Linux-Misc Digest #467, Volume #21 Thu, 19 Aug 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux file-size limit? (John Thompson)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Matthias Benkmann)
Re: LCP timeout error with pppd (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: tcl (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Anyone done this ? (citrix winframe) (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... ("Dann Corbit")
Re: Help with Glibc 2.0 Installation! (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Controlling Linux through a COM port (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Interested in using Linux (Wayne Power)
Re: sendmail, forwarding, dns lookup (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux? (Oliver Rudolph)
Re: LINUX to Windows CE handhelds? (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: MS Proxy server req NTLM auth: MSWSP for Linux? (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux file-size limit? (Allen Crider)
Please give me rain for my file-descriptor drought (Dave Jenkinson)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... (EKK)
Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode (Clifford Kite)
Re: Software for slowing down music -- Linux! (Jeff Mead)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Craig Brozefsky)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Andrew Stephenson)
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux file-size limit?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:55 -0600
Carlos Collazo wrote:
> I'm trying to backup a 5Gig ext2 partition onto another ext2 partition
> on another hard drive. No matter which software I use, BRU, taper, tar,
> TkZip, etc., I get the same outcome--when the growing archive file
> reaches 2147482624 bytes it stops! The smarter backup software such as
> BRU says to (insert the next volume). When I use tar in the following
> manner:
>
> tar cvZX /root/tarexclude.lst -f /mnt/sdc1/rhonibmide.tar.Z .
>
> I get "write error onstdout file too long, broken pipe"
>
> Info / Observations:
>
> 1. I do not have quotas enabled.
>
> 2. I'm running as root.
>
> 3. It is not related to the compression utilities, since it also occurs
> without compression enabled.
>
> 4. Running RedHat 5.2. I also own several other distributions if this
> is the problem.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Is there a limit to the file size hardcoded in the kernel?
AFAIK, this is an intrinsic limitation of the filesystem.
>
> 2. What do I have to recompile in order to solve this or get around it?
Rather than backing up to another partition, you can backup
to a device that does not use a filesystem; eg, a tape
drive. Tar can handle multi-gigabyte archives on a tape
drive without size limitation problems beyond the physical
limitations of the media used.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Benkmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:08:23 GMT
On 18 Aug 1999 19:38:46 +0100, Tim Izod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Or in preference, use the ALSA driver
>(http://www.alsa-project.org or look on freshmeat). The ALSA drivers
>are free, they're GPL and IMHO they sound better. Plus you get
How can they sound better? The sound is created by the sound card,
after all. I don't see how one driver makes a 22Khz sample byte stream
sound different than another driver. MSB
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LCP timeout error with pppd
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:25:29 +0200
Try building a connection manualy with seyon or minicom.
And check if that works. If this goes wrong then you probably need to set
some settings into your modem.
If this goes great then you probably have ppp problems. But I would'nt know
wich ones.
Perhaps your modem uses sotfware flowcontrol instead of hardware. A at &f
wil set the modem in it's defaukts wich work 99% of the time.
Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was setting up a computer for a friend when I ran into a problem
> getting connected to an ISP by ppp. I always get a modem CONNECT, but I
> can only login about one in three connects. Once I'm in, pppd works
> fine. I have tried this with three differant ISPs, all with the same
> result. I used three differant programs (plain pppd scripts, wvdial and
> kppp), but I can still only get in every once in a while. I changed the
> modem speed, flow control, timeouts, etc., all to no avail. Here is an
> exerpt from syslog:
>
> --- cut here ---
> Aug 13 16:37:21 arthur03 kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of
> the University of California
> Aug 13 16:37:21 arthur03 kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
> Aug 13 16:37:21 arthur03 kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
> Aug 13 16:37:21 arthur03 kernel: registered device ppp0
> Aug 13 16:38:04 arthur03 pppd[422]: pppd 2.3.5 started by arthur, uid
> 500
> Aug 13 16:38:04 arthur03 pppd[422]: Using interface ppp0
> Aug 13 16:38:04 arthur03 pppd[422]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> Aug 13 16:38:04 arthur03 pppd[422]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic
> 0x1f35be6c> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> Aug 13 16:38:31 arthur03 last message repeated 9 times
> Aug 13 16:38:34 arthur03 pppd[422]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
> Aug 13 16:38:34 arthur03 pppd[422]: Connection terminated.
> Aug 13 16:38:34 arthur03 pppd[422]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Aug 13 16:38:34 arthur03 pppd[422]: Exit.
