Linux-Misc Digest #409, Volume #20               Sat, 29 May 99 23:13:18 EDT

Contents:
  Problem with xosview (xcitor)
  Re: XWindows Server ("Jim Orfanakos")
  Re: Scanner stopped working in Linux. Why? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Only ROOT can login?? (Fezzzza)
  Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: Recording sound from line input ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Completly remove LILO (Robert Tang)
  Re: Differences between Unix and Linux ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: Offline newsreader for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: XWindows Server ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: unzip 5.31 no longer supports "shrink" (Carl Fink)
  fbcon & SVGAlib (Tony Smolar)
  Re: Linux installing on 4th disk. Possible??? (Mark Drummond)
  Re: root , adduser , password ? (Scott__)
  Re: limit of command line argument number ("Mohamad Kaissi")
  Linux: now or never (Gilles Pelletier)
  Re: Screenshots from X Desktop (Marc Mutz)
  Re: Disk cache (Marc Mutz)
  Re: Only ROOT can login?? (brian moore)
  Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (David Damerell)
  Network-error in 2.2.5 (Marc Mutz)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Problem with xosview
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:16:48 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm having a problem with xosview. Basically, it does nothing at all.
Other X clients run, so I think it is a problem with xosview
specifically. I ran an strace, and noticed the following error:

open(``/etc/ld.so.preload'', O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)

farily early on in the trace. Indeed, just as the trace says, it
doesn't exist anywhere on my system. there is a bunch of other stuff
in the trace, but this looks like it might be causing the problem.

Any ideas?

-- 
He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.
                -- J.R.R. Tolkien
  9:02pm  up 10:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.23, 0.22

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Reply-To: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: XWindows Server
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:14:59 GMT

There is a shareware product called X-Win32.  It works great.  The only
limitation is that only one session per sub-net can run at a time, and only
for two hours at a time.  Once you pay, the limitations are lifted.

Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I want to run Xwindows from a telnet session under Windows98.  What is a
> good Xwindows Server?  And how do I make it work?  I am running Redhat
6.0.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Scanner stopped working in Linux. Why?
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:20:01 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michel Catudal  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"James R. Van Zandt" wrote:
>> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I have not used my scanner under Linux for a while, then today I
....<snip>...
>I installed sane and there is no such beast as find-scanner
>with it. Where do you get this program?

        When I downloaded and untarred sane-1.00 and built it, find-scanner
was a program in the sane-1.00/tools subdirectory, and it worked.  The
'install' phase doesn't install it anywhere as near as I can tell though.
        BTW, I tried building this on a slackware 3.5 distribution and
for some reason that I forget it didn't build.  It did build on a Caldera
distribution and on a slackware 3.6 distribution.

-- 
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum. 
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used."  A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
       ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fezzzza)
Subject: Re: Only ROOT can login??
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:41:47 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 22:55:12 GMT, "Edmond Cheng"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am using Redhat 5.1.  I have set up a few accounts but seldom use them.  I
>always sign on as root.  But when I try to login with other account, my
>Linux system always refuses with incorrect login.  Even if I change the
>password or I don't specify password for other accounts
>
>Is there any clue??
>
>Thanks,
>Edmond
>
>


how are you creating them through X-windows or from the linux shell ?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:28:40 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 20:35:30 GMT, Matthew Bafford
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>On Sat, 29 May 1999 13:50:59 +0200, Gero H. Marten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>held some poor sysadmin at gun point while typing in the following:
>:                        Under Linux you don't need an offline reader
>: (infact they don't exist). You set up your own newsserver with INN
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: or leafnode.
>
>Gosh, just as you wrote it, slrnpull and slrn disappeared off of my
>machine.

slrnpull is a tool for maintaining a news spool, and not a news reader.

Slrn is a news reader that can read news via NNTP and news spools, and
is not formally an "offline" reader.  It does no offline-associated
work.

Note that slrn may be used in conjunction with Leafnode, much as other
newsreaders may be used in conjunction with Leafnode and slrnpull to
combine to represent, *as an aggregate,* the *equivalent* to an
offline news reader.

Furthermore, even using a "strict" definition, it is still incorrect
to say that offline news readers do not exist on Linux, as I am aware
of two examples of such.

There is a commercial one that "owes a design debt" to Agent, and
there is GNUS, which can do things with news that you probably
couldn't have imagined were possible :-).

