Linux-Misc Digest #288, Volume #20 Fri, 21 May 99 09:13:20 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Edward_hill)
BEA TUXEDO now on Linux - Free Eval ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Mr S A Penny)
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Chris Wilson)
3Com 3c900TPO & OpenLinux 1.3????? (GRuB)
TTF fonts under Linux ("Tomas FRYDRYCH")
Re: Samba_2.0 NT4_SP3 and Linux SuSE6.1 (Mark McCoy)
libttf.so.2 -- where to find (Richard j. Freedman)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Realplayer G2 (Carl Fink)
Re: PPP tantrums ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
RedHat 6.0 -- how to compile for RH5? (Larry Gritz)
Re: Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!! (Mark Forsyth)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Pan)
Re: SETI comparisons ("Oliver D. Bedford")
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Ralph Wesseling)
Which version of Linux is best? (a 406 Hepcat)
Re: KPPP stops KDE working ("Piers B.")
Re: TTF fonts under Linux ("D. Vrabel")
Re: ? loopback: ping `hostname` (Bernd Eckenfels)
Re: LinuxHQ disappeared? ("D. Vrabel")
Ghostscript install fails: Xt missing (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Carrer Yuri)
Re: Linux mp3 players for car and home (Byron A Jeff)
Re: newbie question...plz answer~ (Lew Pitcher)
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From: Edward_hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:57:09 +0100
Mr S A Penny wrote:
: >At the risk of being percieved as unhelpful: "RTFJF".
:
: erm, what does RTFJF mean? I know RTFM but I can't think what a JF
might be...
Erm Read The Fine Jargon File?
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BEA TUXEDO now on Linux - Free Eval
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:12:54 GMT
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(There's also a special gift for every 20th person that registers).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: 21 May 1999 10:44:00 GMT
In article <bA4OvJA$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve D. Perkins
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>> Well, despite being won over by the sheer spangliness of Gnome...
>> Out of curiosity, what does "spangliness" mean?!?
>
>At the risk of being percieved as unhelpful: "RTFJF".
erm, what does RTFJF mean? I know RTFM but I can't think what a JF might be...
TIA
SammyTheSnake
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From: Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:54:52 +0100
Mr S A Penny wrote:
> >At the risk of being percieved as unhelpful: "RTFJF".
> erm, what does RTFJF mean? I know RTFM but I can't think what a JF might be...
The Jargon File -- it's all explain therein! ;-)
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Dougal: 2.2.5 Up: 26 days 9:28 eth0 Tx: 482MiB
Carol says 871 == 50 * 5 * (1 / 2 + 3) - 4
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From: GRuB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com 3c900TPO & OpenLinux 1.3?????
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:29:25 +0100
Dear All,
I'm a recent convert to Linux, and a smuch as I like OpenLinux 1.3, I'm
having real trouble getting it to accept my new 3c900TPO/PCI ethernet
card. I tried using the ne2000 module setup, and it wouldn't let me
without further instructions - but I don't know what they are.....any
advice?
Thanks in advance
Graham
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From: "Tomas FRYDRYCH" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:59:10 +0000
Subject: TTF fonts under Linux
Is it possible to use Windows TTF fonts on Linux? I am keen to
leave the Windows platform, but I have tones of documents that
use specialised ttf fonts, for which I am certain that I will not be
able to get replacements. Is there any way that Win fonts can be
used on Linux?
(If you reply to this message, I would appreciate if you send a copy
to the human readable address in the author header. Thanks.)
Tomas
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From: Mark McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: Samba_2.0 NT4_SP3 and Linux SuSE6.1
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:14:17 -0500
Matt wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just configured SuSE 6.1 with the updated
> samba.rpm. The NT box can see Linux and can logon
> to the Linux box using NT4 SP3 (using the active
> descktop).
>
> However when I attempt to copy a file to Linux
> from NT I get a permissions error. I have
> added full permissions to the user on NT.
>
> even with the option of
>
> security=share or security=user in the smb.conf
>
> If I attempt to change the permissions on NT
> just in case (to ckeck the permissions)
> I get an active desktop explorer error exception.
> The active desktop then reverts to the recovery
> desktop.
>
> I can copy files from Linux to the NT directory
> but not the other way (NT to Linux).
>
> Is there another problem in samba, or is there
> another setting in the smb.conf that I have
> missed ?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Matt
does the user have _Unix_ write permissions to the directory??
Even if Samba gives read/write permission to a SMB user, the user account on the
Linux box must have write access to the directory.
