Linux-Misc Digest #442, Volume #20 Tue, 1 Jun 99 05:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Upgrade procedure. (Ron Gibson)
Re: FTP clients that can do site-to-site transfers? ("Colin")
Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested (Peter Mutsaers)
IPMASQ ("Pankaj Arora")
Re: "Art Format" images? (David Bullock)
Re: Anybody using NTFS write support? (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Restrict Directory access (�Ӱ��)
Re: About RealPlayer G2... (Jim)
Re: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS! 5132 ("Pankaj Arora")
Re: Desktop items and suse login ?? (nails)
INTERESTED IN AN AWESOME WEBSITE? 8568 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY NEWS (RacingJay)
Re: autofs or am-utils, which one? (Stefan Boresch)
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Paul Anderson)
lilo+W98+RH6+2 HDs-solved! (4season)
Re: vfat not supported!? (Villy Kruse)
Tuesday 1 June 1999 Meeting of LXNY: Planning for PC Expo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
rlogin on redhat 5.2 (Predrag Vrankovic)
Re: Lilo+W98=No boot-why? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Upgrade procedure.
Date: 1 Jun 1999 04:53:16 GMT
Say, I want to upgrade my version of Slackware. Is there any merit to
installing over the old installation or might I just as well nuke the
old install and start from scratch save a few critical files?
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Colin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP clients that can do site-to-site transfers?
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:57:41 +1000
you could try Wxftp looks like Wsftp in windows
http://www.wxftp.seul.org/
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Louie R. Orbeta wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone recommend an FTP client that lets me perform site-to-site
> > transfers?
> >
> if you mean to mirror a site or a single directory, try lwp-mirror or
> lwp-rget (see man pages). They come with perl.
>
> Marc Mutz
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From: Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Performance tuning of FreeBSD and Linux: pointers requested
Date: 31 May 1999 22:40:20 +0200
>> "LM" == Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LM> He specifically mentioned directory reading speed:
LM> Linux reads a large group of ~7000 article
LM> files at slightly over twice the speed of FreeBSD.
LM> This would imply a difference in read buffering unless simultaneous
LM> writing is causing a slowdown. The sync vs. async setting would
LM> be more directly involved in write timing.
Is it an IDE disk? If so, are DMA, 32 bit read and multi-sector I/O
enabled? See the flags for wd0 in /sys/i386/conf/LINT.
All my benchmarks consistently show better disk I/O performance for
FreeBSD. Also read-only.
--
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Reply-To: "Pankaj Arora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Pankaj Arora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IPMASQ
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 05:36:43 GMT
Hey,
I got IPMASQ working great -- except I have a question. The Ethernet card I
have hooked up to the Internet is device eth0 and the one to my LAN is eth1.
Could I do something like:
ipchains -A forward -i eth1 -s 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 -j MASQ
So no one who can spoof the IP 10.* can MASQ behind my box? I tried that
line above with the -i eth1 added in my rc.local and IPMASQ just stopped
working -- so I set it back to normal. Do you know what to do so it will
only MASQ packets on device eth1? I'm running Red Hat Linux 6.0. Thanks
for any help.
Pankaj Arora
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bullock)
Subject: Re: "Art Format" images?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 05:33:59 GMT
Actually it's a proprietary format licensed to AOL for use in their
caching system. Microsoft had nothing to do with this one other than
supporting it in IE4/5 (which I believe they did to get AOL to use
their browser).
When an AOL user requests a page through their browser, their caching
proxy fetches the page and converts the jpg/GIF images to their
smaller ART format. ART files are maxed at something like 640x480
and drop out even more picture quality than JPG's, but they're much
smaller and help AOL cache data more efficiently.
There is a good essay about it at
http://www.digitalblasphemy.com/aol.shtml that pretty much affirmed
what I had heard before about it.
On 28 May 1999 17:02 GMT, NEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>run `strings foo.art | head`
>
>Omitting the backquotes (see below for why) we get:
>
>40w.
>J}NX
>,_jng
>qn^8
>F(*
>dN0&HL24$fjB
>rhxf
>Qpk.
>j`sR%
>*95yQ
>
>Does that seem useful, help point to a Linux app that might
>understand the .art format? I suspect this is another Microsoft
>proprietary format, possibly a fractal compression format like
>the one they licensed from Iterated Systems for Encarta. That
>would explain the small size of these files, assuming they're
>reasonable size images.
