Linux-Misc Digest #467, Volume #20 Wed, 2 Jun 99 21:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Universal Serial Bus ("Mauro Goretti")
Re: "su" always returns 0 (Andreas Dilger)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Miguel Cruz)
Re: RH 5.1 version.h file!!! (Lev Babiev)
Re: The Glass Cathedral (Johan Kullstam)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is This Illegal? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: samba in as root? ("Adam C. Emerson")
Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me (Mike Kerr)
Re: SuSE 6.1 module disk ? (Ralph Miarka)
Re: Is Gnome slow? ("Adam C. Emerson")
Re: RAID 1 setup (steve)
Re: telnet in as root? ("Adam C. Emerson")
Re: AfterStep or KDE or ...? Which one? (Ed Young)
redhat 6.0 fprintf core dumps using objects from 5.2 (Ron Stanonik)
Re: lp: driver loaded but no devices found (Robert =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6gberg?=)
Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Moving files from Win95 to Linux (Scott Lanning)
Re: Revising the LILO mini-HOWTO (James Bean)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Jim Richardson)
Re: Does this OS exist? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Mauro Goretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Universal Serial Bus
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:25:14 +0200
I have only a question: can I use my USB mouse with LINUX? And how can I do
it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Dilger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: "su" always returns 0
Date: 2 Jun 1999 22:16:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bryan Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Even worse, performing the following command as root, where the file
>/tmp/xxx does not exist:
>
> su - bbrandt -c "cat /tmp/xxx; echo $?"
>
>Produces:
>
> cat: /tmp/xxx: No such file or directory
> 0
If you try: su - <user> -c "cat /tmp/xxx; echo \$?"
you should get back:
cat: /tmp/xxx: No such file or directory
1
and if you try: su - <user> -c "cat /tmp/xxx"; echo $?
you should get back exactly the same thing. Note that if you try:
su - <user> -c "cat /tmp/xxx; echo \$?"; echo $?
you will get back:
cat: /tmp/xxx: No such file or directory
1
0
because the "echo" was executed without error. I tested this on Slackware.
Cheers, Andreas
--
Andreas Dilger University of Calgary \"If a man ate a pound of pasta and
Micronet Research Group \ a pound of antipasto, would they
Dept of Electrical & Computer Engineering \ cancel out, leaving him still
http://www-mddsp.enel.ucalgary.ca/People/adilger/ hungry?" -- Dogbert
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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:05:02 GMT
Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Chad Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> *NT* afaik is *not* free.
>>>
>>> Either is a professional UNIX.
>>
>> I take it your definition of a professional Unix is "one that is not
>> available for free."
>
> Essentially, hobbyists don't have the discipline to do it properly. For
> examples look at Disk Druid, and RH 6.0.
I don't see where that's an answer. But in any case, your contention is that
if one thing is not done to your satisfaction, then the entire model
provides nothing of value? I can certainly point you to a lot of profoundly
broken commercial software.
I guess the lesson ends up being that all hardware and software is worthless
for "professionals".
miguel
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 5.1 version.h file!!!
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:18:29 -0400
Sounds like you didn't install kernel-headers and make. Just install
those rpms
to fix this immediate problem.
- Lev
> I don't have a version.h file on my Red Hat 5.1, kernel version
> 2.0.34-0.6 computer. I also don't have the /linux directory under the
> /usr/include directory.
> Red Hat doesn't recognize the "make" command, so I can't do a make
> config in order to generate the version.h file.
> Any ideas on what I can do?
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make really crappy | irc: CrazyLion, #linuxlounge @ EFnet
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- Linus Torvalds | Linux forever!
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: The Glass Cathedral
Date: 02 Jun 1999 10:36:25 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier) writes:
> Of course, we all know where distributors' and system
> administritors' moolah comes from: an inadequacy between the system
> offered and the needs of the general public. There's absolutely not
> a shade of a doubt that Linux, an OS that overwrites files without
> prompting, is not for the casual user. This fact has been recognized
> by M$ at least since DOS 3.
perhaps they recognized it. however they didn't do anything about
it. ms-dos in all its incarnations happily deletes files with out
prompting the user. the greater-than can redirect and clobber files
with nary a query as to intent.
i suppose there are very few OSes that you would recommend for the
casual user. and what about the power user? i need to use my
computer every day? i do *not* want it dumbed down to cater to some
half-wit who uses it once a month. that's just assine.
and besides, prompting is the wrong solution. always prompting is
just plain annoying. no thanks, i'd rather do without.
imho the *proper* solution is to have a two-step deletion and allow
backup versions (like tops-20). a backup just exists until expunged.
notice that neither unix nor ms-dos/windows do that either. for both
systems, delete and forget is just too ingrained in the whole nature
of the system and its user/development communities.
