Linux-Misc Digest #371, Volume #26 Wed, 22 Nov 00 17:13:02 EST
Contents:
The Perfect Christmas Gift 5251 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot)
Re: E-mail client (Reiner Griess)
Re: documentation for LaTeX (John Thompson)
Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (John Thompson)
Re: Star Office (John Thompson)
Re: depmod: unresolved symbols in 2.2.17 (Andy Smith)
finding error messages (Dirk Groeneveld)
compiling xamp (Ralph Blach)
free internet telephony for linux ("Raibatak Das")
Re: SCO 'tar' media with Linux? (Paul Sherwin)
LOCAL: Dec 5 LUGOD Meeting: Sourceforge. Plus: Palm V giveaway. (LUGOD Chairperson)
HELP: access denied on HP2100TN printer (Tobias Vancura)
gnome keeps crashing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
want to learn assembly language on linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can I use another distro's kernel? ("lobotomy")
Xview Headers (Kyle Parfrey)
Re: E-mail client ("Garry Knight")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The Perfect Christmas Gift 5251
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:16:39 GMT
Two days ago I ordered 10 pieces of paper money from 10 different countries from a
company called Perth Numismatics. Lo and behold they arrived today and they are very
nice and colourful. They even have a bill from Antarctica. I didn't even know they
existed. These are perfect for stocking stuffers or people who are hard to buy for.
The website address is www.perthmoney.com
Good luck and Merry Christmas
Cynthia Reeves
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot)
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:15:09 -0500
Since you have partition magic , you should be OK.
make a 5, 10 or 20 mb partition at the beginging of the drive ( Primary) .
If you have PM 5.0 you can format it as an ext2 partition from it. If not,
let the linux installer format it, but make it ( unformatted perhaps? )
Now Make a 2 gig partition for win2000 ( primary, fat16/32 ) just after
it - win2k install takes off about 1 gig at home.
Now grab the remainder as an extended partition, and make linux partitions
if in PM 5.0, ( 2 gig root should be ok , 2x memory as swap etc).
Then set the win2000 partition as active , install win2k.
Get back into PM.
Set your *little primary* partition as active, boot linux install, and mount
the little partition on /boot . Proceed as usual, assigning disk space from
extended for root, and swap.
When it asks you where to put lilo tell it to put it into first sector of
/dev/hda1 ( the little ext2 partition. ) , and *not* into the MBR. More on
that soon. Complete the install and let it reboot.
When you boot, hit Tab, and you should see "Linux and "dos" or what ever you
called your win2k partition. I call mine NT5
Now once more, boot partition magic and "unhide" the win2000 partition.
Reboot, and this time, tell lilo to load NT or "dos" if you left it that
way..
It should be loading.
Why not install lilo into the MBR ?
It has to do with having independant OS'es running.
Your boot block boots any active partition that is marked as such.
Eg :
At home I have this config:
hda1 : /boot with lilo in first sector Active
hda2 : win2000 (NT5) on ntfs 5.0 Bootable
hda3 : Win98 fat32 Bootable
hda4 : Extended
lilo asks me:
LILO:
linux nt5 win98
Now for some reason,let's say I dd'ed 2 megs of 0's onto the hda1 partition
and destroyed lilo and the kernel file accidentally . I can't boot the
computer right ?
Wrong. get the partition magic disk, set win2000 as the active one, and
reboot.Win2000 comes up . I can boot 98 or win2000 from the NT loader,
download tom's root/boot disk and repair the damage.
Or say win2000 dies. I can still use lilo to boot win98.
Or say I remove Redhat from the hdd ( which if you put lilo into mbr would
require "fdisk /mbr" to remove ). I can still use the system.
hth.
Brando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I have a 6 GB HD (Laptop) and I want to dual boot Linux and Win2K. I have
a fresh disk to
> install on so I don't have to save any data.
>
> What's the best way to go about doing this? Which OS should I install
first and how should
> I set up the partitions. I want about 2.5 GB for Windoze and 3.5 for
Linux. I do have
> Partition Magic.
