Linux-Misc Digest #288, Volume #25               Sun, 30 Jul 00 20:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  delete/backup questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Which IDE linux C programers use? (David Rysdam)
  Re: Dual NICs of same type? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Dual NICs of same type? (Robert Heller)
  I/O question ("Steve Riskus")
  Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise ("chief")
  Re: Download rate diminishes ("L.M. Dizon")
  KDE, Gnome 1.2 and any version of Debian? (Jerome Mrozak)
  Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Hosed install.  Techs messed up.  Moving /usr? (smlynarczyk)
  Re: Settine passwords from a script (David Rysdam)
  Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users. ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: Install of New Kernel ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: I/O question ("Steve Riskus")
  Re: SSH2: Authentication fails (David Steuber)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd,comp.unix.bsd.net
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:52:32 -0400

"m.hoes" wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> Currently, I am trying to learn Unix on my PC. However, I am not sure which
> Unix flavour I should choose for learning this OS?

It doesnt' matter.  All of the essential parts are the same.

Let's rephrase your question.

Currently, I am trying to learn to eat ice cream out of a cone.
However, I am not sure which ice cream flavor I should choose for
for learning this method.

The only thing I would avoid is AIX, since it is unix in name only.
[the configuration in the /etc directory are not only renamed, but
their internal structure is completely incompatible with all other
flavors of Unix].


> 
> The main purpose is to learn as much of Unix as possible, without spending
> (too much) money. Although I simply do not have the kind of cash to go buy a
> RS/6000 and get a license for AIX, getting a semi-free thing like Solaris 8
> for i86 (+/- $75 dollar) is no problem either.

Get Linux.  For $75, you're going to have an equivalent OS, AND a
ton of applications as well.



> 
> I know there is no such thing as a "One Unix", and that there a lot of
> differences between Unix versions, especially when it comes to
> Administration. AIX uses smit, HP-UX (i believe) sysadm, and I wouldnt be
> surprised if RedHat actually came with a script named 'setup' for its
> general administration ;)
> Still I would prefer to get a Unix version which is as 'generic' and
> 'true-to-unix' as possible.
> 
> 'User-friendly-ness' is something which is not important. Although a lot of

User-friendliness doesn't exist anywhere....ony familiarity.


> the current linux-distributions come with nifty setup tools like linuxconf,
> they do not actually assist in learning the OS. To illustrate my point: the
> latest RedHat release easily lets you select  a printer and everything runs
> ok, but (ages ago) Slackware 3.0 actually forced you to hack the printcap
> file to print even simple ascii files. While not very user-friendly, it DID
> teach me someting about *nix printing mechanisms.
> 
> Hardware support is also not important. As long as it runs on Intel it is
> ok, never mind my Voodoo card or USB port.
> 
> Good documentation would be nice though ;)
> 
> So what to choose? I have been told that Debian Linux and FreeBSD come
> pretty close to 'generic' and true unix implementations? Am I better off
> staying away from SCO Unix cause its so Intel focused its almost got a
> Autoexec.Bat startup file? Leave Solaris alone cause everything you learn on
> Solaris is only valid in the land of the SUN?
> 
> Please let me know what you think, point me to web-pages which might assit
> me, or redirect this message to /dev/null.
> 
> Any and all suggestions are more than welcome.
> 
> Thanks.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: delete/backup questions
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:14:07 GMT

Hi, I have two questions about the way Linux handles file deletion.

First, is this the correct process?  The inode of the file has its
deletion time set to the current time, and its link count set to 0.
Then the directory has the entry corresponding to that file wiped from
it.  Thus, there is *no* information left about the filename or
directory location of the deleted file (even if the file data is still
there).  If there are still hard links to the file, then the link count
is decremented by 1, but the deletion time is not set.

Second, would this work as a crude backup measure?  Hardlink your
valuable data somewhere else on the same partition.  Then, if you
mistakenly delete data, the files are still there in your backup
directory, and no copying/moving was done during the deletion process.
To recover, make a hard link again in your original directory.  Of
course, this wouldn't help against hardware crashes, or wiping the
entire drive out.

