Linux-Misc Digest #442, Volume #21               Wed, 18 Aug 99 00:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Alex Taylor)
  Re: Help: Caching webpages... (Firecow)
  Re: Single user mode (Chris Gregory)
  Re: Many found Mdk6 couldn't shutdown (Hankel O'Fung)
  Re: ICQ and linux client ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Attension !!! I can not instal 2nd linux in same disk ("Unknown")
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Paul Clay)
  Re: Ready to TRASH SuSE 6.1 (Michel Catudal)
  Re: /etc/bashrc file (Chris Gregory)
  compression on DAT tapes (Gustavo Adolfo Kellermann)
  Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Michel Catudal)
  Mandrake 6.0: Trouble with NFS (and FTP) install (Chris)
  Re: Help: Slow connection via telnet ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  ISDN or 2-56k Modems and RH 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... (Michel Catudal)
  Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode (John Hasler)
  Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0 (Ernie Graeler)

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From: alex@ifurita. (Alex Taylor)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:17:16 GMT

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:38:18 GMT, Zephyr Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>       Or, more importantly, how can I make the switch with as 
>little grief as possible?
>
>       For example, I'm already playing with RH 5.2 (waiting for 
>SuSe 6.2 to come out) and have been playing with AfterStep. 
>I'm looking for a WM or Xserver (am I showing my newbiness?)
>that most approximates the Work Place Shell on OS/2.  
>
>       I also would like suggestions on what things to 'tweak' in 
>X to make it work more like OS/2--I realize that X 
>(specifically XFree86) *is* different, but I used OS/2 Warp 
>3 for *years* and have gotten very comfortable and 
>productive with it (on a 486DX4-120).

The closest WM to OS/2's look-and-feel is probably icewm, but
is *is* just a windowmanager, so that doesn't go very far.

dfm is a file & folder manager which tries to emulate the WPS, but
it's got a fair distance to go (the interface is still a bit crude
and has a few differences - e.g. you drag with the left button).

Gnome and KDE as "Desktop Environments" get you the closest thing
to a fully integrated desktop, but they're both largely based on
the Windows look-and-feel (which I believe is a colossally stupid
idea, but never mind), although you can re-theme the "look"
somewhat.

The closest I got was icewm with dfm, fairly heavily customized.
It didn't exactly make me feel at home, but it was pretty comfortable,
and reminiscent of OS/2.

(I've since switched to Gnome and Enlightenment, though, mostly because
I like variety.)

You can make icewm (or Enlightenment, FTM) look superficially like
OS/2 (i.e., widgets & window controls etc.), but I don't like to --
makes it seem too much like a pale imitation.

-- 
==========================
Alex Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Firecow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc
Subject: Re: Help: Caching webpages...
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:23:09 +0800

Setup a own proxy server.

Jimmy Lio wrote:

> Right now my machines are connecting to the Internet thru a Linux box
> with IP Masquerading turned on.  What should I do to make the Linux box
> cache web-pages?
>
> Jimmy


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Gregory)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.security,comp.security,comp.security.unix,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.security.misc
Subject: Re: Single user mode
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:05:06 GMT

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:29:55 GMT,
   Jacques Bourdeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have a Linux box without the root password. The sysadmin who 
>have install it before me go away, leaving us without root 
>access to the server.

>I need to remove / replace / recover the password. The system is 
>Linux Slackware 3.6 using shadow password.

>I've try to boot in single user mode ( boot: linux -s ) but can 
>not edit /etc/shadow

>If I use the ROOT account, he ask me for the password and neither 
>blank nor dummy password work.
>If I use a regular account, I can not edit /etc/shadow and can not 
>use SU because he always ask for the root password.

>I need help about the single user mode ( if it's really what I 
>need to replace / remove / recover the root's password ) or help 
>about any other idea to access to the root account.



You should be able to move /etc/shadow to a temporary location where it will
not be found by login, then login should just use the info in the passwd
file.  Edit the passwd file to remove the password field for root.

root::0:0: # etc etc.