>
> Thanx
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From: Reiner Griess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:16:18 +0100
On 22 Nov 2000 14:36:53 GMT, LuisMiguel Figueiredo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|I need a good email client for X11. What should i use? and why?
|
|tanx in advance,
|
|
|+--------------------------------+
||elmig |
||http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
||Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
|+--------------------------------+
do you want a nice graphical interface? and additionally a lot of
usefull functions (like Windows TheBat! proggi)? sorry, but I don't
think that there is such a thing at this time. check out helixcode. i
think they are building a full functional graphical mail proggi.
xfmail is old and not that nice looking. kmail is maybe beautiful, but
has not somuch funtion.
bye
reiner
-- when I'm wrong, let me now!
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: documentation for LaTeX
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:48:06 -0600
Dan Allen wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a good starter documentation for LaTeX. I don't
> doubt that it is already on my computer, but I am just wondering which
> particular one is best to start with. It might even help if you could
> give me a webpage link for the most recent version.
Head over to http://freshmeat.net and search for "tetex."
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:59:59 -0600
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> Dances With Crows wrote:
[...]
> > tunelp /dev/lp0 -T on
> >
> > Try that and see.
> tunelp is not on my system. At another person's suggestion, I made my
I have tunelp here, but it doesn't recognize the "-T" switch.
I've tried this code to toggle IRQ printing here and it seems to
work:
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <sys/ioctl.h>
#define LPTRUSTIRQ 0x060f
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
int fd = open("/dev/lp0", O_RDONLY);
ioctl(fd, LPTRUSTIRQ, argc - 1);
if (argc - 1)
printf("trusting the irq\n");
else
printf("untrusting the irq\n");
return 0;
}
I don't remember where I got it, so unfortunately I can't make a
proper attibution to the author; sorry. Just compile it and put
a line in your rc.local to run it when the system comes up.
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
>
> I then did:
>
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd stop
> /sbin/rmmod -a
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/lpd start
>
> This reduced the system time somewhat. Now it seems the gs process (converts
> from postscript to Hewlett Packard Deskjet 660Cse code) is what hogs the CPU;
> it uses mostly system time, which confuses me. If I did a lot of printing, I
> would get a postscript printer, I guess. I wonder if they make cheap ones at
> least as good as the 660Cse (the minimum tolerable quality, I guess).
Have you tried renice-ing the gs process to a lower priority? It
might take a little longer to print but should leave the system
usable while it's working anyway.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:06:33 -0600
Myriam Abramson wrote:
> Does anybody know of a newsgroup or mailing list for Star Office?
The official StarOffice news server is starnews.sun.com. I'm not
sure if OpenOffice has a news server or news groups yet.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Smith)
Subject: Re: depmod: unresolved symbols in 2.2.17
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:34:45 GMT
If you are not having any problems as a result of unresolved symbols
just tell depmod to be quiet. Edit the rc file that runs depmod at
boot time and add a -q to the depmod options. Most of the RH flavors
(Red Hat, Mandrake, et al) start depmod in "/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit" I
think.
Andy
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:31:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I've compiled my own 2.2.17 kernel under RH6.2,
>i.e. got the source from kernel.org, then
>make mrproper, make xconfig, make dep, make clean,
>make bzImage, make modules, move old modules
>out of the way, make modules_install, copy new
>kernel to boot, run lilo etc.
>
>When booting the new kernel, I get lots of
>depmod: Unresolved dependencies messages.
>
>depmod -a gives:
>/sbin/depmod -a
>Warning: modutils is reading from /etc/conf.modules because
> /etc/modules.conf does not exist. The use of /etc/conf.modules
>is
> deprecated, please rename /etc/conf.modules to
>/etc/modules.conf
> as soon as possible. Command
> mv /etc/conf.modules /etc/modules.conf
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/aten.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/bpck.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/comm.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/dstr.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/epat.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/epia.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/fit2.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/fit3.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/friq.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/frpw.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/kbic.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/ktti.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/on20.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/on26.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/pcd.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/pd.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/pf.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/pg.o
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/pt.o
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks
>
>Tom
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: finding error messages
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:07:31 +0100
Hi!
