to big and Vi gives me the idea of working with
an older version of Word Perfect (where is that <ALT/SHIT/F3/F4/CTRLX>
shortcut for ..............................
Regards Hans
--
22 Linux Search Engines in one applet
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU has the sweet smell of Freedom of expression
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:32:47 GMT
W.A. Scheer wrote:
>
> These threads are STILL going around? For the record, I watched Eric Raymond at
> LinuxWorld in San Jose hold court with some members of the press for about an hour.
> One of the media-hacks asked about the 'communist' nature of open-source. Eric gave
> what I thought was one of the most lucid defenses of free market economics I've ever
> heard! Every Marxist/Communist system usually STARTS with the destruction of private
> property and free markets ~ Open Source pushes no such agenda!
>
It always amazes me how the "free" press, i.e. the one we pay for on
a regular basis, likes to slam freedom of expression by individuals.
Especially when it threatens their commercial interests. It's almost
like they are saying:
The only VALID opinion is one you pay for.
Likewise the only valid software is what you pay for.
I suggest you all go home and pay your loved ones for their attention!
--
We stand on the shoulders of those giants who coded before.
Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
Code well and live! - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (7th Coding Battalion)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N. Richard Caldwell)
Subject: Re: old elvis mouse behavior lost? Re: The Vi Lovers Home Page
Date: 18 May 1999 18:36:03 GMT
In article <7hqjp4$cre$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cameron Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I see "mouse support" in vim's feature list, but it seems
>equally dependent on X. Am I reading it wrong?
>Has the greatest vi extension ever been sacrificed to pretty GUIs?
>Is there any modern vi clone that uses the mouse in an xterm
>the way elvis-1.8 did?
VIM is supposed to be able to use mouse support with an Xterm.
Within VIM try ":help mouse" for details.
It appears to work but I haven't used it enough to say that it
works correctly. As a longtime vi user I still haven't
figured why you would want to move your hand that far from
the home keys. :>
--
N. Richard Caldwell
Lucent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Where is best location of swap partition on a disk?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:50:43 GMT
In article <7he0o3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Hucka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>>>> On 12 May 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > jarobinson> Cyl 0 (where the label is) starts on the outside.
>
> Yes, except for CD-ROMs (and I guess DVD too).
>
> --
> Andrew Gabriel
> Consultant Software Engineer
>
>
True, then again, I thought a CD-ROM was all one big track ...
Jeff R.
PS I guess you can use cd-rw for swap, there may be a performance
penality.....
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