I would be very grateful for any information about recovering file
names (as you might guess, my interest is not totally abstract).

Thanks,

Janak


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which IDE linux C programers use?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 16:47:59 -0400

Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> etc.  *Some* programmers use GnuEmacs or XEmacs -- both of these have
> syntax highlighting and 'electric C' modes.  There is also an interface

How do I turn this on in gnu emacs?

-- 
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Dual NICs of same type?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:32:46 GMT

David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Manfred Bartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> ' David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ' 
> ' > Will two 3Com 3C905B-TX type PCI NICs play nicely together in a single
> ' > Linux box, or should I get another type of NIC for eth1?
> ' 
> ' I have two 3C905B in my firewall and never encountered a problem.
> ' 
> ' The only minor problem I can see is that you may have to figure out
> ' which one is which by either trial and error or by looking at the MAC
> ' (hardware) addresses.  And, if you unplug eth0, eth1 becomes eth0....
> ' But those issues are there even if you have different NICs.
> 
> Cool.  Thanks, guys.  I guess I'll order that second NIC then.

linux has no problems with two identical NICs.

windows (9[58] flavors at least), on the other hands, does have a
problem.  both cards get set up from the driver.  when you go to
configure them, you get presented with two copies of what looks like
the same thing.  windows gives you no way to tell them apart.  hence
you can't configure the things without a lot of pain.  it's more of
user interface mistake than anything else.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual NICs of same type?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:46:09 GMT

  David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:59:59 GMT, wrote :

DS> Will two 3Com 3C905B-TX type PCI NICs play nicely together in a single
DS> Linux box, or should I get another type of NIC for eth1?

Yes, two 3Com 3C905B-TXs will work together in one box.  The only
trickieness is determining which is eth0 and which is eth1 when the
machine boots up. There is discussion about just this and related
issues in the Linux EtherNet howto.  You may need to fiddle with lilo
parameters ("append eth0=...,eth1=...") and/or parameter settings in
/etc/conf.modules (options eth0 ...., options eth1 ...), look at section
3.2: "Using More than one Ethernet Card per Machine" -- this section
also refers to an online document:
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/misc/multicard.html, which is a
mini-howto about using Multiple Ethercards.

DS> 
DS> I have a PPro that I use as a router with a 10bt card for my DSL modem
DS> and a 100bt card to my hub (I wish it was a switch).  These work
DS> well.  My new computer is PCI only, just about.  I would like another
DS> 100bt PCI NIC so that I have IPForwarding/Masquerading capability
DS> before I take the machine to my ISP.  The reason for this is that I
DS> don't want to consume more than one IP address should I add additional
DS> machines.  The machines hanging off of the second NIC can use private
DS> IP addresses like I use in my home network.

Yes, this will work.

DS> 
DS> -- 
DS> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
DS> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
DS> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hoplite&submit=Look+it+up
DS> 
DS> The problem with AI is that it has a mind of its own
DS>     --- Devon Miller
DS>                                                    






                            
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From: "Steve Riskus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I/O question
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:27:19 -0400

im trying to configure sound on a linux box but i do not understand how to
figure out the I/O address of the sound card. Any help?





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From: "chief" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Windows geek has some linux questions, please advise
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:54:33 -0700

 thanks guys, that was an amazing response! there was one question about
what a download manager is...if your modem connection is cut off during a
download, the manager will reconnect for you and start the download where it
left off.

thanks again

chief


"blowfish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> chief wrote:
> >
> > have some requirements for a project which i am considering doing in
linux,
> > if possible. are the following features supported in most distributions?
> >
> > must be text based...
> >
> > ftp client
> > dial-up client (to ISP and direct comm with the server)
> > dial-up server
> > scheduling command that will launch programs at specified time/date
> > download manager like GetRight
> > encrypting/decrypting program
> > mp3 player with playlists, random, no repeat
> > a built-in scripting ability like DOS
> >
> > if available, can you recommend the best distribution to run on, and
best
> > app? if i have to program some stuff myself, what is the easiest
language to
> > use?
> >
> > can you also recommend the best modem and sound card for that distrib?
also,
> > is anyone aware of linux support for small LCD screens?
> >
> > it's alot of questions i know, but any help would be greatly
appreciated.
> > thanks
> >
> > chief
>
> SuSE 6.x.  You have a big decision of what NOT to install. It comes in 6
> CDs or a DVD packed full of goodies. From developing languages like C,
> C++, Python, Perl, etc. to all the mp3 / midi/ audio/video
> editing/broadcasting tools, servers and almost everything you can
> imagine under the sun in the computer world.
>
> And almost everything works by default with SuSE without any fuzz or
> messing around.
>
> The VERY BEST Linux distro in my book.
>
> blowfish.
> --
> - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> hands,
>   lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
> time.
>   Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).