> --- cut here ---
>
> The modem is a Elsa Microlink 56k Basic, and I'm using SuSE Linux 6.1
> with a 2.2.7 kernel.
>
> I'm not really sure if this is a software or hardware problem, but I
> would appreciate any input.
>
> BTW I've had this problem for a couple of days now, so please no jokes
> about the Friday the 13th :-)
>
> David Lowry
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: tcl
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:08:32 +0200
About the turtle card, try looking into the OSS Open Sound System or
ALSA wich is a free alternative for OSS. OSS costs 49$
Raymond
Icculus wrote:
> 2 questions:
>
> Does anyone know of any online tutorials for the tcl scripting language?
>
> Does anyone know of any sound drivers being developed for the Turtle Beach
> Montego 2 sound card? It supports A3D and I haven't found anyhting yet
> that will un this under linux.
>
> thanks,
> Icculus -- a new gu
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone done this ? (citrix winframe)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:56:53 +0200
Installing the Citrix client is very easy and fast.
So A small script will be enough that will copy those files to the
clients.
A sorry you mean setting up Linux on those machines.
I read a very very cook article on booting diskless Linux stations in
the LINUX-Magazine issue 08/99 this is a German magazine. Perhaps that
would be something for you.
The author his name is: Dirk v. Suchodoletz from the University of
Goettingen.
Raymond
peter wrote:
> A customer has about 2000 computers in their netowork.
> Many are old 486 and P60.
> They have made the decision (sp?) to use Office2000.
> That would mean that they would have to buy a lot of new computers,
> someone came up with the idea to use citrix winframe.
> Still they were uphappy, bacause the cost of all win95 licenses.
> I saw my window of upportuney (sp?) and talked a bit about linux.
> There is a citrix client.
> Now, has anyone automated the insallation process ?
> There are about 15 different types of machines.
> I was thinking about using NFS, but the partitioning and all
> have to be automatic, anyway anyone heard of a company done
> something like this ?
> Would need some references to help me fight the opposttion.
> Be well.
> //Peter Hellman
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From: "Dann Corbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:59:44 -0700
EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What is the maximum array size, using GNU C compiler?
>
> It looks like g77 complains after about 12000000.
Assuming doubles, that's about 100 megabytes. Do you have:
0. 100 megs of memory?
1. User rights to a block that large?
g77 is a Fortran compiler. Why are you asking in news:comp.lang.c?
> I'm considering getting an Alpha system with 2GB RAM, but
> don't know if I'll be able to compile software to handle
> it.
> Would a 64-bit system make a difference? I would guess the
> compilers would have to be re-written.
There are definitely compilers that will allocate huge amounts of memory.
For a problem that large, you should seriously consider looking into
commercial optimizing compilers. KAP has a preprocessor for Fortran. It
could make a considerable difference in performance.
> Is there a commercial compiler which could handle this
> size?
Probably. But we have no idea what architecture you are using. I think
you'de be hard pressed to find one for (for instance) CP/M.
> Anybody got any idea? I had never considered a 64-bit
> system such as Alpha before, but now might be the time...
We use them here, and I love them. But we Run OpenVMS and commercial
compilers. I have no idea how G77 would fare on such a beast.
> Anybody using g77 on Alpha, do you know if there is a
> limitation?
Try one of the Fortran groups after reading their FAQ first.
--
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Help with Glibc 2.0 Installation!
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:06:07 +0200
Looks like your libs are still out of date or to new.
But perhaps it is usefull to upgrade your box with a new version of SuSE,
RedHat or Debian wich already use glibc2.1 wich is starting to be standard
by now.
Raymond
Kenny Zhu Qili wrote:
> Hi there. I was installing glibc 2.06 when I had the following error:
>
> spinlock.h: In function `acquire':
> In file included from manager.c:32:
> spinlock.h:20: warning: implicit declaration of function `__sched_yield'
> manager.c: In function `pthread_start_thread':
> manager.c:162: warning: implicit declaration of function
> `__sched_setscheduler'
> manager.c: In function `pthread_handle_create':
> manager.c:229: warning: implicit declaration of function
> `__sched_getscheduler'
> manager.c:230: warning: implicit declaration of function
> `__sched_getparam'
> manager.c:241: warning: implicit declaration of function `__clone'
> manager.c:242: `CLONE_VM' undeclared (first use in this function)
> manager.c:242: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> manager.c:242: for each function it appears in.)
