Linux-Misc Digest #308, Volume #20               Sun, 23 May 99 00:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Apache.. please help. (Chris Knapp)
  Re: Tools under Linus (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Latest stable kernel is what? (Lev Babiev)
  Re: SETI comparisons (Bill McClain)
  netcom (Peragrine)
  Latest stable kernel is what? (Ken Williams)
  FAQ: glibc2 / libc6 and kernel 2.2.x (Mark Tranchant)
  Re: CompuServe? (Bruce Schultz)
  Re: In defence of UNIX man pages (Tom Christiansen)
  Re: Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Jeffrey C. Dege)
  KDE Sound ("Greg Dugan")
  Re: Latest stable kernel is what?
  Re: netscape + java (Ron Olsen)
  Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1 (TH)
  Benchmarking a file system. (Vijay Boyapati)
  Re: sound ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Changing from RH to SuSe (Charles Stroom)
  Conner tape drive and Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Chris Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache.. please help.
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:13:58 -0400

Hello!

I recently installed Red Hat 5.2 on a machine where I work.  We have
approx 250 machines, all of them running winNT.  I want to use the Linux
box as a webserver for the next few months to host a modest intranet for
out HR department.

Some questions:

I got it networked just fine with a static IP and I can put html files
into the /home/html/ directory just fine.  I can hit these pages from
anywhere in the network without trouble.  My problem is that I CANNOT
find the apache configyration program.  I';ve seen it before on other
Linux systems but it just isn't in any of the menus.  Obviously Apache
is installed, but I'd like to be able to use some of the options and
other features.  How do I find out where it is and how do I launch the
utility?  I'd like to run it in X.

Also, In the standard 5.2 install, windowmaker is supposed to be on the
menu.  It isn't.  How do I get it on?

Finally, since our LAN is NT-based, can anyone suggest a good way to
have client upload their own web-content?  Do we have to run some kind
of Samba-type directory share or is it possible to use an FTP program?
I sim[ply want to have joe-user be able to put files on the linux box
and then have those files on the intranet with a minimal amount of
'support' to the user.

Thanks!

Chris

ps:  any other folks out there who've tried to integrate an Apache
server on an NT intranet?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Tools under Linus
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:20:19 -0500

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I Ching Hsueh)
spake unto us, saying:

>A good question for Linus people.  
>I want to know, how many well-known tools now run under Linus, or
>which webside I should visit to get this.

Many well-known Unix tools will run under Linux.  One good file site is
here:

  http://www.freshmeat.net

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
    OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
            9 out of 10 men who tried Camels prefer women.

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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Latest stable kernel is what?
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:47:37 -0400

Ken Williams wrote:
> 
> Is 2.2.9 the latest stable now or 2.3.x?

        2.2.9, 2.3.x is a new devel tree.

     - Lev
        
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill McClain)
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:10:21 -0600

Bill McClain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pentium II 300Mhz, setiathome v1.1, Linux 2.0.36: 13 hours. This is
> running at nice 19 with me doing light work on the machine all day. 

Followup: the i686 version is a bit faster: about 11.25 hours.

-Bill

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From: Peragrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netcom
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:02:33 -0400

i am having trouble using
Linux to connect to my
netcom account.   
I just finished
installing red hat 6.0 . 
What scripts or other
information should I know

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Latest stable kernel is what?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 01:44:08 GMT

Is 2.2.9 the latest stable now or 2.3.x?

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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: FAQ: glibc2 / libc6 and kernel 2.2.x
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:47:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Lots of people seem to have the idea that glibc2 must be installed to
use a 2.2 kernel. This is not the case. I suspect the confusion comes
from the Documentation/Changes file which advises on preferred levels of
libc5 and libc6 (glibc2) for use with a 2.2 kernel.

What this is saying is "*if* you have libc5, it should be libc-5.4.46 or
better" and "*if* you have libc6, it should be libc-2.0.7-pre6 or
better". It is *not* saying "you *must* have libc-2.0.7-pre6".

Hope this helps someone. Perhaps a change to Changes may be in order.

