Linux-Misc Digest #398, Volume #27               Mon, 19 Mar 01 18:13:02 EST

Contents:
  ipx sockets under linux (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Rieling)
  networking problems ("Martijn")
  Re: networking problems (Michael Heiming)
  Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver ("arman96")
  HP2500C - MIO card port name for remote printing  (A. Khan)
  Can't rescue, read-only filesystem (Morgan Fletcher)
  rpm weirdness (David Clark)
  Re: Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver (Jun Galamay)
  Re: rpm weirdness (Jun Galamay)
  Re: Stop mail? (William Daffer)
  Re: Backing up files with spaces in name ("Matt O'Toole")
  Re: Poweroff still failes ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Initiating kernel crash ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Redhat on fat32 - boot problem ("Bashan Naidoo")
  Re: rpm weirdness ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Initiating kernel crash ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: rpm weirdness (Andrew Bacchi)
  Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! ("[Bad-Knees]")
  Where to get GNOME desktop background wallpaper ? (Seven of Nine)
  Re: Linux crash like a Windows! ("J Smith")
  Re: bash environment (Goodyear)
  Re: networking problems (Rick Griffiths)
  Re: Where to get GNOME desktop background wallpaper ? (Jan Schaumann)

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Rieling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ipx sockets under linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:05:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi all,

  i want to program an ipx socket application under linux (kernel
  2.1.x).  it seems that ipx sockets behave slightly different from
  standard tcp/ip sockets... can anyone tell me how to set up the
  classical server program ('accept'-ing connections) and the classical
  client program ('connect'-ing) ?   a few lines of code or pseudo-code
  would be sufficient.
  (YES, ipx is in my kernel and i have ipx.h in my lib search path).

  thanks in advance!

j�rg.

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From: "Martijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: networking problems
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:32:40 +0100

This is probably a newbie question but I'm still going to ask it
I have 2 computers one runs windows ME the other Win98 and Linux Redhat 7.0
I have set up networking in windows trough the TCP/IP protocol the machines
will automaticely look for each other so I did'nt have to set an IP-adress
it works perfectly now comes the problem. I have tried to set up TCP/IP in
Linux but it does'nt connect to the other computer
So the network is'nt working via Linux. I have no idea how to set this up.
Can I set up an IPX network in Linux and how.

Could please anybody help me



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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:36:42 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: networking problems

Martijn wrote:
> 
> This is probably a newbie question but I'm still going to ask it
> I have 2 computers one runs windows ME the other Win98 and Linux Redhat 7.0
> I have set up networking in windows trough the TCP/IP protocol the machines
> will automaticely look for each other so I did'nt have to set an IP-adress
> it works perfectly now comes the problem. I have tried to set up TCP/IP in
> Linux but it does'nt connect to the other computer
> So the network is'nt working via Linux. I have no idea how to set this up.
> Can I set up an IPX network in Linux and how.

Why would you setup IPX?

There is a well written home-networking HOWTO on www.linuxdoc.org,
this should give you some info, what to do.

Michael Heiming

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From: "arman96" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:47:38 GMT

Can anyone tell me the best place on the web to get simple instuctions on
install a new NIC Drv and also on Mounting the floppy drive. Thanks.
arman96



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From: A. Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP2500C - MIO card port name for remote printing 
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:04 -0600

I have a HP2500C printer with a MIO print server card.  I have been able to 
set the IP params etc.  I am able to ping the machine.  However, don't know 
the name to put in for :rp=: entry.  The docs I downloaded from HP's 
support site mention IP in passing.

Does any know the identification for the 'port' name associated with the 
'lp' functionality.  (FWIW, with Intel Netports it is LPT1_TEXT and 
LPT1_PASSTHRU for text and raw mode resp.)

TIA
-- 

Arun K. (email: knura at yahoo dot com)


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Can't rescue, read-only filesystem
From: Morgan Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 19:51:05 GMT

I am running debian "testing", my system is up-to-date, except that I
haven't let apt-get remove the 102 packages it recently wants to
remove.

