Linux-Misc Digest #298, Volume #24 Thu, 27 Apr 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: VFS messages spamming ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Novell-Linux file transfer help (Christopher Browne)
Re: MP3 "walkman" and Linux support (Christopher Browne)
Booting DOS6.1 on a second IDE drive (Nick van Stigt)
Linux Journal Python supplement (A.M. Kuchling)
Re: Linux and SCO ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: How Big Will X Grow Today? (Stewart Honsberger)
libsafe and WordPerfect (Bob Tennent)
Re: How Big Will X Grow Today? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: How the blank do I use .dif (.diff) files? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Booting DOS6.1 on a second IDE drive (Dances With Crows)
Units and Sizes as per Large-Disk-HOWTO (Guy Fraser)
Re: SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels (Dances With Crows)
Re: VMware newsgroup (Jonathan Kamens)
Re: Linux Journal Python supplement (John Scudder)
Can't boot SuSE Linux anymore (George Bell)
Top ten Linux sites ("Editor")
Dependencie msgs at boot ("Rescue9")
Re: Newbie question on installing linux (Alex)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VFS messages spamming
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:15:33 GMT
In my experiance the problem happens with magicdev going berzerk. Type
'ps -ef |grep magicdev' and then kill the responsible proc.
--Justin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Michael Kelly wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Apr 2000 21:56:56 GMT, Alastair Neil
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
> >
> > What's your /etc/fstab file?
> > Do you have the option for your cdrom
> > set to noauto?
> >
> > Mike
> here is my fstab:
>
> /dev/hda1 / ext2 defaults
> 1 1
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660
noauto,owner,ro
> 0 0
> /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults
> 0 0
> /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto,owner
> 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults
> 0 0
> none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620
> 0 0
> none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs
> defaults 0 0
>
> The cdrom entry is noauto as you can see.
>
> --
> Those who are mentally and emotionally healthy are those who have
> learned
> when to say yes, when to say no and when to say whoopee. -- W.S.
Krabill
> Alastair Neil
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Novell-Linux file transfer help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:04:57 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Doug Robbins would say:
>This is a little off-topic, but I hope you'll bear with me.
>
>The building where I work (housing a number of non-profit groups in a
>rural northern Canadian town) has a defunct Novell network server. The
>network was put in place in the early 1990s and operated until the last
>couple years. I am currently putting in a Linux machine as a server and
>connecting the various desktop PCs (which run Windows).
>
>Here's the problem. The old Novell server has lots of user files on it
>from a 7-8 year period. Occasionally someone wanders in looking for a
>file from years back (the place has public-access workstations that once
>ran from the server). I'd like to get all the user files off the Novell
>harddrive and stored on the Linux machine (or burned on a CD...
>whatever).
>
>I don't know *anything* about Novell... though I do have access to the
>admin login/password. The Novell machine is not connected to the new
>Linux/Windows network... I suppose it could be but I don't know how. I
>have physical access to the Novell machine. I could remove the harddrive
>and put it in the Linux machine if I could access/mount it there.
>
>How would you proceed in a situation like this?
>
>Any help sincerely appreciated!
You might consult the FileSystems HOWTO:
<http://metalab.unc.edu/filesystems/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO-9.html>
It _appears_ that there is a Netware filesystem available for the
Linux kernel; that _might_ allow you to pull the hard drive and mount
it on Linux.
If the server is pretty old, then you may have a hardware
compatibility issue.
Easier might be to hook up the Linux box to the Novell machine's
network.
NCPFS <ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/ncpfs/ncpfs.tgz> is an NDS
client for Linux.
See also:
<http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/ncpfs/!INDEX.html>
--
A student, in hopes of understanding the Lambda-nature, came to
Greenblatt. As they spoke a Multics system hacker walked by. "Is it
true", asked the student, "that PL-1 has many of the same data types
as Lisp?" Almost before the student had finished his question,
Greenblatt shouted, "FOO!", and hit the student with a stick.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: MP3 "walkman" and Linux support
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:04:53 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Peter Simons would say:
>I am toying with the idea of getting one of the portable MP3 players
>as, for example, offered by Sony. Unfortunately, these beasts require
>some special software to actually upload MP3 files into the memory --
>and that software is available for Windows only. Does anyone know
>whether appropriato software is available for any of those MP3 players
>for Linux? Or whether I can run the Windows software using VMWare?
The only ones available in North America that appear to be supported
on Linux at this point are the Diamond Rio series.
Many of the newer varieties of MP3 player seem to integrate fairly
severe "anti-copying" technologies that result in the "client"
software that runs on one's PC being _extremely_ proprietary, as the
vendors are trying to make it difficult/impossible to make copies of
music outside the control of the vendor.