Mark.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Schultz)
Subject: Re: CompuServe?
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:43:34 -04-59
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 15 May 1999 13:56:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In an installation of SuSE Linux I saw a reference to Compuserve being
>used as an ISP when setting up PPP. I'm not currently on SuSE but would
>like to use Compuserve if possible. At the moment I'm unable to connect
>due to chap secrets error. If anyone out there in Linux Land is using
>Compuserve and would like to share examples of chap setup or other
>critical considerations please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Ray Seiffert

You don't use chap to connect to Compuserve.  You set up a chat script
that does the following:

send an initial carriage return ('/r')
respond to the "Hostname:" prompt with 'CIS'.  
respond to the User ID: prompt with 'XXXX.XXXX/GO:PPPCONNECT' 
respond to 'Password:' prompt with your password.  

(XXXXX.XXXX is your Compuserver ID.

It should establish your ppp connection at that point.

With RedHat's netcfg program it's pretty trivial.  I've also set it up
in Slackware and Debian, but you have to actually type in the script.

-- 
Bruce Schultz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In defence of UNIX man pages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 17 May 1999 05:56:01 -0700

 [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email]

In comp.os.linux.misc, John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> >What I want in a man page is EXAMPLES.
:Quite so.  It would go a long way to making it easier for
:new users to come up to speed.  I wonder...the man pages
:already come with a number of sections defined; eg, 
:"User commands" "System calls" "Devices" etc. and some
:commands have entries in several sections.  Would it be
:possible to perhaps graft on another section called "Usage
:examples" so when you want to see examples of a command in
:action all you have to do is summon up that section?  Makes
:sense to me, anyway, but what do I know about man pages?

Ask me, ask me! :-)

For those not sure of its proper layout, here's an example skeleton
of a proper man page.  Major headers are traditionally written in the
rather startling ALL UPPER CASE format, although this is not mandatory.
Minor headers, if used, are typically in mixed case.  Here are the most
common major headers.  Only NAME and DESCRIPTION are, and SYNOPSIS for
programs and functions, but most of the others are traditional and useful
in most manpages.

   NAME      Mandatory section; should be a comma-separated list of
             programs or functions documented by this manpage, such as:
                 foo, bar - programs to do something

   SYNOPSIS  A short usage summary for programs and functions.

   DESCRIPTION
             Long drawn out discussion of the program.  It's a good
             idea to break this up into subsections.

   OPTIONS   Some people make this separate from the description.

   RETURN VALUE
             What the program or function returns if successful.

   ERRORS    Exceptions, return codes, exit stati, and errno settings.

   EXAMPLES  Give some example uses of the program.

   ENVIRONMENT
             Envariables this program might care about.

   FILES     All files used by the program.  You should probably
             use an italic font for these.

   SEE ALSO  Other man pages to check out, like man(1), man(7),
             makewhatis(8), or catman(8).

   NOTES     Miscellaneous commentary.

   CAVEATS   Things to take special care with; sometimes called WARNINGS.

   DIAGNOSTICS
             All possible messages the program can print out--and what they
             mean.

   BUGS      Things that are broken or just don't work quite right.

   RESTRICTIONS
             Bugs you don't plan to fix :-)

   AUTHOR    Who wrote it (or AUTHORS if multiple).  You might include
             a copyright here, or as a separate COPYRIGHT section.

   HISTORY   Programs derived from other sources sometimes have this,
             or you might keep a modification log here.

Here's a more traditional rendering showing exact markups.  The words
are slightly different 

    .TH NAME SECTION 
    .\" NAME should be all caps, SECTION should be 1-8, maybe w/ subsection
    .\" other parms are allowed: see man(7), man(1).  Some systems support
    .\" more flexible sectioning conventions.

    .SH NAME
    foo, bar \- programs to do something

    .SH SYNOPSIS
    A short usage summary

    .SH DESCRIPTION
    Long drawn out discussion of the program.  it's a good idea
    to break this up into subsections using the .SS macros, like
    these:

    .SS "A Sample Subection"
    .SS "Yet Another Sample Subection"

    .SH OPTIONS
    Some people make this separate from the description.

