Linux-Misc Digest #398, Volume #20 Sat, 29 May 99 10:13:31 EDT
Contents:
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer (NEWS)
Re: Linux PPP (NEWS)
Problem with login to sys (NEWS)
Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1 (NEWS)
Re: RedHat 6.0 - C compil (NEWS)
Linux Read win95/98 Long (NEWS)
Raid on Caldera 2.2 (NEWS)
Re: "tcp/:7100" Not avai (NEWS)
Anyone got corrupted cons (NEWS)
Re: Does this OS exist? (NEWS)
Re: Netscape crashes and (NEWS)
Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluat (NEWS)
Re: PPP under RedHat 6.0 (NEWS)
Building a Virtual Compor (NEWS)
RH6.0 & General Linux Que (NEWS)
Re: ip masquerading fine (NEWS)
Re: PPP and Fax conflict (NEWS)
Re: A Capitalists view of (NEWS)
Re: Iomega products and L (NEWS)
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer
Date: 27 May 1999 01:32 GMT
On 26 May 1999 22:53:04 GMT, Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 May 1999 22:59:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>...
>>According to Dan, even companies doing $2 CD's count as "commercial use"
>>of his code, ignoring that the $2 CD's are loss leaders to get sales on
>>books, t-shirts, stuffed penguins, etc, and that the $50 distributions
>>are selling the support, the pretty box and 'convenience' of buying it
>>from a bookstore.... not the software at all.
>
>I agree with Dan on the last point. THere's no way someone isn't making money
>off the $50 distributions, unless they are grossly incompetant.
That's not the point.
The question is not whether profit is being made, it is what the profit
is on, as compared to Dan's desires.
<aside>
The claim that $2 CDs are "loss leaders" is not correct, by the way; the
thing about them is that they aren't moneymakers for the vendors unless
they're selling a whole spindle of them at a shot.
My local LUG (NTLug) buys on the order of a hundred of the "$2 CDs" each
month, and in those kinds of quantities, LinuxCentral is able to parlay
the (probable) $1.25 or so that they make on each one into a
*reasonable* amount of profit.
</aside>
The question of *how much* is made is not the question.
The question is of whether there is commercial intent. If the answer is
"yes," then MicroEmacs may not be included. Period.
--
We come to bury DOS, not to praise it.
(Paul Vojta, [EMAIL PROTECTED], paraphrasing a quote of Shakespeare)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux PPP
Date: 27 May 1999 00:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:May 26 12:43:27 localhost pppd[230]: pppd 2.3.3 started by root, uid 0
<snip>
:May 26 12:43:42 localhost chat[231]: expect (name:)
So far so good -- your end now expects to receive "name:".
:May 26 12:43:42 localhost chat[231]: 33600/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M
:May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: ^M
:May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: Welcome to 3Com Total Control HiPer
:ARC (TM)^M
:May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: Networks That Go The Distance (TM)^M
:May 26 12:43:43 localhost chat[231]: ^M
:May 26 12:43:47 localhost chat[231]: alarm
It still hasn't received "name:", so it alarms.
:May 26 12:43:47 localhost pppd[230]: Connect script failed
:May 26 12:43:47 localhost chat[231]: Failed
:May 26 12:43:48 localhost pppd[230]: Exit.
Game over.
:My /etc/ppp/chatscript looks like:
<snip>
:CONNECT ""
:TIMEOUT 5
:"name:" ppp
:
:My pap-secrets file is the standard: username * password
Your chat script is expecting to receive "name:", but it never arrives.
You've got a strange mixture of scripted and PAP authentication. If your
ISP does PAP, rewrite the last three lines of your chat script as simply:
CONNECT '\d\c'
If you want to understand this (or it still doesn't work), I suggest Bill
Unruh's "How to hook up PPP" at
<http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html>.
Good luck.
Ian
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with login to sys
Date: 27 May 1999 13:02 GMT
Hi,
I have RedHat Linux 5.1 with 2.0.36 Kernel
Yesterday something happend and then nobody can login into system.
Only root can login and users from group root.
when somebody tries to connect via telnet he login and see the message: "no
home directory" and system logoff the user.
If root tries to do su user, then the message "can't run /bin/bash".
Permissions are done to the bash, passwd etc.
Permission to the /bin/bash is done, but what else can be wrong.
Have you any ideas??
