Linux-Misc Digest #409, Volume #25 Thu, 10 Aug 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Couldn't open Netscape ("ywk@SuSE")
RH6.2 install from /dev/hdb2/ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: those damn ^M characters from win files... (Floyd Davidson)
Re: How to copy a diskette? (Yves Bellefeuille)
Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome (blowfish)
Re: New Version Of Lilo Is Said Not To Have 1024 Cyl Limit. Need Info (Mike Stevens)
Re: Suddenly unable to boot Linux (using kernel 2.2.16) (Mike Stevens)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Sam Holden)
Business Component Editor (Curt Gilliland)
Re: setuid root perl script (TomG)
very slow, any ideas? (Bart)
Re: tar - unrecoverable error on RH 6.1 (Robert Jones)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
Re: very slow, any ideas? ("Jason")
Re: How to copy a diskette? (Robert Heller)
Re: starting ftpd during bootup (Robert Heller)
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From: "ywk@SuSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:21:20 -0700
sorry about that, I did try to use command line
it came up to say
"Bus error"
same thing happen to other users too
I recognize the problem that was just after Staroffice 5.1 version
installed
any clue?
ywk
Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:18:36 -0700, "ywk@SuSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >thanks for your info, actually I had done the remove the lock file
> >manually but it still couldnot pop up netscape and it just wrote a lock
> >file in .netscape directory everytime i click the icon.
> >
> >Whats happening?
>
> We don't know, and can't tell you, because you haven't given us enough
> information to go on. So, here's what you do:
> 1) open an Xterm window
> 2) enter the netscape command (netscape &)
> 3) tell us if there were any messages generated by netscape into the Xterm
> (which sometimes happens when netscape has a problem).
> 4) tell us what those messages were
>
> We'll ask further questions if necessary.
>
> >thanks very much in advance
> >
> >ywk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Andreas Kahari wrote:
> >> =
> >
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ywk@SuSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr=
> >ote:
> >> >Hi :inuxers
> >> >I am running SuSE 6.4 with netscape 4.72. The problem is Netscape
> >> >couldnot pop up on all my users' desktop. I have checked the settings,=
> >
> >> >nothing wrong! Just SuSE keeps writing a lock file to .netscape
> >> >directory that block the initialization of the browser, why?
> >> >there is no problem on root
> >> >anything i can do about it please?
> >> >
> >> >ywk
> >> =
> >
> >> That lock file ought to be removed by Netscape when the user quits it.
> >> It will not be removed if the user logs out without quitting Netscape
> >> in "the right way" (using 'Exit' in the 'File' menu, or pressing
> >> 'Alt+Q').
> >> =
> >
> >> In general, logging out (or killing X) without quitting your
> >> applications is a really Bad Thing since most applications won't clean
> >> up after themselves or have time to warn the user of unsaved work.
> >> =
> >
> >> Your problem will be solved by instructing your users to quit all
> >> applications before logging out. The file '~/.netscape/.lock' can be
> >> removed manually if it exists and if Netscape is not running.
> >> =
> >
> >> /A
> >> =
> >
> >> --
> >> # Andreas K=E4h=E4ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
> >> # ...brought to you from Uppsala, Sweden.
> >> # All junk e-mail is reported to the appropriate authorities.
> >> # Criticism, cynicism and irony available free of charge.
>
> Lew Pitcher
> System Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RH6.2 install from /dev/hdb2/
Date: 10 Aug 2000 22:29:25 GMT
Hi,
having used slakware for 12 months, and having bought the RH6.2 CD,
my attempts to install fail:
1. make boot floppy; type for CD or HD loading = OK
2. boot and answer options up till:
shows /dev/hda1/ and allows directory to be entered
" where base and RPMS are located"
I've put all the files { about 5 } in base; and some in the RPMS dir.
-- just as a sample, in a directory of /dev/hdb2/.
NB. this is a linux partition, and I copied the files via slackware,
with their full named.
During the boot procedure's big scrolling trace, I can see than the
/dev/hdb2/ has been recognised - it shows the makers ID.
So why can't I set the 'from directory' to :
/dev/hdb2/.....as required ?
Does RH6.2 want the base and RPMS stuff to be in /dev/hda1/ ?
Must it be in FAT16 format ? Then what about the long file names ?
Thanks for any answers/advice also emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Glur.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: those damn ^M characters from win files...
