Linux-Misc Digest #446, Volume #20 Tue, 1 Jun 99 08:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Michael Powe)
mkISOfs on vfat-partition and other CDR related problems (Torsten)
[Fwd: Calibrating Delay Loop...HELP!!!!] (Mike Sutton)
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Michael Powe)
Remote Printing (Rich Jones)
FS: 7 Sun SPARCStation 1 ; $65 each ("Kent Rankin")
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Jamie)
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Michael Powe)
FS: Digital VAXStation 3100 ; $100 ("Kent Rankin")
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Carl Fink)
Re: About RealPlayer G2... (Carl Fink)
FS: 2 Digital VAXStation II/GPX ; $50 each ("Kent Rankin")
FS: Assorted Digital Monitors ("Kent Rankin")
Re: NT the best web platform? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: NT the best web platform? ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: LILO not working without (empty) 2nd HDD? (p)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Keith Phillips)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Jun 1999 01:01:06 -0700
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>>>>> "Maciej" == Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Maciej> Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >>>>> "Maciej" == Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> writes:
Maciej> A) I'm not claiming Switzerland is the ideal model, or
Maciej> that their model even scales to larger and more culturally
Maciej> heterogenous countries. I am claiming that the high
Maciej> availability of guns in a society is not even demonstrated
Maciej> to have a correlation with a high rate of violent crime by
Maciej> the example of Western Europe.
>> You are correct. Cross-cultural comparisons such as the one
>> made between Suisse & the US are generally useless.
Maciej> Or such as the one between England and the US or between
Maciej> France and the US or between Japan and the US, etc.
Yep. One of the most telling character traits of American
conservatives is how frequently they can be found publicly admiring
oppressive societies.
>> The reason the Swiss are able to keep guns in every closet &
>> still have a safe society is that they had the necessary social
>> structure in place to begin with.
Maciej> Ah, but there you go assuming you know what cultural
Maciej> factors are relevant, even though a great many differ. It
Maciej> would be an interesting experiment to examine the
Maciej> incidence of violent crime among US residents of Swiss
Maciej> descent vs. the general US population and vs. the Swiss
Maciej> population, thus isolating the factor of "social
Maciej> structure" from other, more vague sociocultural factors.
No, I didn't assume any such thing. Read more carefully.
>> In any event, it's obviously stupid to claim that firearms in
>> the hall closet reduce the incidence of assaults and rapes
>> outside the home (the argument of the RTKBA'ers here).
Maciej> ??? Please quote me a single person who made that
Maciej> argument. Certainly people have claimed that concealed
Maciej> carry of small arms reduces the incidence of rape and
Maciej> assault outside the home and presented some statistics to
Maciej> back that up. Others argued that increased gun ownership
Maciej> leading to less crime was a local minimum of sorts, that a
Maciej> society that had practically no gun availability to the
Maciej> general public would have even lower rates of violent
Maciej> crime.
>> The US is a violent country, with its entire history dedicated
>> to the celebration of violence.
Maciej> Oh please. I am a native European by birth and I would
Maciej> sooner walk the streets of Boston at night than the
Maciej> streets of Budapest. The majority of Americans are quite
Maciej> decent people. How many times have you been outside of the
Maciej> US? If you find the view from Portland that ghastly, you'd
Maciej> better not go out and look at other countries without
Maciej> bringing your heart medication.
That's nice, but irrelevant. I've never been in Boston but I know
from the accounts of others that there are plenty of areas on Boston
where you would <not> want to be wandering at night.
>> Gun control is simply a first step in ending that worship of
>> violence.
Maciej> Ah, I see you have the hubris of a would-be social
Maciej> engineer. You think you can reason out from first
Maciej> principles exactly what the social ramifications will be
Maciej> of huge new laws forbidding something you don't like. You
Maciej> remind me of the people who think banning pornography of
Maciej> certain sorts will eradicate the desire of certain men to
Maciej> commit sexual violence.
