Linux-Misc Digest #371, Volume #20 Thu, 27 May 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Threading ("D. Vrabel")
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Robert Heller)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (gus)
Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it! (Daniel Ganek)
Re: PPP and Fax conflict (Bill Unruh)
Re: Windows/DOS (Adrian Penalo)
Re: Port scanner (fred anger)
edit commands in linux telnet (Buschman)
Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (Tom Jordaan)
Re: Rebuilding SRPMs ("Thomas Svenson")
Raid on Caldera 2.2 (Jeff Dearmin)
Re: statically linked ls binary (Seth Van Oort)
dosemu & TSR print ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RPM Libraries ("Ian Bradbury")
Re: linux excite community (Erik de Castro Lopo)
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Threading
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:21:24 +0100
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Ralph Blach wrote:
> Where Do I find a technical description of the Threading which is in
> Linux?
Do you mean how it works or the API?
If your after the API the kernel threads are standard posix I believe.
Check out:
http://pauillac.inria.fr/~xleroy/linuxthreads/
for more information.
David
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Date: 27 May 1999 19:55:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown),
In a message on 26 May 1999 22:54:01 GMT, wrote :
PB> On Thu, 27 May 1999 00:13:44 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PB> >
PB> >[microemacs] is included in OS-9, too, and they are not selling cheap CDs,
PB> >they want real money for it. So there must be a way...
PB>
PB> I think there is/were multiple distributions of a program called "microemacs".
PB> Would be nice to find out definitively where the OS9 variant comes from.
It is a *very* old version.
PB>
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.help,linux.news.groups,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:54:00 +0100
[everything snipped]
>
> erik olson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik, I recommend that you read the license again....
less /usr/src/linux/COPYING.
Read point 0 and 1.
There is nothing wrong with writing commercial applications for linux
just so long as you do not copy / use / base any code on the *source*
*code* of a GPL program. There is *nothing* wrong with using a GPL
program for what it is desiged for. If I were to wrap a GPL program in a
non-gpl suite, there is nothing stopping me from charging for the
wrapper, just so long as I do not charge for the GPL program.
Finally, there is nothing wrong with wanting to make money. Linux can
and will provide a mechanism for people to benefit financially. (SAP,
Sybase, StarOffice, Applixware, Redhat ...)
It is *not* against the "spirit", "culture", or license of Linux.
gus
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From: Daniel Ganek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and it takes the whole machine with it!
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:00:27 -0400
Jerome Mrozak wrote:
>
> Do-Hoon Kwon wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > Thanks for you reply.
> > I have all the above items configured right as a matter of fact and I'm
> > sure that it's not netscape directly responsible for the hang. It might
> > have
> > triggered it, though.
> > I mean a *complete* lockup. No response to keyboard, mouse, net
> > connection,
> > etc. It even doesn't response to ping.
> > Come to think of it, I don't think I had this kind of lockups before I
> > added
> > a second NIC. Beginning to suspect tulip driver.... or my cheap PNIC
> > cards...
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Do-Hoon Kwon
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm pretty much a newbie to Linux, but I thought you couldn't crash the
> machine with an application. Or, putting it another way, what things
> (drivers, etc.) can crash a Linux system if written/installed wrong?
>
> Jerome.
Obviously, anything that's installed in the kernel can crash the machine.
UNIX is not exactly a robust operating system and even mundane application
programs can hang the machine by tying up system resources. A classic case
is filling the disk up - that's why certain directories are put in separate
partitions; e.g /tmp, /var, /home, etc. Network apps (netscape:-)can chew
up kernel buffers under some conditions. And don't talk to me about X-Windows.
/dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP and Fax conflict
Date: 27 May 1999 17:44:41 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> carl <#[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Reason the fax listen software is always attached to the modem. When
>linux is started the fax listening software is started. If I kill the
>fax listener (gettyfax?) and rename the file to a different name, PPP
>works fine.
Some fax software obeys the lock convention. Ie, try putting the
lock
option into for example /etc/ppp/options.
The fax getty may if it notices some stuff happening on the line, look
for the lock file before it tries to answer the line and grab the fax.
This is how mgetty for example works.d
Arfe you really receiving faxes on your modem. If you are just sending
them, then the faxgetty should not need to run.
But it all depends on exactly which fax software you are running.
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From: Adrian Penalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Windows/DOS
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:43:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Joshua E. Rodd" wrote:
>
> (WFW3.1 is a terrible, terrible beast.)