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/ipnntp.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.sound
Subject: Re: Recording sound from line input
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:28:46 GMT

In article <7ilsjq$9gn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ron Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running RedHat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9.  I've got a SoundBlaster AWE 64 Value
>sound card.  I usually run KDE as my desktop.
>
>I'm trying to record sound from the line input of the sound card, and I can't
>figure out how to do it.  When I connect a source (the CD player on my home
>stereo system) to the line input, I can hear the sound through the speakers or
>headphones connected to the soundcard, but I can't figure out how to record the
>sound to a file.
>
>My mixer settings seem to be OK.
>
>Does anyone know how to record sound from the line input on the sound card?
>
>My ultimate goal is to record some of my old vinyl albums and write them onto
>CDs.  Has anyone done this on Linux?  If so, how?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>-- 
>       Ron Olsen
>       Boulder Colorado
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        I don't use KDE but the program I use to record is wavplay (usually
through it's graphical front end, xltwavplay).  I use xmix to set up
things up, setting input from line rather than microphone, etc, and I
set up xltwavplay to sample stereo, 16 bit at 44100 bps then record.  Usually,
you can record a whole side as a single *.wav file and use gramofile to break
it up into individual tracks.  Hope this helps.
-Carl
-- 
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum. 
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used."  A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
       ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: Robert Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Completly remove LILO
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:28:15 +0800

Under DOS Type

"fdisk /mbr"

Nuno Donato wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how can i completly remove LILO from my Red Hat 5.2?
> I have fdisk and cfdisk.


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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Differences between Unix and Linux
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:30:52 +0100

On 29 May 1999, James Lee wrote:

> 
> : Actually, most source code has to be ported as I understand.  Its easier
> : then porting to win95, but still a task....thats why most *nix code has
> : LOTS of #ifdef #endif checks.
> 
> A lot of times, it has to do with the compilers involved.
And the rest is due to bad coding...  System specific stuff should be
seperate modules to improve code maintainability.

David Vrabel


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:35:04 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>Well, is there an offline newsreader for Linux?
>You know, log on to the ISP, download all new messages in one go and
>then log off, and then read the messages at my leisure.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve
>
>Remove 'nospam.' from my e-mail address to reply direct.

        I used to use suck, though lately I've been using trn 'live'.
I wrote a custom script/C program combination to arrange the individual
files a certain way once they were downloaded.  I've been thinking about
investigating some of the other newsreaders myself lately, but, there
are a lot of things ahead of that in my queue.

-- 
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum. 
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used."  A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
       ---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Re: XWindows Server
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:34:35 +0100

On Sun, 30 May 1999, Eirik Wilberg wrote:

> Telnet is text, xwindows is graphics.. no go for that... get vnc
Actually you can run X clients from a telnet session if you redirect the
display to a running server (usually where you telnet'd from).
> Jeff Grossman skrev i meldingen ...
> >Hello,
> >
> >I want to run Xwindows from a telnet session under Windows98.  What is a
> >good Xwindows Server?  And how do I make it work?  I am running Redhat 6.0.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jeff
> >
> >--
> >Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: unzip 5.31 no longer supports "shrink"
Date: 30 May 1999 09:06:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 29 May 1999 13:15:55 -0400 John Forkosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Anyone know why the shrink support was
>removed?

I believe it was patent reasons.

>Will I have to keep unzip 5.20 around
>forever (there are too many files for me to
>unzip/re-zip them all)?  

Essentially, yes, you will.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
        -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Smolar)
Subject: fbcon & SVGAlib
Date: 30 May 1999 02:00:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Anybody have any luck getting SVGAlib and fbcon in the 2.2.x kernels to
co-exist?  The SVGAlib programs will run, but they aren't able to set the
right graphics mode.  I'm using the Matrox Framebuffer device.

Oh, and don't suggest GGI, I've tried it.  The SVGAlib app that I need
doesn't work correctly with GGI's svgalib emulation.  
-- 

Tony Smolar

==============================================================================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                    home email
http://www.ultranet.com/~asmolar           homepage

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From: Mark Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.binaries.warez.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux installing on 4th disk. Possible???
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:09:18 -0400

Deton8R wrote:
> 
> The 1024 cylinder question.  Answer: Sort of.   You must ensure that the "/"
> partition resides entirely below cylinder 1024.  Any other partitions you

Actually your root partition can span the 1024 cylinder border so long
as your kernel image is below. This is splitting hairs I know but just
as some FYI so long as the kernel image is below the limit then the
kernel can be loaded.

I ran into this on my machine. I had put a new 4GB drive into it and out
of laziness just put everything on  one partition. It booted fine
because the installation process dumps the kernel under the cylinder
limit.

