Linux-Misc Digest #467, Volume #24 Sun, 14 May 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Gateway Solo 9300CL and Linux? ("Sinh")
Re: SSL Certificates with OpenSSL/mod_ssl... ("Fr�d�ric Malenfant")
Re: How to protect Linux against power interruptions?? (Robert Heller)
Re: Benchmarks and relative speeds (J Bland)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (J Bland)
Re: Boot Disk (Steve)
Re: Reinstallation too slow (Steve)
Re: dsl on linux (Steve)
Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Salvador Peralta)
Re: GNU tar compress on the fly? (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: Benchmarks and relative speeds (David Damerell)
Testing ("Syed Quazi")
Ftp port error ("David A. Hauan")
Re: vi - how to do case insensitive search? (fred smith)
Re: FreeBSD and Linux ("John S. Dyson")
Sound Blaster and Corel Linux (Madness)
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From: "Sinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Gateway Solo 9300CL and Linux?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 14:47:19 GMT
spend $20 and go purchased a licensed copy of OSS. it works just fine, or
if you're destined to be cheap and try to get it to work, read on how to
build a kernel from source and enable the maestro chipsets.
and i've used redhat and it works just fine. that utexas.edu site contains
the proper instructions if people would just understand them.
-Sinh
"jgadbaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jim wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone encountered any abnormal difficulties setting up Linux on the
> > above Gateway notebook model, particularly with the XF86Config setup?
> >
> > Jim
> > remove "attack" for email
>
> Jim -
>
> I have a 9300cx that I tried RedHat and Mandrake to no avail. The
> Xconfig crashed no matter what I tried. I then ordered the new SuSE 6.4
> and as we speak it is up and running, Xconfig worked right out of the
> box, video is perfect - finally a distro that works. Now, if it would
> just recognizr the sound card --
>
> Jim
>
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From: "Fr�d�ric Malenfant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: SSL Certificates with OpenSSL/mod_ssl...
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 10:58:11 -0400
> 2. If I am hosting multiple websites for different people, do I have to
> have a certificate for each one of those websites, or just one for the
> server that I am using...???
At our company, we are hosting a lot of .com, but the ssl certificate is
registered only for one company, ourcompany.com.
So, for example, if on our web server we have a site for www.ourclient.com,
when on this site we want to make a ssl connection, we redirect it to
www.ourcompany.com/ourclient so there we can use the SSL certificate we
have. We can't use it directly on www.ourclient.com, even if it is on the
same web server machine.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to protect Linux against power interruptions??
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 14:58:58 GMT
Allen Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 13 May 2000 21:18:26 GMT, wrote :
AU> I am working on building Linux-based Internet gateway/router/VPN boxes.
AU> They will be going into environments where the users will not know the
AU> proper shutdown proceedures, nor even why they should be followed. Is
AU> there a way to protect Linux against the effects of power interruptions
AU> (power failure, maid trips over plug, etc.) My goal is to make Linux run
AU> as much like a dedicated hardware device as possible.
AU>
AU> Is there a program that periodically syncs the disks? How about running
AU> without swap? Any other ideas (other than providing a UPS)?
AU>
First of all, use a SCSI disk system. I've almost never have any
problems with Linux boxes w/SCSI disks having trouble after a power
failure, but had heard tales of troubles with IDE disks getting bad fsck
problems after a power failure.
Linux already does a disk sync every so often (2 seconds?), so the issue
is to what extent the disks (or hardware cache) themselves are affected
by power loss. IDE disks *seem* to not handle power loss as well as
SCSI disks.
UPS's are (relatively) cheap. You only need one with enough battery
life for an orderly shutdown. *ANY* *dumb* UPS can be used. Even
really dumb ones with no signaling at all: all you need is an old
*external* modem -- plug the modem's power in the wall and the computer
into the UPS. Connect the modem's RS232 connection to an available
serial port. Tell powerd to watch Modem Ready -- when the modem loses
power (and the computer is thus on UPS battery power), start the
shutdown. This is in the UPS-HOWTO / powerd documentation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Benchmarks and relative speeds
Date: 14 May 2000 15:15:11 GMT
On Sun, 14 May 2000 10:16:13 GMT, Raj Rijhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8fl8k8$aq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jon Plews" writes:
>
>> IIRC SETI relies heavily on the FPU so I'd guess the K6-2 has a
>> weak FPU.
>
>This would certainly seem to be the case. (Now regretting having
>bought AMD - something I would never have thought I would say...)
Yes, the k6-2s don't have very good FP units on them but they do perform
very admirably at integer (probably as good as if not better than a P2).
The k6-3s made up for it a lot but they weren't really worth it with athlon
just around the corner, though I'm still kicking myself that I didn't get a
k6-3-400 instead of the k6-2-400 I've got in this here laptop.