Ah, I see that you prefer the hubris of the "kill 'em all and let God
sort 'em out" group. I don't see where your hubris is any more
"enlightened" than mine. You've decided to start from the Maoist
first principle -- "all power from the barrel of a gun" and ignore
everything else. I don't know why you guys can't see that all you do
is perpetuate violence be declaring yourselves willing to be just as
violent as the criminal. Further, and worse, your penchant toward
violence is theoretical -- you can have all the fantasies you want
about what you'll do to somebody who threatens you, but it's
completely irrelevant to the actual experience.
>> As we can see from this discussion, most Americans, no what
>> their class or race, still consider killing as the best method
>> of "crimefighting."
Maciej> Frankly, if someone were actively trying to kill or
Maciej> seriously hurt me I hope I'd have the means and courage to
Maciej> frag their ass, if the police were not around to do it for
Maciej> me. And I can tell you in all sincerity that I am the most
Maciej> nonviolent, conflict-avoiding person I have ever met.
This is the usual argument of the gun-lovers. The answer is, that the
short term issue of self-defense is not equivalent to the long-term
issue of ending violence. If people put half as much effort into
creating a non-violent community as they do into defending their right
to be violent, we could make progress toward making the streets of
American cities safe at night.
Maciej> What solution would you suggest in such a situation?
Maciej> Assuming I don't have time to call in a crack team of
Maciej> social workers, psychologists and other would-be social
Maciej> engineers to counsel the attacker and solve the "root
Maciej> causes" of his desire to be violent towards me?
Well, I've lived in an urban environment for the last 12 years. I've
never lived in suburbia, though I have lived in rural areas. I spent
two years in the "hood," during which time 2 people were shot and
killed on the sidewalks only a few blocks from my house. I spent many
summer evenings with my activities punctuated by the sound of gunfire.
I've witnessed a running gun battle between two cars driving down the
street by my house. I once woke up to the sound of somebody emptying
a clip right behind my house. I managed to get through those years
without owning a gun and, indeed, without even thinking about it. I
frequently have the feeling that most of these proponents of
"concealed carry" don't actually spend much time in environments where
gun use is an everyday affair. They get all their ideas about
firearms from Arnold Schwartzenegger and Charles Bronson movies.
Self-defense is not the issue. We live in a society in which
aggression toward other members of the society is acceptable behavior
- -- that's the issue. In order for you to be effective with a firearm
in an altercation, you have to be capable of being just as violent as
the the person attacking you. That means that at the point of
conflict, there's no difference between the two of you. This seldom
happens in real life, that is why the criminally violent are so
dangerous. Now if you want to pump yourself up to a level of
psychotic violence, in order to feel "safe" -- you should see the
contradiction. I recall a guy telling me once about his experience
training in martial arts. He got so "into it" that he was always on
the alert. One day, a friend came behind him and grabbed him by the
shoulder -- without thinking, the guy turned around and laid his
friend out on the floor. I saw this same type of behavior with a
friend of mine, as well. We were sitting in a car, waiting for
someone. A bum came up and knocked on a window. Again in blind
reaction, my friend kicked the car door open & knocked the bum flat.
It scared him -- as well it should.
If you want to live that way, you have my sympathy. But you're just
creating more violence and making things worse for the people that
come after us.
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: Torsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mkISOfs on vfat-partition and other CDR related problems
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:04:29 +0200
Hello,
I'm just trying to learn how to burn CDRs on Linux. Though I read a lot
of HowTos and articles about this topic, I've still got some problems.
Yesterday I encountered an error, when I tried to create an image
(600MB) on a vfat partition:
#dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dosd/wocimg/bootcd/boot.img bs=10k count=144
#mkisofs -a -f -v -b boot.img -c boot.cat -o /dosd/cdr/bootcd.img
/dosd/cdr/bootcd
"""""
During the image creation process the estimate finish was increasing
fast, until the system rebooted after approx. 1 hour. (The data files on
the vfat partition lead to no problem.) When I'm using a ext2fs
partition for the image the creation finishes successfully after 5
minutes. (The whole CDR-buring-exercise had a happy end with: cdrecord
dev=6,0 speed=4 -dummy -eject -v /cdr/bootcd.img)
The vfat partition is mounted with umask=000. In spite of this I
couldn't delete the boot.cat file written by mkIsofs after the
unintentional reboot. (Eventually I deleted the file with Win95.)