But one time I rebuilt my kernel and did a make zlilo to install it and
then rebooted ... BOOM! Didn't work and I could not figure out why. So I
booted off diskette and mv'd the old kernel back, IOW just renamed it
and rebooted. Everything worked fine.

Turns out that when the new kernel was moved into / some of it's disk
blocks were past the cylinder boundary and so it crapped out, but the
old kernel was still within the boundary since it had simply been
renamed.

-- 
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Drummond (Mark @ Home)                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPG Fingerprint: B42D C9A3 4183 F04E 1D60  14DF 5BEB 5C1D BEE2 9CAF

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From: Scott__ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root , adduser , password ?
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:05:41 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Up till now I've always logged in as root. Using Slakware (1996/7 ? )
> Apparently some aps. don't like this ?
> In particular I'm trying elm (emailer), since Netscape4.5 is painfully slow.
> It seems that elm should not be run as root ?
> The original 'install.txt', writes about logging in as other than root;
> and gives an example. But my prompt sequence for adduser never
> asks for password !!
> Also where do I access the name-password pair. Or at least be
> able to remove the 'dud' users that I've added ?
> 
>  Thanks for any answers/pointers.  A direct email (also) is appreciated.
> 
>   Chris Glur.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looks like you are asking a few questions here.  

#1  
Q: Why should programs not be run as root?
A: Running as root gives programs the ability to step on anything on
your system.  Only system programs should have to run as root.  By
running programs as normal users you keep them from hurting anything but
the user running them.

#2
Q: How do I create and remove users.
A: Create users with the adduser command. Adduser must be run as root
because it writes to /etc/passwd, /etc/group and creates a mail spooler
directory for the user.
># adduser chris
Create a password for chris with the passwd command. This account should
be locked until a password is set. 
># passwd chris
Delete this user account 
># userdel chris

-Scott

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From: "Mohamad Kaissi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: limit of command line argument number
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:24:30 GMT

Use ls dirname that will list files in the dirname directory. (without the
/*.)
As far as I remember, I've never been on a unix system that does not have  a
line argument limitation. Putting 11000 is an awful lot! Remember it's the
shell that is expanding your arguments, so going to the directory and
writing
echo * has the same effect as ls * (expect for sure if you wanted some
switches with ls)
Anyway, it depends on what you want to do with those files and how do you
want to handle them. As was mentioned in an earlier posting , find might be
the solution for what you want to do (something you did not specify). man
xargs too, it should help you with command line argument limitation of the
commands themselves and the shell limitation.


=================================================
The trouble with the world is that stupids
are cocksure and the intelligent are full
of doubt.
-- Bertrand Russell

Mohamad Kaissi
===============================================
Tae-Yeoub Jang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I need to handle a directory which contains 11000 data files.
> But I just can't put those files onto a command line as input arguments.
>
> For example:
> BASH> ls dirname/*
> BASH> bash: /bin/ls: too many arguments  <== Error message
>
> None of shell commands and other programs are working.  What should I
> do?  It doesn't seem to be the problem of BASH, my shell, as I tried
> with another shell like 'tcsh' to no purpose.
>
> My platform is "Redhat Linux5.2 with Kernel 2.0.36, BASH 1.14.7.
> There should be a solution as I hadn't met this problem with the unix
> machine with the same BASH shell in my office.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Tae.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux: now or never
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:36:39 GMT

Reinier Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> �crivait/wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( (Gilles Pelletier)) wrote:
>
>>I installed Gnome 6.1 last weekend. Everything went well until the
>>menu driven installation refused to install the server (driver?) for
>>my Mach32 video card. I then had to go to the prompt.
>
>At the prompt, as root, type 'yast', and you're back in the automatic
>installation seat.

Oh, great! My video card problem is fixed, but I could get my CF
keyboard back with your precious advice. The process is even more
automatic than in DOS, where you have to write a line in config.sys
and two in autoexec.bat. (The CF keyboard wasn't available on the
first steps of installation, I believe.)

But... oups! CTRL + ALT don't work, only Alt Gr. And oups again,
capitals letters ������ , save �, aren't available. Hum... I still
prefer to write three lines in DOS.

>>So, I figured out that a beginner would be much better of building his
>>system manually. You know, mkdir /dev, /mnt, /cdrom, whatever...
>
>SuSE has 4.5 gig of software and you want to install and configure it
>manually?