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From: "L.M. Dizon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Download rate diminishes
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:45:34 +0200


Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "L.M. Dizon" wrote:
> >
> > Any idea why when I download a file or surf the internet, the download
rate
> > just goes keeps on diminishing until the modem "stalls"? I use an
Optiflex
> > Speedcom 2000 56k modem and I get the following information when I use
the
> > command setserial:
> >
>
> I had a similar problem in Linux until I changed my PPP device
> setting to point to /dev/ttyS0 instead of /dev/modem.   Don't ask me
> why that would matter since /dev/modem is pointing to /dev/ttyS0
> unless it was just coincidence....  Something to try though if you
> have it pointing to /dev/modem.


The modem still stalls regularly when I point the PPP device to /dev/ttySO
instead of /dev/modem.



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From: Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: KDE, Gnome 1.2 and any version of Debian?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:09:39 -0500

I'm wandering through distros and looking at Debian 2.2, which I believe
is potato.  I'd like to set up and use KDE and/or Gnome 1.2.  

1)  Will I have any trouble downloading and installing KDE stuff, such
as their 1.9x or eventual 2.0 series, into a Debian installation?  I'm
wondering if "non-free" politics will get in my way technically.

2)  The Helix Gnome site has an installer that wants me to use Debian
woody, which is apparently beyond potato, which itself hasn't been fully
officially released.  Will I get Gnome 1.2 on potato?  And if I don't,
will I have any problem getting Gnome 1.2 for Debian?

Some of you may snicker at me (ok,  snicker now...times up) but I'm used
to CD installs for my currently non-internet-connected laptop and
(sometimes) desktop.  I've an ISDN connection (external 3Com Impact IQ)
and haven't yet figured out how to connect it (where is an ISDN HOWTO?).
But mostly I'm a Java developer wanting some MS-Windows freedom and
pretty early in my experiences.

TIA,
Jerome.

-- 
Jerome Mrozak          "Never buy a dog and bark for yourself"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]     --"Slippery" Jim DiGriz
                         (the Stainless Steel Rat)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd,comp.unix.bsd.net
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: 30 Jul 2000 23:15:02 GMT

In <8m1hck$r49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "m.hoes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]The main purpose is to learn as much of Unix as possible, without spending
](too much) money. Although I simply do not have the kind of cash to go buy a
]RS/6000 and get a license for AIX, getting a semi-free thing like Solaris 8
]for i86 (+/- $75 dollar) is no problem either.

]I know there is no such thing as a "One Unix", and that there a lot of
]differences between Unix versions, especially when it comes to
]Administration. AIX uses smit, HP-UX (i believe) sysadm, and I wouldnt be
]surprised if RedHat actually came with a script named 'setup' for its
]general administration ;)
]Still I would prefer to get a Unix version which is as 'generic' and
]'true-to-unix' as possible.

Uh, there is none. ATT owns the trademark for Unix, so I suppose you had
better get their unix. (Not that I would advise it.) 

There is a vast difference also between "unix" and the accoutrements
which come with various distributions. All fo those "administration"
programs are layers on top of the OS to make administration "easy".
Everything they do can also be done on the command line as well. 
The improtant thing is to get one and use it. Once you know how to use
it, the rest will come easily.
Since Linux distros are free, get say Redhat or Mandrake and play with
them for a while. Try to do things from teh command line, not via the X
programs. 