--
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About SuSE Linux 6.1
Date: 27 May 1999 02:02 GMT
I agree. I am using both SuSE 6.0 and SuSE 6.1. 6.0 is a rock and
I have had very few problems with it. 6.1 is quite good also. I have
not been using it as long so cannot speak to any major problems but
6.1 is a joy compared to RH6.0. I have nothing but minor problems
with RH 6.0. The worst being my gnome desktop keeps crashing when
ever I open the CDROM door. It is a scsi cdrom but SuSE has no
problems with it. And the Xserver for the ATI card I have looks great
under SuSE but crappy under RH6.0. Same Xserver same resolution and
color depth. If I didn't need to do some configuration testing with
RH6.0
I wouldn't use it. And SuSE is less than half the price of RH.
>
> I don't think so. I find SuSE6.1 as good as any and better than most. The
> amount of included software is superb, and config. tools are pretty good.
> Sure, SuSE6.1 has its quirks and bugs -- but so does any distro. In my
> hands, I've found SuSE far better than RH -- although I will stand corrected
> if someone could tell me how to stop RH continually freezing my system
> (440LX P11-300 128MB 12GB SBPro AGP Viper330)
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7ieh9v$199$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello.
> >
> > I did a search for SuSE Linux 6.1 on DejaNews and
> > from the results, it seems people have been having
> > some major headaches with the new version.
> >
> > Is the release so bad that I should not install the
> > version I bought and return it to the store?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -Godfrey Degamo
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
> > ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.---
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 - C compil
Date: 28 May 1999 08:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"A. W. Ray" wrote:
>
>> /configure
>>
>
>> checking for gcc... gcc
>> checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no
>> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create
>executables.
>
>I am not a pro of compilation under linux, but I think your trying to compile your
>app with
>gcc while red-hat 6.0 does not supply it. I think that if you edit your Makefile and
>replace
>all "gcc" by "egcs" it would work better.
When you install the egcs package from redhat you'll get the gcc, egcs,
and cc commands all refering to the very same compiler. Therefore it
shouldn't matter if you use gcc or egcs or cc to run your compiler. Maybe
the egcs package wasn't installed, or the directory is writeprotected,
or something else. The config procedure will usually create enough output
trace files to tell.
Villy
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Read win95/98 Long
Date: 27 May 1999 16:47 GMT
Is there a trick or utility to enable Linux to see the full extended file
name used by windows on my FAT partitions instead of cutting it off with a
tilde?
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Raid on Caldera 2.2
Date: 27 May 1999 17:47 GMT
I've installed OpenLinux 2.2, and am trying to configure 3 6.2 Gig
IDE disk drives for Raid 5. I've tried downloading "raidtools-0.9"
from Sunsite, but still get errors trying to configure the drives.
The RAID modules (raid0.o, raid1.o, and raid5.o) are all installed,
A "cat /proc/mdstat" does not show any obvious errors:
Personalities : [2 raid0] [3 raid1] [4 raid5]
read_ahead not set
md0 : inactive
md1 : inactive
md2 : inactive
md3 : inactive
The "/etc/raidtab" looks like the sample from "raidtools":
# Sample raid-5 configuration
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 5
nr-raid-disks 3
chunk-size 4
# Parity placement algorithm
#parity-algorithm left-asymmetric
#
# the best one for maximum performance:
#
parity-algorithm left-symmetric
#parity-algorithm right-asymmetric
#parity-algorithm right-symmetric
# Spare disks for hot reconstruction
#nr-spare-disks 0
device /dev/hdb1
raid-disk 0
device /dev/hdc1
raid-disk 1
device /dev/hdd1
raid-disk 2
A "mkraid /dev/md0" produces:
handling MD device /dev/md0
analyzing super-block
disk 0: /dev/hdb1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
disk 1: /dev/hdc1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
disk 2: /dev/hdd1, 6297448kB, raid superblock at 6297344kB
mkraid: aborted
Any help is greatly appreciated!
--
Jeff Dearmin
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "tcp/:7100" Not avai
Date: 28 May 1999 02:32 GMT
Hi Glenn,
I don't have xfs running as far as I can tell, just xfstt.
Glenn wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> Wouldn't it be better to reomve xfs so there is only one font server or is
> there no problem and no reason to do this? I just run with xfsft and all seems
> well.
>
> Glenn
> --------
>
> Ray wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:42:13 +0000, Joseph White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >I'm trying to get xfstt font server working on my Redhat 5.1
> > >system. I'm using Accelerated-X 4.1.2 and in there
> > >instructions there web site (see below) they say to add
> > >"tcp/:7100" to the [FontPath] section of the Xaccel.ini
> > >file. Then run xfstt --sync and then start it with xfstt&.
