Linux-Misc Digest #298, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 00:13:07 EDT
Contents:
^S in microemacs freezes xterm (David Bishop)
Re: SETI comparisons ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
XFree86 with Trident and Viewsonic ("C Davis")
Is /etc/localtime causing a seg fault with glibc? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Binary of XFree86 3.3.3.1 (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test ("Gnork")
MP3's Play To Fast ("Derek Schmidt")
Re: SETI comparisons (Rod Smith)
Word Perfect (Jeff Busch)
Re: Getting Started with Linux (garv)
MySQL v3.22.22 compiled perfectly on my Redhat 6.0 box :-) ("test")
Unable to handle page fault (Bob Tennent)
Re: Bash Question ("JACK")
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Steve Lamb)
Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP (Paul Harris)
Re: Linux or linux? (Enkidu)
Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Paul Harris)
Re: Linux killer for SuSe 6.1 (NF Stevens)
Re: Linux or linux? (David Stanaway)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux / MySQL 3.22.22 RPMs specifically for Redhat 6.0 (Glibc-2.1 /
kernel 2.2) ("Daniel W. Burke")
Re: Word Perfect (Fred Kuipers)
Re: netscape + java (Rich Piotrowski)
Re: Linux or linux? (eloki)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SETI comparisons ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: David Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.editors,comp.emacs
Subject: ^S in microemacs freezes xterm
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:53:13 -0500
I am running microemacs (http://members.xoom.com/uemacs/) in
an xterm on linux. When I use ^S to search or ^X^S to save to
disk, the xterm freezes until I issue ^Q to continue.
The documentation says that microemacs does not change the
flow control of the terminal. What modification do I need to
do so that these commands actually work as intended. Do I need
to somehow disable the ^S (stop) in the xterm with some "stty"
command, or do I need to modify the microemacs source code???
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: 22 May 1999 01:51:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
RS>In article <7i2vgb$7k6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
RS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>>
>> JG>My guess'd be that it's a difference in compilers and/or optimisation that's
>> JG>causing the big discrepency as opposed to just the OS's themselves.
>>
>> Take a look at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/oss.html. It shows that
>Win95 users
>> are getting an average of 42 hours compared to 30 for NT, 23 for Mac and 14 for
>linux.
>> Presumably the same compiler was used for 95 and NT (its the same download link).
>It would
>> seem to indicate that Win95 cooperative multitasking generally falls far short in
>performance
>> when compared with pre-emptive multitasking on NT.
RS>I don't think the results on the above-referenced web site are a terribly
RS>meaningful comparison, since there's no information on the CPUs involved.
RS>20 CPU hours on a 400MHz Pentium-II is very different from 20 CPU hours on
RS>a 16MHz 386.
In that case let's look at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/platforms.html
1) Pentium/Windows 40 hr 18 min 09.5 sec
5) i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1 16 hr 36 min 44.9 sec
Assuming (1) includes both 95 and NT (2/3 are 95) running on various flavors of
Pentium and (2)
runs on everyting from 386 to PIII (although there are i686 optimized versions for
linux). Can we
then use this along with postings in the thread to reach the inevitable conclusion?
RS>Which machine is likely to have a faster CPU, one running
RS>Win95 or one running WinNT?
This ain't necessarily so. Where I work, individual desktops running mostly 95 are
generally more
current than servers that run NT. This is due to frequent upgrades of desktops.
OTOH, 4CPU
PPro/200 with 1MB cache may really be faster than PII/400.
RS>That said, the postings in this thread DO tend to include CPU information,
RS>and these do tend to indicate that the Windows version of the program is
RS>much less efficient than the Linux version. I agree with JG that this is
RS>most likely due to compiler differences, or perhaps to extra code in the
RS>Windows executables (I've not seen them in action, but the description is
RS>that these function as screen savers, which would probably chew a few CPU
RS>cycles).
My personal experience tells me that the same machine runs same applications like a
slug under
Win95 when compared to NT. I see no reason to beleive that this is different when
running
setiathome.
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From: "C Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XFree86 with Trident and Viewsonic
Date: 22 May 1999 01:54:25 GMT
I'm running RH5.2 and having a problem with X. My video card is a Trident
975 and monitor is a Viewsonic p775 17". I upgraded to the new XFree86 and
new SVGA driver (because this trident wasn't supported in the RH5.2 version
of X) and can get X to come up but only with 640x480 and 256 colors. Any
other setting gives me a black screen. Also the 640x480 is a pretty ugly
one with the grey tones "moving". There are selections for both my card and
my monitor and it detects that I can go hi-res but just won't work.