PJF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: 14 May 2000 15:20:37 GMT
On Sun, 14 May 2000 12:36:18 GMT, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux people don't believe in WYSIWYG! They are a bunch of command line
Yes we do; when it
a) Increases productivity
b) without screwing up the output
LyX is a good example of this. IME HTML generators aren't, but maybe that's
got better now.
Life is always much easier if you can knock up code/HTML/whatever over a
bare telnet session (remote maintainence of a website is a boon for people
on the move and not knowing what computer you'll be on). You appreciate the
CLI when you're in a different city and your server starts playing up ;).
PJF
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Boot Disk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 2000 16:25:23 GMT
On Sun, 14 May 2000 08:42:42 -0400, Scott wrote:
>I have a problem. I've got two hard drives (one Windows, one Linux). The
>computer boots using LILO. I would like to get rid of LILO an boot to my
>windows disk, but still have the option of booting to my Linux disk using a
>floppy. Anyone know how to go about doing this?
>
>I have to do it because running both drives makes my Linux disk overheat and
>not operate. Then, because, I guess, it is the disk that's actually
>booting, I can't boot the windows disk no matter what (not even with a
>Windows Startup disk).
On my distro RH6.0 in /usr/doc/HOWTO there's a document on creating boot
disks, there's one on lilo too, and one on win+linux on the same machine,
have a look there's some interesting reading there and all the information
you'll need.
If you havn't got the HOWTOs go to http://www.linuxdoc.org
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
3:35pm up 17 days, 17:36, 3 users, load average: 1.07, 1.03, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Reinstallation too slow
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 2000 16:25:19 GMT
On Sun, 14 May 2000 05:16:47 GMT, SilentNight wrote:
>
>1. After Corel reboot normally, I wanted to check what if I turn off power.
> Then the second cold boot hangs.
You shouldn't just turn off the power, usually there's something else that
you should do first so that the machine doesn't get damaged, when you've
watched enough of the film you don't just unplug the video player without
stopping the tape from running, and you don't just turn a washing machine
off while it's in the middle of it's program.
To shutdown use something like
# /sbin/shutdown -h now ## this shuts down safely and then you can
## turn off when it's finished doing what
## it does.
# /sbin/shutdown -r now ## this will shutdown and restart the
## machine safely.
>
>2. The reinstallation is smooth, after many hours frustrated. But on the
>reboot the PC just freezes.
What error messages are you getting or at what point does it freeze, tell
us what you're typing when prompted and what the promt is and what happens
after that, what are you seeing on the screen at the time of the freeze?
>
>What makes me puzzled is that, several books about installation have no way
>out after repartition. So, if I use one distribution of Linux to partition,
>I must
>go on installing it. Even there is no option for format.
>
>Where can I find those information ?
You're not meant to stop installing in the middle of the instalation process,
make the decision before you start weather you want to do the install or not
this will save you a lot of time. If you're not happy about the the partitions
you've created you can edit them within the install procedure, but what I think
would be even better is if you mede these types of decisions before you start
to install (as suggested in all documentation I've seen), I've seen other people
who post to this NG say that before an install they write all this information
down on paper and refer to their notes while going through the install process,
I'd say that this is good practice, you can then keep a paper record of the
configuration of your machine which will help if anything goes seriously wrong
and you need to rebuild, especially useful if you have more than one machine and
each is configured differently.
>
>Thank you for your time.
>
You're welcome, you'll find it's a very steep learning curve, so don't expect
to understand everything over night, I've been using linux for about six
months now and feel that I'm still learning how to get my machine to work
exactly the way I want it to, but it's well worth the time and effort.
PS: you don't need to reboot every five minutes, or every time you make a change
to the system, see my signature, I've upgraded perl, installed gnapster,
installed a webserver, fixed an underlying network setup problem all without
rebooting and I have access to all of these new/modified facilities.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
3:35pm up 17 days, 17:36, 3 users, load average: 1.07, 1.03, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: dsl on linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 2000 16:25:24 GMT
On Sun, 14 May 2000 00:29:25 -0700, Simon Huang wrote:
>hi all, i am installing linux on my x386 computer for the first time. i have
>a dsl/ethernet, but couldn't figure out how to make it work. i've downloaded
>and installed the files from my dsl provider onto linux. i have installed
>ppp daemon. the instruction tells me to use "chmod +x filename" to make a
>file call "start-pppoe" as well as other files executables. however, i
>couldn't execute them even after i try to use "chmod".
What message are you getting? BTW there's an ADSL HOWTO that may give
you some useful information.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
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or http://start.at/zero-pps
3:35pm up 17 days, 17:36, 3 users, load average: 1.07, 1.03, 1.00
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:41:20 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > WRT allowing your government to "protect you" from exposure to
> > alternative points of view, Gods save us from such noblesse oblige. I
> > don't think it's healthy.
>
> Bullshit. Stop contorting the meaning of what I've said. The
> government is not protecting *me* from anything, but protecting the
> constitution from offenders.