> > >My problem is when I start the xfstt server it reports "Port
> > >7100 not available please select another Port".
> > >
> > >Any idea what it is referring to? Or what what other port
> > >number I could use.
> >
> > Sounds like xfs is already running on port 7100. xfstt should then be run
> > on 7101.
> >
> > --
> > Ray
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone got corrupted cons
Date: 27 May 1999 00:17 GMT
Hello out there!
I lately experienced a strange error (in / with ?) kernel 2.2.7 (2.2.5):
After installing three md devices (working fine) I wanted to check
whether or not a swapping system feels more 'useable' afterwards. So I
started a lot of fat things and filled up my RAM (128M) and swapspace
(2*128M). As with earlier kernels, the system then holds still for a
couple of minutes, then kills the whole X session and returns to the
(graphical) login promt. So far all that was just as usual (footnote: I
often work w/ perl-scripts computing picture data and you should read
the perl-manpage (search for 'tradeoff' in the perlfaq-manpages)). But
when I returned to the console, some characters were transformed into
single-pixel-width-vertical-lines. Since then it stays that way.
Anyone who has experienced the same problem?
Marc
PS: I don't want to reboot, and the reason why I don't know whether I
use 2.2.5 or 2.2.7 is that although I compiled and installed 2.2.7 (and
2.2.9 by now) I do not know if I rebooted since... And I cannot go and
have a look at /proc/version, because I have a broken leg
(oooooooooohhhhhhhhhh - yes thanks)
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does this OS exist?
Date: 28 May 1999 08:02 GMT
DOS ver 7 aka Windows95/98/2000 hopefuly booted in non graphical
mode. Looks and behaves like an invalid.
Linux is: 32 bit
runs on single processor (old PC's)
uses protected mode (there is version for 286 - but never
seen it working)
if you do not install x-windows and ncurses you have two
color
screen (it's called monochrome).
at minimum two users: root (the almighty) and the actual
person
banging on the keyboard, any other combination invites
disaster.
someone smarter than me should answer how to tie the OS
hand and foot to make it singletasking. But it maybe the
privilege
of root. Even DOS is not single tasking anymore.
Good luck on your quest.
Stanislaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Didn't know where to post this question...
> Does there exist an OS with these characteristics?
> - completely 32-bit
> - runs in protected mode
> - single user
> - singletasking
> - single processor
> - command line interface
>
> The closest that fits the above are DOS (but not 32-bit/protected mode)
> and Minix (but not singletasking or single user). Any others I have
> missed?
>
> YY
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes and
Date: 27 May 1999 22:17 GMT
Dave Ulrick wrote:
> I've experienced X server lockups with Netscape 4.x and fvwm 2.0.46.
> Both keyboard and mouse events were ignored, so my PC seemed to be
> locked up, but the hard drive continued to work, so I think the Linux
> kernel was still running. I mention Netscape because that was the
> program I was actively using when the lockup occurred, but the problem
> went away when I downgraded to fvwm 1.24 and stayed away when I
> reupgraded to fvwm 2.2.0. (fvwm 2.0.46 was a beta release so it's
> understandable that I had problems.)
>
> I suggest that you try a different window manager and see if your
> problem goes away. Note that fvwm95 is based on a fvwm 2.0.something
> beta release.
Thanks for your insight.
However, the fact is I have been using this configuration without any
machine hang for several months. In retrospect, this weird lockup
began to pop up after I added a second NIC, the same Linksys 10/100TX
as the original one. I plugged it into the first (closest to the
AGP port) PCI slot and therefore making the NIC to share IRQ with my
video card (Millenium G200 AGP).
Next time I shut down the machine (or forced to :^(), I'll put the
NIC into the last PCI slot so that the expansion cards look like:
AGP: Matrox Millenium G200 8MB
PCI1: Empty (currently occupied by Linksys 10/100TX - PNIC chip)
PCI2: Linksys 10/100TX - PNIC chip
PCI3: Symbios SYM8751SP
PCI4: Symbios SYM20810
PCI5: Linksys 10/100TX - PNIC chip (currently empty)
Thanks.
Do-Hoon Kwon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluat
Date: 27 May 1999 22:17 GMT
Michel wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Chris Aiken wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I downloaded 4.6 from Netscape in the form of a gzipped tarball file.