Suggestions?
-Craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Is /etc/localtime causing a seg fault with glibc?
Date: 21 May 1999 13:37:20 -0400
I have Slackware 3.3, Kernel 2.2.1, and Glibc 2.0.5 runtime libaries
installed. I obtained libstdc++.so.2.8 from a slackware 3.6
distribution. The G2 executable dies immediately with a segmentation
fault every time in is run.
The libstdc++ and X11 libraries are libc5 based. Can glibc compiled
apps work with these? I've noticed that there are some timezone
related system calls in the stack. Is the the libc5 /etc/localtime
causing the __tzfile_read () system call to generate the segmentation
fault? If so, how do get the right localtime file to satisfy glibc,
but not break libc5?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
pheonix:eyager:~$ ldd g2a1_linux22.bin
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40003000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40008000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4004b000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400e8000)
libstdc++.so.2.8 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 (0x400f3000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4013e000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40156000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401ee000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401f7000)
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x4020c000)
pheonix:eyager:~$ gdb g2a1_linux22.bin
GDB 4.16 (i486-slackware-linux), Copyright 1996 Free Software
Foundation, Inc...
(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/eyager/g2a1_linux22.bin
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x4011f9a0 in _IO_sgetn ()
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4011f9a0 in _IO_sgetn ()
#1 0x4019770e in fread ()
#2 0x401b3e76 in __tzfile_read ()
#3 0x401b2eb7 in __tzstring ()
#4 0x401b3bac in __tz_convert ()
#5 0x401b0976 in localtime ()
#6 0x804dd96 in main ()
(gdb)
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Binary of XFree86 3.3.3.1
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:35:38 +0000
Using ftpsearch.lycos.com, I could only find source rpms of XFree86
3.3.3.1. Is there a site which has a binary available? If not what
version is the latest for which the binary is offered? And which server
should I use with an ATI Rage II card--Mach64 and SVGA seem the most
likely.
Regards,
Mladen
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From: "Gnork" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:54:46 -0700
<snip>
Makes me laugh.
M$ pros: Dedicated support network
350K Microsoft Trained Professionals
160K Microsoft Certified Engineers
Ever called M$ techsup ?
"Yes sir, so what it the color of your computer? that may be important..."
Who needs benchmarks anyway.
Oh yeah, I forgot...
Did they benchmark the BSoD/s? -> Blue Screen of Death / second
Gnork
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From: "Derek Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: MP3's Play To Fast
Date: 22 May 1999 02:28:42 GMT
I finished setting up my sound card with my Redhat 6.0 (kernel 2.2.5)
installation. I have an ESS1879 AudioDrive sound card so I used the
ESS1868 AudioDrive configuration in sndconfig. I put the required
settings and I heard the Linus pronounce Linux and I heard the MIDI just
dandy. CD's play great with the card as well.
However, when I use kjukebox or x11amp to play MP3's, the play at twice the
speed they should. Everyone sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks!
Has anyone else run across this problem? Any hints as to what may be wrong?
Thanks for any help.
Rafael
--
Rafael V. Cintron
Georgia Institute of Technology
College of Computing
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: 21 May 1999 18:47:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7i2vgb$7k6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
>
> JG>My guess'd be that it's a difference in compilers and/or optimisation that's
> JG>causing the big discrepency as opposed to just the OS's themselves.
>
> Take a look at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/oss.html. It shows that
>Win95 users
> are getting an average of 42 hours compared to 30 for NT, 23 for Mac and 14 for
>linux.
> Presumably the same compiler was used for 95 and NT (its the same download link).
>It would
> seem to indicate that Win95 cooperative multitasking generally falls far short in
>performance
> when compared with pre-emptive multitasking on NT.
I don't think the results on the above-referenced web site are a terribly
meaningful comparison, since there's no information on the CPUs involved.
20 CPU hours on a 400MHz Pentium-II is very different from 20 CPU hours on
a 16MHz 386. Which machine is likely to have a faster CPU, one running
Win95 or one running WinNT?
That said, the postings in this thread DO tend to include CPU information,
and these do tend to indicate that the Windows version of the program is
much less efficient than the Linux version. I agree with JG that this is
most likely due to compiler differences, or perhaps to extra code in the
Windows executables (I've not seen them in action, but the description is
that these function as screen savers, which would probably chew a few CPU
cycles).