I just want to know if there is a bug in the vfat-fs / mkISOfs or if
I've done something wrong.
Other problems:
Copy the data track of a mixed mode cd
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I haven't managed copying a mixed mode cd yet. In the application
examples of cdrdao I found the following line, but dd finishes
immidiatelly after reading/writing 12 blocks of data.
# dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cddata_1 bs=2048
I tried other statements, too. With a normal data-CD there's no problem,
but mixed mode always fails.
## CD-Writing-HowTo:
# dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cdimage bs=1c count=`isosize /dev/sr0`
## Better, because the blocksize of 1 byte in the exymple above means a
very slow copying process.
## count-value: isosize /dev/sr0 divided by 1024 or mount and df
#dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cdimage bs=1k count=188710
Easy way to burn all WAV-Files in a directory
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
As far as I know I've got to write down all files as a parameter with
cdrecord or in a TOC-file with cdrdao.
But sometimes I have to burn CDDAs with many tracks.
Let me know if you have a script or if you know an option in cdrecord /
cdrdao I could use. (I prefer cdrdao, cause I want to have the resulting
master-CDR copied by a CD-manufacturer.)
Ready scripts
"""""""""""""
I propose to collect the most used CDR-scripts in a faq, HowTo or on a
homepage. If you know such a site, faq..., please let me know. IMHO
there should be more information on the topic 'burning with Linux'.
Maybe there are some specialists who can answer my questions. I'm
heading for kicking my win95, since I wrote a CDR successfully,
formatted a floppy disk and worked with LaTeX simultaneously. (With
Win95 and Easy CD Creator 3.5 I didn't manage to create a bootable CDR,
for the automatic floppydisk-image-creation failed every time. Grrrr! %[
)
Thank you.
Torsten Scheck
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From: Mike Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Calibrating Delay Loop...HELP!!!!]
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:32:01 +0100
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Subject: Calibrating Delay Loop...HELP!!!!
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:40:25 +0100
From: Mike Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Pure Genius
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.setup
Hello People,
I have encountered a problem whilst installing RedHat 5.2 on an old
Elonex 466DX2.
It boots up past PCI probing and then displays the message
'Calibrating Delay Loop', after which its hangs indefinately...
I have been advised that this might be due to old hard drive(s).
Admittedly the hard drives are from the era when 520M was the norm...
The machine is
Elonex 466 DX2
12M RAM
520M HDD (Fujitsul)
Anyhelp is appreciated on this one guys.
Mikey
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Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Jun 1999 01:05:09 -0700
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>>>>> "Mircea" == Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mircea> For watching CNN, I may have a solution for you, if you
Mircea> cannot setup your realplayer 5.0 as a plugin. Go to
Mircea> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html and
Mircea> download the G2 player for Linux, it plays the CNN content
Mircea> (which is encoded as crap, anyway) flawlessly. It doesn't
Mircea> come with a plugin, though. To make it work, make sure you
Mircea> have installed libstdc++-2.8.0-14, the one that comes with
Mircea> RedHat 5.2, because it won't work with any other version.
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. I have libstdc++-2.9.0, though
- -- I just upgraded recently.
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Jones)
Subject: Remote Printing
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:11:37 GMT
Hi
I've been trying to get this working, reading manuals and how-to's, but
something just aint right. I have Slack3.5 (2.0.34) running with a local
printer on /dev/lp1. I also have RedHat6.0 (2.2.5-15) running on a local pc.
On the Slack machine, gateway, I setup the printcap as follows:
lp:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:mx#0:if=/var/spool/lpd/nostep.
pl:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/ps-err.log:sh:
On the RedHat box, called mars, the printcap looks like:
lp:lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:mx#0:rm=gateway.xxx.
com:rp=lp:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/err.log:
When I print on mars, I get "lpd: your host does not have line printer
access". When I saw this error, I figured I needed to add hostnames to the
hosts.lpd file. But it didn't help. I noticed the jobs are being spooled,
and copied to the spool directory. But never print.