> > >> I installed in my /opt directory w/o any problems at all. I edited the
> > >> /bin/netscape script to point to my new version being careful not to
> > >> destroy the old version. It works great! No problems so far. It
> > >> seems to be a bit faster that 4.51 but who knows. I did pick up
> > >> new bookmarks and address books from my .netscape directory.
> > >>
> > > You must not have gone on java sites yet!
> >
> > > My netscape goes in a warp hole here, I have RedHat 6.0
> >
> > I've been to all the java sites I used to visit with netscape 4.51 and
> > there were no probs with 4.6
> >
> > No considerable difference though. I just like to keep to the latest
> > version although sometimes that's not necessarily a good idea.
> >
> > What problems are you having with java sites?
> >
>
> As soon as it is to start loading java stuff netscape vanishes and leaves only
> a lock file. It basically kills netscape. If I go back to Netscape 4.5 it loads
> the java stuff but eventually crashes netscape.
>
> I have RedHat 6.0 with 40M of RAM, two swap partitions of 64M and lotsa hard disk
>space.
> 300-400M, I have a Cyrix 686 230Mhz.
Look for guava or kaffe installed as an rpm. If you find it get rid of it. I
have seen where conflicts between java vm's have caused this bad behavior. Best
of luck...
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP under RedHat 6.0
Date: 28 May 1999 01:17 GMT
On Thu, 27 May 1999 23:25:39 +0100,
Nick Birkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I upgraded RH5.2 -> RH6.0 . My bro did a complete new install to RH6.0.
>We both have the same problem. PPP thoughput has gone down from
>4.5Kbyte/s (byte not bit) to
>0.9 Kbyte/s.
>
>Had a play with changing cua01 -> ttyS1 etc. Recompiled kernel to 2.2.9.
>Recompiled ppp (drastic I know).
>Played with setserial, pppd options etc etc.
>Everthing else is same as before (under RH5.2).
Well, are you setting the port speed? What speed is it connecting at?
Are there any errors logged? Are all your ppp related modules loading?
Here's a complete stab in the dark. I had a problem when changing to
2.2.x with pppd complainint it couldnt find 'ppp_compress' and whatnot.
A quick search on dejanews produced the following.
Add these aliases to your /etc/conf.modules if they're not already
there.
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate
Of course this also may not be it. Its kinda hard to tell from your
message. I dunno, its as good a guess as any.
--
Mental
When I grow up, I wanna be more like me.
I had a clue. I didn't like it. I took it back and exchanged it for an
attitude.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Building a Virtual Compor
Date: 27 May 1999 14:32 GMT
Hi,
I am suppose to build an application that perform
a lot of statistics about a PPP connexion ! For
this purpose, I would be able to talk to the modem
via AT commands during the ppp connexion.
According to me, a great solution would be to
create a virtual com port, with which pppd will
talk instead of the real one. A program would
redirect all data recieved on the virtual com to
the real one, until the moment I want to talk to
my modem. Then we enable CTS to tell pppd to
resend later data and we stop redirecting data to
the real port ! We can now send +++, and AT
commands to the modem ! After this, we would
return in online data mode, redirect again the
data and disable CTS !
Does anybody know if there is already such an
application ? Does anybody find good this idea,
think it's possible, and can giving me advises to
build this application ? Does anybody have an
other (better or not) solution ?
Thanks !
Jim
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.0 & General Linux Que
Date: 27 May 1999 23:17 GMT
I have been fooling around with Linux for a few months.. I had RH
5.2 and got RH6.0..
Since 6.0 and GNOME has a warning about using the ROOT account I decided
that I will try to create an account for myself and stop using the root
as my primary login acct.
Now I know to do some functions you have to do the su from the prompt
but what I can not figure out is why from a prompt I can not do
ifup
ifdown
ifconfig
but If I go to the /sbin directory and type "./ifup"
or ./ifdown
or ./ifconfig
it works..
I have noticed a lot in linux that you have to do the ./ before the
command/program.
Why is this/how do I fix it.. and can ANYONE point me to some good FAQ's
about why to use an account rather than the root acct and how to get
around without using the root acct.
Thanks
mike
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BTW, when replying to this message could youplease cc: to my email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ip masquerading fine
Date: 28 May 1999 02:17 GMT
Son Trung Nguyen wrote:
> There must be a way with ipfwadm where I can remove only the aaa.bbb.ccc.180
> without affecting aaa.bbb.ccc.181 I have read through the faqs but like
> usual, I missed it, so I apologize if it is in there. I will read it
> again
> just in case.
