Linux-Misc Digest #354, Volume #20 Wed, 26 May 99 07:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box (Sean Yamamoto)
connecting-computers (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte)
smtp without registered domain? (Son Trung Nguyen)
Re: How to Stay Online - ISP Kicks my off during inactivity ("Ron van Middendorp")
Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why???? (Wayne Kovsky)
Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (David Damerell)
***Amateur Radio Site & Linux*** ("Jeffrey M. Swiger")
Re: Iomega products and Linux (Mark Forsyth)
2 modems to provide aggregate bandwidth possible? (no multilink)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Problem with man and compiling, exec and not a directory. (Walter Francis)
Re: Hard drive flipping bits! (David Wilson)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Wireless keyboard works!!! (Claude Chaudet)
Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why???? (Santiago de Pablo)
Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1 ("ed johnson")
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From: Sean Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun things to do with an extra linux box
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:48:23 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerritt Baer) wrote:
> Well, I've found myself with an extra PII/266, and can't find a real
> use for the darn thing. I could install w95 on it to chain my pcs
> together so I can play quake2 with myself, but I was hoping to do
> something more useful/interesting with it. So i've installed SuSE 6.1
> on it yesterday and I'm trying to think of some interesting/fun things
> to do with the box. As, of now, it just sits there doing not much of
> anything :) Anyone have any good ideas?
Write some device drivers for Winmodems. You might be surprised by
the demand for such code.
S.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: connecting-computers
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:58:02 +0200
I'd like to connect another computer (pc under windows or mac) with mine
(linux red-hat) in order to copy or install files exactly in the same
way as I do on my hard disk beetween linux partition and windows
partition. Is that possible? and how?
Could you give me details?
Thank you.
-- Fran�ois Patte. UFR de math�matiques et informatique.
45 rue des St P�res. 75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tel: 01 44 55 35 59 -- Fax: 01 44 55 35 35
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen)
Subject: smtp without registered domain?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:46:51 GMT
Would it be possible to run an smtp server without having a registered
domain name? I mean suppose you can set up a 7/24 connected machine
that has a routable ip. Can I then run an smtp server on such a machine?
I have been pondering about it, but wonder how such a server could
possibly work, if you haven't done shell out your $100 US for a .com domain
name. Would someone please clarify this for me. thanks in advance
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From: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to Stay Online - ISP Kicks my off during inactivity
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:31:56 +0200
Reply-To: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In /etc/ppp/options add the following (or start a background-ping-proces?)
#persist
# Send an LCP echo-request to the peer if no packets are received for n
seconds
# The peer should respond by sending an echo-reply.
# Useful with lcp-echo-failure as a way of detecting if the connection is
lost
# It is also useful to `keep alive' connections when a modem is set to
hangup
# automatically, triggered after inactivity timeout periods
#
lcp-echo-interval 500
# Assume the peer to be dead and terminate the connection if n LCP
# echo-requests are sent without receiving a valid LCP echo-reply.
# The lcp-echo-interval parameter must be non-zero.
# Enables pppd to terminate after the physical connection has been broken;
# eg: hardware modem control lines are not available and the modem has
# (silently) hung up
#
lcp-echo-failure 6
Good luck
Ron
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone out there know of a program that automatically sends out a
> packet every (specified) amount of time?
> My damn ISP kicks me off if I'm inactive for something like 5
> minutes....and it's starting to get annoying. I used to use Netprophet
> for windows....is there something similiar for Linux? Thanks kindly,
>
> Jason
>
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Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:11:39 -0600
From: Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why????
Marlon Deerr wrote:
> I just recently installed RedHat 6.0 and when I log in as a regular user
> and attemp to use my floppy drive with the floppy icon on the desktop, I
> get an error message stating that only root can mount the floppy.
>
> How do I get around this problem as I do not wish to log on a root all
> the time just to use my floppy drive. This never happened to me when I
> was using RedHat 5.2.
Edit your /etc/fstab file, and look for the /dev/fd0 line. It should
look something like this:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto 0 0
Change it to look like this:
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 user,noauto 0 0
For more information and useful options like this, "man fstab" and "man
mount".
--
Wayne Kovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Colorado Software Summit (A Java Programming Conference)
http://www.SoftwareSummit.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: 26 May 1999 11:20:43 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gilles Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell) �crivait/wrote:
>>Well, Debian does speak in terms more or less like this; create
>>partitions, make filesystems, pick mount points. Have you ever installed
>>it?
>No. But that doesn't seem any different from other installations. You
>have to "pick a mount point" using Redhat or Suse just the same.
It shows that you haven't. Try it sometime; Debian provides much more
feedback about the underlying processes.
>What
>I'm talking about is checking what appears in /dev, opening manually
>the mtab, fstab /etc/rc files, modifying them, mounting, umounting,
>etc. all at the prompt without any interface, with clean neat
>instructions.