No. Not the software, just the monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc. ; create
users, delete users, create shadow passwords;. and mount, umount, etc.

There's a utility called "amd" which is supposed to simplify the
process of mounting -- unmounting. Do you know what it does? This is
really a pain! In DOS, I simply insert the disquette, type "d" (which
is doskey for "DIR /O/P/S") then enter. For the following disquettes,
I use the up arrow instead of "d".

Better yet, if I want to find a file, I do:
"ou foobar" instead of "d"
("o�" is french for "where" and is doskey for "DIR %1 /O/P/S"

"tr www.foobar.com" makes a traceroute with date and time,
Etc.

Now, I certainly won't pretend that you can do as much with DOSKEY and
batch files as with shell scripts, but it's more than enough for the
casual user; it's fairly easy to use and you don't have to roam in
HOWTOs and FAQs to learn to write them. Any book for beginners can
teach you to write a batch file. Of course, batch files seem to be
outmoded. People use Windows "as it is." 

>>Once the kernel is installed, Emacs could be opened with instructions
>>in a top window and the prompt or the file to edit at the bottom.
>
>Once the kernel is installed, you need to install Emacs.  'Manually'?
>
>>Instructions could be formatted in HTML so that if you were installing
>>a second IDE drive from a CD, you wouldn't have to find your way
>>through SCSI installation from ftp. You'd read just what you need.
>
>How does the HTML file know what it is you need?

It doesn't. That's why the links are there: if you need it, you click
it. Otherwise, you read the basics.

>>Autoinstalling Linux is like putting a nice body around a Ferrari's
>>mechanics and giving the keys to John Doe saying "You just press the
>>gas pedal and it moves forward."
>
>I don't know about you, but if I ever buy a Ferrari (which is
>purely hypothetical) I'll be buying a car, ready for use; not a DIY
>Ferrari assembly kit.  

That's pretty much what Linux is. You can "assemble it" so that it
asks you before overwriting a file. You can even set up a recycle bin.
But no distribution will explain how to do these things while you're
installing. You've got to search through piles and heaps of
documentation, which most newcomers from theWindows world, complaining
about its inadequacies and still unable to write a batch file, won't
do. 

Loosing a few files is one of the many reasons they're back to
Windows. I'd bet that there are more copies of Linux gathering dust on
the bottom shelves that being installed on numerous computers. That's
why I'm saying that Linux is going nowhere as an OS for the general
public. For now, it's only child's play and big hoopla.

Exemples:

A few months ago, here in Quebec, a journalist named Dumais, attempted
a switch to Linux. All the community was around, helping him to get
over every hurdle, just as the Linux community is supposed to do...
and even quite a bit more.

The guy was reporting daily on his progress and finally got his system
up and running (in 16 bit colors!) in "only" 4 days... after somebody
went to his place to fix things. Then, nothing: a few "I'll be back"
in December and he vanished in the haze. Don't ask about him, he's
just gone. And it's Linux hoopla all over again.

Another dunce, you'll say? No so long ago, Linux-Quebec was sporting a
link in its section "Linux dans les �coles" about Trois-Soleils school
in Laval. A few old boxes had been networked to a Pentium 166 and
provided access to the internet with Netscape. The system was
certainly honed to perfection, as it was installed by Jacques G�linas
of Linuxconf fame.

Quite a few months later, I called the school to ask how come not a
single page had been added since the installation. The director told
me that a few pieces of wire had apparently been borrowed (not
computers!) and the network was put down. Gelinas wrote me that his
son wasn't at this school anymore and that he had other concerns. The
only link to an operating Linux system was eventually taken off the
Linux-Quebec page on "schools". And it's Linux hoopla all over again.

I don't know how many small networks operate on NT in schools, but my
nieces' school has a network and since there's no ballyhoo, my bet is
that it's operating on NT. I guess there must be a few dozen of
schools using NT in Quebec, but no one talks about it. It's the way to
go, it's just normal.

For sure, M$ is now investing big money in the public librairies
system in Canada, just as in the US.
See: http://www.ledevoir.com/liv/1999a/gate010499.html
(French text.)
In Canada, the federal and provincial governments rely almost
exclusively on M$ software. Quebec Liquor Board, amongst others, has
switched from OS2 to NT. 

Every day an immense installfest goes on for M$: all over the world,
thousands of new cheap internet computers are sold or given away with
a subscrition to internet services with only Windows on board. 

McGill University, where Gopher was born, now gives its first courses
on NT. This way, I was told, students get to learn something they can
use in their everyday life.

Etc.