For example, if I export /usr/local/projects as a read/write share "proj" (in
smb.conf), and fictitious user "larryb" (in the fictitious group "programmers")
mounts that share, he can only write to the directory if the directory looks
like any of these (ls -ld /usr/local/projects):
drwxr-xr-x 3 larryb root .............. projects
drwxrwxr-x 3 root programmers ............. projects
drwxrwxrwx 3 root root ............. projects
(of course 777 permissions are dangerous, so no follow-ups explaining that
please)
larryb can not write there if the permissions look like this:
drwxr-xr-x 3 root othergroup ............. projects
since he is not in the group that owns the directory, even though samba tells NT
that this is a read/write share.
--
Mark McCoy -- Proud to run Linux since February 1996
Systems Administrator - Cajun Brothers Technology, llc
The views in this message do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer
This message posted from snowdog, a 100% MS-free machine.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard j. Freedman)
Subject: libttf.so.2 -- where to find
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:37 GMT
I am trying to install enlightenment-0.15.5-32 and rpm says that it needs
libttf.so.2 (amoung other things). I have resolved all the dependencies
except for the subject lib. Unfortunately, I have no luck finding libttf ---
does anyone know which package contains it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:45:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 20 May 1999 15:07:06 -0400...
..and Michael David Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> >It was the 20 May 1999 16:33:18 +0200...
> >..and David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> >> > It was the Wed, 19 May 1999 17:51:51 -0500...
> >> > ..and Kenneth P. Turvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > [schnibble]
> >> > > Now how did we get from operating systems to gun control?
> >> > Every thread degenerates into either an Emacs-vs.-vi debate or a gun
> >> > control flamewar after a finite amount of time.
> >> To which of those alternatives would Godwin's law apply?
> >Gun control advocates always bring up the Nazis after some time.
Plus con je meurs... (I love France.)
> It's the other way round, actually. It's the gun advocates who
> typically trot out the "Nazis had gun control" myth.
Uh oh... that's what I wanted to say. Please cut the word "control"
out. I wanted to say "gun advocates"... After all, I'm a gun control
advocate myself.
mawa
--
If a man is uneducated, he may steal a freight car. If he has a
college education, he can steal the whole railroad!
-- David Johnson, NPR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Realplayer G2
Date: 21 May 1999 18:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is anyone else having sound problems? I'm using that most standard
of sound cards, the SB16, but the sound is absurdly distorted and
useless. It seems to me that the lowest volume setting is so high
it's overloading my (headphone) speakers.
Anyone else getting overloud sound?
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP tantrums
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:10:07 +0400
> Guys,
Thanks a lot for the advice. Problem solved!As what you have said
"noipdefault" was just
the medicine.
>
>
> Ferdinand
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
>
> See no Microsoft.
> Hear no Microsoft.
> Speak no Microsoft.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Gritz)
Subject: RedHat 6.0 -- how to compile for RH5?
Date: 20 May 1999 20:47:11 GMT
Title says it all. When I installed, it asked if I wanted some
sort of compatibility libraries so that I could compile on my RH 6.0
system and have people with RH 5.0 still run my binaries. I said
yes, of course.
Now that I'm done with the install, I have no idea how to instruct
the compiler to make sure binaries will run on the old OS.
Anybody know?
-- lg
--
Larry Gritz Pixar Animation Studios
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Richmond, CA
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From: Mark Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!!
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:56:46 +1000
IIRC Compaq OpenVMS, Compaq UNIX are what you can boot ainto on a 1000a.
The error you are seeing is shat happens when the firmware finds
something
it's unaware of. maybe there is a firmware upgrade to get you going
but I somehow doubt it.
Good luck.
Mark F...
P.S. If you can't get it going I'll have it for OpenVMS...:)
"Anthony J. Gabrielson" wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm not sure the solution to your problem - I have an alpha
> though. Try switching your boot mode to Dec Unix - it should be a few
> options deep in setup for AlphaBIOS. However I have never worked with you
> machine so I'm not sure. You could also try posting this in the alpha
> linux news group - Its low traffic and most everybody there is very sharp.
>
> Anthony
>
> On 20 May 1999, Patrick LOGE wrote:
>
> > Booting AlphaServer 1000A 4/266 HELP!!
> > First, as you will see in the following message,
> > it is the FIRST time I try to boot Linux on an Aplha :)
> >
> > How to boot this machine?
> >
> > I've tried to go though de AlphaBIOS to insert LINUX
> > as a bootable OS.
> >
> > I'v make a floppy with linload an a milo from the CD.
> >
> > The machine start to boot with Linux but stopped to
> > "swapping ..PALCode..0x80000" or something like that.