This is pointless. Novice users don't stand a chance of doing it, and
non-novice users understand it, but won't want all the faffing around.
>>>A friend told me yesterday that Debian's 2.1 has been on freeze since
>>>November and that it is probably as stable as Redhat 6.0 by now...
>>>though it might not offer as many, how should I put it... novelties.
>>This is dramatically inaccurate, I'm afraid. 2.1 moved from 'frozen' to
>>'stable' in March; 2.2 should be frozen pretty soon now.
>Oups! I guess I got this wrong. Usually, if the second figure is odd,
>it's a development version. How come it's not the case with Debian?
Same reason it's not the case for many things besides the kernel. 'Usually'
doesn't quite cut it there; usually, one doesn't follow the kernel's
convention for indicating development versions.
>>>"Factor of 3"? I've got a hard time evaluating this.
>>I don't understand the problem. Red Hat i386 is c. 500Mb of binaries;
>>Debian is c. 1,500Mb.
>What more do you get?
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
There's about 2,200 of them, so I'm not about to type them all in, thank
you.
--
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From: "Jeffrey M. Swiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: ***Amateur Radio Site & Linux***
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:13:36 -0400
This site has plenty of information for the Ham radio user... Take a
look!
http://www.casema.net/~aba/
Just wish someone would do somthing like this for the HP620LX I'm forced
to have. ( Least I'd have a reason to have it on the desk then)....73 de
N8NOE
--
" What A LONG Strange Trip It's Been! "
Jeffrey M. Swiger
*** N8NOE ***
( Linux Redhat 5.1 )
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From: Mark Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Iomega products and Linux
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:58:18 +1000
Sylvia Wong wrote:
>
> On 24 May 1999 22:04:09 -0400, Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >to Iomega ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that if this is the policy
> >they want to adopt then the Linux community will have to consider
> >products from a friendlier company.
>
> I totally agreed with you. I recently bought a zip drive. I knew at that
> time that they're supported under linux (we've them at uni). I read the
> manual and was suprised that other minority OSes are supported (incl os/2
> and mac) but not linux, not even any unixes. I rang the company to tell
> them that this is not good enough and the only respond I get is "we do not
> support unix". I now wonder what would happen if the drive failed while
> it's still under warranty.
I can tell you the answer to that...... BAsically what they say is
'piss off and get a life.' Ioemga products bah...:( piss 'em off
Mark F...
>
> --
> Auckland research student, an endangered species.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://linux.ele.auckland.ac.nz/~swon074
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2 modems to provide aggregate bandwidth possible? (no multilink)
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:12:06 GMT
Here's something I've been thinking about, not sure whether it's been
posted before or not (all posts I checked always dealt with multilink
connections).
Scenario 1: Say I have a linux box with two modems in it. Now say that
my ISP allows multiple logins on the same account and these are dynamic
IP accounts. Is it possible to use each modem to connect to the ISP
using 2 phone lines and somehow "join" the bandwidth of both connections
seamlessly without using multilink (shotgun)? This doesn't have to be
necessarily at the packet level. A program could be written to check the
load on ppp0 and if it is higher than ppp1, send the file through ppp1,
etc. This could be useful in web browsing where for example:
html page with 4 gifs:
(ppp0 and ppp1 idle)
send GET request for gif1 to ppp0
(ppp0 in use, ppp1 idle)
send GET request for gif2 to ppp1
(ppp0 and ppp1 same load)
send GET request for gif3 to ppp0
(ppp0 under heavier load than ppp1)
send GET request for gif4 to ppp1
...etc
Scenario 2: Two linux boxes, one modem on each, one NIC on each, and a
hub. Say each kernel has routing & masquerading support, box1 has
192.1.168.1, box2 192.1.168.2 for the private LAN. Would it be possible
to do something similar to the above, by indicating both .1 and .2 as
gateways on each box? (both box1 and box2 would have 2 entries in route
- .1, .2) Does linux do load balancing if you use multiple routers or is
it like NT where it only uses one gateway unless it fails, then it uses
the next one on the list? Is there any software out there to do this if
not?
If anyone knows that doing something along those lines (both scenarios)
is theoretically possible/impossible let me know (either to ng or
email). Thanks.
-dr0ne
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From: Walter Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with man and compiling, exec and not a directory.
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 03:48:45 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hope that this isn't a repost, as I don't think the original actually
got sent..
Recently I've been having trouble with man and compiling, both give me
messages such as this from man (cmd):
/usr/bin/groff: couldn't exec troff: Not a directory
/usr/bin/groff: couldn't exec grotty: Not a directory
/usr/bin/groff: couldn't exec troff: Not a directory
/usr/bin/groff: couldn't exec grops: Not a directory
Compiling also gives some error messages, relating to exec and not a
directory..