Then you should be able to login as root with no password.

It's unusual that you wouldn't be able to edit the shadow file.  Single user
mode normally makes you root, you should then be able to edit the file.  What
program are you using to edit the file?  The only thing I can think that
might not work is vipw.  Try vi instead.


Chris G.

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From: Hankel O'Fung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Many found Mdk6 couldn't shutdown
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:05:51 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Martin,

Thank you. I think I have done something wrong before. I did BOTH of the following
last night. Linux can now halt and reboot. I don't know if it is your solution or
another folk's solution that helps, but the problem is now solved, anyway. Thanks a
lot.

Martin Gelfand wrote:

>    Solution: upgrade to initscripts-4.16-30mdk.i586.rpm and to
>    kernel-2.2.9-27mdk.i586.rpm. An updated initscripts package is also
>    available:
>
>      rpm -Uvh initscripts-4.16-30mdk.i586.rpm
>      rpm -ivh kernel-2.2.9-27mdk.i586.rpm
> \end{quote}

Hankel O'Fung wrote:

> >Another person who faced the same problem gave me a reply in private. He
> >used the same distribution (Linux-Mandrake 6.0) and the same chipset
> >(VIA MVP3) as I used, and faced the same
> >problem. However, he fixed the problem on his machine in the following
> >way:
> >
> >> Change the last line of /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt from:
> >> Eval $command -i -d -p
> >> to
> >> eval $command -i -d
> >>
> >> This will avoid "halt" from trying to do a "powerdown."

Best wishes,
Hankel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ and linux client
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:23:59 GMT

The answer is yes, gtkicq can work with kde.

In the interim, I have downloaded the gtkicq client and the needed gtk+
and glib (including the devel's) RPM's (1.2.3) -- from ftp.gtk.org.  As
"su" I had to "rpm -i --force" the RPM installs on the glib and gtk,
"tar -zxvf" on the gtkicq file and then run "./configure
--without-gnome" in the created gtkicq directory. (Followed by "make"
and "make install").

Then I invoked "gtkicq &" in a terminal window.  Finally gtkicq appeared
on the KDE desktop!

It seems to work, but I can't get it to modify my user profile.

* * *

So much time on getting a working ICQ!  Using the Linuxberg site
reccomendations was a waste of time, for me at least. I tried the kde
version .. kicq, which popped up on screen but dies on a segmentation
fault.  I tried the command line micq, which works to some extent, but
not very well.  I installed jabber and went no further then looking it
over and thinking it was a bit too alpha-ish for me at this time. (It
was unclear to me that it does anything yet...)

But all I wanted to do was get an ICQ message to someone around noon
today, and I did not do so until 9 in the evening!

(I guess I could have rebooted to win95 -- but I hate putting off
getting my Linux profiency up.)


In article <7pcl4e$lsp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Yap Chen Kuang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Try gtkicq. You can get it from http://gtkicq.pn.org.
> >
>
> Does that gtkicq client work under the KDE desktop, or would I have to
> run the gnome desktop in order to use it?
>
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From: "Unknown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Attension !!! I can not instal 2nd linux in same disk
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:58:14 GMT


Hey first of all   I tried to use fdisk (linux of course) because I have an
long experience
(I have never used Disk Druid before) so fdisk gave me masage There is no
space to create a partition When I tried to add one and I have at least 1
1/2 Gb free disk space
I want U try by yourself.
I will try to do next I will erase Caldera. I will install Redhat After this
I will try install Caldera
Let 's try it  Maybe Something Wrong with fdisk of Redhat ( I have been
using fdisk of Redhat since 1997 Redhat 4.1)

