Linux-Misc Digest #469, Volume #20 Wed, 2 Jun 99 23:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does this OS exist? (Martijn van Buul)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
Re: Program that does HTML to plain text conversion? (Alan)
Re: ISDN in US (Paul John)
Need help editing PATH Variable ("David Perkins")
Re: HELP! RedHat5.2 Sony CDU33a Wont Install. (Satya Purohit)
Re: Is This Illegal? (DJ Delorie)
Re: /dev/sda4 not a valid block device? (Carl Fink)
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Sound (Michel Catudal)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Erik Olson)
Re: core dump ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Chris Frost)
scanner SANE 1.0.1 pnm device (Vinh Le)
Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Michel Catudal)
Re: pppd problems (Ian Briggs)
Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h) (Martin Dieringer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:17:24 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Mohd H Misnan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: Every distributions has their own way of distributing the configuration files
: and the binaries and there was a talk on common standard for this but I've no
: idea if they're ever implemented. RH uses SysV like configuration style while
: Slackware uses BSDish.
SuSE also uses SysV config.
It also does it's best to conform to the FSH standard.
(Red had doesn't, or so I believe. It doesn't even have an /opt directory to
start with).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn van Buul)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.minix,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Does this OS exist?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:28:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn van Buul)
It occurred to me that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in comp.os.minix:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahum.
Don't I know you from a certain flamewar between comp.sys.cbm and
comp.sys.sinclair?
> : The closest that fits the above are DOS (but not 32-bit/protected mode)
> : and Minix (but not singletasking or single user). Any others I have
> : missed?
>
> Why would you want one? Apart from the single user/single tasking thing,
> linux fits the bill nicely.
I never really understood why an OS should be single user, single tasking
AND running in protected mode in the same moment.
If there's only one process, what's the use of protecting things?
> But... As you didn't specify a CPU architecture...
> Another one that comes close is QDOS (The QL operating system based on the
> 68000 CPU). It's single user, but again, it's multitasking...
Sinclair again ;)
Okay! The Commodore Amiga... [SNIP]
Assuming that the bloke wants to run something on an Intel-based thing,
you might want to try Minix or Linux. If you fiddle around with Linux'
runlevels, you can simulate a single-user system. Granted, it's not
single tasking, but if you really insist on single tasking, you should
stick to plain old DOS.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:21:18 PST
In article <Zji53.864$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm hopeful that postgres will be THE sql db for free unix.
>but it isn't there yet. I'll forgo features for stability.
I agree it's not there yet, but 6.5 is, as I mentioned, a
great start. My impression from my usuage is that one can
build a very stable database-backed web site with it if
you take care. This was impossible with 6.4.2.
Some truly awful memory leaks that were
the source of a lot of "6.4.2 runs for days/weeks/months
then dies a horrible death in my web environment with a
constant db connection" type complaints have been fixed.
It no longer uses (ugh) table-level locking. And a bunch
of other stuff I won't go into detail on.
As I mention, I'm writing as someone who got rid of 6.4.2
within hours after starting to play with it, due to it
being featurelight and crashful. I only tried 6.5 on a
whim, and have been very pleased.
>the transaction thing is a biggie if your app already needs it. but
>for new apps, there are ways around depending on transactions and
>triggers.
>its called 'programming to the least common denominator' ;-)
Well, the real world uses transactional dbs for critical systems
for reasons which seem pretty obvious to me...
Not being transaction-based does help make MySQL very fast.
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- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:20:51 -0400
From: Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Program that does HTML to plain text conversion?
Thank you for your help , John. I never thought of using lynx in that way.
This will make printing my documents a lot easier.
Thanks,
Alan
John Girash wrote:
> Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I was wondering if there is a program that comes with most Linux
> : distributions (I currently have Slackware 3.6 , Mandrake 5.3 and Debian
> : 2.0 installed.) that can convert HTML files to simple text files.