>
>Backquotes are a shell directive to "run the command within the
>backquotes, and deliver that command's output here." They're
>generally only useful in conjunction with other commands. So,
>
> run `strings foo.art | head`
>
>produces:
>
> bash: run: command not found
>
>and
>
> `strings foo.art | head`
>
>produces:
>
> bash: 40w.: command not found
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody using NTFS write support?
Date: 01 Jun 1999 00:51:13 -0400
"Thomas R. Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently recompiled my kernel to include read-only NTFS support.
> The data on that partition is rather important and I didn't have the
> intestinal fortitude to try the experimental write support. Has
> anyone tried it? How stable is it?
well, (one of) the NTFS developers mailed out recently on the kernel list
that he was pretty sure he'd found some really nasty bugs that could
potentially do nasty corruption - IOW, i wouldn't do that if i were you.
--
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paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
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-- Cheers, The Heart is a Lonely Snipehunter
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From: �Ӱ�� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restrict Directory access
Date: 1 Jun 1999 05:51:45 GMT
Just try to use ProFTPd...
You can restrict user accessig.. by just putting a line
DefaultRoot ~
in configration file...
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: About RealPlayer G2...
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 06:03:21 GMT
> Thanks guys. G2 now works. The linux-base-5.2 update solved the problem.
> It includes a fix for chrooted files which was the problem. That url is
> now part of my bookmarks. It contains some
> nice current info for Linux emulation.
I folloxed along on this thread, and I have had about half good luck. I
can run the Linux G2 player, yet all I get from my speakers is static.
The old player would work fine, but this one just does not want to work.
The video displays as well. Anyone know where I should look on this one?
Thanks
Jim
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Reply-To: "Pankaj Arora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Pankaj Arora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: YOURE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS! 5132
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:51:29 GMT
wrong newsgroup.
that post belongs in:
alt.i.am.weird
sorry couldn't resist :-)
--
Take Care,
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Pankaj Arora Software & paWare
http://www.sg-online.com/pasoft/
http://paware.dhs.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nails)
Subject: Re: Desktop items and suse login ??
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:54:51 GMT
On Tue, 25 May 1999 18:51:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(me!) wrote:
>On Mon, 24 May 1999 22:48:42 GMT, Confused! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>After installing suse 6.0, how can i reduce the size of my desktop
>>folders, taskbar, and the graphical suse login prompt which appear
>>twice the size than on a previous install??
>
>did you end up with a virtual screen larger than the actual screen?
>i.e. when you move the mouse to the edge does it scroll over?
No it doesn`t appear to.
However when i use YaST to try and adjust anything the text does not
fit onto the screen and i only see a portion of what i`m supposed to
e.g monitor h. freq>
1)50-70 (purely as an example) i might just see the 0 (after the 7)
the rest being off screen!!
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From: Stefan Boresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: autofs or am-utils, which one?
Date: 01 Jun 1999 08:41:26 +0200
Hm, I guess it would help if you described what exactly you
wanted to do. I have switched to autofs from amd starting with
RH 5.2. Under 5.2, I had problems with local auto.master files
reading NIS maps, so I had to hack the /etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs
script. Under RH 6.0, this works flawlessly. (For RH 5.2 I
use autofs on both the alpha and i386, RH 6.0 tested on i386
only (so far))
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 31 May 1999 18:30:16 -0400
Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I only need about 20 lines of code, should I really be doomed to
>download a bunch of more than 10MBs I never need?
>
Okay, then, e-mail me off-ng and I'll send you a copy of stdio.h from my
system.
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From: 4season <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: lilo+W98+RH6+2 HDs-solved!
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:23:38 -0600
Hope this helps someone: I spent hours fussing with it:
The situation:
hda1 is an 8.4G Maxtor IDE drive with Windows98 installed. It's
formatted as FAT32, and there's just the one large partition.
hdc contains Red Hat Linux 6.
I had problems with lilo on an earlier RH 5.2 install, and elected not
to install onto any hard drives during the initial RH setup, creating
instead, a bootable floppy disk. This worked okay: Boot from floppy when
you want Linux, otherwise W98 boots. Both OSes were running fine in this
manner.
But that didn't seem too elegant, so I figured I'd have another go at
lilo, particularly as linuxconf provides a very handy means of
configuring it.
Well, I read the help screens, plunged ahead and got a nice lilo prompt
at startup. Trouble was, I had trashed hda1, so Windows couldn't boot at
all. As the volume could not be mounted from Linux, and no files were
available from DOS, I guessed that I had overwritten something important
(maybe an FAT?)