>
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> \> Hi,
> >
> > There is no such thing "root directory already assigned to Caldera I can
> > not create second root directory". The misunderstanding comes from the
> > MS world where the C: drive has to be a primary partition *AND* has to
> > be the active one. In Linux, the active flag has nothing to do. What do
> > you use for your disk setup? Disk Druid? If yes, start using fdisk.
> > Although fdisk might be harder (I have never tried Disk Druid), but it
> > gives you complete control (and knowledge) what's going on with your
> > disk. To create another "root" partition is merely creating another
> > partition either primary or logical. And when you want to boot into that
> > partition, tell the kernel where it is. In lilo.conf, you are supposed
> > to specify the location of the root partition. In fact, you can use the
> > same kernel to boot different partitions. Or if you use loadlin, then
> > you have to specify the root on the command line.
> >
> > Vilmos
> >
> > --
> > Looking for a job in British Columbia.
> > http://members.home.net/vilmossoti/resume.html
>
>



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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:13 -0400
From: Paul Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?

Sure, I've done it (sort of).  I still miss the workplace shell (a lot),
and setting up Linux can be a trying experience (though it keeps getting
easier and easier), but, I finally had to acknowledge that OS/2 is going
practically nowhere (program development seems weak to non-existent) and
I have yet to have a misbehaving program lock up Linux (lockups still
happen to me with Warp, mostly, but not exclusively, related to my use
of Communicator - Linux is, in my opinion, staggeringly stable).

BTW, why _is_ it that Linux is so much more stable than OS/2?  Does it
all relate to the "single message que" that I always used to read
about?  I would continue to stick with OS/2, despite lack of program
development, since I pretty much have an OS/2 program for all my needs
and I do enjoy the workplace shell, but it still ticks me off to have my
system lock up.  (No flames, please, but even my Win95, though a p-poor
multitasking OS in comparison to OS/2, and therefore used by me to play
games only, neverthess, on my computer, locks up noticably less than
OS/2.)

Zephyr Q wrote:

>         Or, more importantly, how can I make the switch with as
> little grief as possible?
>
>         For example, I'm already playing with RH 5.2 (waiting for
> SuSe 6.2 to come out) and have been playing with AfterStep.
> I'm looking for a WM or Xserver (am I showing my newbiness?)
> that most approximates the Work Place Shell on OS/2.
>
>         I also would like suggestions on what things to 'tweak' in
> X to make it work more like OS/2--I realize that X
> (specifically XFree86) *is* different, but I used OS/2 Warp
> 3 for *years* and have gotten very comfortable and
> productive with it (on a 486DX4-120).
>
>         I'll ask about comparable apps in a different post.
>
>         Thanx.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~  Finding his place in   ~
> ~   Cosmos,               ~
> ~  Directed only by Him   ~
> ~   who created the       ~
> ~    Kosmos               ~
> ~               Zephyr Q  ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Please remove "I HATE SPAM" to
>  reply to e-mail address.


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Ready to TRASH SuSE 6.1
Date: 17 Aug 1999 21:29:08 -0500

Gilbert Groehn wrote:
> 
<stupid ranting removed> 

> My problem;
> 
> Got the entire package installed and configured to what I
> thought was there.   It turns out all of the Applix applications
> were expired demo's that would not work and they also had
> dependencys to other packages. When I removed the Applix
> applications it totally screwed up Kppp.
> 

A demo, bothered to read the date on the box? Talk about other
stuff than demos that are known to expire at one time or another.
Out of 5 CDs, 1 demo not enabled doesn't mean much.

> I got KDE  up and properly configured and was able to log on
> to my ISP through Kppp a couple of times.  Next Kppp kept
> returning a message that the pppd daemon had 'died unexpectedly'.
> I reloaded the ppp.rpm several times to no avail.  This happened
> (I think) after the bogus Applix expired demo packages were
> removed.  Think they must have had dependencies to Kpp somewhere??
>

Your mistake was to use that kppp garbage. SuSE comes with wvdial which
is the suggested dialer. It works real well by the way. A bit of reading
would have helped a lot.
 