    .SH "RETURN VALUE"
    .\" Always quote multiple words for .SH
    What the program or function returns if successful.

    .SH ERRORS
    Return codes, either exit status or errno settings.

    .SH EXAMPLES
    Give some example uses of the program

    .SH ENVIRONMENT
    Envariables this program might care about

    .SH FILES
    All files used by the program.  typical usage is like this:
    .br
    .nf
    .\" set tabstop to longest possible filename, plus a wee bit
    .ta \w'/usr/lib/perl/getopts.pl   'u
    \fI/usr/man\fR  default man tree
    \fI/usr/man/man*/*.*\fR unformatted (nroff source) man pages

    .SH "SEE ALSO"
    .\" Always quote multiple words for .SH
    Other man pages to check out, like man(1), man(7), makewhatis(8), catman(8)

    .SH NOTES
    Miscellaneous commentary

    .SH CAVEATS
    Things to take special care with.  sometimes called WARNINGS.

    .SH DIAGNOSTICS
    All the possible error messages the program can print out, and
    what they mean.

    .SH BUGS
    Things that are broken or just don't work quite right.

    .SH RESTRICTIONS
    Bugs you don't plan to fix :-)

    .SH AUTHOR
    Who wrote it (or AUTHORS if multiple)

    .SH HISTORY
    Programs derived from other sources sometimes have this.

--tom
-- 
    X-Windows: Dissatisfaction guaranteed.
        --Jamie Zawinski

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:59:56 +0100

On Mon, 17 May 1999, Khairul Azmi Abu Bakar wrote:

> 
> I don;t know why but after upgrading my pc to redhat 6.0, i could not run
> any xwindows application from an xterm windows. The only way to run it is
> by clicking the icon. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Delete the ~/.Xauthority file.

David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:57:43 GMT

On 22 May 1999 23:41:06 GMT, Chris Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The implication that you cite is also bunk because of the fact that's it is
>not possible to record the number of defensive uses of a gun.  A defensive use
>of a gun doesn't necessarily involve the actual shooting of a criminal -- it
>could involve simply using it as a threat.  

How do we count instances were the potential perpetrator simply decides
not to attempt a crime because of the possibility that the victim is
armed?  Answer: we can't.  But I, at least, would consider it a valid
defensive use of a gun.

-- 
He shifted his weight from foot to foot, but it was equally uncomfortable
on both.  Obviously somebody had been appallingly incompetent and
he hoped to God it wasn't him.
                                              --Douglas Adams

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From: "Greg Dugan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE Sound
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:02:46 -0400

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Latest stable kernel is what?
Date: 23 May 1999 02:27:30 GMT

On Sun, 23 May 1999 01:44:08 GMT, Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is 2.2.9 the latest stable now 

Yes.

>or 2.3.x?

No. The 2.3.x series are development kernels. Use them at
your own risk.
-- 
Brien
{[EMAIL PROTECTED]}

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Olsen)
Subject: Re: netscape + java
Date: 23 May 1999 03:25:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This can also be accomplished via
> > 
> >         chkfontlist --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> 
> I don't have the chkfontlist program. Is it shipped with redhat-6.0?
> What's the name of the rpm-package?

Typo.  That should be

         chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi

which is in the chkfontpath-1.4.1-1 package in RH 6.0.

-- 
        Ron Olsen
        Boulder Colorado
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:05:58 +0800

Hi Jens,
        When trying to edit the rc.config, the comment for the dummy option
mentions that it's best to set the dummy option to "yes" when accessing
the Net thru PPP.  What's your view on this?

If indeed "yes", what other settings need to be done so that the dummy
option can be turned on in the kernel and I could still dial up?

TH

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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:58:18 +1000
From: Vijay Boyapati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Benchmarking a file system.

Hi guys,

I want to bench mark the performance of a file system (minix). I
basically want to keep track of how many times certain functions get
called (and how much total time they take) --- ie the inode_operations
defined in file.c in the /minix directory under /usr/src/fs.


I want these statistics to be available in a file in /proc for viewing
on demand.