--
All the world's an analog stage, and digital circuts play only bit parts.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/musicmp3.html>
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From: Nick van Stigt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Booting DOS6.1 on a second IDE drive
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:53:32 -0300
Hi:
I have just completed a partition shuffle after buying a new hd. Now
that the dust has settled, I have 2 DOS6.1 partitions on the second IDE
drive (hdb1 and hdb2).
LILO is configured to boot from the MBR of hda (boot=/dev/hda)
Linux (which is spread accross several partitions on hda ) boots
perfectly using a re-written lilo.conf, but I have been unable to boot
dos on hdb1, using lilo. I have even tagged hdb1 as 'active' using
fdisk. The error message I get when I try my is 'Non-system disk
error'.
The DOS partitions themelves are fine, because they show up C: D: if I
boot the machine with a DOS boot floppy. The DOS system files
(including the hidden ones) are all present on hdb1.
So, my questions are:
1: Is there any intrinsic reason why DOS won't boot if the C: drive is
not located on the first hard drive?
2: What should the dos paragraph in lilo.conf look like for this to
work? At present I have:
other=/dev/hdb1
label=dos
for my dos paragraph.
The global paragraph is:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
default=linux
3: Is there anything else I have missed?
I should add that I had the system working perfectly in my old
configuration, which had a DOS partition on each drive, ie C: was hda2
and D: was hdb1.
Any suggestions greatfully received....
Nick van Stigt.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.M. Kuchling)
Subject: Linux Journal Python supplement
Date: 28 Apr 2000 01:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've seen no discussion of the Python supplement included with this
month's Linux journal, either in comp.lang.python or in any of the
Linux groups. What did people think of it?
--
A.M. Kuchling http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/
Thank you for letting me borrow your objects.
-- Ute Lemper in concert, March 13, 1997
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and SCO
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:17:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Brian E. Seppanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I log into the SCO machines, I do so in the following way:
> xterm -tn scoansi -e telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> xterm -tn ansi -e telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
scoansi and ansi aren't the same as xterm (use infocmp to see).
SCO has DEL (127) set for the interrupt character.
You are probably pressing the backarrow key, which depending on your
configuration will transmit either a backspace (8) or DEL.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: How Big Will X Grow Today?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:27:40 GMT
On 26 Apr 2000 22:47:47 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote:
>>As you can see, RAM doesn't go very far anymore. :<
>
>You have 24Mb of free RAM that can be used for program execution. That is
>more than 1/3rd of your total RAM. It appears to be a good match for you
>typical usage, if the above was taken at a representative time.
Not really. Once I throw Communicator into the mix, I see my memory meter max
out and my swap meter start rising. 64M is not enough anymore.
>Of course it *is* nice to have a lot of RAM available for disk buffers
>and caching. So there would be some benefit to going to 128Mb, but
>you might have a hard time noticing the difference.
Quite the contrary, I have noticed the difference first-hand.
Being an administrator for my school's network, I've greater privileges than
most normal users. On my personnal Linux box with 64M of SDRAM installed, I
decided to try borrowing a 64M stick from another box. I immediately noticed
a difference in performance. X 'appeared' on the screen without any noticeable
lag. Communicator was the same way. With X loaded, the disk cache in RAM was
about 50M, with about 24M free. Swap usage was at zero until I loaded Win'98
in VMWare with 96M of RAM alotted to it.
Linux runs great on low-end systems, yes, but if you want the latest GUI
with the latest Netscape incarnation, you'll want as much RAM as your mobo
will take.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: libsafe and WordPerfect
Date: 28 Apr 2000 02:24:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just a warning to those interested in trying libsafe from bell-labs.
I installed the libsafe rpm today on a RedHat 6.2 box. Everything seemed
to work OK until my daughter fired up WordPerfect: it immediately segfaults
without leaving a trace in the log file. After uninstalling libsafe, WP is
back to normal.
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: How Big Will X Grow Today?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:30:35 GMT
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:06:32 BST, Lack Mr G M wrote:
> What surprises me is that X seems to get distributed with the
>xdm-config "terminateServer" option set to false. If set to true then
>when you logout xdm will restart the X server, hence any memory leaks
>are removed. The restart takes all of a second, so why is it disabled
>by default? Why would you *ever* wish to disable it?
Could you elaborate a little more on this point?
What is it you mean by 'log out'? Are you talking about somebody with a GUI
logon for their Linux machine?
I use the console to log on, and only have X loaded when I'm going to be here
to use it. When finished, I close X and log out of that TTY. Would this
feature benefeit me in any way?