--
johan kullstam
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:41:50 GMT
According to Ruiming Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The Subject askes its all. Are they the same free database software with
> two names?
> Or they are two different free database software?
> Are they both run on Linux?
MySQL started out as a set of matches to mSQL by a team of application
programmers who wrote a package arround mSQL. When they realized the
limitations of mSQL, and that no amount of patches would get arround
them, they re-wrote their own database engine internally from the
ground up, but maintained (more or less) the same external (mSQL)
interface.
This is why they look so much alike. It has been a while since I have
played with either (I've moved on to commercial packages) but last I
checked MySQL is a more powerful product. mSQL, though, is easier to
set up and a bit more lightweight.
-p.
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Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:45:07 GMT
According to K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Thanks to everyone who either e-mailed or posted a follow-up to my post.
No need to apologize at all. As others have said, in some cases it is
completely legal to dupe and sell distros, so long as you make sure
that you do not include any commercial software. This is exactly what
CheapBytes does, although how they make a profit selling CDs at
$2.00/ea is beyond me...
-p.
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba in as root?
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:25:15 GMT
[ Followup-To set to comp.os.linux.networking ]
In comp.os.linux.misc Charles Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ Reformatted for width ]
> Is there any way connect to the linux box using the samba service as
> root?
> Currently, I am connecting with my user account, but I did not want to
> extend root priveleges to this account.
> While we are on the topic, is there a way to FTP in as root.
> I am aware of the security risks, but I still would like to know how.
These are DPU things to do, but. . .
Remove root from the invalid users field in /etc/smb.conf
and remove root from /etc/ftpusers (paradoxical, no?)
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their
ways and repent. -- Honest Book of Truth
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From: Mike Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:09:27 -0400
Yes, but when people ask, "So, what OS you runnin' these days?" it sounds
soooo much cooler to answer, "Why, Red Hat, of course." than to say "Me, I
like Soooze." I mean, "Sooze?" Come on, really.
Paul wrote:
> SuSE 6.1...what a deal. After 2+ years, I finally gave up on
> Redhat--paying $70 for the core software then going online for hours
> to download the rest of what I wanted just wasn't for me. SuSE had
> everything I needed and about 2 gigs more (5 CDs!!). Great setup
> utility--much better than Redhat's. Incredible deal at around $40.
>
> The most helpful utility is their online hardware compatiblity page
> (http://cdb.suse.de/cdb/english/)--
> since I was in the market for a new computer, I was able to sidestep
> incompatible hardware.
>
> The 400+ page manual is incredibly informative, and provides
> everything you need to get started and even covers some more advanced
> topics like faxing, kernel improvement, etc.
>
> I appreciate the publicity Redhat has given Linux, but I refuse to pay
> $70 for slick marketing and commercialism.
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From: Ralph Miarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 module disk ?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:07:39 +0000
from the disk sub-directory of your distribution
or otherwise at ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/6.1/disks
modules: Meanwhile not all modules fit on the bootdisk. Therefore this
modules floppy exists. If you do not find the driver for your
hardware on the normal disk, just insert the modules disk
as soon as linuxrc starts.
HTH,
Ralph
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Gnome slow?
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:34:21 GMT
Cliff Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just installed Red Hat 6.0 (on top on 5.2 -- the "upgrade" option
> didn't work, it killed the mouse) which comes with a new X window
> manager (seems to be more than a window manager, though) called
> "Gnome". This looks real good but it runs like MacPaint on a 128K Mac,
> maybe a little slower. My brother suggests increasing my RAM from the
> present 16 MB to 64 MB, and I'm sure that would help, but even with 16
> MB I'd expect a menu response in less than two or three seconds, which
> is what Gnome gives me.
> Any comments?
> Thanks!
Lose gnome, get rid of enlightenment, and get lwm, flwm, or
similar.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their
ways and repent. -- Honest Book of Truth
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From: steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RAID 1 setup
Date: 2 Jun 1999 15:31:11 GMT
Art S. Kagel wrote:
>
>
> Al Nios wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to implement a RAID 1 (software) using linux 2.2.5 - I've
read
> > all the relevant FAQs.