I believe I saw lilo get updated this weekend, during 'apt-get update
&& apt-get upgrade'. This morning I rebooted and got "LI". (Lilo
normally let's me boot into win2k or debian "testing".)

I pulled out an old potato-era rescue disk, entered "rescue
root=/dev/hda3" at the "rescue:" prompt and everything went okay until
it got stuck in an endless loop, repeating the same messages over and
over:

  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: insmod net-pf-1 failed
  insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/unix.o: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/200010319 
Read-only file system

I don't know what's going on. Advice?

(I've posted this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well.)

morgan

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From: David Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm weirdness
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:52:07 -0700

Hello,

Can someone help me figure this out:

[root@davinci david]# rpm -q ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
package ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm is not installed
[root@davinci david]# rpm -ivh ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
package ORBit-0.5.3-2 is already installed

What am I doing wrong on my RH7 system?

thanks,

David Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Jun Galamay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:03:21 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

arman96 wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the best place on the web to get simple instuctions on
> install a new NIC Drv and also on Mounting the floppy drive. Thanks.
> arman96

See networking how-to  at www.linuxdoc.org.
What  Linux dist. (redhat , caldera...) are you using btw?




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From: Jun Galamay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm weirdness
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:06:27 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

David Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can someone help me figure this out:
>
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -q ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm is not installed
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -ivh ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2 is already installed
>
> What am I doing wrong on my RH7 system?
>
> thanks,
>
> David Clark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just do rpm -q ORBit. Don't include rel. #'s.


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Subject: Re: Stop mail?
From: William Daffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:26:32 GMT

"Arthur H. Gold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Tom Edelbrok wrote:
> > 
> > How do you stop a bash script that is being run from crontab from creating
> > mail messages every time it runs? I have a script that is set up to run
> > every minute, and am getting piles of mail messages to delete!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> Redirect the mail to /dev/null (add `> /dev/null' to the
> crontab entry sending the mail).
> 

  This is just a bit misleading. What is being redirected is the
  stdout/stderr of the script. Not the 'mail.' The reason he gets an
  email is because cron doesn't know what to do with that output, and
  so it sends it to the user.

  There are several ways to solve this problem: 

  One could just write the script so there isn't any output. That
  would solve the problem unless there are errors.

  Or one could redirect as you suggest. But still, if there are
  errors, these would be mailed to the user. This is very possibly a
  good thing though.

  to completely eliminate all emails, you'd need to redirect stdout
  *and* stderr too.

  foo > /dev/null 2>&1

  If you want to capture this to a file, you can change /dev/null to a
  log file.


whd
-- 
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend
Inside of a dog it's too dark to read
  -- Groucho Marx

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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backing up files with spaces in name
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:32:47 -0800


"David Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> Thanks for the quick reply Michael!
>
> I'll check out the smb.conf options but I was already thinking that maybe
> doing without spaces in the filenames would be a good idea anyway.  Maybe
> I'll practice my scripting and write one to replace all spaces in
filenames
> with an underscore.  I could run it before a backup to avoid any errors.

David, would you mind posting this script when you get it going?  I'm having
the same problem, and this seems like the only workaround.

Matt O.




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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Poweroff still failes
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:39:47 GMT

Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello "Mr. brialliant question responser", :))

>> What's power off? Do you mean telling the mobo to power down after
>> halting the O/S :-).  

> What actually is mobo, I don't understand...

MOtherBOard. It's children are called dobos. ;.)

>> I am trying to make my dell 300 reboot when  I say
>> so, but alas no, it won't. Is that related? It reboots fine under kernel
>> 2.2.18 but 2.4.0 just leaves it stuck there and halted, saying "system
>> rebooting", waiting for a button press. Is that related?

> hm... I had this some time, but still I tried to force my system to
> power down there. But then - you won't believe - it actually
> restarted... hm... :)

Great! I'll try "poweroff" next time!

>> Being aware that apm/apci and smp don't mix (it's a dual mobo with one
>> processor in at present, and an smp kernel), I have all kinds of anti
>> apm innoculations in the lilo append line, such as

> can you tell me the difference of apci and apm please ?

No. You know exactly as much as I do, because You Too can go and read
the APM-HOWTO, the apm and acpi documentation in the kernel directory,
etc, which is what I did.