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
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Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:32:46 GMT
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:39:52 GMT, Ron Zoscak wrote:
>>On bootup while initializing the serial ports, I get several (dozen) messages
>>along the lines of;
>>
>>/etc/conf.modules is newer than /usr/lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
>
>Have you tried running SuSEconfig?
Repeatedly.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How the blank do I use .dif (.diff) files?
Date: 27 Apr 2000 22:35:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, I have wondered this for ages, and thought I had figured
> it out when I had successfully done a:
> $cat *.diff| diff
> and had it work
(I can't imagine what "work" means here.)
> But I am running an distribution that has patches for the src files
> and funny .dif files along with them
> when I try
> $diff foo.diff
> $cat foo.diff|diff
> $diff <foo.diff
> none of these work, and just issue usage messages for the diff command...
>
> So, how do I
> A) apply dif(f) files properly in the first place
> B) tell wether or not what I have *are in fact* diff files
> (one would assume they are, given the placement and
> name of them; but I thot that the standard extention
> was 'diff' not 'dif'
If they _are_ files produced by "diff", near the beginning there will be
lines that look something like
--- path/to/oldfile OLDFILE_DATE
+++ path/to/newfile NEWFILE_DATE
They are just lists of line-by-line differences between (old and new) files
(or directories). You can use the patch(1) program to turn the old
versions into the new versions. You may need to read the man page about
the "-p" option, which you need to supply when there are directories
involved.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Booting DOS6.1 on a second IDE drive
Date: 27 Apr 2000 22:39:21 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:53:32 -0300, Nick van Stigt
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Hi:
>
>I have just completed a partition shuffle after buying a new hd. Now
>that the dust has settled, I have 2 DOS6.1 partitions on the second IDE
>drive (hdb1 and hdb2).
[snippage]
>2: What should the dos paragraph in lilo.conf look like for this to
>work? At present I have:
>other=/dev/hdb1
>label=dos
>3: Is there anything else I have missed?
other=/dev/hdb1
label=dos
table=/dev/hdb
That table= line is somewhat important. A friend of mine has a similar
setup, using Lose95 instead of DOS 6.1, and his boots to either OS just
fine. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Guy Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Units and Sizes as per Large-Disk-HOWTO
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:34:22 -0600
Hi
I have been working on computers and logic systems since 1979 and take
issue with your comments in the "Large Disk HOWTO" you wrote.
Your Quote "Quite correctly, the disk drive manufacturers follow the SI
norm ..." is misleading and incorrect.
This is completely absurd and making a different "standard" has similar
absurdity.
Do you not agree that computers use Base 2 Math ?
>From the very earliest part of my education in Electronics and
Programming I have been made aware of this distinction. When are dealing
with a base 2 measurements you use 2^10 = 1024
for Kilo 2^20 = 1048576 for Mega ... etc. This has nothing at all to do
with SI.
SI is a Base 10 scaled measurement system that is incomparable with Base
2 math. When you talk bytes you should be thinking base 2 math, when you
talk about distance {,...} you should be thinking base 10.
There is no justification for Manufacturers to opt for the more
convenient base 10 SI scale when they are dealing with base 2 bytes.
Their is no confusion in the minds of thousands of Computer Science,
Digital Electronics Engineers or Programmers with these differing
measurement scales.
You should have explained that the SI scale is used as a marketing
strategy but that 1 kB is 1024 Bytes, because computers deal with base 2
math, and 1 kB = 2^10 Bytes = 1024 Bytes.
Whether lay persons understand base 2 math is not important, what is
important is that they understand that a kB = 1024 B(yte(s)) and a km =
1000 m(etre(s)) and that measurement of bytes do not use SI but use a
scaling factor that appears to be the same as SI.
Please note the US still does not engineer things to conform to the SI
measurement system.
These are just the facts, and these standards have been in place for
well over 20 years.
The whole idea of these new "standards" is as justifiable redefining a
faggot. A faggot is a bunch of sticks tied together. You would probably
suggest that the correct designation for a bunch of sticks tied together
is not a faggot but a bundle of sticks. Or would stickstick sticki
become the new standard.
I hope you don't consider this an anti sexual preference statement, I am
talking about sticks just as you were talking about bytes. An MMB is a
Mega-Maga-Byte not a Megabyte and a Mb is a Mega-bit not a hundred bytes
isn't all about base scales and not SI. Note the lack of :
dB(deci / 10) DB(deka x10) etc. The smallest number representable is 2^0
= 1 anything smaller than a byte is an octet nibble or bit and 2 bytes
are a word and 4 bytes a double word. You would likely try to contest
that a word is 4 characters (bytes) because in typewriting this is the
standard for measuring word per minute.