> > I've created two partitions /usr and /usr2 on different disks and
would like
> > to mirror them. When I follow the instructions (mkraid /dev/md0) in
the new
> > software FAQ, I get a "device is busy" error and I cannot umount the
> > partition. If there a way (and is it a good idea) to create the raid
before
> > the devices are mounted?
>
> Yes. You mirror the disk partitions (unmounted) then create the
> filesystem on the mirror device (/dev/md0) and mount that.
>
> Art S. Kagel
How do you get raid to start at boot-up? How does one know if RAID is
RAID'n? I can get it to start by raidstart -a, but it doesn't start when
I boot. How can I test it? When I disconnect the master drive, I get a
kernel panic message. Thanks y'all!!
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet in as root?
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:15:44 GMT
[ Followup-To set to comp.os.linux.networking ]
In comp.os.linux.misc D. Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ Reformatted for width ]
> On Sun, 30 May 1999 TRG Software wrote:
> Logging in as root and su'ing to root have the same security risk
> because the password is sent as plain text for anybody to read. Use
> ssh for greater security.
Obviously ssh is better, but at least with su you have a record of who
did the suing. rlogin/rsh/rexec should be dumped with alacrity in
my opinion, turning off in.telnetd, using ssh for all logins, and
leaving telnet for playing MUDs.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19/
Preach from it unto the Righteous, that they may renounce their
ways and repent. -- Honest Book of Truth
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AfterStep or KDE or ...? Which one?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 00:04:48 GMT
Yibing Fan wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just started to use linux a month ago. Slowly, I am getting
> everything running my way. I just switched to AfterStep and then I
> heard about KDE. I read about it, and now I am confused about so many
> choices of desktop environment. Which one do you recommend?
>
> I need a good file manager, I tried mc, xfm came with RedHat5.2 and
> later dfm. mc still need a lot improvement to be in the same league as
> its windows counterpart. I can't stand xfm. dfm is OK but still fall
> short. KDE's file manager must be great, as I read. But is that the KDE
> a resource monster?
I use AfterStep. I like it. It has a very clean interface.
I use FileRunner for my file manager, after trying a number of them.
This works for me, and isn't too heavy on the resources. YMMV
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Stanonik)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: redhat 6.0 fprintf core dumps using objects from 5.2
Date: 3 Jun 1999 00:04:51 GMT
After upgrading from redhat 5.2 to 6.0, one of our applications
began core dumping in fprintf. The cause appears to be using
objects from 5.2. For example, here's a simple program which
consists of three files, main.c, proc.c, and makefile. make
on a 5.2 system and a.out hello. Then copy all of the files
to a 6.0 system, rm a.out main.o, make, and a.out hello. For
us it core dumps in fprintf. Instead make clean, make, and
a.out hello. No core dump. Perhaps this is well known?
Thanks,
Ron Stanonik
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
main.c
#include <stdio.h>
proc(s)
char *s;
{
fprintf(stderr, "%s\n", s);
}
proc.c
#include <stdio.h>
proc(s)
char *s;
{
fprintf(stderr, "%s\n", s);
}
makefile
CFLAGS=-g
a.out: main.o proc.o
cc -g main.o proc.o
clean:
rm -f *.o a.out
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From: Robert =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6gberg?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: lp: driver loaded but no devices found
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:45:47 +0100
Hi, I've had some very odd experiences with the printerport on my model 80 system
running Slackware + kernel 2.0.36.
I had a similiar problem to Georg, the printerport was not found by the kernel
but it worked just fine to print from DOS for instance. So I played around with a
few settings and finally found what was the problem.
The kernel was able to detect lp0 *only* if I had a monitor connected to the
computer. Now this sounds weird but that was the case. However I solved this by
setting the printerport to lp1 in the system's BIOS and now it works just fine
even without a monitor attached to it.
Seems like the PS/2s has some really weird bugs in them. You could try some
various settings in the BIOS and such things. I suppose there's no easy solution
to the problem.
/Robert
Georg Schwarz wrote:
> Su Wadlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >No, you don't need a special driver, but you do need
> >parallel support somewhere. You can have it compiled
> >into the kernel, or compiled into a module that either
> >is loaded at boot or that you load later. It seems to
> >be most common to have it compiled into the kernel.