Is this error I am receiving on mars related to a possible missing module?
I also had problems with GhostScript as a filter. When I set it up as a
filter, I get GS>GS>GS>GS on the page. But if I issue the command at the unix
prompt, the job prints after I issue a 'quit' at the GS> prompt. Any tips at
setting up GS properly?
Also, I do have samba installed, and Win95 has no problem with it. I would
like to setup the printer using printcap.
Please reply via email, cuz my ISP sometimes has a hard time getting ALL of
the newgroup articles.
TIA
Budman
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: FS: 7 Sun SPARCStation 1 ; $65 each
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:39:55 GMT
The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
Each contains the following(outside of the motherboard, CPU, P/S, and
case; most of the following are obvious, but hey...<grin>):
Floppy drive(standard, but hey... I'm trying to make them
sound beefy,
eh? There is only *SO* attractive a basic
workstation can
sound)
16MB RAM
Framebuffer(cg3 SBUS card)
-Kent Rankin
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From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:49:30 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anthony Ord wrote:
> >It is amazing the number of people that do not realise that Win 95 is
> >running on top of DOS just like 3.x did. They just put a (not so)
>
> Some people deny it point-blank when you clue them in. They
> come up with all sort of funny explanations...
I think M$ started the myth by refering to Win 95 as an OS. They still
call Win 98 an OS. If when either is "starting Windows 9x" you press F8
you can go to the command prompt or step by step startup and see it all
laid bare. I would say that DOS is the OS (IMHO).
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All comments expressed should be assumed to be
my opinion only and you need to get your own
opinion before you spend any money.
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Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Jun 1999 01:07:24 -0700
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>>>>> "Mircea" == Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mircea> Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>> Besides putting as "rvplayer %"? I don't see
>> rvplayerplugin.so anywhere. I use RH5.2+NC4.08. Anyway, I
>> have /usr/lib/netscape/plugin as empty subdirectory while
>> /usr/lib/netscape/java/classes has couple of files. Are you
>> sure you've tried this, not using yourWin95+NC4.6?
>>
Mircea> Yes, I'm sure, I'm using it right now on my Slackware 3.6,
Mircea> kernel 2.2.6, Netscape 4.07. It works. The actual name of
Mircea> the plugin is librvplayer.so (couldn't check while I was
Mircea> at work, where I have to use this crappy windblows). If
Mircea> you put in in /home/<yourusername>/.netscape/plugins,
Mircea> together with RAObserver.class and RAPlayer.class, you'll
Mircea> be able to use it as a plugin, too.
Well, there's something screwy here, because that's exactly my setup &
it won't install as a plugin. Slack 3.5, kernel 2.2.7, NS 4.6 (but it
was the same with 4.08).
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec
Subject: FS: Digital VAXStation 3100 ; $100
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:43:57 GMT
The unit is located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
It includes the usual stuff(MMJ serial ports for console and printer,
graphics port, ethernet, SCSI-2, status lights, etc) plus a floppy drive and
hard drive(amazing, the innovations these days...).
It also has an LK401 keyboard that will go along with it.
-Kent Rankin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Jun 1999 09:22:52 +0200 Villy Kruse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>got me! I have no idea what 'chip on my shoulder' could be
>>m.
>
>American slang expression. Something to do with stop up and listen for
>a moment, and accept that other people also might be right.
"Having a chip on your shoulder" means "looking for a fight".
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: About RealPlayer G2...
Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 06:03:21 GMT Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I folloxed along on this thread, and I have had about half good luck. I
>can run the Linux G2 player, yet all I get from my speakers is static.
If your problem is the same as mine, try turning the RP volume to its
lowest setting and you'll get very distorted but recognizable sound.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: FS: 2 Digital VAXStation II/GPX ; $50 each
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:46:32 GMT
The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
They are pretty loaded with QBUS cards, and have the 8-serial port
option cards from some MicroVAXen. They also have two RD53's(the standard
hard drives for VAXStation II's) a piece.
Do send any questions that you might have.
-Kent Rankin
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From: "Kent Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
Subject: FS: Assorted Digital Monitors
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:51:26 GMT
The units are located in Knoxville, TN, 37922-3449.