Date: 10 Aug 2000 14:10:05 -0800
"Kirk R. Wythers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a utility or better yet an option in an editor
>(emacs, xemacs, vi, whatever...) that can search for and remove the
>return characters (^M) from windows files? I'd appreciate it. Thanks,
>
>Kirk
Use the oldest UNIX tool that was made just to remove extra
control code:
col -xb < infile > outfile
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Subject: Re: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:57:20 -0400
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Carl Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How the heck do I make a copy of a diskette using Linux?
Use "dd" to copy the diskette to a file, and then use "dd" again to copy
the file to another diskette.
> I can imagine popping the diskette into the drive, doing some command to
> read it and create a disk image file, then swapping diskettes & copying
> the disk image out to diskette. If I had a disk image, I suppose dd
> would be the command to copy it out to the diskette.
You're exactly right, except that "dd" works in both directions. ;-)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:18:50 -0700
Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
Is the Dell dumping Linux now?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12509.html
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: Mike Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Version Of Lilo Is Said Not To Have 1024 Cyl Limit. Need Info
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:12:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have heard that a new version of Lilo does not have the
> 1024 cylinder limit. I would like to get it and doc on it.
> Where can I get the new version of it?
> What version is it?
> What kernels will it work with or it it kernel independent?
>
> Thanks
>
Mike
>
>
It works very well for me. I can boot DOS, RH, Slackware, and Solaris
x86 eithout any difficulty. It really makes life a LOT easier.
--
-Mike Stevens
What manner of quandry is this? - The Tick
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From: Mike Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suddenly unable to boot Linux (using kernel 2.2.16)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:22:39 GMT
In article <8mppgj$cer$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"James Chew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed RH 6.2 and upgraded the kernel to 2.2.16 more than a week
ago.
> I've always had no problems booting up my Linux computer until today.
Now,
> it just hangs at 'Uncompressing Linux... '
>
> Has anyone seen a problem like this before? I hope I don't have to
reinstall
> Linux.
>
> Thanks,
> James.
>
>
Have you moved the kernel since you last ran lilo? Boot from a rescue
disk and rerun lilo to correct that problem.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Holden)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 10 Aug 2000 23:30:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:23:11 -0700,
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Phillip Lord wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> blowfish> Sorry. But I don't talk to machine of any kind.
>>
>> blowfish> Do you write a piece of source code, when you want to tell
>> blowfish> your mother/wife/girlfriend/ something. Or do you just
>> blowfish> write to them in plain English ( or whatever *human*
>> blowfish> language that you use.
>>
>> blowfish> Or do you compile your source code into binaries, then
>> blowfish> install it in a machine, then your
>> blowfish> mother/wife/girlfriend/whoever can read what you want to
>> blowfish> say?
>>
>> I am glad that I do not have to modify your source code. You
>> are under the mistaken impression that I have spent much time trying
>> to beat out of first year computer programmers, namely that the
>> purpose of source code is for computers to read. Its absolutely is
>> not. If it were we would make it easier for computers to read.
>>
>No. You guessed wrong. ;-)
>
>> The purpose of source code is to communicate to another
>> human (or to yourself at a later date) what you have told the computer
>> to do. Its for this reason that meaningful variables names are
>> important. And also commenting. There are several import rules for
>> commenting. One of which is "do not say the same thing in comments as
>> you do in the program". Comments of the sort "increment x by 1" are
>> pointless for instance. In other words program code, and comments are
>> both forms of speech.
>>
>> Phil
>Yes, you're both correct and incorrect.
>
>To the programmers, yes, but tothe population at large- no.
Can't you just give up on this stupid irrelevant point.
If I create a new written language, which only me and my wife know, and I
write a letter to her in that language, the letter is copyrightable.
It doesn't matter how many people can read it.
--
Sam
In case you hadn't noticed, Perl is not big on originality.
--Larry Wall
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From: Curt Gilliland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Business Component Editor
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:30:02 GMT
I have just installed the Business Component Editor for Linux.
I am running the editor against Oracle8i EE 8.1.6 for linux(Red Hat 6.2).
I am trying to create a new project using the wizards. I get through step 2
(which is connecting to the Oracle DB -successfully) naming the package
name. As it procedes to step 3 a new frame begins to appear than it exits
with no errors.
I have not been able to get past the point. What am I missing?