I avoided the temptation of attempting to "repair" the damage or alter
the contents of hda1 in any way. Good thing too, because I stumbled upon
a mirror for the Linux Documentation Project at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/LILO.html#toc2
Which gives a very good rundown of how lilo creates a backup of your
pre-lilo Master Boot Record (MBR). For me, the saving grace was that
once the presence of of a backup file in /boot is detected, no further
backups take place, so, though I had attempted other lilo settings, my
original pre-lilo MBR was still archived nicely. I restored my MBR
following the directions of the LDP HOWTO listed above.
It finally dawned on me that, through my hda1 was the only partition on
the Windows98 drive, writing lilo there maybe wasn't quite right. So I
tried writing to /dev/hda instead.
This time, I got the lilo prompt at startup, but Windows98 *still* had
problems "Not a valid system disk", it said. But this time, the files
were accessible, so I figured I was at least partway right this time,
and hadn't actually screwed up the disk.
What else could be wrong? I looked at my various partitions using fdisk,
and it reported hda1 as a bootable partition, so that wasn't it. But it
did complain that my BIOS settings indicated a drive with 2047
cylinders. On a hunch, I went into my BIOS settings, and set up hda as
an LBA drive with 1027 cylinders. It worked! Windows98 boots fine, and
so does Linux, and thus, I go to bed bleary-eyed, but happy :-)
I hope this proves helpful to someone
Jeff
PS: on my earlier 5.2 install, I had attempted to install lilo on hdc,
and figured I'd select OSes by changing the boot order in the BIOS. But
for some reason, this never did work; dunno why. My motherboard is a rev
1.04 Asus P2B with latest BIOS, the hard drives are both 8.4G Maxtor
DiamondMax UDMA.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: vfat not supported!?
Date: 1 Jun 1999 09:37:50 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tuomo Louhivuori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>My problem is that now I get an error when I try to
>mount my FAT32-drives under linux. It says that vfat
>is not supported by my kernel (error 32 or something).
>I'm running RH6.0 out of box and it used to work just
>fine.
>
>The problem arose when I tried to make and install a
>program called wm_sensors. Actually I installed lm_sensors
>-packet (it's required by wm_sensors -frontend) first with
>no problems. wm_sensors make gave me a bunch of errors,
>unable to find .h -include files. Could this have messed up
>my system?
Maybe, but try use the verify option in rpm:
rpm -Va
and see what you get.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,nyc.seminars
Subject: Tuesday 1 June 1999 Meeting of LXNY: Planning for PC Expo
Date: 1 Jun 1999 07:38:46 GMT
LXNY will have a general meeting Tuesday 1 June 1999.
This meeting is free and open to the public.
The meeting runs from 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm. After the meeting full and
precise instructions on how to get to one of our traditional places of
refreshment will be given in clear.
Thanks to support of the IBM Corporation, the meeting is at their building
at 590 Madison Avenue at East 57th Street on the Island of Manhattan.
Enter the building at the corner of Madison and 57th and ask at the desk
for the floor and room number.
This meeting is mostly an organizational meeting for volunteers who wish
to help educate the grand public and businesses and the mass media that:
1. Free Software exists,
2. The foundation of the Net is Free Software, and
3. Free Software is better than Bound Software.
PC Expo, the large trade show put on by the Miller Freeman Group, will be
at New York's Javits Convention Center, starting 21 June 1999 and running
through 24 June 1999. We invite all partisans of the Cause, all
for-profit businesses and all not-for-profit organizations who use
Free Software to join LXNY in letting the world know the facts of the
case, our arguments in favor of Free Software, and our joy in using and
writing and sharing Free Software.
The Press today thirsts for our story. Let us give them what they want,
as hot and heavy as they can take it. Many businesses are today both
fascinated by and doubtful of the seeming paradox of cooperation and
competition among the people and the tribes of Free Software. Let us
explain what we can of our world. And finally, most home users of
computers do not yet know that today better OSes for what they do are
available at low cost. Let us tell them.
At the PC Expo there will be a special pavilion called The Linux Pavilion.
It is likely that this pavilion will be the first place that the mass
media go to find out about Free Software. Let us make sure that they get
as much of the story, and as much right, as we are able.
http://www.pcexpo.com
As always:
All who wish to volunteer to bring Free Software into schools and
libraries are invited.
All who wish to tell of successes of Free Software are invited.
All who wish to tell of failures of Free Software are invited.
LXNY will meet regularly the first Tuesday of each month at IBM throughout
1999. LXNY and its supporters thank IBM for the donation of this meeting
space.