> manager.c:242: `CLONE_FS' undeclared (first use in this function)
> manager.c:242: `CLONE_FILES' undeclared (first use in this function)
> manager.c:242: `CLONE_SIGHAND' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make[2]: *** [/tmp/glibc-2.0.6/compile/linuxthreads/manager.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/glibc-2.0.6/linuxthreads'
> make[1]: *** [linuxthreads/others] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/glibc-2.0.6'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> Looks like my pthread lib has some problem. But I have already installed
> linuxpthread 0.3.71 and I have used it without problem. Plus I have
> included linuxthreads add-on with the compilation. Could someone tell me
> what went wrong? Thanks.
>
> Kenny
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Controlling Linux through a COM port
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:44:55 +0200
Than try using minicom on your Linux box. This is a serial terminal emulator.
Raymond
Adam JBC wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Psion (palmtop computer) attached to COM2 on my PC.
>
> It has a terminal emulator, VT100 I believe.
>
> Can I get it set up so I can issue commands on my psion, and get the results on
> my Psion's screen?
>
> If so, how?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam.
>
> btw> i'm a 'linux newbie' so i'd appreciate it if the instructions are easy to
> follow, oh and I normally use KDE, if there's a K app which does the trick, oh
> and my installation is Linux-Mandrake.
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From: Wayne Power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Interested in using Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:30:20 -0400
"Noah Roberts (jik-)" wrote:
> I like Slackware best, and it will also save you room.
>
> > I already have a 3.1 Gb Hard disk partitioned into a 2.0Gb which carries
> > Win '95 and a 1.1 Gb "D" drive which is basically blank apart from
> > downloaded files stored in a folder but there is still over 800Mb of
> > free space .The machine is a Gateway 200 with 83 Mhz overdrive processor
> > 32 Mb Ram ,Rockwell soundcard
> > Intel Motherboard with onboard video (1Mb Video Ram)
> > Rockwell 56K V90 Modem ,HP 690 Desk jet Printer and Parallel Port Iomega
> > Zip Drive .
>
> Don't know about the video and modem, but the rest looks fine
If the modem is internal PCI and it shows up in Windows' Device Manager
as a Windows Modem, it won't work. I have an intel TX Motherboard with
onboard video and I could not get X to recognize it. It may be possible, but
I gave up, disabled it and put in a video card.
Good luck,
--wmp
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail, forwarding, dns lookup
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:13:32 +0200
What is th eproblem of those DNS queries?
This is normal behaviour. A ip address will be reversed looked up and DNS will
resolve a ip address when you issue a host name.
If you do not want DNS queries than you should enter all these hosts in you
hosts file and change the lookup method in the /etc/host.conf
to
order hosts bind
Raymond
Dave wrote:
> I'm forwarding mail to a 192.168. address from my IPmasq machine using the
> /etc/aliases file for certain users. All is workign well, execept I get DNS
> querys for the hostname I'm forwarding to.
>
> After perusing Dejanews, I tried using the /etc/service.switch. I modified
> the semdmail.cf file and restarted sendmail. I'm still getting dns lookups
> when mail is forwarded. Can someone verify my configurations?
>
> sendmail version 8.9.3-10
> -
> /etc/hosts (other stuff in here, not sure if it matters)
> 192.168.2.2 ice.mydomain.nu
> -
> /etc/resolve.conf
> search localhost
> nameserver 24.0.162.12
> -
> /etc/aliases
> ice: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
> /etc/service.switch
> hosts files
> aliases netinfo files
> -
> /etc/sendmail.cf (other stuff of course)
> # service switch file (ignored on Solaris, Ultrix, OSF/1, others)
> O ServiceSwitchFile=/etc/service.switch
> -
>
> Is this all correct?
>
> --
> Dave.-- The email address above does work :)
>
> My pid is Inigo Montoya. You kill -9 my parent process. Prepare to vi.
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From: Oliver Rudolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which soundcard is best for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:11 +0200
> How can they sound better? The sound is created by the sound card,
> after all. I don't see how one driver makes a 22Khz sample byte stream
> sound different than another driver. MSB
Well, there's slight a difference between all the soundcards
available... Don't forget about the MIDI-Chips. I think the Yamaha XG
ones are the best. So go for a Waveforce 192XG or something like that
Best regards,
Oli
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX to Windows CE handhelds?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:48:58 +0200
Those handheld PC's don;t have common CPU's in them that Linux support
cuurently.
But you have Linux running on a SideWinder wich is a lowcost very small
NetPC system wich runs on a STrongARM CPU. And a company called ICE is
using Linux on static RAM (8 or 16M) for there NetPC's
Raymond
David Rabanus wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> has there ever been an attempt to port LINUX to Windows CE
> handhelds? Most handhelds are without disks so that it might have
> to be a "stripped" window manager...