I am using tcsh as my shell, for both my normal userid and root, and it
seems like if I use bash the problem doesn't occur, nor does it occur
while logged in as root.
I have a pretty standard official RedHat 5.2 installation, plus a few
utilities I've added. I haven't upgraded any libraries, glib and such,
but I play on upgrading to 6.0 soon.
It's weird that this stuff started happening, but I can't think of any
turnkey event that might have caused it.. I definately haven't been
doing a lot of work under root for the past 3-4 days, previously I was
installing and setting a lot of stuff up so I stayed logged in as root.
So as far as I know, I haven't done any chmod's on any system files.
If any more information can help I'll send it.
I appreciate any help!!
--
Walter Francis
http://wally.hplx.net Powered by RedHat 5.2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hard drive flipping bits!
Date: 26 May 99 10:08:49 GMT
Andy Bianchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have the following setup:
>- PCChips TXProII (with built in VGA/Sound, I use neither of
> these at the moment) motherboard
>- Pentium P90
>- 32Mb memory, 2.1Gb Quantum Hard drive
>- RedHat5.2
>* The Gigabyte definitely uses Aladdin V chipset (M1543). The
> TXPro reports it's using an SiS 85C5513 although, if my
> memory serves me correctly I've seen posts saying that
> "... can't use UDMA on TXPro ... it uses Aladdin chipset ..."
The TxPro is an Ali chipset while the TxProII is a SiS 5597/8 chipset.
Cat /proc/pci to see.
While the PcChips motherboards have not got a great reputation, I have an M571
TxProII motherboard with an IBM 6x86MX PR200 (75MHz bus) and 48MB 60ns EDO
SIMMs and a Seagate Medalist HDD and it runs Linux (RH5.2) fine.
--
David Wilson School of IT & CS, Uni of Wollongong, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:17:02 GMT
On Tue, 25 May 1999 15:52:25 -0700, Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
>
>Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7idj7f$kpi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>In article <7id6s1$hd8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I guess Ho Chi Mihn wasn't sane, either were the Afgan Rebels that tackled
>>>the Sovs.
>>
>The US wasn't a "First World" Govt? The USSR either?
No.
The US is a New World government, as are Canada and Mexico. (And likely
Central/South American nations.)
I'm less sure of which world the USSR is characterized as; most likely it is
considered part of the Old World.
[People who don't know history...]
>>In the first case, it was a foreign government and in the second, it
>>wasn't a First World government. The situation I describe doesn't apply
>>in either case.
>>
>Both are a case of the local citizenry overthrowing a tyrannical government,
>in what way doesn't that apply to the situation that existed in 1775?
The Vietnam conflict is surprisingly comparable to the one of the 1770s; it
represented a situation of one nation being attacked by a much more powerful
nation that happened to have very long supply lines, and having a powerful
ally that was opposed to the "more powerful nation."
The US had an advantage over England in that it had short supply lines.
That is helpful for a defender.
The US had some support from France, that was a nation "not terribly
friendly to England," also helpful.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: Claude Chaudet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Wireless keyboard works!!!
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:01:07 +0200
>-->The wireless keyboard ("surfboard") that is made by PC CONCEPTS does
>-->work in Linux! I've successfully used it in the Linux OS, running
>-->RedHat 5.2, recompiled with kernel 2.2.7, in both the shell and KDE
>-->environments. The only features that don't work (yet) are the
>-->programmable "hot keys" that work in Windows due to the software drivers
>-->(as yet unavailable in Linux, as far as I know).
Reading this post, I was wondering : why shouldn't it work ? Is any driver
required to type something ?
I think (thought) that from the OS's point of view, the fact that a
keyboard has a wire or not has no importance since it should send
the same signals.
Am I wrong ?
Claude.
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From: Santiago de Pablo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Normal user can't mount floppy on RedHat 6.0..why????
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:23:25 +0200
On Tue, 25 May 1999, Marlon Deerr wrote:
>I just recently installed RedHat 6.0 and when I log in as a regular user
>and attemp to use my floppy drive with the floppy icon on the desktop, I
>get an error message stating that only root can mount the floppy.
>
>How do I get around this problem as I do not wish to log on a root all
>the time just to use my floppy drive. This never happened to me when I
>was using RedHat 5.2.
>
>Thanks!
>
I think is easier and safer to use MTOOLS to access floppies. If any user
can mount floppies, and execute a shell from there with root priviledges,
then he/she gain root identity!
Regards, Santiago.
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From: "ed johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:15:09 +0100
I have tried most linux flavours and have found Suse to be the best of the
bunch so far.
ed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7ieh9v$199$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello.
>
>I did a search for SuSE Linux 6.1 on DejaNews and
>from the results, it seems people have been having
>some major headaches with the new version.
>
>Is the release so bad that I should not install the
>version I bought and return it to the store?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Godfrey Degamo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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