Linux-Misc Digest #469, Volume #27 Wed, 28 Mar 01 16:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: On-demand dialing (Lew Pitcher)
Linux WEB Server Appliances? (Dan Star)
Re: Help: Display not showing entire diesktop under some resolutions ("Stefan
Viljoen")
Re: On-demand dialing ("Jeffrey L. Susanj")
Re: Detecting Users using ssh to connect (Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*( (John Culleton)
sort source
Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it (G Tselentis)
Re: sort source ("Chris Coyle")
Re: Gnome installation question... (Elf Sternberg)
Re: sort source (Paul Kimoto)
phone client/server idea (Neil Zanella)
Re: Where do I direct possible bug reports in a linux kernel to? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Detecting Users using ssh to connect (Michael Heiming)
Re: Where do I direct possible bug reports in a linux kernel to? (Michael Heiming)
Re: sort source (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: phone client/server idea ("Davide Bianchi")
Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0 ("Keith Marjerison")
Re: gnoRPM Fix?? ("Chris Coyle")
Re: Help: Display not showing entire diesktop under some resolutions (Yvan Loranger)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: On-demand dialing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:15:47 GMT
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:00:22 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Lew Pitcher Writes:
[snip]
>> However, the recommended approach is the demand-dial options within pppd,
>> which (IIRC) invoke diald under the covers.
>
>You don't RC. Pppd's demand-dial option does not invoke or depend on diald
>in any way.
Finger check. I meant to say that (IIRC) pppd invokes chat under the
covers.
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:40:15 -0600
From: Dan Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux WEB Server Appliances?
Hi,
What are the Linux Web Server Appliances out there? I could only find the
Cobalt Rack and RoadsterLX. Are there others? Opinions welcome.
Dan
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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Display not showing entire diesktop under some resolutions
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:16:58 +0200
Reply-To: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ygUv6.6832$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I am running Red Hat Linux 6.2 with Kernel 2.2.16 on a 450 Mhz PIII with
128
> MB, with XFREE86 3.3.6, using a 3dfx Voodoo3 AGP display adapter (my XF86
> Config file is attached).
>
> I am able to cycle through the four display modes using
> <ctrl><alt><numeric+> and <numeric ->.
>
> However, only with the 1600x1200 resolution is the entire desktop visible
at
> one time. Under any other video mode (640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768)
> only a fraction of the desktop is viewable at any given time. Under these
> resolutions, moving the mouse around the upper or side edge of the screen
> changes the section of the desktop that is currently viewed. This happens
> with all the window managers I've tried, including Gnome/Enlightenment and
> KDE.
>
> Is there any way to set my display (like in Windows) such that at all
> resolutions the entire desktop is visible at one time?
>
I had this problem too - there was a config option in GNOME where you can
specify the size of the virtual desktop - I can't remember the exact GNOME
menu option. I changed this to a desktop size of one screen and the problem
went away.
Stefan Viljoen
F/EMS Dispatcher
Potchefstroom F/EMS
South Africa
http://home.intekom.com/rylan/
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From: "Jeffrey L. Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: On-demand dialing
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:39:31 GMT
"Frank Hahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There may be other ways around your problem. The diald package at
> one time included a script that could be used to control diald. I
> use to export this so that it displayed on the Windows machine. You
> could use this to stop and start diald instead of waiting for it
> to time out.
>
> Another option was a program called dialmon. It was a Windows client
> that could also control diald. Take a look at issue 33 of the Linux
> Gazette. The address is http://www.linuxgazette.com.
>
> The address for dialmon is: http://www.quaking.demon.co.uk/dialmon.html
>
> --
> Frank Hahn
>
> There is no such thing as fortune. Try again.
Another option is 'connect' which consists of a connectd daemon that does
the dialing using chat and various clients to control it. There is a
windows client, a linux command line client and a X windows client.
Jeff S.
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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Detecting Users using ssh to connect
Date: 28 Mar 2001 19:03:56 GMT
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, type
> w
If they don't show up in who or finger, why would they show up in w?