Of course, when someone like me makes a follow-up on Linux's success
stories and takes a peek at M$ little exponential leaps in the real
non-linux world, he's necessarily qualified as a M$ sycophant. People
prefer evangelist Eric Raymond's Cathedral of the Bizarre gospel. 

Though I wouldn't mind getting my economic and politic vision of the
networked society from a programmer, it just so  happens that the most
down to earth paper I've read so far is by economist Nathan Newman,
who was a doctorate Berkely student at the time of the writing.
See: From MSWord to MSWorld: How Microsoft is Building a Global
Monopoly   http://www.netaction.org/msoft/world/

No bright new concept here, no scholarly erudition, just plain talk,
the real M$ story. And what you learn mainly, is that when M$ can't
beat the enemy in a face to face confrontation, as is the case for
Linux, it undermines its defences.

As Linux is beginning to nibble away at the servers' market, Gates and
Allen are still enlarging their users base and selling a hell of a lot
of shares to get a large number of investors interested in M$ future.
They invest the money in technologies (satellites, cables, databases)
that might very well end up being just a little bit more M$ friendly
than Linux friendly. We're not only talking about "Frontpage
extensions" here... and look at the success they had with this silly
thing!

For now, with its "750 million users in five years" (Raymond, a very
conservative man, scaled down his estimate from 830 millions) Linux is
doing great... while being M$' single greatest ally in its struggle
against the DoJ. (One can only wonder and ponder at the miraculous
coincidence of this... impending rise of Linux!)

But when DoJ trial ends, Windows 2000 will be out. Or rather, Windows
2000 will be out when DoJ trial ends. ; )  For a while, it might be
exempt from certain "security breaches" that send user information
back to M$ and of back doors that allow M$ technicians to peek at a
system. (Who knows, it might even crash a wee bit less ;-)
If Linux is not really more user friendly or, I'd say, "user
comprehensible" (in the sense that a nice graphical interface just
won't do), it will be the beginning of the end.
 
>Reinier Post (satisfied SuSE 6.1 user)

When I was in Holland, the administrator of the "Vliegen Bos" near
Amsterdam liked to take me apart -- probably because I was more of his
age than the rest of the campers -- to teach me about the common sense
of the Dutch people (without exception, of course). It went from not
wasting expensive and scarce police respourses on enforcing laws on
marijuana, to living near one's work and using a bicycle to get to
it... and, of course, the obligation to keep the key in the back
wheel's lock when you rode (so it couldn't get lost, at least during
the ride : )

I really hope he was right and that, as an experienced Linux user,
you'll put some energy in making Linux more "user comprehensible" NOW.
As you know, not much ever happens in the way of mobilisation during
summer, and next September, it might be too late. It's now or never.

GP


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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:13:56 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screenshots from X Desktop

Achim Schmidt wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for a software to generate screenshots from any
> X Apps. xwpick doesn't run because I've true color configurated.
> Does anybody know a good software ?
> 
use xv.

Marc

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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:16:33 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk cache

Gary Shea wrote:
> 
> I would like some control over how the kernel allocates RAM for the disk
> cache, any suggestions?
the kernel does not allocate mem for disk caching. It uses all available
free space in ram.

Marc

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Only ROOT can login??
Date: 30 May 1999 01:46:02 GMT

On Sat, 29 May 1999 22:55:12 GMT, 
 Edmond Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using Redhat 5.1.  I have set up a few accounts but seldom use them.  I
> always sign on as root.  But when I try to login with other account, my
> Linux system always refuses with incorrect login.  Even if I change the
> password or I don't specify password for other accounts
> 
> Is there any clue??

rm /etc/nologin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: 30 May 1999 03:46:05 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gilles Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tom Jordaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> �crivait/wrote:
>>(Um, should you be fiddling with mtab manually?)
>No. But checking what's in mtab in comparision with fstab can give you
>an idea of how your system is set up. 

This is what the 'mount' command is for.

>>Use fvwm, as it supports Debian's menuing
>>system, and then you'll find every package listed on fvwm's menu,
>>with new ones appearing after installation and a restart of fvwm.
>Interesting. I couldn't use KDE or GNOME anyhow with my 486 16 megs 1
>meg video.

Gnome is not for everyone, and the Debian menus are really nifty.
-- 
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:05:09 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network-error in 2.2.5

Hi out there!

Does the networking error in 2.2.5 manifest itself as follows?
Unable to log in via telnet/rlogin/ssh form over the network?

Thanks.

Marc

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