>>    apm=off reboot=cold

> From where did you get such parameters... ?

>From the documentation. In particular Configure.help was helpful about
configuration.

>> but no go. Just halt.  

> hm... I suffer with you... and of course I pray for you..

Don't bother. Millions of bangladeshi could do with it more.

>> Sounds like broken apm or mobo without apm/apci.  

> What is this, as stated above... and furhter above... would be good to
> know I guess...

You probably want the dictionary of computing ... at a web site near you,
now.

>>> I think as an result of the power-off behavior, and of one conclusion
>>> made upon those, I think it is due a hardware failure, or conflict. I
>>> am using K6XV3+ Main-board (VIA chip-set), with K6III-400.

>> Congrats on your brilliant conclusion. "It works for everyone else,
>> and it doesn't work for me, so I must be unusual".  

> Yes that's what I thought... and I don't dare to get out on streets
> either, anymore... :)

>>> For example if someone shows, how to call power-off in a C code, so
>> Just take the code from the power-off you have.

> ...where to find this needle in kernel tree ? I was thinking uppon

Module? It's the poweroff application code you want, not some kernel code.

> some concise solution... the more I'll understand...


Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initiating kernel crash
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:32:14 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would certainly agree that a _software-based_ "auto reboot" scheme
> is not likely to fly terribly well; if the system is hosed enough that

Err .. that's precisely what the software wtachdog does, in combination
with the watchdog kernel code.

Peter


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From: "Bashan Naidoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat on fat32 - boot problem
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:13:05 +0200

Hi,

My Win2000 system did not allow Partition Magic to modify my fat32
partition.... so I installed RH7 on the existing Win2000 fat32 partition.
This requires a boot disk in fd0 to boot linux. That is where the problem
arises. My boot disk developed errors. How do I aquire another boot disk The
boot images on the distribution media are unable to see the /dev/loop1
device. Even in rescue mode the loop1 device is not available.

Any suggestions?

Bashan




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rpm weirdness
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:25:22 GMT

David Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can someone help me figure this out:
> 
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -q ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm is not installed
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -ivh ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2 is already installed
> 
> What am I doing wrong on my RH7 system?

You're using rpm incorrectly.

There is no package named "ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm" so querying that
indicates, correctly, that it is not installed.

If you try the command: 
# rpm -q ORBit

you may get the results you expected.
-- 
(reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
http://vip.hyperusa.com/~cbbrowne/linux.html
Attention Spam: The amount of time it takes to determine that a piece
of email is not worth reading.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Initiating kernel crash
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:29:34 GMT

"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I would certainly agree that a _software-based_ "auto reboot" scheme
> > is not likely to fly terribly well; if the system is hosed enough that

> Err .. that's precisely what the software wtachdog does, in
> combination with the watchdog kernel code.

No, if you look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/watchdog.txt, you'll
see that the crucial part of the kernel-supported "watchdog" facility
is the hardware, from WD or Berkshire.

Without the hardware, it's all wishful thinking...
-- 
(reverse (concatenate 'string "gro.mca@" "enworbbc"))
http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/nonrdbms.html
It is impossible to sharpen a  pencil with a blunt axe.  It is equally
vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead.
-- Edsger W. Dijkstra

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From: Andrew Bacchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rpm weirdness
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:31:28 -0500

You could also do
rpm -qa | grep ORBit
That will give you a list of anything you are grepping for.
Try this
rpm -qa | grep rpm

David Clark wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can someone help me figure this out:
>
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -q ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm is not installed
> [root@davinci david]# rpm -ivh ORBit-0.5.3-2.i386.rpm
> package ORBit-0.5.3-2 is already installed
>
> What am I doing wrong on my RH7 system?
>
> thanks,
>
> David Clark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Andrew G. Bacchi
System Manager
Hanover Capital Management (dba AIRS)
35 So. Main St.
Hanover, NH 03755
603 643-8789 office
603 359-2868 cell



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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:47:05 +0000
From: "[Bad-Knees]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!