> : Ideally it would be able to concatenate multiple HTML files into one
> : plain text file
>
> you could write a shell script using "foreach [of your html documents]",
> "lynx -dump -nolist" and "cat >".
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From: Paul John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISDN in US
Date: 02 Jun 1999 20:59:51 -0400
"John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Well I just have it set up for home use, but it may be of some help to you.
Initially I used my old USR 128bit internal using the 4ISDN that came
with SuSE. When I went through the configuration I kept getting a
device busy error which turned out to be an I/O conflict. Once this
was resolved, the configuration went smoothly. The documentation for
ISDN4Linux was a little confusing because it was geared to having a
static IP. But I eventually got it working by using an example on the
SuSE support database that gave a simple dialup connection config example.
Anyway... after all that, I wasn't able to get it to connect on both channels. So
it was a good excuse for me to buy a new one that supported analogue
calls aswell :)
So I bought a Courier I modem external 128K modem. I removed the
ISDN4Linux software, plugged the modem in to com1, booted off an old
DOS 6.0 disk to use the supplied 3com software utility that allows you
to enter your SPID's & numbers. Then I configured Linux as for a
normal dialup connection using wvdial (also included with SuSE)
choosing just one of the ISDN numbers. Now, whenever it connects, it
uses one channel initially, but if the bandwidth is used up, the I
modem automatically connects the second channel for me. It really
couldn't have been much easier. The only downside is, unless you have
a very new or fast serial port, you will be limited to 115200kbs. But
I can live with that for now until I upgrade my PC.
Routing & masquerading was then set up simply by entering the 3 ipchain
commands that are given in the SuSE masquerading how-to and setting
the device to ppp0. Then just set the routng & masquerading parameters
in rc.config to 'yes' and run SuSEconfig.
If you really do need a terminal adaptor as opposed to an external
modem, you'll find that 4ISDN supports most major brand names.
One final thing. Make sure you get one with an integrated NT-1. This
means you can connect the modem or adaptor directly into the ISDN U
interface on the wall. Without that, you'll need a seperate NT-1
device in addition to the modem.
Hope this is of at least some use to you.
Regards
> What kind of terminal adaptor did you use?
> What software on Linux was needed?
> I need to set up an ISDN connection between a main office and two
> satellite offices. Commonly routers are set up to connect to the ISDN
> line and then a serial or IP connection is made to the computer. But I
> think I can do it without the routers; I just need a good terminal
> adaptor that works with linux.
>
> By the way, I just installed SuSe 6.1 on a machine and it's great, but I
> can't get StarOffice to print to my HP 697C, though I can do it with
> SOffice on RH 6.0.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> John Sandell
>
>
> Paul John wrote:
> >
> > "John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > I have 128K ISDN set up & working on SuSE 6.1. What do you want to know?
> >
> > > I have seen postings here re: ISDN in Europe but need info from anyone
> > > who has set up ISDN with linux in the U.S. Can anyone help?
> > >
> > > John Sandell
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From: "David Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help editing PATH Variable
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:51:10 -0600
I just installed RedHat 6.0, and have installed the KDE packet. However, I
have to edit the path, apparently, and I don't know how to do that. When I
try running the "startkde" command, I get all of the KDE files with (for
example) kbgndwm: cannot connect to X server
kcontrol: cannot connect to X server
Anyone know the answer?
thanks, Dave Perkins
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From: Satya Purohit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! RedHat5.2 Sony CDU33a Wont Install.
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:21:13 -0400
Thanks for the information,
However, I think I will continue to plug away at it for a while.
My CDU33a has provided 5 years of trouble free service, and indeed, also works like
a charm with NT & slackware linux.
The options I tried were precisely as you suggest. I think I will take a look at
the slackware install time driver source, which specifically works with the unit.
Regards,
Satya
fred smith wrote:
> Satya Purohit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Autoprobe didn't work. So I looked up the CDROM Settings for WinNT4.0
>
> The cdu31a driver does not autoprobe. The documentation and the source
> code for the driver clearly state that. You must supply parameters
> on the lilo "command line" or elsewhere to make it work.