Some packages (X, for example) don't stop immediately after encountering
a compile-error during "make" or "make World". You end up having a
half-compiled program and the only way to find out what went wrong is
wading through the logfiles.
Is there some pattern to grep for in a build-logfile that finds out what
went wrong?
To make things clearer:
grep -n <pattern> <logfile>
What does pattern have to look like to make the output show me the line
numbers of the errors?
"error" is a try, but it usally finds all the error-handling modules of
the package as well.
"Error" seems to be no better.
Thanx, Dirk
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From: Ralph Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: compiling xamp
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:49:35 -0500
good morning,
I just loaded qt.1.45 up on my redhat 6.2 system and tried to build
xamp.
I got this result from the link step.
gcc -I.. -o xamp ../dump.o ../formats.o ../getbits.o ../huffman.o
../layer3.o ../getdata.o ../misc2.o ../transform.o ../args.o ../buffer.o
../audioIO.o ../position.o ../layer2.o ../rtbuf.o ../guicontrol.o
../util.o ../getopt.o ../getopt1.o QtAMP.o QtAMPData.o mQtAMP.o
mQtAMPData.o plDlg.o plDlgData.o mplDlg.o mplDlgData.o main.o
QMyListBox.o mQMyListBox.o QScrLabel.o mQScrLabel.o pixmaps.o about.o
aboutData.o mabout.o maboutData.o backs.o -L/usr/lib/qt/lib -lm -lqt
QtAMP.o: In function `QtAMP::QtAMP(QWidget *, char const *)':
QtAMP.o(.text+0x21): undefined reference to `QtAMP::QPaintDevice virtual
table'
QtAMP.o(.text+0x28): undefined reference to `QtAMP virtual table'
QtAMP.o: In function `QSplashBox::QSplashBox(void)':
QtAMP.o(.text+0x275a): undefined reference to `QSplashBox::QPaintDevice
virtual table'
QtAMP.o(.text+0x2761): undefined reference to `QSplashBox virtual table'
QtAMP.o: In function `QtAMP::~QtAMP(void)':
QtAMP.o(.text+0x2d24): undefined reference to `QtAMP::QPaintDevice
virtual table'
QtAMP.o(.text+0x2d2b): undefined reference to `QtAMP virtual table'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
How do I get rid of these and get xamp to link?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
--
Ralph "Chip" Blach
KF4WBK
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
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From: "Raibatak Das" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: free internet telephony for linux
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:46:06 +0500
hi!
i was wondering if anyone is aware of any good website that offeres
free internet telephony for linux (in the spirit of
www.hottelephone.com or www. deltathree.com etc.)
thanks.
raibatak.
=====================================================================
RAIBATAK DAS
Graduate Student Telephone : 1-607-255-4848
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology 1-607-255-6141
P.O. Box # 178
Baker Laboratories, E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cornell University.
Ithaca, NY 14853.
=====================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCO 'tar' media with Linux?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:08:48 GMT
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:19:27 GMT, fred smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>You may be able to install the iBCS2 module on your LInux and bring over
>a tar from a SCO system to use. Haven't tried it myself.
>
I have, and couldn't get it to work. I think this may be because lots
of SCO utilities use a runtime library. It could probably be made to
work with lots of fiddling around if it was important enough.
Best regards, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.psherwin.strayduck.com
Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager +44 (0)7666 797228
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From: LUGOD Chairperson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Dec 5 LUGOD Meeting: Sourceforge. Plus: Palm V giveaway.
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,sac.announce,sacramento.internet,sac.general,sac.internet
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:59:24 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:
Tuesday
December 5, 2000
6:30pm - 9:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
The topic will be:
SourceForge
presented by Jim Kingdon, Geoff Herteg & Matt Snelham
of VA Linux Systems
SourceForge is a free service to Open Source software developers,
offering easy access to the best in source code versioning tools,
mailing lists, bug tracking systems, online message forums,
task management, site hosting, permanent file archival, full backups,
and total web-based administration.