> >
> > I've been told that it was a wrong milo, and that it was no
> > milo at all for the AlphaServer 1000A 4/266...
> >
> > Lot of poeple talk about about SRM consol (???) where do I find this...
> >
> > I heard about "noritake" file what should I do with this???
> >
> > So, it the mess :((((((((
> >
> > ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> > http://www.searchlinux.com
> >
> >
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From: Pan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:25:51 -0700
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> >Unfortunately, they do. Your chance of death by shooting in the
> >U.S. is about a factor of 5 higher than in comparable countries with
> >gun control. The school shootings are just an insignificant top of
> >the iceberg.
>
> *bzzt* wrong answer, thank you for playing.
> The claim was, that having a gun, would be of little or no use for defence
> because the thug has the drop on you. Of course, as the poster you are
> replying to pointed out, the statistics do not bear this claim out.
> Your answer was entirely irrelevent to this claim. But Ill shoot it
> down anyway.
>
> A) There are no comparable countries to the US, this is one thing that
> makes comparisons difficult at least.
American children aged 14 and younger are 16 times more likely to be
killed by firearms than are children in
25 other industrialized nations averaged together, according to the
Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention.
There is nothing difficult about making that comparison.
>
> The US are not a homogenized society. We are very much
> a mix of cultures and people, and much social friction
> results from this.
Data indicate that murder is most often intraracial among
victims and offenders. In 1997, data based on incidents
involving one victim and one offender show that 94 percent of
85 percent of white murder victims were killed by white
offenders. (Crime in the United States, Uniform Crime Reports, 1997, p.
16. Washington, DC:
U.S. Department of Justice.)
Even factoring for "social friction" due to race and ethnicity, the
murder rate in the United States is many
times that of other first world nations.
> B) Even within these United States, the homicide rate varies greatly
> from state to state, and county/city to county or city.
> Allmost all of them saw a drop
> greater than the drop in the non-carry states
"The surge in violent crime in the Nation over the past decade
correspond with a significant rise in the usage of firearms by the
criminal population." (section V, 1995
UCR, opening paragraph)
Percent Change in the use of weapon types in murders from 1985 versus
1994
Knives and cutting instruments -25.6%
Firearms + 46.3%
> . (you did
> know that out homicide rate is dropping, while that of
> many western European's is rising, didn't you?)
In 1996, according to the uniform crime report, the rate of murder and
non-negligent manslaughter, last year
was 7.4 per 100,000. In 1997, it was 6.8 per 100,000. That is on order
of 4-7 times the murder rate in any
other first world country. Though the rates of murder and non-negligent
manslaughter have dropped since
1994, they were still significantly higher (per capita) in 1997 than
they were in 1985.
> C) Of the homicides in the US, gun related or other, the vast
> majority of the perpetrators are violent criminals with
> long records, why are they out? most of them have served
> time for crimes past. Many are out on parole or other
> early release. The "average" Joe, just isn't a murderer.
Where data on relationships between murderer and victim has been
established, roughly 75% of all murder
victims knew their killer.
25% of them were related. Guns make it very easy to kill someone in a
rash act.
> over 1 billion rounds of ammo fired in the US annually, <1500
> accidental deaths.
20000 people were killed in the US by firearms last year.
That number is roughly the equivalent to the population of an average
sized state university.
Given where I live and work (westside Los angeles and downtown L.A.) My
reality is that I worry a great deal
more about getting killed as an accidental victim in a drive by shooting
than I worry about needing a gun in
case the second american revolution happens tomorrow. Owning a gun is
not protection against being killed
in a drive by.
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:25:36 +0200
Chris Mauritz wrote:
> prompt%~/setiathome-1.1.i686-pc-linux-gnu-gnulibc2.1>$ ./setiathome
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
I had the same problem (on a different configuration). Downloading the
i386 glibc1 tarball helped.
Oliver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralph Wesseling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:11:32 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sven the hairy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is linux inferior in its handling of multiple processors than other OSs?
> Somebody at work trashed linux in this area, but I couldn't object to his
> comments because I don't know much about multi-processor systems. Is he full
> of S**t?
>
I believ that the new 2.2 kernel has improved support over 2.0. I don't
really notice the improvement on my dual celeron 400 system. But that
maybe becuase I haven't done much with it yet, and now that I have placed
anTNT2 in their I can't even use half the programs I normally would as I
can't start up X.
R
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a 406 Hepcat)
Crossposted-To: be.comp.os.linux;,alt.os.linux;
Subject: Which version of Linux is best?