> When I finally got through to Suse's help line they said ...oh yes..
> we know about this.  You must get a patch on our www  FTP site.
> How in the hell do you get a patch if you can not log on.  The
> SuSE rep. then guided me through setting up 'wvdial' which will
> in no way connect to my ISP (worldnet.att,net).   It dials in fine
> but without the CHAP and DNS values that are I had entered in
> Kppp there is no way to conect to ATT without CHAP or a script.
> 

wvdial wouldn't have had that problem. My isp needs pap and wvdial
found out right away and always uses it now.

> My intent is to learn LINUX and I now need to know if there is a
> commercial package available that will minimize the installation
> bugaboos so that I can start learning.
> 

Bitching about stuff that works for everybody else while neglecting to
notice your lack of knowledge isn't a good way to get helped.


> I must say that the plain text version of SuSE worked flawlessly
> and minicom also dialed out oK.
> 
> I appreciate all of the help you folks have given me in the last
> few days but I am at the point where I am fed up with SuSE and
> I'm looking for the best package that is available....at any
> reasonable cost.
> 

KDE isn't SuSE and blaming SuSE for KDE's bugs isn't very smart.

> I picked up a limited version of CALDERA that came with a SAM's
> book on learning Linux and will give this a try until I find the ultimate
> package.
> 


HA!HA!HA!

If you think the KDE bugs aren't going to follow you, got some
good swamp land to sell ...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Gregory)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: /etc/bashrc file
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:45:02 GMT

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:24 +0530,
   KARAMVEER SINGH(97007053) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> > Why not put the .bash_logout you want in /etc/skel, make it owned by
>> > root and not modifiable by them?
>> 
>> it'd probably be easier to get the source for bash.  grep for
>> .bash_logout and code it so it'll run /etc/bashlogout too.  compile,
>> install, voila.
>
>hey can u explain what did u say above...john..


I just got the latest version of bash (2.03) and it comes with a
configuration option for a global logout file.  I put mine in
/etc/bash.logout

Chris G.

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From: Gustavo Adolfo Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: compression on DAT tapes
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:12:38 -0300

    I have a SDT-S9000 Sony's DAT unit, and I'm running Red Hat 5.2,
kernel 2.2.10. I just want to made compressed backups. I've tried
mt -f  /dev/st0 defcompression 1
and
mt -f /dev/st0 compression 1
but it didn't work.

Has someone a suggestion?

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Rua Silveiro, 1111 - Porto Alegre - RS - Brasil

Estudante de Ciencias de Computacao na UFRGS
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: 17 Aug 1999 21:54:04 -0500

brian moore wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:30:47 GMT,
>  Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I got my modem up and running and only my soundcard and scsi don't work.
> > The guy who wrote the OSS drivers told me that I couldn't get my Audiotrix
> > 3D-XG soundcard to work under Linux.  So which low cost ISA soundcard is
> > the best?  I don't want a really awfull one but I don't want a really
> > expensive one (50-60$ would be nice :) and I want it to work with Linux
> > very well.  Could anyone help me with this?
> 
> You can get an AWE64 "value" (ie, with only 512k of RAM for the wave
> table) for $15 or so used without looking hard at all.
> 
> Works great, though the midi sucks (but, then midi always sucks compared
> to mp3's or mods) unless you use timidity, and then it still sucks, but
> that's midi's fault, not the card's. :)
> 

Midi works great on mine, but then I use OSS Sound. It comes free
with SuSE. SuSE 6.2 should be out in the next couple of days
according to a EMAIL I got from SuSE tonight. Just make sure you
get the ISA card so it will work with the free OSS driver.

I paid $34 for a brand new card at A2Z. They're in Ohio and I got
my card after a couple of days.