>
You have to set input and output rules on whatever interface (most
likely ppp0, right?) you wish to restrict. It's mainly a matter of
reading the man page and plugging in the values. YOu *did* read the man
page, didn't you? So if you have packets originating at <source> heading
to <anywhere>, you would set your output filter to REJECT or DENY the
packets. It's been a while since I used ipfwadm; I'm using ipchains
now, w/kernel 2.2.x, but it's the same concept. What you need to do is
setup *firewall* rules, as opposed to *masqing* rules. Although, you
still need to have the masqing rules, too.
> Further more, is there a way you can restrict the bandwidth through one
> of the ip? ie allow only a 1200 bps through aaa.bbb.ccc.180 and give the
> rest of the bandwidth to the other machine? Hope you can do this.
>
I highly doubt it. It'd be an interesting experiment, though.
--
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except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP and Fax conflict
Date: 28 May 1999 02:02 GMT
carl wrote:
>
> I installed linux 5.2 on my laptop, rebuilt the kernel, and configured
> pcmia for the modem cards. All went well. I could dialout via PPP to my
> ISP. I then bought the power tools which included fax capability.
> Immediate the PPP functio ceased to function.
>
> Reason the fax listen software is always attached to the modem. When
> linux is started the fax listening software is started. If I kill the
> fax listener (gettyfax?) and rename the file to a different name, PPP
> works fine.
>
> Can anyone offer a way that will allow the PPP service to coexist with
> the fax service. I even thought there was a command to disable (stop)
> the fax service. then when I was done with PPP turn it back on. If it is
> there I couldn't find it.
>
not necessarily a command but are you able to use the fax program as a
module? that would allow you to load the module , send a fax, unload the
module, then start ppp
--
"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates. Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable
feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill
Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, and
Virii.
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of
Date: 27 May 1999 09:17 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Peter Seebach wrote:
> >>That's one of the things Lott did - or rather, he studied numbers from places
> >>where these things happen. In general, violent crimes go sharply down when
> >>you start letting people carry guns legally.
>
> >...in a country where criminals already have guns. I assume the
> >studies applied only to the US.
>
> Yes. I'd love to see some research on other contexts as well. It's
> clear that the correlation between guns and crime isn't going to turn out
> to be easy to understand... Too much social interaction.
>
> >You would not necessarially get the same results in a situation where
> >to start with, neither criminals nor the public had access to
> >firearms, and then gun laws were relaxed.
>
> Well, I don't think there's anywhere in the world where people genuinely don't
> have access to firearms... :) That said, I would guess that relaxing gun
> laws would probably lower the rate of violent crime anyway, although there
> might well be a short blip higher.
Well, the argument that Lott did some number crunching and then came
up with the conclusion that "more weapons circulation = less crime"
does not surprise me. As it does not surprise me that the crime rate
in the US is generally down, mostly due to the better economic
climate.
But the big question remains. Why in Western Europe the violent, gun
related, crime rates are still lower than in the US (or - at least -
this is the perception that one has), and with much stricter gun
controls laws in place? Big question for sure, but avoiding it is
unfair. :)
Cheers
--
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tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa
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From: NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Iomega products and L
Date: 26 May 1999 23:17 GMT
>>>>> "tm" == Timothy Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
tm> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia Wong) writes:
>> I totally agreed with you. I recently bought a zip drive. I knew at that
>> time that they're supported under linux (we've them at uni). I read the
>> manual and was suprised that other minority OSes are supported (incl os/2
>> and mac) but not linux, not even any unixes. I rang the company to tell
>> them that this is not good enough and the only respond I get is "we do not
>> support unix".
tm> In my opinion anyone thinking of getting a Zip drive
tm> should get the SCSI version.
tm> Then all these issues won't arise.
tm> I agree that Iomega should mention --
tm> at least in the SCSI Zip manuals --
tm> that the drive works perfectly well under Linux.
Admitting this fact would be like supporting the drive if the user
can't get it to work under Linux. If you do not mention this fact
then tough luck for these users. Well in many cases, if not all,
feedback I have from Linux users is often more helpful then their
companies technician ( anyway that I had to deal with ). The ones I
have had to deal with were following a pattern to troubleshoot that
seems rather mechanical and not efficient.
As I have said in a previous post they have replace my drive now.
But I did make some noise!
Thanks all,
Dominic.
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Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Canada, K7L 3N6 Running Linux Redhat 5.2
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