>
> : on same machine.
> : NT Config Says : Addr = 0x340-0x343, IRQ5.
>
> : Tried these setting in "Specify options" for CD ROM detection. CDRom
> : access light changes colors 2 times and then whole thing hangs.
>
> Exactly how did you specify those options? To the best of my memory
> (and it has been quite a while) you need to do it something like:
>
> cdu31a_port=....
>
> where the "...." is the values you wish to specify.
>
> Another possibility is, if your cdu33A is anything like the one cdu33a
> and the two cdu31a drives I used to have, it doesn't work worth a darn
> anyway. I found them to be so unreliable I finally took 'em out and
> put 'em in the trash can a few months ago cause it wasn't worth wasting
> shelf space on them.
>
> Fred
> --
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> "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his
> glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior
> be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before
> all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."
> ----------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 (niv) -----------------------------
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:10:45 -0400
From: DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
brian moore wrote:
> But it's not a gray market at all. It's quite legal (and the GPL
> encourages it) to redistribute GPL'd code. It's more than just your
> right: the goals of the GPL are to make it almost a responsibility to
> share software with everyone.
The GPL neither encourages nor discourages the distribution of
software. It only specifies terms under which such distribution
is allowed. The goal of the GPL is to ensure you have the right
to use and change your software, not to make GPL'd software popular.
Have you read the GPL lately?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: /dev/sda4 not a valid block device?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 07:00:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Jun 1999 15:26:01 GMT Phillip George Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I do have a disk in the drive; I believe it is preformatted but I have no
>way of knowing. mkfs doesn't work with /dev/sda4 either.
Try running
fdisk /dev/sda
Ask fdisk to list the partitions on the drive.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:34:24 GMT
In his obvious haste, Mike Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: I have no idea where the phrase originated.
I think it's English originally. We certainly use it a lot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:33:31 GMT
In his obvious haste, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: "Having a chip on your shoulder" means "looking for a fight".
Nahhh. It just means the person has a bad attitude.
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|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire|
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux Sound
Date: 2 Jun 1999 21:14:02 -0500
Jimmy Navarro wrote:
>
> Thanks it worked loading the stream but I dunno if just not hearing the
> sound nor still not working right. I tried downloading G2 RealPlayer
> but kept getting stuck. Is there way to get that using ncftp?
>
better yet :
Open an X text editor
Right click the mouse over the link and make a copy
link location and make a paste into the newly opened editor.
Add at the beginning of the line
wget -t0 -c URL:
and save as getReal
then in a vdm type
chmod u+x getReal
./getReal
You have to have wget installed of course, you do don't you?
If not you need your hands slapped, this is a program to
usefull for someone to forget to install it.
Good luck.
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From: Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.help,linux.news.groups,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: 02 Jun 1999 18:26:08 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stephen Coursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02 Jun 1999 17:44:57 GMT, Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> OK, if this is the case then how is calling a GPL'd Linux kernel function
>>>> any different than calling a GPL'd library function? Being called is what
>>>> they both were designed for.
>>
>>> When was the last time you linked against the Linux kernel?
>>
>>Well what do you call this?
>>
>>$ldd a.out
>>libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40007000)
>>/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00000000)
>>
> I'd call it linking agains libc and the dynamic loader. What do you call it?
Now don't you think libc calls the kernel?
In order to do anything, output to the user, the kernel has to
become involved. Somewhere, someplace the kernel gets called. It has to.
And because of the virus like nature of the GPL we are infected.
Now maybe you don't call this linking since it is already there, but
effectively that is what it is.
Now why didn't Linus use the LGPL instead of the GPL for the kernel?
The GPL doesn't protect the kernel anymore than the LGPL would of.