>> How can I get my users who
>> log in using ssh to show up in who list? When they log in I can't tell
>> they're on by using who or finger. I don't want them to be able to hide
>> :)
I had the same problem a while back and was never really able to
figure it out - but I did notice that the sshd binary on my machine did not
checksum the same as the binary on another host (which did not have the
'invisible users' problem). I copied over the sshd binary, restarted sshd,
and all was well.
JDW
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From: John Culleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*(
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:05:43 GMT
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Gregg Black wrote:
>I posted earlier about trying to print to my Epson Stylus Color ESC P2.
>Well, I'm still having this trouble, but I think the problem runs deeper
>than just being this specific printer.
>
>A
>Thanks once again for all your help.
What flavor of Linux?
Have you tried Apsfilter (www.apsfilter.org)?
My Epson Stylus Color 880 printer will accept a plain text file: E. G.
cat foo.txt >/dev/lp0
Will your printer respond to this?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sort source
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:20:53 -0800
Does anybody know where I can the source for sort?
thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: G Tselentis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:39:33 +0200
Glitch wrote:
> G Tselentis wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> G Tselentis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> configure: error: Cannot find GLIB: Is glib-config in path?
> >>>>
> >>>> I've got a full Mandrake 7.2 installation (latest one, with latest
> >>>> kernel and x windows). I tried to download the GLIB mentioned ... I
> >>>> did, installed it and everything and still gave me that error.
> >>>> HOWEVER ... when I'm my normal username and i type glib-config ... it
> >>>> runs it! But when im root, it doesnt
> >>>
> >>> It's rather obvious that glib-config isn't in root's path (it's
> >>> different from regular users'). Find where it's located and change
> >>> root's path accordingly (edit /root/.bash_profile).
> >>
> >> A better advice would be to avoid doing anything more than is strictly
> >> necessary as root. For example, compiling stuff can be safely done by
> >> a normal user! Only "make install" needs to be run as root (and it is
> >> even possible to make this step unnecessary if you give the right
> >> permissions on /usr/local).
> >>
> >
> >
> > first of all, thanx for the replies :) secondly, I had the idea of doing
> > what u said, and so I did ... but now I get a different error message,
> > on the same subject! here it is ...
> >
> > checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config
> > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.5...
> > *** 'glib-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GLIB (1.2.8)
> > *** was found! If glib-config was correct, then it is best
> > *** to remove the old version of GLIB. You may also be able to fix the
> > error *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by
> > editing *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
> > *** required on your system.
> > *** If glib-config was wrong, set the environment variable GLIB_CONFIG
> > *** to point to the correct copy of glib-config, and remove the file
> > config.cache
> > *** before re-running configure
>
> I just installed glib 1.2.8 and gtk 1.2.8 and fixed the above errors
> (when ./configuring Pan) with very little trouble.
>
> the glib-config that ./configure is finding doesn't know how to find its
> associated libraries that you installed.
>
> if you run /sbin/ldconfig the libs that were just installed should be
> loaded into memory (i believe that's how it works). I think that is
> what i did to fix the above error. It seemed to work for both glib and
> gtk.
>
>
>
thanx for the reply.
i did that though, and no result ... same error. could u maybe (if u
remember that far back) the exact steps of how u installed glib? and did u
install gtk first by any chance? maybe that has to be installed before glib
or something ... i dunno. im gonna keep on trying, but pls send me ure xact
steps if u dont mind ... thanx :)
g.t.
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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sort source
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:45:51 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:SYqw6.171721$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anybody know where I can the source for sort?
>
>
> thanks,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I think its part of the textutils package.
Look for it at www.gnu.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: Gnome installation question...
Date: 28 Mar 2001 19:35:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I think that the Gnome people must purposely make it a PITA to compile
>Gnome from source.
Oh, here's a sad one. There's a cyclical dependencies among
*objects* in the Gnome code. I did finally get Gnome to compile and RC1
works as advertised; I have no complaints. But while compiling I had to
disable some (admittedly optional) features because GAL can use GnomeDB,
but GnomeDB is dependent upon Glade, which in turn is dependent upon
GAL.