>
> Thanks in advance - David.
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Proxy server req NTLM auth: MSWSP for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:42:03 +0200
First of all:
Why run MS-Proxy based on SOCKS? I hate SOCKS it isn't transparant and
MS-Proxy sucks big time. A linux box compiled with masquerading capacilities
works as a transparant internet connection. No additional SOCKSIFIED clients
needed. And if you would like to cache HTTP and FTP requests instaal Squid.
Seconf:
There are SOCKS5 libraries/headers for Linux. There is also a SOCKS5 based
proxy on Linux.
http://www.socks.nec.com
Raymond
Johan Hartzenberg wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I've got my linux machine on a lan that access the internet via a proxy
> server running MS Proxy Server on NT. The Proxy server is configured to
> require Authentication against the NT domain.
>
> For non-MS Internet Explorer clients, this happen through MS Winsock Proxy
> Client. Does this exist for linux?
>
> Has anybody tried to run mswspclnt under WINE?
>
> _Johan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:31:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And WTF do you have to declare this array statically?
>
> would it make a difference if I didn't declare statically AND
> needed that much room?
>
> BTW WTF don't you spell out your cute TLA's?
>
> AG
Some compilers put static and dynamic memory in different areas. Some
compilers have limitations on static memory size, but the limit on
dynamic memory is based on the amount of memory in the machine.
An N-bit machine does not guarantee that it contains a lot of memory.
If I have an 8-bit machine with 32M of memory and a 64-bit machine with
16 megs of memory, what does this tell you? The N-bit machine can
ACCESS a wider range of memory than an M-bit machine, provided that M <
N.
Another question is: Do you really need all those values in memory at
the same time? Can you store the values in a file and only haul in
small pieces that you are working on? {Works with matrices, and tables}.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Allen Crider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux file-size limit?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:54:54 -0700
John Thompson wrote:
>
> Carlos Collazo wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to backup a 5Gig ext2 partition onto another ext2 partition
> > on another hard drive. No matter which software I use, BRU, taper, tar,
> > TkZip, etc., I get the same outcome--when the growing archive file
> > reaches 2147482624 bytes it stops! The smarter backup software such as
> > BRU says to (insert the next volume). When I use tar in the following
> > manner:
> >
> > tar cvZX /root/tarexclude.lst -f /mnt/sdc1/rhonibmide.tar.Z .
> >
> > I get "write error onstdout file too long, broken pipe"
> >
> > Info / Observations:
> >
> > 1. I do not have quotas enabled.
> >
> > 2. I'm running as root.
> >
> > 3. It is not related to the compression utilities, since it also occurs
> > without compression enabled.
> >
> > 4. Running RedHat 5.2. I also own several other distributions if this
> > is the problem.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Is there a limit to the file size hardcoded in the kernel?
>
> AFAIK, this is an intrinsic limitation of the filesystem.
>
> >
> > 2. What do I have to recompile in order to solve this or get around it?
>
> Rather than backing up to another partition, you can backup
> to a device that does not use a filesystem; eg, a tape
> drive. Tar can handle multi-gigabyte archives on a tape
> drive without size limitation problems beyond the physical
> limitations of the media used.
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Use cpio.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Jenkinson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Please give me rain for my file-descriptor drought
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:00:19 GMT
Hi,
We run a rather busy Linux server with over 100 apache virtual
servers, MySQL, QMail etc. Naturally, the server is beginning
to complain about file-descriptor drought, particularly since
we need each virtual server to keep individual logs, which means
ever more open files. We've tried to look at the Apache and Linux
documentaiton, but it seems a bit vague as to how we can successfully
up (and up significantly) the number of file descriptors. We
increased the value in /proc/src/kernel/file-max and
/proc/src/kernel/inode-max but weren't sure what to do with the
values in /proc/src/kernel/file-nr and inode-nr. Whatever, neither
of these really appeared to work correctly.
With full logging switched on we had 7000 open files. Removing web
access logging took us back down to only 700 open files which has
solved the problem, but of course switching off access logging is not
a long term viable option. We have previously had to turn off error
logging because of the same problem. When we hit a file-descriptor
drought our CGI falls over, amongst other things. Not good :(
What are we missing?
We're running SuSE Linux, 2.0.34
Please respond if you feel you can help in any way. All suggestions
gratefully received.
Regards
Dave
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:13:26 -0700
Dann Corbit wrote:
>
> EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > What is the maximum array size, using GNU C compiler?