]'User-friendly-ness' is something which is not important. Although a lot of
]the current linux-distributions come with nifty setup tools like linuxconf,
]they do not actually assist in learning the OS. To illustrate my point: the
]latest RedHat release easily lets you select  a printer and everything runs
]ok, but (ages ago) Slackware 3.0 actually forced you to hack the printcap
]file to print even simple ascii files. While not very user-friendly, it DID
]teach me someting about *nix printing mechanisms.

So you have used REdhat and Slackware? They you "know" unix. 

]Hardware support is also not important. As long as it runs on Intel it is
]ok, never mind my Voodoo card or USB port.

]Good documentation would be nice though ;)

Well, Linux comes with a few hundreds of megabytes of HOWTO and
mini-HOWTO and man and doc files. Whether that is "good " ducumentation
is another matter. 



]So what to choose? I have been told that Debian Linux and FreeBSD come
]pretty close to 'generic' and true unix implementations? Am I better off
]staying away from SCO Unix cause its so Intel focused its almost got a
]Autoexec.Bat startup file? Leave Solaris alone cause everything you learn on
]Solaris is only valid in the land of the SUN?

They are all much of a muchness as far as your purposes are concerned--
they all have their peculiarities and similarities. Just get and use
one. The rest ( though frustrating at times) will all be similar ( and
different). Get a popular version. (eg Solaris or Redhat/Mandrake) so
that you have a large base of machines wich actually run those OS. 



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From: smlynarczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Hosed install.  Techs messed up.  Moving /usr?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:14:22 -0500

Not clear what you mean by "changing directory names from inside Gnome /
properties".  One thought however is to look at using symbolic links to
redirect directories to the new linux partition.  For example, if you
want directory "/usr/local/pete" to use space in the new  partition,
create a directory in the new Linux partition (for instance
/newpartition/pete) and then do the following:


ln -s /newpartition/pete /usr/local/pete

The above assumes that prior to executing the ln command, the
/usr/local/pete directory does not yet exist.  If you already have a lot
of data in /usr/local/pete, rename the direcotory temporarily
(/usr/loca/pete.old for example) and perform the ln command.  Then, you
can copy back all the files/directories in pete.old to the new pete. 
One way to do this is to cd to /usr/local/pete.old and execute the
following:

find . -print | cpio -pdumv /usr/local/pete

At this point, all file access to /usr/local/pete is actually to the
newly created partition. The above is an old remedy used by
administrators when file systems run out of space.





Michael Coulter wrote:
> 
> I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
> cost a ton.
> And they really goofed up with druid.
> 
> They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
> "grow".  It turns out that is only at
> install time, not during normal run conditions.
> 
> I found out the hard way.  Loading Staroffice
> 
> So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
> it first as /home
> because /home is easier and I can do that.
> (I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
> 
> I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
> and gnome and
> then I cannot change the names of  /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
> 
> How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> This it taking way too long.

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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Settine passwords from a script
Date: 30 Jul 2000 18:25:08 -0400

Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

This won't work.  I'm not sure what actually goes wrong, but it just
won't go.  You'll have to use "expect" to make this work.  I've done
it and it's not hard.  Search for "expect and passwd" and you'll
probably find several references to it.

> #------- start of screen dump
> root@robertlnx::/root/$ passwd smith < pass.in
> New UNIX password: BAD PASSWORD: it is too simplistic/systematic
> Retype new UNIX password:
> New UNIX password:
> New UNIX password:
> passwd: Conversation error
> #------- end of screen dump
> 
> Note: "pass.in" is the name of a simple text file with content (new password
> and retype of it) like:
> pa55wo78
> pa55wo78
> 
> I will appreciate it very much if anyone can point out what's wrong here or
> any other way to automate a password changing ?
> 

-- 
My public encryption key is available from www.keyserver.net

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd,comp.unix.bsd.net
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:44:26 -0400

Bill Unruh wrote:
> 
> In <8m1hck$r49$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "m.hoes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> ]The main purpose is to learn as much of Unix as possible, without spending
> ](too much) money. Although I simply do not have the kind of cash to go buy a
> ]RS/6000 and get a license for AIX, getting a semi-free thing like Solaris 8
> ]for i86 (+/- $75 dollar) is no problem either.
> 
> ]I know there is no such thing as a "One Unix", and that there a lot of
> ]differences between Unix versions, especially when it comes to
> ]Administration. AIX uses smit, HP-UX (i believe) sysadm, and I wouldnt be
> ]surprised if RedHat actually came with a script named 'setup' for its
> ]general administration ;)
> ]Still I would prefer to get a Unix version which is as 'generic' and
> ]'true-to-unix' as possible.
> 
> Uh, there is none. ATT owns the trademark for Unix, so I suppose you had
> better get their unix. (Not that I would advise it.)