If you are aware of a reasonable reason why the common/accepted standard
MUST be changed I would like to know, just don't mention SI since bytes
and bits are not SI units and should not be treated as such.
Guy Fraser
{ I have 21 years of experience starting from designing dtl/rtl/egc/ttl
logic then to assembly and up to common higher lever programming on
equipment from specialized embedded systems to mini computers and micro
computers. The analog "computers" I have developed could use the SI
scale for measuring Voltage and Current but all statefull
saturation/clamping logic is represented as base 2 it is either in a
high state or a low state but I need not go into further detail }
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.0 - 6.4 upgrade and kernel hassels
Date: 27 Apr 2000 22:45:01 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:32:46 GMT, Stewart Honsberger
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:39:52 GMT, Ron Zoscak wrote:
>>>On bootup while initializing the serial ports, I get several
>>>(dozen) messages
>>>along the lines of;
>>>
>>>/etc/conf.modules is newer than /usr/lib/modules/2.2.14/modules.dep
>>
>>Have you tried running SuSEconfig?
>
>Repeatedly.
SuSEConfig is overkill.
# cd /usr/src/linux && make modules
# mv /lib/modules/2.2.14 /lib/modules/2.2.14.old
# make modules_install
# depmod -a
...shuffles all old modules away, installs only those modules you've
compiled (removing "unresolved symbol" errors), rebuilds modules.dep.
Should work. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Kamens)
Subject: Re: VMware newsgroup
Date: 28 Apr 2000 02:30:02 GMT
In article <8e4ocn$nnk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Yasuda) writes:
>In XRN I'm typing: xrn -nntpServer news.vmware.com
This works just fine for me. Is it possible that your site is
firewalled to prevent NNTP connections to off-site servers (e.g., to
prevent people at your site from spamming the Usenet through open NNTP
servers at other sites)?
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Journal Python supplement
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:29:25 -0500
"A.M. Kuchling" wrote:
> I've seen no discussion of the Python supplement included with this
> month's Linux journal, either in comp.lang.python or in any of the
> Linux groups. What did people think of it?
>
> --
> A.M. Kuchling http://starship.python.net/crew/amk/
> Thank you for letting me borrow your objects.
> -- Ute Lemper in concert, March 13, 1997
Mine just arrived today and I haven't had a chance to look at it. I am
sure other people are in the same situation.
John
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From: George Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't boot SuSE Linux anymore
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:56:54 -0400
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I upgraded to a larger hard disk drive and transferred all of the
partitions from the old drive to the new one using dos partionmagic
utility. I changed the size and order of the partitions and added some
new ones, but the original partions were all reinstalled. But when I
try to boot Linux, I get:
Warning: unable to open an initial console
Kernal panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernal.
I have gone back in with a rescue system and updated the fstab file to
correctly reflect the new configuration of the hard drive. I have also
verified that /sbin/init is there!
Now I face the prospect of having to reinstall Linux again from scratch
just because I have changed some of the partitions. This was no problem
at all with windows.
Is there anything that can be done short of reinstalling everything?
Thanks
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From: "Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.apps,linux.misc
Subject: Top ten Linux sites
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:01:13 -0700
Top ten Linux sites according to PC World and TenLinks.com:
http://www.tenlinks.com/Computers/Software/linux.htm
Do you agree? Let us know.
Editor
www.tenlinks.com - the Ultimate Technology Directory
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From: "Rescue9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dependencie msgs at boot
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:09:49 -0500
I am getting some dependency messages at boot. IF I don't use these services
then can I just remove the offending files?
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question on installing linux
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:21:20 -0700
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> Phil Mossop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : E:. I am thinking of making E: for Linux and keeping the other two for
> : Win98. I do not want to totally remove Windows (just yet), but want to be
> : able to choose which OS to use at startup.
>
> : Some questions:
>
> : 1. Do you think there are any conceptual problems with this?
>
> Yes . you don't use "a partition" for linux. You remove the partition
> and replace it with 4 or 5 linux ones (swap, /, /usr, var, ...). 2GB
> of space should be fine.
>
> Also you may have a practical problem. You will have difficulty booting
> using the standard boot loader if your partition E: currently starts
> above cylinder 1023 on the disk, because the bios cannot jump there.
You *were* correct, but not anymore.
A new LILO, 0.21.4.2 has just been releasded, it supports up to
2Tb HD.
No more 1024 cylinder limit. Itsn't that wonderful? :)
Get it from
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/
or other usual mirrors.
Alex
-snipped-
> Peter
--
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