> >
> > It looks like g77 complains after about 12000000.
> Assuming doubles, that's about 100 megabytes. Do you have:
> 0. 100 megs of memory?
> 1. User rights to a block that large?
that's right! sorry, 120000000 (not 12million, 120million.)
thanks,
AG
--
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EKK Inc.
2065 West Maple C309 tel. 248-624-9957
Walled Lake MI 48390 fax. 248-624-7158
_____________________________________________
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:56:09 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: Clifford Kite writes:
: > Only for root or if the device file name comes from a privileged source.
: As it should. Users should not be configuring network interfaces. Pppd
: should not be passed any command line option other than 'call <provider>'
: by users. The less said about .ppprc the better.
Huh? The point was that it's not always opened by root which what was
you implied. As far as passing options as arguments to pppd goes I
don't see a problem since pppd can be configured to disallow the ones
that have the potential to cause harm if misused. And regarding .ppprc
my feeling is that it is futile to try to suppress information that is
available to anyone willing to read the pppd manual by simply not saying
anything about it. If you have a specific concern regarding .ppprc it
would be better to voice that concern so others can understand what you
see as posing a problem.
: > Yes, they do.
: Users do not have to be able to to write to the port. Pppd on Debian works
: just fine without it.
Only if Debian configures pppd for use in a special way. If the ones
using pppd are members of a group that includes the device file group then
they could open it (with rw group permissions). Or, perhaps, the pppd
privgroup option is used and they are members of that group. Users that
are not a member of the group will not be able to explicitly invoke pppd
without "other" read/write permission for the device file. Of course
if the only use for pppd is a single ISP connection then pppd can be run
with the demand option, in which case all the permissions of the device
file can be turned off - including those for root.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* 97.3% of all statistics are made up. */
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From: Jeff Mead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Software for slowing down music -- Linux!
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:53:03 +0100
Reply-To: Jeff Mead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7p9plk$qv3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ivannn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>Hi Matt
>I can't help u :(( Never heard for such program for Linux, but if you know
>something similar for Windoze, would you post or mail me info? Thanx
Cool Edit 96 from www.syntrillium.com will do that (and lots more
besides).
--
Jeff Mead
EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 19 Aug 1999 16:00:15 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) writes:
> >The Guile library is under the GPL, but with a special exception that
> >allows linking to proprietary code. The following is from the Guile
> >source code:
>
> [...]
>
> Wow, that's great news. Why the heck didn't they just use the LGPL?
Because it did not do what they wanted. I would guess that section 6
of the LGPL was not quite what they wanted. Unlike the LGPL, there
are no weird requirements that the linking application must conform
to, you simple can link anything with guile. The LGPL is quite a bit
different than this.
> I'll point out that the minute that Guile incorporates a patch without
> transfer of copyright (thus making Guile a derivative of GPLed code,
> because any such patch would be derivative of Guile which is GPLed),
> the Guile maintainers will no longer have the *right* to grant such an
> exception.
The Guile maintainers are fully aware of this, and not only are they
insisting on patches bearing this exception, but they also collect
copyright assignments, as all official GNU projects do. Jim Blandy,
the present head there, is a very capable developer and diplomat, and
it cognizant of the myriad issues involved with accepting patches.
> If they'd used the LGPL instead, this would not be an issue. Please,
> Guile-maintainers, switch to LGPL while you still can.
If they used the LGPL, their license would not do what they wanted it
to do, and thus would be broken. As it stands now, you can
effectively treat guile as if it was LGPLed if you are just linking
against it, in fact it is even more lenient than the LGPL, as you do
not need to conform to the requirements of Section 6. I'm not sure
why you would want to add even more complexity to the already quite
simple license, particular when you're claming that you want to mmake
it simpler and a non-issue.
--
Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Free Scheme/Lisp Software http://www.red-bean.com/~craig
I say woe unto those who are wise in their own eyes, and yet
imprudent in 'dem outside -Sizzla
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Stephenson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 99 23:43:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Mooo" writes:
> Well, to be fair, the local IBM rep has forwarded me info to the
> effect that support for Warp4 and Warp Server V4 finishes either Jan
> 2000 or Jan 2001 (I cant remember right now).
I bl**dy well hope it's later than Jan 2000. My Software Choice
subscription doesn't run out until March that year. (Or do you
suppose they'd give me a free upgrade to Warp 5 Server by way of
a consolation prize? Hmm, yes, of course, that'll be it... <g>)
--
Andrew Stephenson
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