Or am I missing something?
erik olson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: core dump
Date: 2 Jun 1999 16:55:31 GMT
In his obvious haste, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled thusly:
: Getting familure with Linux (RH 5.2), tried to
: look at the memory allocation in memory. I found
: "/dev/mem" and tried to read the file with 'joe',
: It was unreadable. Exited 'joe' and got a report
: of 'dump' or core dump'. I found "core" file in
: my root directory. Illedgable with any editor I
: use. "core" file is greater than 5 megs.
: Question:
: 1. What did I do wrong?
/dev files are special files that can not be read by text editors.
They refer directly to device drivers that run various things like
/dev/cdrom or /dev/modem.
: 2. Is this file a 'core dump' of /dev/mem?
More likely a core dump of Joe.
: 3. Is it necessary to do any repairs to
: /dev/mem?
I doubt it.
: 4. How should I do any repairs, outside of
: reloading RH.
: 5. Just what is 'core dump'? I remember the
: statement from back in the 60s. But then
: we had 'magnetic cores'.
That's why it's called that, yes, but it's actually a dump of all memory
used by the application, along with all other relevant information such as
registers and stack. This allows debuggers such as gdb to trace the cause of
a crash.
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| |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
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| |can't move, with no hope of rescue. |
| Andrew Halliwell |Consider how lucky you are that life has been |
| Finalist in:- |good to you so far... |
| Computer Science | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++|
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 17:12:08 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: Keith Phillips wrote:
:>
:> Now, if SuSE would only add printer support to their shipped kernel... :-)
: I don't understand. I have SuSE 6.1, and had 6.0 and 5.3, all supported
: printing just fine. I imagine there would be quite an uproar if SuSE
: shipped something that didn't support printing.
Very true.
I'd suggest you run YaST...
System Admin -> Printers
(Or something like that)
It supports just about every printer you care to mention.
(even my star LC24 dot matrix is covered (thanks to its compatibility with
IBM proprinter)
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| Computer Science | - Father Jack in "Father Ted" |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: Chris Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:13:43 -0500
In comp.sys.sun.hardware W. Jeffrey Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A somewhat related question, I was just looking for Netscape for my SS2
> running RedHat Linux 5.2, but I can only find "x86" versions. Will that
> run on my machine, or should I download a different version?
Drop by
ftpx.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.51/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_sparc_glibc2/
Where x is the number of your favorite netscape server. You'll find complete and
standalone versions of netscape for sparc on linux (which should also run under
openbsd I believe should you prefer openbsd over linux).
It's definately tolderable on my SS2 runing linux (would also be running openbsd if
I had another hd... :( with 64megs of ram, my only gripe is a lack of a wide
assortment of colors (I have a great dislike for 8bit color, and thus stay out of X
much of the time)
enjoy!
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- Chris
-- Visit Me at http://www.frostnet.advicom.net --
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinh Le)
Subject: scanner SANE 1.0.1 pnm device
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:53:03 GMT
Hi!
I need some help with installing SANE, more specifically
getting the virtual pnm scanner devices to work.
I downloaded sane-1.0.1.tar.gz from http://www.mostang.com/sane/
I did the configure, make, and make install. Everything seems
to be there, except when I try "scanimage --list-devices"
I get nothing listed. "scanimage --list_devices" reports
"no SANE devices found". "xscanimage" reports "not devices
available." I'm expecting at least two virtual pnm devices
to be listed like:
device `pnm:0' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device
device `pnm:1' is a Noname PNM file reader virtual device
This is according to the Tutorial.
Any hints?
Thanks!
Vinh
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation
Date: 2 Jun 1999 20:30:05 -0500
Glitch wrote:
>
> Michel wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Chris Aiken wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I downloaded 4.6 from Netscape in the form of a gzipped tarball file.
> > > >> I installed in my /opt directory w/o any problems at all. I edited the
> > > >> /bin/netscape script to point to my new version being careful not to
> > > >> destroy the old version. It works great! No problems so far. It
> > > >> seems to be a bit faster that 4.51 but who knows. I did pick up
> > > >> new bookmarks and address books from my .netscape directory.