Jim Kingdon will present general information about SourceForge.
Matt Snelham and Geoff Herteg will discuss their customization
of SourceForege for some of VA Linux Systems' clients.
Also at this meeting:
LUGOD will be raffling off a Palm V handheld computing device!
Arrive on time to make sure you get a chance to win!
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System, and which meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Vancura)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: HELP: access denied on HP2100TN printer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Nov 2000 22:15:03 +0100
Hello everybody,
Sorry for beeing a little off topic, but I thought that the
Linux geeks might know best...
I am quite desperate at the moment and therefore I am
eagerly awaiting your answers. Here is my problem:
We have an HP2100TN printer, on which I updated the firmware
to the newest version, 0.8.xxx. Then I wanted to set the
access list such that only computers from our subnet have
access. This worked fine for one host by giving the very ip
of this host. Then I wanted to include the whole subnet by
issueing
allow: xxx.yyy.zzz.0
which the printer happily accepted, but since that moment, I
have not heard a word from the printer anymore. Obviously
the syntax for the subnet was wrong. I only get a connection
refused error.
What do I have to do. PLEASE HELP, they are going to kill me
tomorrow. Thanks a lot, if you could please cc your post
directly to my email,
cheers, Tobias
--
**********************************************************************
Tobias Vancura Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:45:25 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: gnome keeps crashing
hi
recently, gnome keeps crashing and X windows shuts down as well. the
following line gets logged in syslog:
Nov 22 23:38:07 localhost gnome-name-server[15630]: input condition is:
0x10, exiting
What would cause input condition 0x10 and how can i fix this problem?
btw, i'm using gnome+enlightenment from slackware 7.1
thanks
ali
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:51:31 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: want to learn assembly language on linux
hi
i want to learn assembly language for x86. will someone pls recommend a
good assembly tutorial and a good (preferably easy to use) assembler for
linux. I'm already familiar with high level programming (C, perl etc)
and i'd like to get into the more nitty gritty stuff
thanks
ali
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use another distro's kernel?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:37:21 GMT
The kernel is the kernel, and the source from any distro will build
anywhere else. Each distributor might have some patches applied that
aren't on the standard kernel but this won't prevent it from working on
any other system.
However, the pctel driver with Corel isn't included in the kernel, as it
is binary only and not part of the kernel tree. You can re-glue it to
any kernel by running 'make' inside the installation directory, although
I could never get it to work with anything newer than 2.2.14. The only
hope is that there is some kind of patch applied by Corel to their kernel
that fixes the issues between the pctel and serial drivers. In that
case, if you can install it (it is a deb package so you might need to
look around for a converter to install it on Mandrake), it might help.
In article <8vbgfp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A friend just gave me a Corel Linux CD, supposedly built off of Debian,
> with a kernel having a higher release level than mine. I currently have
> Mandrake 6.0 with the 2.2-13mdk. WOuld it be possible to "import" the
> kernel? Should I get the source and recompile on my machine?
>
> I ask this because the CD claims it supports HSP modems right out of the
> box. And for the longest time, I've been trying to get mine to work
> using pctel.o but somehow insmod isn't enough (IRQ? who knows?) to get
> it working. Thanks for any help, I'd really like to avoid a complete
> reinstall
>
--
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Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple =
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed
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From: Kyle Parfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xview Headers
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:05:26 GMT
Hey all:
I'm trying to install a program that needs xviews headers (well the
files it
needs end in .h) Examples are panel.h , notify.h and xview.h. I've
install it
from rpm and downloaded the source and they aren't in either. Does
anyone
know were I can find them . I need the following:
xview/cms.h
xview/xview.h
xview/canvas.h
xview/panel.h
xview/xv_xrect.h
xview/notify.h
xview/svrimage.h
xview/icon.h
Thanks all,,
Kyle
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:07:27 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <_yRS5.4248$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jan
Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * "LuisMiguel Figueiredo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I need a good email client for X11.
> Kmail is supposed to be rather functional, as well.
The new KDE2 version is very functional, but the old KDE1 version is
very basic.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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