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: Jeff Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Word Perfect
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:49:09 GMT
I am running RH5.2. I have learned that while I am downloading the file
(guilg00.gz), or other such files, that "Netscape" sometimes gunzips the
file. OK so now all I have to do is "untar" the file. I have tried
"tar -x guilg00.gz" and a few other combinations of switches and all
that happens is that the tar program hangs. I even left it running
while I went to the store to get milk, and when I got back I still had a
cursor hanging under the prompt and no extracted files. Am I doing
something wrong or is there a problem with my gzip or the file I
downloaded.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Getting Started with Linux
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:18:10 -0700
Chaz7perx wrote:
> Right now my 486 boots to DOS, but things are screwed up. I understand Linux is
> a free download.
>
Do yourself a big favor and buy a cheapbytes cd for US $2.00.
They have many flavors; I think Red Hat 5.2 is good start.
RH manual on cd. I think RH 6.0 is buggy.
You can get a grab-bag of flavors for a nominal fee.
Be prepared to do A LOT of reading and hair-pulling.
And many installs.
Cheers.
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From: "test" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MySQL v3.22.22 compiled perfectly on my Redhat 6.0 box :-)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:17:19 GMT
Woohoo! No errors or anything. Just ./configure ; make ; make install...
Wheeeeeeeeee... :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Unable to handle page fault
Date: 22 May 1999 02:58:33 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca
I'm getting kernel crashes as soon as swap space
starts to get used, or rather, re-cycled, because it is
typically when I close up graphical processes that I get them.
But it's always different processes that cause the crashes.
I've run diagnostics, upgraded the whole system, changed
video cards, changed from a swap partition to a swap file,
changed kernels, and now I'm out of ideas. What could possibly
be causing this?
Bob T.
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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash Question
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 03:57:02 +0100
>>>What is going on here? Why should doing "bash -version"
>>>fork a new shell for me?
ehhh am i being really stupid here or is the correct command
bash --version"
as for getting rid of the ones that are left hanging about just log out.
it similar to
telneting to yourself recusively. to get out of telnet you must keep loging
out to you
get back to the original shell
btw...again this may be nonsense but in general linux commands follow
the rule
of "command -<single letter switch>" and "command --"discriptive word
switch"
eg ls -C and ls --colour
j
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 21 May 1999 19:10:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 21 May 1999 18:57:23 GMT, Bill Woodford
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Numbers... dont mean jack. It means a lot of people bought/obtained
>it. Just because something is popular (by the numbers) doesnt mean that it's
Then just how, exactly, do you propose to quantify the popularity of an
OS? I was not saying that numbers meant anything for stability, ease of use,
what have you. I was refuting his assertation that FreeBSD was "popular"
compared to Linux. The rest of your message, pointing out that Linux is now a
household name only supports the assertation that Linux is more popular than
FreeBSD.
Next time, please *READ* what is quoted before spewing crap, 'k? Thank
you.
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
===============================+=============================================
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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:13:59 +0000
From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP
This same thing has happened to me. I first had a problem
a few months. I got a VIA 2013 mainboard, and I could not
get sound to work like it had on my tx mainboard. I installed
kernel 2.2 and the card worked. With redhat6.0 it has been working
right from the start, even though I get these messages. I did not even
have to do the sndconfig (but I did because I did not know this, and the
sb16PnP was detected correctly when I did, i had the volume a bit
low, but I could hear the sounds occurring....) I check my conf.modules
and they look okay...
Dan Finn wrote:
> I recently installed RedHat 6.0. I have a sound blaster 16 PnP. I was
> able to get this sound card to work with RedHat 5.2 using sndconfig so I
> was hoping that RH6 would work fine. When I ran sndconfig it detected
> the card as the right card, it then told me it was going to re-write a
> couple of files, it then complains about certain lines in the
> /etc/isapnp.conf file and not knowing what to do with a certain line. I
> tried it multiple times and even tried it with a different card and the
> same exact thing happened (it also detected that card fine). I tried to
> install the isapnptools and sndconfig packages off my RH 5.2 cd and
> sndconfig complained that it needed two library files that I didn't
> have. Any help would be really appreciated,
> Thanks
> Dan Finn
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out
Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a
case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet."
--Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:36:32 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew wrote:
>
> Thats why its GNU/Linux and not simply GNU. Its a combination
> of the Linux kernel and the GNU utilites.
>
Oh.