> > > >>
> > > > You must not have gone on java sites yet!
> > >
> > > > My netscape goes in a warp hole here, I have RedHat 6.0
> > >
> > > I've been to all the java sites I used to visit with netscape 4.51 and
> > > there were no probs with 4.6
> > >
> > > No considerable difference though. I just like to keep to the latest
> > > version although sometimes that's not necessarily a good idea.
> > >
> > > What problems are you having with java sites?
> > >
> >
> > As soon as it is to start loading java stuff netscape vanishes and leaves only
> > a lock file. It basically kills netscape. If I go back to Netscape 4.5 it loads
> > the java stuff but eventually crashes netscape.
> >
> > I have RedHat 6.0 with 40M of RAM, two swap partitions of 64M and lotsa hard disk
>space.
> > 300-400M, I have a Cyrix 686 230Mhz.
>
> on my system, AMD K6-200 , 96 megs RAM 8 meg swap, I have that same problem. I use
>Lycos
> chat (the java version) and sometimes when it freezes (happens with everyone who
>uses the
> damn thing ) and I try to log back into their server Netscape just goes bye bye.
>Totally
> disappears. Sometimes it leaves a lock file but i think ther has been times when it
>hasn't.
> I hate when it happens. Sometimes I am using NS mail or news and Netscape just
>decides it
> doenst want to be running anymore and shuts down by itself and I have to sometimes
>erase the
> lock file before I can start it again...it gets annoying to say the least.
>
> Brandon
I found out something interesting about Netscape 4.51 and 4.6
I renamed the .netscape directory to something else and deleted
all the netscape directory except my ump plugin.
I reinstalled both netscapes, 1 at a time going thru the
same erase procedure between each. It would not run as
I would get a bus error. With the old directory of netscape
4.5 it would load ok but would crash on certain java web
sites. Blue Mountain is a good case.
The Netscape versions that I used were both the US version
and both libc5 based since there is no glibc2 version
available yet. At least there weren't any last week. The
4.51 version was on the Netscape CD and the 4.6 version I
downloaded from the net.
Reinstalling Netscape after erasing most files .netscape
except my bookmarks and address book brought some sanity
back to my System since netscape doesn't crash as often.
Trying to connect to wood's website (Grand Rapid TV station)
freezes Netscape. All my Netscape windows become white as
there is no more refreshing of the screen. Some games sites
that my son go to do the same thing.
In a couple weeks I will install the latest and greatest
Slackware, to those who have tried it : does this problem
occurs or is it just a RedHat problem?
No I'm not getting rid of RedHat which I still like, I just
bought a 8.4G hard disk and will reinstall slackware and OS/2 on
it. I hope OS/2 won't have any problem with the 8.4G hard disk.
Hard disks are getting cheap, paid $135 at A2Z for that Western
Digital drive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: pppd problems
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 01:57:06 GMT
Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands wrote:
:My provider uses PAP authentication.
<snip>
:"ogin:" "<username>"
:"ssword:" "<password>"
Erm, these lines are for scripted authentication, not PAP.
If you haven't already found it, Bill Unruh's "How to hook up PPP" is a
good step-by-step guide to setting up PPP manually. It's at
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html.
Ian
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From: Martin Dieringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Linux Open Source? (stdio.h)
Date: 03 Jun 1999 04:01:06 +0200
Chet Skapczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Re: "Chip on one's shoulder". In American street-lore there is the concept
> of a bully or a "tough guy" who would walk around with a chip of wood on his
> shoulder, daring anyone to come up and knock that chip off his shoulder.
> This would be interpreted as a direct challenge to the bully and a fight
> would immediately follow.
>
> Hence, the meaning of "having a chip on one's shoulder" to describe someone
> who is always belligerent and looking for a fight.
Hey! This thread turned out to be really fun AND informative!
m.
(the not-so-tough guy with the chip on his shoulder who is now
giving up)
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