I distorted nothing. This is what you said:
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> Our governments'[0] attitude towards Scientology is another reason why
> it's good to live in Germany.
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Your government practises censorship towards alternative groups.
Scientology isn't the only example. The types of in-group / out-group
models practised in germany and elsewhere are simply not healthy. The
antisemitic movement in germany and europe generally over the first half
of this century is just one example of where that type of politics can
lead. There are certain rights of the individual that must be protected
from the prejudices of others.
> And yes, it is very American to think that letting a criminal and
> anticonstitutional organisation like Scientology act freely is just
> "exposing the people to alternative points of view".
...and it's very german to villify, criminalize, and exclude outgroups
by virtue of what they believe, or how they live their lives. 50 years
ago, to hear germany's politicians speak of it, the Jews were behind the
political agenda, now it's the scientologists and (who was it you said?)
Spelling? Is he another jew, matthias?
How many generations are the german people going to keep repeating that
same mistake. I thought that we were suppposed to learn from history,
not repeat it. Talk about spinning the same circle on the karmic
pinwheel.
--
Salvador Peralta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.la-online.com
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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNU tar compress on the fly?
Date: 14 May 2000 23:33:22 +0800
>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Colquhoun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> tar zcf - <file list>
Paul> NOTE: using the 'v' option will probably corrupt the archive
Paul> as it will also put a list of file names to standard out.
No, it won't. I've been using "tar zcvf - . | blahblah" for years.
The output of 'v' goes to stderr instead.
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From: David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Benchmarks and relative speeds
Date: 14 May 2000 16:58:06 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jon Plews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Raj Rijhwani wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>and K6-2/500. The strange thing is that with two identical Linux
>>installations this machine appears to be a little less than 20% faster
>>than my P160 machine (overclocked at 200). The test here is setiathome
>IIRC SETI relies heavily on the FPU so I'd guess the K6-2 has a
>weak FPU.
Also, setiathome has been pretty heavily optimised for Intel CPUs; the
K6/2's FPU isn't so hot, but it's by no means that slow.
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David/Kirsty Damerell. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It moves between us, for one moment, like opium in your heart, with remedies
from the ancient gods, to heal the morals of our shadows. Devil, come to me,
open up the door, lead me ciahra to the centre of it all...(FotN:Submission)
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From: "Syed Quazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Testing
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 16:08:36 GMT
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From: "David A. Hauan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ftp port error
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 16:22:09 GMT
I am running RedHat 6.0 (2.2.19) with IP-Masq , ipchains and dilad.
Have three computers (Win2000, FreeBSD, Linux) Linux is the MASQ box.
connected to an interal private network. All works well with the
exception of...
>From the FreeBsd and Win2000 machines I get an error 500 invalid port
when I try to ftp. Any ideas on where/how to fix this problem?
Thanks
dave
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vi - how to do case insensitive search?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:51:48 GMT
Brandon Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How do you do a case insensitive search with vi?
: Thanks,
: Brandon
try:
:set ignorecase
which you can abbreviate as:
:se ic
to turn it back off, use:
:se noic
or
:set noignorecase
Fred
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"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
============================== Matthew 7:21 (niv) =============================
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From: "John S. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 11:54:26 -0500
Paul David Fardy wrote:
> Christopher Browne wrote:
> >>>> <http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-project-9911/msg00042.html>
> >>>> has a discussion thread entitled "Stop Debian/FreeBSD," so evidently
> >>>> some people aren't thrilled with the idea...
>
> "John S. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> That is kind of interesting, because it would be good to have a
> >>> Linux-style OS with a freely redistributable (in the sense of
> >>> developer free), non-redistribution encumbered kernel.
>
> "John S. Dyson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > That position is imponderable to me, unless it is a result of a
> > social-engineering or paranoid mentality... By allowing
> > innovation in the kernel (as needed), it allows the same
> > development freedom in the kernel as in userland.
>
> > There are various forms of 'inertia' that will keep people from
> > forking excessively (for example, XFree86, FreeBSD), while if
> > needed, the proprietary forking can happen. More often than not,
> > there is little reason for being fearful of minor, proprietary
> > forks -- the only reason that I can ponder is paranoia :-).
>
> Perhaps "more often than not", but that's not "always".
>
The "more often than not" is sufficient, "always" isn't necessary,
and is not needed, except for a 'control' mentality. The key here
is that since the free software world is about free software, then
proprietary forks become disinteresting (or much less interesting)
to the free software world. The proprietary forks, given their high
cost*, must have extreme value, or they won't succeed.
*high cost includes that of maintenance.
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John | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | it makes one look stupid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and it irritates the pig.
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From: Madness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Blaster and Corel Linux
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:36:17 +0200
Hi!
I've just installed a new version of Corel Linux but I can't setup my
Sound Blaster AWE64. I knew that Corel Linux does'nt support it but
there's a way to make it work..
Thank you very much
Alessio
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