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:27:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm a prosepective Lunux user and a multimedia (mainly pro-audio)
producer and engineer. I'm using BeOS, but I'm also interested in
Linux to (almost) completely relplace my Windoze systems. There are
plenty of commercial versions of Linux out there to choose from (Red
Hat, Open Linux, etc.), but which one is the best for what I want. Are
the only differences the GUIs, or do they go deeper. I'm expecting a
lot of responses to this, so don't let me down.
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From: "Piers B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KPPP stops KDE working
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:19:51 +1000
KDE-1.1.1 is much more stable than KDE-1.1.0 on a 2.2.x kernel. I just wish
I could install it on RH6 instead of the basic version of KDE they supplied
with the distribution.
Oh well.
Piers B.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TTF fonts under Linux
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:34:33 +0100
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Tomas FRYDRYCH wrote:
> Is it possible to use Windows TTF fonts on Linux? I am keen to
> leave the Windows platform, but I have tones of documents that
> use specialised ttf fonts, for which I am certain that I will not be
> able to get replacements. Is there any way that Win fonts can be
> used on Linux?
You can get true type font servers for X.
See
http://www.freetype.org/
for more information on ttf support in general.
> (If you reply to this message, I would appreciate if you send a copy
> to the human readable address in the author header. Thanks.)
You must be joking. Who's going to go through all that trouble? If you
want emailed replies have a valid reply-to address.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ? loopback: ping `hostname`
Date: 21 May 1999 00:56:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Ferdinand V. Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback
>> 172.16.1.1 slackbox
Eighetr add slackbox to the 127.0.0.1 line as the first entry or you add an
dummy interface (modprobe dummy ; ifconfig dummy slackbox up ; route add
-host slackbox dev dummy)
Greetings
Bernd
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: LinuxHQ disappeared?
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:40:34 +0100
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Johannes Rest wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've noticed that one of my favourite web-links isn't available
> any more: www.linuxhq.com. I've used this link to track
> the kernel versions 2.2.x and now I do not know where
> I can find the current development resources/kernel versions.
> What happened to LinuxHQ? Is there any comparable site
> with the high quality information LinuxHQ provided?
It's moved to http://www.kernelnotes.org/
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ghostscript install fails: Xt missing
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:05:01 GMT
I tried to install Ghostscript 5.10. The 'make' goes awhile, then
says : 'Xt : no such file'.
I found in a discussion somewhere, that the package 'xlib6g-dev' is
needed. But... my system is RedHat 5, and I found this 'xlib6g-dev'
in .deb form only...
Does it exist in RPM, too, or should I convert it from .deb to .rpm ?
If _convert_ is the answer, then how to convert ?
Is it really needed for the original problem : 'Xt: No such file' ?
I would greatly thank for a good installation instruction for
Ghostscript... Which comes with the package is a bit complicated...
Thanks for any help...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carrer Yuri)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 21 May 1999 03:49:17 +0200
In article <7hvi1f$b2v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Benoit Goudreault-Emond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Ghost In
>The Machine wrote:
>> On 19 May 1999 02:47:28 GMT,
>>
>> Hmm..this gets ugly. Of course, Apache may not cache static web
>> content (read: files), but the operating system may well do so
>> (Linux, in particular, has a built-in file cache; RAM that would
>> otherwise be unsed is actually doing something useful -- and it's
>> far quicker to fetch a file into RAM when it's already *in* RAM,
>> after all :-) ).
>
>Then again, NT caches files as well, so the OS cache should be about
>equivalent. However, the webserver knows better what to cache (or so one
>would think), so it might reserve away memory that would be used for caching
>some other stuff. IIS does that, AFAIK, but Apache doesn't. Hence my
>comment.
An OS doen't cache a "file", but inodes :) The web cache don't look if
the file has changed on the disk :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: Linux mp3 players for car and home
Date: 21 May 1999 07:27:00 -0400
In article <z6513.19659$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-On 20 May 1999 06:32:59 GMT, brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->On Thu, 20 May 1999 03:09:17 GMT,
-> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->> Frankly, this looks to me to be a good application for an "embedded"
->> system.
->
->Yeah, but trying to find vendors willing to sell embedded boards in
->onesies and twosies is tough.
->
->They all seem happy to sell me 500 of them, but I just want one.
-
-True.
And as you point out below that the cost is prohibative.
-
->> The handheld players (e.g. - Diamond Rio) are slick designs with minimal
->> moving parts.
->
->And a pitiful amount of storage. :)
-
-I expect that this will be remedied fairly quickly; there seems to be a
-new Rio in the "pipeline" that doubles from 32MB to 64MB, which looks to
-be enough for a couple hours of music.