Why? I use to like it a lot. At least I always knew where
DOS and Windows were.
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From: fred anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Port scanner
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:40:24 GMT
nmap is a good one.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, dumb questions and I'm sure I already know the answer. We have
a
> customer who wants to have a static IP address, but we are concerned
> that he would try to run a server on his side and with a simple
dial-up
> account, that falls into a different payment bracket. To make sure
that
> he doesn't run a server on his end and stays compliant with the
> agreement, I'd like to know a useful port scanner application out
there
> that would check the ports on an IP address. A GUI interface would
work
> well, but it doesn't have to be GUI.
> Thanks.
>
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From: Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: edit commands in linux telnet
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:45:00 GMT
This is farely simple question. In windows my telnet sessions have edit
commands(cut,copy,paste) however my linux telnet sessions do not. How
does one take text from a document or web browser, for example, and
paste them into telnet?
Mike B.
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From: Tom Jordaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: 26 May 1999 09:59:42 GMT
Gilles Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell) �crivait/wrote:
>>Well, Debian does speak in terms more or less like this; create
>>partitions, make filesystems, pick mount points. Have you ever installed
>>it?
> No. But that doesn't seem any different from other installations. You
> have to "pick a mount point" using Redhat or Suse just the same. What
> I'm talking about is checking what appears in /dev, opening manually
> the mtab, fstab /etc/rc files, modifying them, mounting, umounting,
> etc. all at the prompt without any interface, with clean neat
> instructions.
(Um, should you be fiddling with mtab manually?)
>>>No. I don't care about the version numbers but about the kernel and
>>>librairies installed.
>>>A friend told me yesterday that Debian's 2.1 has been on freeze since
>>>November and that it is probably as stable as Redhat 6.0 by now...
>>>though it might not offer as many, how should I put it... novelties.
>>
>>This is dramatically inaccurate, I'm afraid. 2.1 moved from 'frozen' to
>>'stable' in March; 2.2 should be frozen pretty soon now.
> Oups! I guess I got this wrong. Usually, if the second figure is odd,
> it's a development version. How come it's not the case with Debian?
That's the Linux kernel you're thinking of. Debian's never had this
policy because unstable versions aren't released on CD until they're
stable.
>> I haven't yet
>>looked at RedHat 6, but if it's of the same quality as 5.0, I imagine that
>>Debian 2.2 is already more stable, let alone 2.1.
> If I ever stay with Linux, I'll give Debian a try, but I'll wait for
> version 2.2.
By which time, Debian's entire binary set will probably be on four CDs
rather than the current three...
[...]
> (Do some work with the machine, else than administering it, you
> know.)
Get X working - easy, provided you don't tell it you've got a better
monitor than you have - then make sure the /etc/X11/config file does
not contain "no-start-xdm". Use fvwm, as it supports Debian's menuing
system, and then you'll find every package listed on fvwm's menu,
with new ones appearing after installation and a restart of fvwm.
I suppose, for user friendliness, this is what Debian should be aiming
for - and with Corel's user-friendly modification to the installation
process in progress, could well manage it soon.
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From: "Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rebuilding SRPMs
Date: 27 May 99 22:26:55 +0200
On 26-Maj-99 21:59:47, Johan Kullstam wrote about Re: Rebuilding SRPMs
>"Thomas Svenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Do you have any suggestions about the best default option for K6, Pentium
>> and Pentium II/III?
>the classic pentium requires some bizzare scheduling stunts.
>compiling for a pentium target will hurt performance on the
>p-pro/ii/iii and vice versa. if you want the *same* binary to run on
>*both* classic pentium and ppro, just compile for i486.
Well, I don't have a Ppro. Right now the machines used for Linux is one K6-200
(the first model) and a P120. I will probably add other boxes later, and those
will either be PII/III or K6-x.
Right now I just use i586 -O2 as optflags for the compiling.
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From: Jeff Dearmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Raid on Caldera 2.2
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:26:07 -0400
I've installed OpenLinux 2.2, and am trying to configure 3 6.2 Gig
IDE disk drives for Raid 5. I've tried downloading "raidtools-0.9"
from Sunsite, but still get errors trying to configure the drives.