>
> I did so:
>
> in 2.0.35:
>
> CONFIG_PRINTER=y
>
> In 2.2.9:
>
> CONFIG_PRINTER=y
> CONFIG_PARPORT=y
> CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
>
> >Type in 'dmesg' at the prompt, piping it through your
> >favorite filter (like 'less' or 'more'), and look at
> >the boot messages. A line or two past the Linux
> >version, you should see information about first the
> >serial port(s) and then the parallel port(s). Do
> >you see anything about 'lp0' or 'parport0'? If not,
> >then you most likely don't have parallel support,
> >or at least you aren't loading at boot.
>
> /var/log/dmesg contains:
>
> Linux version 2.2.9 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.7.2.3)
> #17 Sat May 29 19:27:06 CEST 1999
> Console: mono EGA+ 80x25
> Calibrating delay loop... 3.51 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 9076k/10496k available (680k kernel code, 408k reserved, 304k
> data, 28k init)
> Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...
> No.
> CPU: 386
> Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using old IRQ 13 error reporting
> Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> Checking for popad bug... Buggy.
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> Micro Channel bus detected.
> Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
> Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> Starting kswapd v 1.5
> Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
> ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> lp: driver loaded but no devices found
>
> so looks like the kernal does not autodetect the parallel port. Maybe this
> is a bios problem? (it's a PS/2 machine after all). Should I try to
> specify something with lilo?
>
> >Did the 2.0.35 kernel that you're using come from the
> >MCA Linux Homepage at the dgmicro site? I know for a
> >fact that parallel support is *not* included in that
> >kernel. If you're using this one, you'll have to apply
> >the MCA patch to the standard 2.0.35 source and
> >recompile.
>
> exactly what I did.
>
> >I can't say anything about the 2.2.9 kernel as I'm
> >not using it . . . . yet. I'm planning to set up a
> >system in the near future on which I play with stuff
> >like this.
>
> the above output is from a 2.2.9 I compiled specifically for the PS/2
> model 70 with 3c523 ethernet card.
>
> --
> Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
> Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
> Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Name-brand boxes VS clones, what to buy
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:59:05 GMT
In our last episode (31 May 1999 01:33:38 GMT),
the artist formerly known as brian moore said:
>On Thu, 27 May 1999 16:58:42 -0700,
> Clayton Lenderbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello All,,
>>
>> Im wondering about anyones {pos,neg}ative experiences with the
>> following list of machines that I could buy:
>>
>> packard bell synera model mu955, k62-333, (or mu850, cyrix mII-300)
>>
>> acer aspire model 1878R k62-333 (or 3060R k62-350) (or 6070R pII-350)
>>
>> ibm aptiva e5d (pII-400, 2xDVD)
My experience has always been that buying a name brand just causes you to
pay more for crappier hardware (integrated no-name video chips, no name
sound boards, proprietary memory designs...) At any rate, I've personally
witnessed the explosion of at least two Packard Bell computers. IBMs are
bizarre and I hate the BIOS. I can't say anything bad about Acer machines;
last time I looked, Acer had some pretty cool looking cases, at least.
Personally, I'd suggest that if you are at all adventurous (you're going to
run Linux, right?) and you own a screwdriver that you just buy the parts
and put them together yourself. It's not really that hard. I suppose
there is a chance you could destroy some the hardware during the
installation process, but I've never heard of anyone doing that, except for
one guy who took "zero insertion force" a bit too literally and bent the
pins of his CPU. Just make sure you discharge any static electricity by
touching the power supply or case before handling any of the electronics.
--
It is pitch black.
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Moving files from Win95 to Linux
Date: 1 Jun 1999 21:18:38 GMT
Jay Bigelow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Pardon my ignorance, but I'm fairly new to Linux. How do I make sure
: it's a binary download? <G>
[bottom:/grad/slanning]ftp strange
Connected to strange.bu.edu.
220 strange.bu.edu FTP server ready.
331 Password required for slanning.
Password:
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> binary
200 Type set to I.
ftp> cd smut/raunchy
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> get hardcore.gif hardcore.gif.ftp
local: hardcore.gif.ftp remote: hardcore.gif
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'hardcore.gif' (52695 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
52695 bytes received in 0.27 seconds (192.16 Kbytes/s)
ftp> bye
221 Goodbye.
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From: James Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Revising the LILO mini-HOWTO
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:46:48 +0000
hi,
One thing that drove me crazy might merit inclusion in the howto.
My system is booted to win95 and two linux partitions. When writing
LILO from one Linux system it affects the other (there is only one MBR).