So if I put Netscape on to Win95 it becomes Netscape/Win95? Or
Nortons/Win95? Or Oracle/Win95?
Cliff
--
Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting
Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 025 246 7747
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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:25:02 +0000
From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
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No difference at all, except ump plugging works in netscape4.6
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I use Netscape 4.51 on Linux. Before I download 4.60 and upgrade I
> wonder if anyone has done the same and what their impressions are -
> positive or negative.
> TFAH
> John Culleton
>
> --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
--
"An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out
Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a
case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet."
--Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org
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No difference at all, except ump plugging works in netscape4.6
<p>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I use Netscape 4.51 on Linux. Before I download 4.60
and upgrade I
<br>wonder if anyone has done the same and what their impressions are -
<br>positive or negative.
<br>TFAH
<br>John Culleton
<p>--== Sent via Deja.com <a href="http://www.deja.com/">http://www.deja.com/</a>
==--
<br>---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---</blockquote>
<pre>--
"An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out
Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a
case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet."
--Anonymously posted on <A HREF="http://slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org</A></pre>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Linux killer for SuSe 6.1
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:09:37 GMT
"Stefan Knabe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A simple infinite recursion kills Linux :
Not here it doesn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>void InfRecursion (){
> char c[4000];
> InfRecursion ();
>}
>
>int main (){
> InfRecursion ();
>}
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>I'm using Kernel 2.2.5, SuSE 6.1.
>I started the program from kterm under KDE.
>After a while, Linux was dead.
I'm using kernel 2.2.9, various updates from
SuSE 5.2.
>
>Well, one can avoid this by delimiting the stack via ulimit -s .
If you don't set ulimit then your system is badly configured.
I cant believe that out of the box SuSE doesn't have ulimit
configured to some sensible limits. You might as well claim
that since removing the brakes from a Ford make it crash,
Fords are inherently bad cars.
>But it means, that Linux doesn't handle memory shortage gracefully.
No, it just means that you're trying to spread FUD.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stanaway)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: 22 May 1999 03:10:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Enkidu wrote:
>Andrew wrote:
>>
>> Thats why its GNU/Linux and not simply GNU. Its a combination
>> of the Linux kernel and the GNU utilites.
>>
>Oh.
>
>So if I put Netscape on to Win95 it becomes Netscape/Win95? Or
>Nortons/Win95? Or Oracle/Win95?
Not that I agree we should only ever call Linux GNU/Linux .. I do think
that GNU does have some merits with their request. These arguments
about calling windows Nescape/Windows are very stupid and competely different.
Almost ALL of the binaries on any Linux system are linked to libc.6 which
is GNU and they were compiled almost certainly with gcc or egcs. There is very
little that you can do on a Linux system without having any depedence on a
GNU program/library/program compiled with gcc Especially since the kernel
itself was compiled with it. Linux is VERY MUCH a GNU system.. if you can't
deal with that.. then get FreeBSD which does not depend on GNU to such a high
extent.
If you can't see how this is different from calling Windows with Netscape
installed Netscape/Windows.. then you are obviously not very perceptive.
David Stanaway
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Crossposted-To:
comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.databases,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
From: "Daniel W. Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oracle8i for Linux / MySQL 3.22.22 RPMs specifically for Redhat 6.0
(Glibc-2.1 / kernel 2.2)
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:09:11 GMT
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Yesterday wrote:
> 1) Does anyone have their Oracle8i for Linux cd-rom yet?
I read briefly that 8i-lite would be out for linux end of this month, but
the full version wasn't available yet (can anyone confirm this? now that I
type this, I'm wondering if that was the Windows CE version I was reading
about)...
> 2) Where can I get MySQL 3.22.22 RPMs specifically for Redhat 6.0 Linux?
Go to www.mysql.com and go to the download section... the redhat 5.x rpms
work like a charm. You don't necessairly have to have something built for
6.0, it just has to work ;) Otherwise, download the source code and compile
it yourself in redhat6, and then you'll have a version specifically for 6 ;)
Dan.
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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word Perfect
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 03:32:20 GMT
You may want to specify a file:
tar -xf guilg00.gz
The f switch indicates that the source is a file (guilg00.gz) Otherwise it's
waiting on stdin for the data to untar... (You don't want to code a
wordperfect tarball on the fly do you?? :-)
If you get a message like "Hmm, this doesn't look like a tar file." then it
may be gzipped still:
tar -xzf guilg00.gz
Hope this helps!!