The RAID modules (raid0.o, raid1.o, and raid5.o) are all installed,
A "cat /proc/mdstat" does not show any obvious errors:
Personalities : [2 raid0] [3 raid1] [4 raid5]
read_ahead not set
md0 : inactive
md1 : inactive
md2 : inactive
md3 : inactive
The "/etc/raidtab" looks like the sample from "raidtools":
# Sample raid-5 configuration
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 5
nr-raid-disks 3
chunk-size 4
# Parity placement algorithm
#parity-algorithm left-asymmetric
#
# the best one for maximum performance:
#
parity-algorithm left-symmetric
#parity-algorithm right-asymmetric
#parity-algorithm right-symmetric
# Spare disks for hot reconstruction
#nr-spare-disks 0
device /dev/hdb1
raid-disk 0
device /dev/hdc1
raid-disk 1
device /dev/hdd1
raid-disk 2
A "mkraid /dev/md0" produces:
handling MD device /dev/md0
analyzing super-block
disk 0: /dev/hdb1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
disk 1: /dev/hdc1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
disk 2: /dev/hdd1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
mkraid: aborted
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: statically linked ls binary
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:15:01 -0500
Ted George wrote:
>
> thanks for the offer. i have the srpm, and also downloaded the
> latest ver of the fileutils. tried modifying LDFLAGS = -Bstatic
This is kind of bad nomenclature. The LDFLAGS actually gets passed to
gcc so you should just set it to '-static'.
(Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!! right ?)
Seth
> in the src dir Makefile, and a few other blind mods but have not
> had any success. it just builds normally and ignores the static
> flag. although i have noticed that the resulting binary is much
> larger, but still dynamically linked and works the same.
>
> would greatly appreciate any other pointers on how to modify
> to build the static binaries. thanks
>
> ted
>
> Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I could send you one. I just statically compiled ls, cp, rm, ln ... good
> > things to have. Otherwise you can get the fileutils SRPM and change the
> > flag to compile statically.
> >
> > Seth
> >
> >
> > Ted George wrote:
> > >
> > > hello,
> > >
> > > does anyone know where to find a statically linked ls binary for a
> > > redhat-5.2 system. we are setting up chroot ftp and trying not to have
> to
> > > copy the libc.so.6 to each chrooted home dir for the dynamically linked
> ls
> > > to work properly.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > ted
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dosemu & TSR print
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:09 GMT
I am wanting to use a dos TSR as a print filter. running DOSEMU .99 on
RedHat 6.0.
DOS TSR works by monitoring a port like LPT2 or COM3 for ascii files
printed to those ports, captures the info and outputs laser
/forms/fonts on another LPT port like LPT1.
Can someone give me help on :
1. Can't get TSR running on dosemu without crashing. Cannot find any
info on TSR's and DOSEMU.
2. How to have linux output piped to the phantom COM3 port of the
DOSEMU package so the TSR would see it, take the print stream, process
and out to LPT1.
3. How to get rid of time and date prompts in dos when started in
DOSEMU.
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From: "Ian Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM Libraries
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:55:59 GMT
Jason I have exactly the same problem - I have used archie to attempt to
find my dependencies but with no luck!
Where and how do you find the rpm's with libFnlib.so.2, libttf.so.2....etc,
etc.
chromedome
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm thinking of installing a CVS version of a program...and this, in
> general requires the absolute latest versions of sets of libraries (not
> in general supported but the actual developers?...or am I off on
> this?). Are these daily newest libraries a good idea to install or are
> they considered dangerously unstable?
> Secondly, when one tries to install a given RPM file and it
> comes back saying:
>
> libORBit.so.0 is needed by x11amp-0.9beta1.1-19990519cvs1
> libORBitCosNaming.so.0 is needed by
> x11amp-0.9beta1.1-19990519cvs1
> libart_lgpl.so.2 is needed by x11amp-0.9beta1.1-19990519cvs1
> libgnome.so.32 is needed by x11amp-0.9beta1.1-19990519cvs1
>
> etc., say.
>
> How does one know where to get the rpm's that contain
> these libraries (or at least the names of the rpms that contain
> them)?...or if not rpms...how to find out the name of
> the gzip files in which these files reside? Much thanks
> in advance,
>
> Jason
>
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: linux excite community
Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:25:27 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> There is a moderated excite community that has just started up.
>
> go to
> http://mycomm.excite.com/mycomm/browse.asp?cid=.ZSasUdYMCjL
>
> to join.
>
> You'll miss all those commercial advertisements though.
Or better yet, find an ISP that filters the spam out of their
newsfeed so their users never see it. Usenet with filtering
is always going to be 100x better than any poxy web based
forum.
Erik
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