Steve Withers wrote:

> If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape. 
> 
> I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
> 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT. 
> 
> I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape craps
> out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST often
> with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a
> mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
> about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh? 
> 
> I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
> Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....
> 
> MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(  

Mozilla 0.8 is nice and fast.....


[Bad-Knees]


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From: Seven of Nine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to get GNOME desktop background wallpaper ?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:28:10 -0500

Since the picture will go on the desktop, shouldn't it be called
"desktop paper"?  Just kidding.
Anyway, I've done some searching for cool wallpapers for the background
on the GNOME desktop, but I was not able to find any sites that had a
repository of pictures.  I have Ximian GNOME, if that makes a
difference.
Can someone direct me to a location where a database of cool pictures
for GNOME desktop wallpaper is stored,...

A different question: how do you get the terminal screen to be partially
transparent?

Thanks.



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From: "J Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: Re: Linux crash like a Windows!
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:39:54 -0800

After all this talk about bad RAM, I tried a RAM test myself, and of course
One of the sticks were bad.

That would explain why the BIOS sometimes showed more RAM, and then, other
times wthere was less RAM

reading teaches you in many ways

> > Ofte this occurs if you have some broke RAM in your box.
>
> My box crashed ALL the time under doze.. then installed Linux.. It
> crashed.. yes.. a few times.. per month.
>
> Got hold of some Ram Stress Test Program and it told me that for 4
> months I've been using faulty RAM!.. but linux still was
> functional(partialy).. somehow.. If I pushed it it crashed..
>
> What an awesome OS..
>
> (PS : this story ended hapily with me buying some new ram)




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From: Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash environment
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:02:00 -0500

Tom Hoffmann wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:27:00 -0500, Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have made some changes to the bash environment (KDEDIRS=/opt/kde2) in
> >/etc/profile and etc/cinfig.d/shells/bashrc but they don't stick.  Is
> >there some other place where Caldera put a setup file that I don't know
> >about?
> 
> Not sure what "don't stick" means, but are your exporting KDEDIRS?

Yes.  I do the "export KDEDIRS" and immediately afterward set shows KDEDIRS 
as /opt/kde2.  But if you open another command line window or reboot it 
reverts back to /opt/kde which makes compiling many programs virtually 
impossible for someone of my skill level.

I have even gone to the setup file for bash and entered  the ifo there but 
it seems as if something is changing the invironment after bash reads it's 
profile.

-- 
thanks....Brian

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From: Rick Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: networking problems
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:03:56 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Heiming
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

}Martijn wrote:
}> 
}> This is probably a newbie question but I'm still going to ask it
}> I have 2 computers one runs windows ME the other Win98 and Linux Redhat 7.0
}> I have set up networking in windows trough the TCP/IP protocol the machines
}> will automaticely look for each other so I did'nt have to set an IP-adress
}> it works perfectly now comes the problem. I have tried to set up TCP/IP in
}> Linux but it does'nt connect to the other computer
}> So the network is'nt working via Linux. I have no idea how to set this up.
}> Can I set up an IPX network in Linux and how.
}
}Why would you setup IPX?
}
}There is a well written home-networking HOWTO on www.linuxdoc.org,
}this should give you some info, what to do.

 I've read this HOWTO and it wasn't very helpful as a novice guide for
networking home machines. It gives some very specific instruction for
setting up a Linux box as a router, but is short of general concepts
for making different platforms play together and seems to assume the
reader is a seasoned Linux Admin.

-- 
 Use reply-to address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: Where to get GNOME desktop background wallpaper ?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:02:17 GMT

* Seven of Nine wrote:
> Anyway, I've done some searching for cool wallpapers for the background
> on the GNOME desktop, but I was not able to find any sites that had a
> repository of pictures.

Depends on your windowmanager, but I'm sure if all you want is the
background pic, you can always extract it from any of the themes from:

http://www.themes.org

> A different question: how do you get the terminal screen to be partially
> transparent?

depends on the terminal - I know Eterm, aterm and rxvt can do that,
others might, too.

Consult the documentation for the terminal of your choice.

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

We are Microsoft.  Unix is irrelevant.  Openness is futile.  Prepare
to be assimilated.


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