They consist of the following:
(8) Digital 19" model #VR262 $40 each
(2) Digital 19" model #VR290 $75 each
(1) Digital 19" model #VR299 $100 each
(2) Digital 19" model #VR319 $100 each
(1) Digital 19" model #VR320 $115 each
Anyhow, do send any questions that you might have. I can send photos if
that would help at all.
-Kent Rankin
P.S. - No, I don't mind shipping them. In fact, if UPS will manage it, I'll
send them to
Saturn for you.
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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Jun 1999 07:53:41 -0400
"Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
> >"Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Jimmy Navarro wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >> >If NT is the best web platform, it has to be available for free. Be
> sure
> >> your
> >> >NT has no memory leak.
> >> >
> >> it is free. That's been fixed.
> >
> >it is? are you sure? perhaps you should let bill gates know about
> >this. he's under the impression that nt was proprietary.
> >
> Yeah and he gave it away. check out www.microsoft.com IIS and all the fixes
> downloadable from there.
that's just IIS. will it run on anything other than NT server? if
not, then it's a moot point. IIS costs can be rolled into NT server's
price. *NT* afaik is *not* free.
> >(this has nothing to do with the suitability or non-suitability of nt
> >as a web server.)
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Reply-To: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:04:17 -0700
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Johan Kullstam wrote in message ...
> > >"Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >> Jimmy Navarro wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >> >If NT is the best web platform, it has to be available for free. Be
> > sure
> > >> your
> > >> >NT has no memory leak.
> > >> >
> > >> it is free. That's been fixed.
> > >
> > >it is? are you sure? perhaps you should let bill gates know about
> > >this. he's under the impression that nt was proprietary.
> > >
> > Yeah and he gave it away. check out www.microsoft.com IIS and all the
fixes
> > downloadable from there.
>
> that's just IIS. will it run on anything other than NT server? if
> not, then it's a moot point. IIS costs can be rolled into NT server's
> price. *NT* afaik is *not* free.
>
Either is a professional UNIX.\
>
> > >(this has nothing to do with the suitability or non-suitability of nt
> > >as a web server.)
>
> --
> J o h a n K u l l s t a m
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Don't Fear the Penguin!
Who would?
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From: p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LILO not working without (empty) 2nd HDD?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:12:29 GMT
test
Joachim Feise wrote:
>
> John Girash wrote:
> :
> : In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : : I noticed something very disturbing the other day: I have 2 HDD's; one
> : : of them (/dev/hda) contains all software and LILO, the other (/dev/hdb)
> : : does not hold any Linux partitions or bootsectors. Recently I
> : : disconnected the unused one, and it would not boot any more! Not at all!
> : : I got "bad magic number" and freeze (on subsequent attempts I got an
> : : incomplete LILO prompt). Booting from the rescue disc did not work
> : : either. Can someone explain why LILO depends on unused hardware, and how
> : : I can switch this off? I don't want to have a dead system some day just
> : : because an unused piece of hardware fails.
> :
> : I'll bet this is a hardware problem, not a sw one. (Hints: the "magic number"
> : message, and the rescue disc -- which should completely bypass LILO on hda --
> : not working). Some IDE drives have different jumper settings for "master of
> : two drives" and for "lone drive on this IDE channel"; perhaps your hda does.
> :
> : Or it could be a loose cable.
> :
> : Just disconnecting the power cable isn't enough, the data cable has to go too.
>
> And you also need to remove the BIOS entry for the disk.
>
> -Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 1 Jun 1999 10:16:33 GMT
On Mon, 31 May 1999 14:21:01 -0500, Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke unto us, saying:
For some reason I could never figure out, SuSE 6.1 simply would not
see my printer until I added parallel printer support to the kernel,
instead of leaving it as a module. Once I did that and recompiled,
printing went just fine. Go figure. :-)
>> Now, if SuSE would only add printer support to their shipped kernel... :-)
>
>I don't understand. I have SuSE 6.1, and had 6.0 and 5.3, all supported
>printing just fine. I imagine there would be quite an uproar if SuSE
>shipped something that didn't support printing.
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