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From: TomG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setuid root perl script
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:30:07 GMT
bolero92 wrote:
>
>
> I am writing a CGI script to change user e-mail forwarding configuration
> which will copy /etc/mail/aliases.save to /etc/mail/aliases
> and run "/usr/bin/newaliases"
>
> but the script can't run successfully and the error log shows:
> Insecure $ENV{PATH} while running setuid at /dev/fd/3 line 61, <FILE2>
> chunk 133.
>
> Why?
>
>
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> Before you buy.
I assume that as you mention CGI, this is a remote application.
Generally, Linux doesn't like you doing ANYTHING as root over an insecure
connection (usually only ssh is allowed). Setting UID to 0 would also
fall foul of this (I assume).
Can you do any re writes to use ssh?
hope I helped, if not mail me and tell me more!
Tom
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From: Bart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: very slow, any ideas?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:31:17 GMT
I just loaded Mandrake 7.1 on a desktop with the following config:
200 pentium/32 megs ram.
problem: it runs slow, very slow. I try to open for example email, takes
about 30 seconds to open. And for the staroffice 5.1, forget it, around 5
minutes to open that! I used to run nt server 4.0 on the same machine,
worked great, fast. any ideas for speeding it up? the swap file is around
100 megs in size. Linux looks like an excellent os, but I need to speed it
up.
Thanks, Bart
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar - unrecoverable error on RH 6.1
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:50:45 -0500
Chris wrote:
> I was having trouble getting tar to backup my RH 6.1 system, so I upgraded
> tar to version tar-1.13.17-3.i386.rpm
>
> Since doing that the command I was using before which was failing after
> backing up most of the disk, now fails almost instantly with 'tar: /dev/st0:
> Cannot write: Input/Output error'.
>
> I'm running 'tar -cvf /dev/st0 /*'
>
> So it appears to me that the device /dev/st0 is now no good to the new tar
> program. Is this my problem? I tried uninstalling the tar but couldn't find
> the original tar rpm anywhere so now I am stuck. Anyone have any ideas? Is
> there a better device file to use?
>
> Take off the nospam to email a reply.
>
> Chris
>
> --
I don't pretend to know anything about tar or SCSI interfaces or DAT drives but
I have no trouble at all backing up my RH 6.0 machine using the version of tar
that came with it.
[root@localhost rj]# tar --version
tar (GNU tar) 1.12
Since your old version of tar didn't work and the new one doesn't work either,
perhaps tar isn't the problem. ??
Your /dev/st0 file should look like this -- char device, major 9, minor 0:
[root@localhost rj]# ls -l /dev/st0
crw-rw---- 1 root disk 9, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/st0
If that looks o.k., you might try popping in a tape and checking the drive's
status. Here's mine. Note that this tape is write protected, which yours
certainly shouldn't be if you intend to write to it.
[root@localhost rj]# mt -f /dev/st0 status
SCSI 2 tape drive:
File number=0, block number=0, partition=0.
Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x13 (DDS (61000 bpi)).
Soft error count since last status=0
General status bits on (45010000):
BOT WR_PROT ONLINE IM_REP_EN
Other than narrowing the source of the problem down by checking those items, I
dunno. I ASSUME you get something similar to the following when you kernel
boots:
(scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 0/20/0
(scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 416 instructions downloaded
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.1.28/3.2.4
<Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter>
scsi : 1 host.
(scsi0:0:2:0) Synchronous at 5.0 Mbyte/sec, offset 8.
Vendor: IBM Model: HP35480A !C Rev: 9
Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI tape total.
I hope this gives you some ideas. I beat my head on the wall for a few days
before I got everything working like I wanted it to.
BTW, if it turns out that your problem is, indeed, with tar, both 'man tar' and
'info tar' can get pretty overwhelming in one quick hurry. I found that if I
did:
[root@localhost rj]# tar --help > /dev/lp0
I would get a couple of pages printed out that serve very nicely as a quick
reference. I hope this gives you some things to check while you're waiting for
a decent answer to your question.
Cheers
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:24:02 GMT
blowfish writes:
> Gee. You want me to dig through dejanews?
I don't care if you root around in a pile of old leaves in your back yard.
Produce a quotation.
> My news server sucks.