My problem is: How can you determine when an inode_operation is called.
My idea was to redefine all the inode_operations (in the
inode_operations structure in file.c) to point to functions I define and
have those functions call the actual inode_operations (so I can do the
benchmarking in between).

The problem I am having is that not all the inode_operations are defined
(they are NULL) meaning that they default to some default
inode_operation defined somewhere in /fs. My question is, how do I find
out where these default operations are. I don't really know which file
to look in. If I cant find them then I can't get my functions to call
the appropriate inode_operation, cause I don't know their name!.



Hope this makes sense.


thanks in advance,


Vij.


please forward any reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.kde
Subject: Re: sound
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:47:10 GMT

Below is the info that is relevant. Maybe you can figure out why there
is no sound; I can not.

I thought I had compiled sound support into the kernel (2.2.5). I also
have the generic 2.0.36 kernel that came on CD.

# cat elmo.wav > /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp: Operation not supported by device.
# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
# ls /lib/modules/2.2.5/misc/
appletalk.o      parport_probe.o  sb.o             uart401.o
# ls /lib/modules/2.0.36-1/misc/
aci.o            es1370.o         lp.o             pss.o
ad1848.o         es1371.o         mad16.o          pt.o
adlib_card.o     fit2.o           maui.o           riscom8.o
aedsp16.o        fit3.o           mpu401.o         sb.o
appletalk.o      frpw.o           msnd.o           sc.o
aten.o           ftape.o          msnd_classic.o   sgalaxy.o
awe_wave.o       gus.o            msnd_pinnacle.o  softoss2.o
b1pci.o          hisax.o          on20.o           sonicvibes.o
bpck.o           iBCS             on26.o           sound.o
capi.o           icn.o            opl3.o           soundcore.o
capidrv.o        ipx.o            opl3sa.o         soundlow.o
capiutil.o       isdn.o           opl3sa2.o        specialix.o
comm.o           isdnloop.o       pas2.o           sscape.o
cs4232.o         isicom.o         pcbit.o          stallion.o
cyclades.o       istallion.o      pcd.o            trix.o
dstr.o           kbic.o           pd.o             uart401.o
epat.o           kernelcapi.o     pf.o             uart6850.o
epia.o           ktti.o           pg.o             v_midi.o
#

In article <7hnib9$16f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Daniel Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to create a new kernel with sound suport or load the modules
for
> your seound card.  Some more information would be nice, try the
following
> and see what happens:
>
> cat (some *.wav / *.raw file) > /dev/dsp
> lsmod
> ls /lib/modules/(kernel version)/misc
>         (should contain some files like sound.o soundlow.o etc.)
>
> Also what IRQ / DMA / IO settings does the card use.
>
> Daniel Thomas
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<7hn4nq$353$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >How do I enable sound in Linux? I have Mandrake 5.2 (=Redhat 5.2)
with
> >compiled kernel 2.2.5 and KDE 1.1, and also on the same computer SuSE
> >5.3 with kernel 2.0.35 and KDE 1.0. Neither OS has ever made the
> >slightest sound. (Sound is fine under Win95. NT4 is silent too.)
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Stroom)
Subject: Changing from RH to SuSe
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 04:05:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How difficult would it be to upgrade from RH 5.1, 2.0.35, with many
additions in source (i.e. not RPM's), modifications, replacements
of RPM binaries by later compiled binaries from sources etc. to
SuSe 6.1?  I have heard good words about SuSe's quality, and I am a
bit put off by RH's 6.0 price tag here (about US$ 95) vs SuSe's US$
40 or so.

But I do not know if there many problems to be expected due to
difference in /etc, configuration files, etc.

Any advice woud be appreciated.

-- 
Charles Stroom
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
url:   http://www.stroom-schreurs.demon.nl/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: redhat.x.general,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Conner tape drive and Linux?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:28:31 GMT

Does someone know how to use a Conner minicartridge tape drive under
Linux?  Right now, I'm stumbling on even the most basic questions, such
as: How do I mount that thing? How do I write to it and read from it?
And is there any software for tape drives other than tar?

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