Nope.  ATT sold the name years ago.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I feel bad for RH/Mandrake users.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:50:46 -0500


Greetings,

    I thought that I would share this little piece of news with you
all, as I could not believe it myself.  I am a Slackware user, and
recently decided to try Mandrake 7.1.  I have noticed some bugs
but this one is just too much:

[anm@hawk ~] file /etc/passwd
/etc/passwd: ASCII test

ASCII test?  I mean really.  This, to me, is indicative of the haphazard
way in which RH/Mandrake is thrown together.  There are of course other
bugs, too numerous to mention here....  This is very dissappointing, as
one would think that they test thier RPMs before distributing them.
Sadly, I guess this is not the case, and I am now reminded why I like
Slackware (or Debian) so much.  Attention to detail.

[ Thank you for listening to my rant! ]

Regards,

anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install of New Kernel
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:56:41 -0500

On 30 Jul 2000, Dances With Crows quoth:

$$ On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:54:31 GMT, wizard2 wrote:
$$ >Everything goes well untill i go and try to compile   I do  bzImage
$$ >and have tried zImage   It runs the compile fine untill the end where
$$ >i get a msg that it is leaving usr/src/linux/i386/boot/    it says it
$$ >cannt find something like (AS86)  and gives me 2 error codes   127 and
$$ 
$$ There's a package on your Mandrake CD called "dev86-something-.rpm".
$$ Install that package.
$$ 
$$ As an aside, why in seven hells doesn't the kernel source package depend
$$ on this package?  Since you need as86 to build a kernel, shouldn't the
$$ kernel source require the presence of as86?

Because Mandrake does not pay attention to detail.

Cheers,

anm
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From: "Steve Riskus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I/O question
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:02:07 -0400

Its a ensoniq sounscape vivo wav table card or something like that.. I am
using Caldera...



"Steve Riskus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:FY1h5.5590$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> im trying to configure sound on a linux box but i do not understand how to
> figure out the I/O address of the sound card. Any help?
>
>
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Subject: Re: SSH2: Authentication fails
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:00:13 GMT

David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' I am trying out SSH v 2.0.  I set up sshd2 to be run from inetd as
' there seemed no need for it to run as a seperate deamon.  I've been
' trying to get another machine to use ssh2 to logon to the first
' machine using the ssh2 protocol, but I seem to be doing something
' wrong.  Does anyone have a simple procedure for setting up the keys
' and whatnot once SSH has been compiled?

It's actually version 2.2.0.  I've read the quick start and the faq.
No help for my problem.  It should work but doesn't:

david@solo:> ssh apostrophe
warning: Development-time debugging not compiled in.
warning: To enable, configure with --enable-debug and recompile.
debug: connecting to apostrophe...
debug: entering event loop
debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol
debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:1097/ssh_client_wrap: creating userauth protocol
warning: Authentication failed.
debug: Ssh2/ssh2.c:76/client_disconnect: locally_generated = TRUE
Disconnected; connection lost (Connection closed by remote host.).
debug: uninitializing event loop 

In /etc/inetd.conf:

#
# SSH Secure Login Deamon
#
ssh     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/local/sbin/sshd2 -i
ssh     dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/local/sbin/sshd2 -i

david@apostrophe:~ > ls .ssh2/
authorization      id_dsa_1024_a.pub  random_seed
id_dsa_1024_a      identification     solo.pub  

david@solo:> ls .ssh2/
id_dsa_1024_a      identification     ssh2_config
id_dsa_1024_a.pub  random_seed 

solo.pub == id_dsa_1024_a.pub

This is driving me nuts!

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