Newsguy charges $25/year.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: "Jason" <Jason(AT)cyborgworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: very slow, any ideas?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:52:56 -0500
a little more detail would be great. If we could get things like the output
of a 'ps aux'
perhaps what is in /proc/meminfo
what is in /proc/loadinfo
what is in /proc/swaps
that would be a great starting point. also, what window manager are you
using? I assume KDE since you said Mandrake, and Im not sure but doesnt
Mandrake 7.1 use XF86 4.0 which is a bit more of a hog then even previous
versions of X were. If I had to guess, I would say that on that machine,
you should really be looking at a window manager that takes a little less
resources. Say WindowMaker for example. But lets take a look at those files
and we'll go from there.
--
Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:55:28 GMT
Carl Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:58:16 -0700, wrote :
CB> Thanks to both you & Robert Heller. I knew it had to be something
CB> simple. Beats begging someone with a WinXX system to copy it for
CB> me!
Right. You can even use dd to duplicate (HD) *Mac* floppies. Try
*that* on a WinXX box sometime...
CB>
CB> --CarlB
CB>
CB> Dances With Crows wrote:
CB> >
CB> > On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:50:10 -0700, Carl Benson wrote:
CB> > >Okay, I'm officially frustrated. I've searched Linux Documentation
CB> > >Project, O'Reilly books "Running Linux" and "Linux Network Admini-
CB> > >strator's Guide", and this newsgroup.
CB> > >
CB> > >How the heck do I make a copy of a diskette using Linux?
CB> > >
CB> > >I don't want to mount it as a filesystem. I can imagine popping
CB> > >the diskette into the drive, doing some command to read it and
CB> > >create a disk image file, then swapping diskettes & copying the
CB> > >disk image out to diskette. If I had a disk image, I suppose dd
CB> > >would be the command to copy it out to the diskette.
CB> > >
CB> > >But I have no idea what command(s) to use to read in a diskette
CB> > >as a disk image. Can anyone help me, please?
CB> >
CB> > dd if=/dev/fd0 of=diskimage bs=18k (exact copy of disk to HD)
CB> > dd if=diskimage of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k (exact copy of image to disk)
CB> >
CB> > The man page for dd is a tad confusing, but dd is generally used to make
CB> > exact copies of floppy disks, transform a data CD-ROM into an ISO image,
CB> > or alter things like the MBR, which can't be reached via the filesystem.
CB> > The bs= option there is for speed; 1.4M floppies have 18K/track. Using
CB> > the default bs of 512 bytes takes almost 2.5 times longer. If it helps,
CB> > think of dd as doing what they call a "sector copy" in DOS.
CB> >
CB> > >You'd think no one used diskettes anymore!
CB> >
CB> > <RANT>
CB> > The 3.5", 1.4M diskette will be around for a long time, if only because
CB> > every PC/Mac/Sparc/Alpha can be fitted with one for cheap and many of
CB> > those systems can boot from said floppy. It's backwards combatible to
CB> > stuff produced 12 years ago--how many other hardware bits have fallen by
CB> > the wayside in that time? It's obsolete, slow, and small, but unlike
CB> > fast networks/ZIP drives/CD-Rs, it's *UBIQUITOUS*. Jobs was smoking
CB> > some wicked crack the day he decided to leave floppies out of the new
CB> > Macs... every iMac/G[34] user I know bought a floppy drive first thing
CB> > and bitched about the lack of said drive....
CB> > </RANT>
CB> >
CB> > --
CB> > Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
CB> > Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
CB> > http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
CB> > -----------------------------/ --Charles Peguy
CB>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: starting ftpd during bootup
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:55:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti),
In a message on 10 Aug 2000 21:59:59 GMT, wrote :
PB> I can't FTP into my machine:
PB>
PB> [myname@mymachine myname]$ ftp 127.0.0.1
PB> Connected to 127.0.0.1.
PB> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
PB> ftp>
PB>
PB> I don't see ftpd running:
PB>
PB> myname@mymachine myname ]$ ps axuw | grep ftp
PB> peterb 9045 0.0 0.2 1360 516 pts/9 S 14:50 0:00 grep ftp
PB>
PB>
PB> In the /etc/inetd.conf (I'm using RedHat 6.2) file it seems as if it should
PB> be set to start running when booting:
PB>
PB> # These are standard services.
PB> #
PB> ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.ftpd -l -a
PB> telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd
PB>
PB> What file do I need to modify in order to fire up ftpd automatically??
Are you sure ftp is in fact installed on your machine?
What does this command return:
rpm -q wu-ftpd
???
PB>
PB> Thanks
PB>
PB>
PB>
PB>
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