That wasn't my objective. I plan to buy a Rio for my excercise music player.
It's a perfect fit: small, not subject to skipping, lightweight.
But it doesn't work for either the car or home MP3. My objective with both
of those is to create a system that houses all the music I have. One of the
biggest problems I have is CDs scattered in multiple soft and jewel cases
throughout the vehicle. The second is having to swap CDs. The third is playlist
management.
The MP3 player should solve all of these because all of the music is encoded
on one spot, and the interface should allow for the creation and management of
extended playlists. I should be able to pick something generic like "Saxophones"
or "Ballads" and get hours of non-repeated music in that category.
-
-Bigger improvements will likely result if interest in the technology
-continues (e.g. - "big business music" fails in attempts to squelch
-MP3).
Well it's a genie out of the bottle and as much as the music industry hates it
it agreed in the Home Recording Act that duplicating music that one has
purchased for personal use isn't an offense. So one can make MP3's all day
long. It's criminal to disribute them however. And I agree with the music
industry there, because most of their profit is made in distribution.
->> Tossing in a hard drive and a full-scale PC motherboard seems to me to
->> be a grave diminishing of system reliability.
->>
->> I guess it's cool to have "Linux-Controlled Automotive Systems," but I'd
->> personally rather pay $400 for an in-dash unit...
->
->Well, my application is for home use, so a hard drive won't hurt
->reliability too much. It's a much better environment than the jostling
->and temperature extremes of a car. :)
-
-I guess I got confused by the subject line...
It's actually both now. I changed the subject line to reflect that.
I plan to do both. The home player doesn't have some of the issues that
the car player does, adding power to the environmental issues listed above.
However most normal MB allow for battoning down the CPU and RAM. Hard disks
are rated for operation in high vibrational/shock environments. Caching is
wonderful too. I have a minivan and plan to put the unit in the cabin with
people. So while temperature is an issue during idle periods, the unit would
be subject to the same conditions as the occupants during actual operation.
But it does beg the question of how reliable PC type systems are in widely
changing temp environments.
-
->Embedded controllers have a lot of advantages, like more sane power
->requirements and a much smaller footprint. A good chunk of motherboard
->real estate is spent on the ISA and PCI slots, which are really not
->needed for this application, and it's easy to find boards with sound and
->even ethernet and LCD driver already there.
->
->But finding a vendor is a lot harder.
-
-Indeed.
-
-<ULINK URL="http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/">LCDproc</ULINK> is one
-option for LCDs; I think that LinuxCentral also sells LCD displays. It
-looks like this sort of thing costs about as much as a motherboard.
True. I plan to build one myself instead of buying. Almost all of these
simply have a PIC microcontroller as an intelligent serial/parallel interface
to the LCD.
In short embedded systems are probably better but the prohibative costs for
whatever reason makes it an impossibility for me. I plan to integrate
standard components with custom interfaces to power, LCD, and case.
BTW I found a DC/DC converter at Jameco (www.jameco.com) that delivers 5V@4A
and +/- 12V@250ma. Could that be enough to drive MB/CPU/RAM? I figure that
a separate supply would be required for the 12V to the disk.
BAJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: newbie question...plz answer~
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:41:51 GMT
Read the man page on init (man init) and inittab (man 5 inittab).
init is the process that controls (among other things) the startup
sequence. It reads the contents of /etc/inittab (which is a text
file, described by man 5 inittab), and performs the actions described
therein. You can think of /etc/inittab as the equivalent of
AUTOEXEC.BAT, with it's lines being either commands to execute
directly, or the names of other script files to execute.
>From there, you graduate to /etc/rc.d/* where the startup scripts
are kept.
On Fri, 21 May 1999 12:06:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(pikachu73) wrote:
>herro...
>
>Me use dos til now... switched to linux a few weeks back. Like it very
>much. Have even managed to get sound going and upgrade kernel to
>2.2.9.... kinda proud of myself and kinda pissed cuz i had to read so
>many docs, mans, faqs, howtos, user's guides and newsgroups to get
>pppd, kernel, sound going.
>
>Enjoying self mutilation as I do, i am trying to change the boot
>sequence of my OS now.
>
>Like in dos... all i gotta do is change the config.sys and
>autoexec.bat files... and in win i can just edit the registry but I
>have no idea which files linux goes through at boot
>
>could anyone plz tell me the which files linux reads and in which
>order?
>
>thx in advance
>
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Development Services
Toronto Dominion Bank
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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