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From: Predrag Vrankovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rlogin on redhat 5.2
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:04:25 +0930
I have two machines which are running Redhat Linux 5.2. I want to be
able to rlogin as root from one machine to the other. In order to do
this I have added the IP address of each of the machines to the
/etc/hosts.equiv file, as specified in the man page.
Unfortunately this does not work because when I try to rlogin I am
prompted for a password. Is there something that i have missed ?.
Predrag
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Lilo+W98=No boot-why?
Date: 1 Jun 1999 06:03:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 4season wrote:
>I am running Red Hat Linux 6 on hdc
>Why did installing lilo render my Windows98 non-bootable,
I have heard this enough times that I believe there is something to it.
There is something more to booting Win-98 than jumping to the beginning
of the chain loader with the right BIOS parameters in hand.
Something unpublished, that will eventually be
figured out by a die-hard with a logic analyzer.
Something LILO-21 doesn't know how to do.
Something put there to make dual-boot more difficult.
(If the DoJ really cared about enforcing the antitrust laws,
they'd be keeping a file of these things, even hiring people
with logic analyzers to verify them.)
>I installed Lilo on the MBR of hda1.
Never do that on your initial install. Never let Red Hat do it.
Make your LILO setup work on a floppy. THEN move the zImage to /dev/hda.
Make that work.
THEN move the map file. Make sure you can still boot everything.
ONLY THEN allow lilo to write LILO on /dev/hda.
Incidentally, your nothing-but-LILO floppy will boot nearly as fast
as your /dev/hda. If you make a new ext2 on the floppy the whole thing
will fit on the first track and it won't even *seek*.
Make three spare floppies (they go bad) and you'll
never have to risk that shaky Win-98 setup.
Yes, I know, everybody wants to make their distribution automatic,
and install with the minimum keystrokes and no command lines.
But we aren't there yet. Not while Microsoft changes things
all the time and they are still adding patches and kludges to the
IDE interface. (We had a 1023 cylinder limit and a 7.5 GB limit.
Where's the *next* one going to be?)
>Now I've seen plenty of coverage on how to rebuild or restore an MBR,
>but before I bother, can anyone explain why this problem happened in the
>first place?
Call me a conspiracy theorist. Microsoft is doing their best to
monkeywrench Linux, just as they monkeywrenched DR-DOS.
>Is Lilo just plain incompatible with FAT32 systems?
LILO does not know or care about file systems. LILO counts blocks.
"Oh boy, let's get this zImage-2.0.36! Block one, at LBA 12345.
Good. Block two, at LBA 54321. Yasser. Block three, at LBA 45678..."
The /sbin/lilo installer gets the block numbers from the kernel,
with a special system call, when it builds the map file. If the kernel
understands FAT-32 or UFS or whatever, then so does lilo.
Yes, you can put your mapfile and your zImage on your Microsoft
partition. Remove Outlook Express to make room :-)
>This
>boot menu business would be very handy--if it worked!
>
>And if it turns out that Lilo simply doesn't work well on a W98 FAT32
>MBR, would I fare better with Norton Commander? I already have a
>workable Linux boot floppy, but was looking for something more elegant.
The nothing-but-LILO floppy is elegant. It solves the whole problem,
including the risk to your Microsoft setup, and the cost and inconvenience
of acquiring Norton Commander, at no performance
penalty. Perhaps the distros will figure out how to do it someday.
Or tell the Marketroids to quit kvetching about floppies.
Or whatever the obstacle is. Let Microsoft have the MBR if they
want it that bad.
>And finally, getting back to the matter of the MBR, what is the
>preferred method of making it Windows-friendly again:
>
>--use fdisk /mbr from DOS?
If you have a Win-98 DOS floppy.
>--use lilo to restore it (I made a couple of changes to lilo already, so
>this is only an option for me if it stores the pre-lilo config, not just
>the previous one)
Look in /boot at the various boot sectors lilo has preserved. The oldest
one is Microsoft's. Use something like od -xc to verify that.
Then dd count=1 bs=512 < boot.whatever > /dev/hda
Or use lilo -u /dev/hda if that makes you squeamish.
>--have MS ScanDisk or Norton Utilities (latest) rebuild it
>
>Suggestions?
The nothing-but-LILO floppy is elegant, and it will be
in the next HOWTO rev.
Or see if your BIOS can be convinced to boot /dev/hdc. Some can.
Cameron
http://judi.greens.org/lilo/
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