FK
Jeff Busch wrote:
> I am running RH5.2. I have learned that while I am downloading the file
> (guilg00.gz), or other such files, that "Netscape" sometimes gunzips the
> file. OK so now all I have to do is "untar" the file. I have tried
> "tar -x guilg00.gz" and a few other combinations of switches and all
> that happens is that the tar program hangs. I even left it running
> while I went to the store to get milk, and when I got back I still had a
> cursor hanging under the prompt and no extracted files. Am I doing
> something wrong or is there a problem with my gzip or the file I
> downloaded.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jeff
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From: Rich Piotrowski <rpiotrow*nospammin'*@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: netscape + java
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:34:09 -0500
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Daniel Kollar wrote:
***********************Much cut***********************************
>
>Thx for posting, but this didn't solve the problem. Netscape still
>crashes.
>Why do you think, it is a font problem?
>
>> This can also be accomplished via
>>
>> chkfontlist --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>
>I don't have the chkfontlist program. Is it shipped with redhat-6.0?
>What's the name of the rpm-package?
>
>--
>Daniel Kollar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Homepage http://www.riednet.wh.tu-darmstadt.de/~kollar
>Student at University of Technology, Darmstadt, Germany
>Studying electrical engineering, solid state electronics
>
Have you tried disabling JAVA? I suspect that is where the problem lies. It
worked here anyway.
Rich Piotrowski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (eloki)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: 22 May 1999 03:49:44 GMT
David Stanaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote unto us:
>Almost ALL of the binaries on any Linux system are linked to libc.6 which
>is GNU and they were compiled almost certainly with gcc or egcs.
Except for all those systems (including my old one) which are linked (and
quite happily I might add :) to libc5, which wasn't GNU.
>There is very
>little that you can do on a Linux system without having any depedence on a
>GNU program/library/program compiled with gcc.
Oh, I agree with that. But that doesn't mean you have to call it
GNU/Linux. I appreciate the GNU contribution, but there's no need for it to
be called GNU/Linux to appreciate it. Richard Stallman's GPL has already
got heaps of publicity due to the Linux kernel being GPL, and quite frankly,
I thought that's what he really wanted - more software becoming free. If he
wants the FSF itself to become famous, then he should concentrate GNU's
efforts on Hurd and making it into a competitor system to Linux and the
rest.
>If you can't see how this is different from calling Windows with Netscape
>installed Netscape/Windows.. then you are obviously not very perceptive.
Netscape/Windows is inapropriate since Navigator is just a web browser.
But back only a few years, I was using QEMM for extended/expanded memory in
DOS and running Norton utilities.. so would you say it should have been
called Quarterdeck/Norton/DOS ? As I said, when there are non-GNU/Linux
systems, then I'll call my system GNU/Linux to unambiguously describe it.
Otherwise, it doesn't need to be put in the name just to please Richard
Stallman.
--
eloki
eloki/at/zip.com.au
Dare I disturb the universe? You bet I do! :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:36:25 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip
: Then just how, exactly, do you propose to quantify the popularity of an
: OS?
Who cares?
: I was not saying that numbers meant anything for stability, ease of use,
: what have you.
Good, because they don't.
: I was refuting his assertation that FreeBSD was "popular" compared to
: Linux.
No comparison needed; They are both popular (unqualified).
: The rest of your message, pointing out that Linux is now a household name
: only supports the assertation that Linux is more popular than FreeBSD.
Yes, it is. No one disputes this. But so what? Windows is more
popular then everything else combined.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Caffeine...for the mind.
Pizza......for the body.
Sushi......for the soul.
-- User Friendly
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: 22 May 1999 01:57:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:
DV>On 21 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Take a look at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/oss.html. It shows that
>Win95 users
>> are getting an average of 42 hours compared to 30 for NT, 23 for Mac and 14 for
>linux.
>> Presumably the same compiler was used for 95 and NT (its the same download link).
>It would
>> seem to indicate that Win95 cooperative multitasking generally falls far short in
>performance
DV>Windows 95 does do preemptive multitasking for Win32 programs.
Well, it doesn't do it very well. Its being outperformend by *MACs*
>> when compared with pre-emptive multitasking on NT. Granted, the Win95 machines are
>more
>> likely to to be hampered by other factors (cycle hogging WinModems, low RAM, etc.).
> However a
>> clear picture emerges: Win95 is still not ready for primetime.
DV>Does that surprise you given the design (?) of Windows 95? It's still
DV>C/PMish underneath.
Not at all.
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