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use Linux for safe and quick internet access
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: 17 Aug 1999 21:57:05 -0500

Alan Lee wrote:
> 
> Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > Seems like Soundblasters are good.  Ensoniq seems good also.
> >  There are drivers for
> > SB Live from Creative.  SB 16 is easy A lot of people
> >  have problems with AWE 64.  SB 128 seems to work pretty well also.
> > Jeanette
> 
>     Mine is SB 128... but it DOESN'T work at all! When I do sndconfig,
> it tells me that "sox: /dev/dsp not known". Does anyone know what it means?
> How can I get it work??? My kernel is 2.2.9
> 
> Alan Lee


Buy the 4-Front driver for $20


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Mandrake 6.0: Trouble with NFS (and FTP) install
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:15:19 GMT

I have 2 machines networked (one of which has an ADSL to the Net). One
is a Win98 machine, and the other is an old Pentium I'm attempting to
put Linux on. I wanted to do an NFS install, so I booted up the
machine I want Linux on with bootnet.img, and take it from there. I's
dead easy - kudos Mandrake! The only problem is, when I specify the IP
and directory where Mandrake is, it doesn't work. I get a very general
error back saying it couldn't mount that directory on that server.

I thought the problem might be that I was saying C:\ instead of hda/,
so I tried the latter, as well as /hda/ and other variants (I don't
know Unix so at that point I was flailing). Stuck, I figured rather
than limp about for hours I'd suck it up and do an FTP install instead
- since I have ADSL I figured it'd be doable, if a little painful. But
I got the same problem - it didn't like the IP/path combo.

The FTP path was quite a bit of guesswork - it's unclear to me
precisely what path is expected, as the path to Mandrake is lengthy
and deep. I tried several variations but to no avail. Is there anyone
who has experience with doing an NFS install from Windows, or an FTP
isntall, who can tell me what my problem is?

Also, a suggestion for Mandrake - I like the install, but I could
really benefit from some more detailed error info. I'd like to know
whether the problem is my path, or I'm not reaching the Itnernet, or
something else.

Thanks!
Chris

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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc
Subject: Re: Help: Slow connection via telnet
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:39:20 +0800

Jimmy Lio wrote:
> 
> I've set up a simple network with two Win'95s and a linux box
> (Mandrake). The Win'95s obtain their IPs via dhcpd running on linux,
> with IP ranges between 192.168.1.10 ~ 192.168.1.100; the linux box has
> IP 192.168.1.1.  The subnet mask is set to 255.255.255.0.  I've also
> recomplied the kernel so that the two Win'95s can connect to the
> Internet via IP masquerading.  These things work every time I restart
> the system... and I'm quite satisfy with the performance.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ISDN or 2-56k Modems and RH 6.0
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:29:27 GMT

I am deciding on ISDN vs. 2-56k modems for faster internet access. I am
too far from the telco co so these are my only choices using todays
technologies.

Linux- What I need to know is which is easier to setup under RH Linux
6.0 ? <as I don't have alot of spare time (who does?)>.

Thanks,
David.
--
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NetWare / IntranetWare / NT Integration Specialist
New Redhat Linux 6.0 user ;)


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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Date: 17 Aug 1999 22:25:13 -0500

"J. Otto Tennant" wrote:
> 
> I don't really have anything to add, but I thought I'd emphasize
> some things Teonanacatl (?) said.
> 
> Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >I had installed Warp 4 first, and then Linux, and when mounting the
> >paritions at Linux install time, I specified that I wanted access to the
> >hpfs partitions on the drives.  This has been very handy, as I have
> >address books, bookmark files in Netscape, which I can access from
> >Warp4, and also many files, especially on my Warp desktop.  I can access
> >them by merely changing to my /hpfs directory in Linux.
> 
> I may be a bit out of date, but I had thought that the Linux hpfs
> was r/o.  It would be nice if I were out of date.
> 

It is now standard R/W with kernel 2.3.x and is very stable.

> There is an OS/2 ext2fs driver.  I found that it did odd things to my
> Warp 4 system and removed it.  (That is strange, since it was rock-solid
> under Warp 3.)
> 

Like screen dump followed by a crash.
I don't use OS/2 much anymore because my sound Card was crashing,
an ESS1869, so I bought an AWE64 which works great under SuSE
with the 4-Front sound driver but don't work at all with OS/2.
I get an error trying to setup the plug and pray. I tried the
driver which was supposed to work with the AWE64 as well with no luck.