I was getting the kernels booting from the 'other' Linux, very
confusing. What is required is to make sure the other "/boot" partition
is mounted when LILO is run and use the full directory IE
"/mnt/other/boot/vmlinuz" in the lilo.conf.
cheers Jim Bean
Cameron Spitzer wrote:
>
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> Back when dinosaurs walked the earth and I wrote LILO mini-HOWTO,
> my three computers gave three interesting examples. But I got
> too busy *using* Linux to study it or even stay current enough to
> run sgmltools, and things got more complex. The HOWTO got stale.
> Much stuff that belongs in a LILO HOWTO is scattered across other
> HOWTOs, and there are unanswered LILO FAQs in the newsgroups.
>
> The free software community has done so much for me I'd be a jerk
> not to revise the old doc. But I need your help, because my five
> Linux boxes ain't an adequate survey no more.
>
> Is there a question about LILO you're tired of answering?
> Do you have a kernel command line that was hard to figure out?
> Have you managed to get past the 1023 cylinder limit and the
> 7.something GB LBA limit?
> Do you have a cool multi-boot setup you're dying to share?
> Are you the master of EZ-Drive and OnTrack Disk Manager?
> Do you know what packages must be installed to build the Lilo
> User Guide from its LaTeX sources, and where to get them?
> Do you have a favorite mirror for fetching stuff like lilo-21.tar.gz?
>
> Then you can help revise the old mini-HOWTO!
>
> Visit http://judi.greens.org/lilo/ and post your questions,
> or your answers, or your annotated lilo.conf, or your FAQ+answer,
> or your FAQ sans answer, it's easy. Be a hero. Share your knowledge.
> Once there's some stuff, I'll get a new mini-HOWTO out.
> (Yes, Werner and Alessandro said okay.)
>
> BONUS: the Lilo User Guide and Tech Supplement in PDF
> are there. Click on "well-documented."
>
> Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 23:31:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1 Jun 1999 18:41:16 GMT,
John Edstrom, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <7ifla2$jg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Simon Burr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> In <7if65l$kfb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Edstrom) writes:
>>>Olaf Walkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> Apache has to do a lot of work (depending on the actual configuration)
>>>> doing uri/filename translation, detecting the right mime-type, looking
>>>Is this true? If squid ignores .htaccess constraints it would be a
>>>security risk.
>>
>> Squid does not deal with .htaccess constraints as it does not have to. Using
>...
>>
>> It should be noted that the use of password authentication results in the
>> content being protected not being cached by Squid. In other words, every
>> request to a password protected page results in a hit on the backend web
>> server.
>>
>
>Ok, that is what I had hoped. My concern was that the original post
>seemed to imply that if somebody gave the name/password, the page
>could be cached and subsequent clients could then pick that page up
>from the cache without being challenged since squid knew nothing about
>the access/authentication constraint imposed by the server.
>
>So, going back to the original thread, squid doesn't help performance
>with pages protected by these authentication schemes. The request
>gets passed to the backend server which then does the usual
>rewrite/../autentication thing.
>
>> Another important note is that with Squid being used in reverse proxy mode,
>> all requests from clients should go to the Squid frontend. This means that
>> the machine running Squid makes the request to the backend web server. Thus
>> host based access controls no longer work. Personally I do not see this as
>> much of a problem as IMHO username/password authentication is better than
>> plain host based access controls.
>>
>
I think images can still be cached though. (not sure, but I think so.)
--
Jim Richardson
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.minix,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Does this OS exist?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 23:33:45 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Martijn van Buul
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: It occurred to me that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in comp.os.minix:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahum.
: Don't I know you from a certain flamewar between comp.sys.cbm and
: comp.sys.sinclair?
Yup.
:)
:> Why would you want one? Apart from the single user/single tasking thing,
:> linux fits the bill nicely.
: I never really understood why an OS should be single user, single tasking
: AND running in protected mode in the same moment.
: If there's only one process, what's the use of protecting things?
I was wondering why he was looking for a single user/single tasking thing at
all...
:> But... As you didn't specify a CPU architecture...
:> Another one that comes close is QDOS (The QL operating system based on the
:> 68000 CPU). It's single user, but again, it's multitasking...
: Sinclair again ;)
Of course... But it is the closest thing I could think of.
: Okay! The Commodore Amiga... [SNIP]
Still 68000 based though...
:)
ST could fit as well, I suppose.
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