> On the other hand, it has been so long since I've used my OS/2 system
> for anything but recovering old DeScribe documents that my memory may
> have failed (an increasingly common occurance.)
> 
> I'm about ready to wipe my OS/2 partition.  I'm embarassed to admit
> that I have a W98 system.  I run Parsons Technology Money Counts on
> it.  Personal checkbook software is the *only* reason I retain
> either OS/2 or Windows.  The Linux stuff isn't ready yet.
>

It is sad that IBM has abandonned us. I still feel unconfortable
about wiping out my OS/2 partition, you're not alone.
 
> Sometime, I may take a Saturday off from my usual reading/drinking
> and convert all of my old DeScribe files to something Linux
> friendly (Word Perfect 8 comes to mind.)  And *then* I'll delete
> OS/2.
> 
> (This is really sad, since OS/2 is a fine system.)
> 
> >After owning and using several Red Hat versions for Intel and Alpha, I
> >recently bought a killer version of SuSE 6.1 at a local Hasting's for
> >29.00.   Not only did I get a GREAT manual, but 5 cds worth of programs,
> >boot disks.  The install/ maintenance of the system via YaST is smooth,
> >and the KDE environment is spectacular.  I'm sold.  It'll take a
> >bulldozer to get me back to Red Hat.
> 
> Bingo!  I'd like to endorse this preference for SuSE 6.1.
> 
> (On the other hand, I also have RedHat for a Sun workstation,
> and it seems to work OK for my purposes.  The thing is just
> used as a file server on my home network.  It seems to me that
> it boots up with GNOME (KDE?) as its desktop.  My primary
> objection to prior releases of RedHat was that I could not figure
> out how to change desktops.)
> 
> YaST is very easy to use.
> 
> I think SuSE 6.2 will be released in a week or two.
> --


In a couple days to CompUSA according to a EMAIL I got tonight
from SuSE.

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:23:41 GMT

> made pppd suid root, and owned by group pppusers

Owned by a group?  That makes no sense.  Make pppd suid root, in group
pppusers, and executable by the group, like this:

-rwsr-x---   1 root     pppusers        126256 Aug 11 20:20 /usr/sbin/pppd

I would be surprised if Mandrake did not ship pppd already set up like
this (though the group might have been something like 'dip').
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From: Ernie Graeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0
Date: 18 Aug 1999 02:50:21 GMT

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Christopher R. Redinger" wrote:
:> 
:> Kelvin Leung wrote:
:> >
:> > Yes, there is a alpha version of G2 from real.com, I forget the URL,
:> > anyone knows? It's in www.real.com.
:> >
:> > Kelvin
:> >
:> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ralph Blach
:> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> >
:> > > Hi,
:> > >
:> > > is there a real audio player for Redhat 6.0 yet?
:> > >
:> > > Chip
:> 
:> I've got the alpha G2 installed, but I'm wondering how in the world to
:> get netscape to recognize that there is a plugin available for
:> RealPlayer files? I've done the setup like they describe in their FAQ to
:> tell netscape about a helper application for the mimetypes, but Netscape
:> still tells me I don't have a plugin available for the
:> audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin mimetype.
:> 
:> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
:> 
:> Thanks,
:>    Christopher
:> http://www.broadcastmusic.com
: I found when I went to set up netscape that there already was
: an entry with the above mime type.  But the instructions from
: Real Audio tell you to use the mime type
: audio/x-pn-realaudio
: Of course you also have to specify the program to call
: which I think should be
: /usr/lib/RealPlayerG2/realplay %s
: but you can browse for it.
: Make sure you don't have multiple entries for the G2 mime type
: in netscape applications.

: -- 

: Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
: Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

That still doesn't answer the first question... Is there a real audio player
for RH 6.0 yet and if there is where can it be gotten?

Thanks in advance,
Ernie.
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