Arrgh. Who *designed* this monster?
>Have fun and....good luck....you'll need it :P
Well, here's the order of compilation that worked for me:
glib
gtk+
audiofile
esound
ORBit
gdk_pixbuf
imlib
libxml
gnome-libs
gnome-print
oaf
GConf
gnome-vfs
control-center
bonobo
libgda
libghttp
gal
gnome-db
libunicode
libglade
gnome-core
libsigc++
gtkmm
gnomemm
That's about it. And it's pretty responsive, too, much faster
than 1.2.
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, rational romantic mystical cynical idealist
http://www.halcyon.com/elf/
Fast food restaurants are like gay bathhouses in San Francisco,
places where people go to engage in high-risk behaviors.
- Greg Critser
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: sort source
Date: 28 Mar 2001 15:05:47 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <Warw6.5098$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Coyle wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:SYqw6.171721$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Does anybody know where I can the source for sort?
> I think its part of the textutils package.
Running "sort --version" will confirm this.
> Look for it at www.gnu.org
--
Paul Kimoto
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: phone client/server idea
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:42:39 -0700
Hello,
I would like to use an application framework that lets you connect to
another computer and use that computer's modem as a phone to call people.
Here is the scenario:
There are two computers: a server computer S and a client computer C.
- Both S and C are on the internet via an ethernet card that gives them
a cable or DSL or T1 type access to the internet. Hence S and C can
communicate.
- In addition to an ethernet card S has a modem connected to a phone line.
Such a modem is capable of dialling phone numbers and let people talk.
- S runs a server program that listens for incoming connections from
client programs. This server program called a phone server authenticates
users from other computers and upon successful authentication lets them
use the phone, possibly with some restrictions on the numbers the user
can dial and these would be configurable on a per user basis.
- The client program on C uses the client's built in microphone to forward
the voice messages to the server which then sends them over the phone.
At the same time the client listens for voice messages sent to it by the
other end.
- If the modem is in use by another user then the client should be able to
accept a busy signal and notify the user.
- The client program can be run on any computer on the internet including
servers themselves and can be used to connect to any accessible server.
I think the advantages of such a system are quite obvious
(security risks apart).
Where can I find such a system for Linux or even
a multiplatform solution with Linux server?
Thanks,
Neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Where do I direct possible bug reports in a linux kernel to?
Date: 28 Mar 2001 15:11:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Heiming wrote:
> No, but did you read the famous Documentation/Changes file, that comes
> with every kernel tarball and updated your system?
>
> Before you post (fa.linux.kernel) a possible bug report, always try the latest
> stable version
See REPORTING-BUGS for some suggestions, and MAINTAINERS for places to
send bug reports.
--
Paul Kimoto
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hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:11:37 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Detecting Users using ssh to connect
Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner wrote:
>
> Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, type
> > w
>
> If they don't show up in who or finger, why would they show up in w?
That's a valid point, however I never used who, only w and never had any problems,
no matter if it was the sshd that came with the distro or self compiled from
openssh.org.
>
> >> How can I get my users who
> >> log in using ssh to show up in who list? When they log in I can't tell
> >> they're on by using who or finger. I don't want them to be able to hide
> >> :)
>
> I had the same problem a while back and was never really able to
> figure it out - but I did notice that the sshd binary on my machine did not
> checksum the same as the binary on another host (which did not have the
> 'invisible users' problem). I copied over the sshd binary, restarted sshd,
> and all was well.
That's curious, was this the same sshd version? What kind of distro do you use?
Michael Heiming
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:18:14 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where do I direct possible bug reports in a linux kernel to?
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Heiming wrote:
> > No, but did you read the famous Documentation/Changes file, that comes
> > with every kernel tarball and updated your system?
> >
> > Before you post (fa.linux.kernel) a possible bug report, always try the latest
> > stable version
>
> See REPORTING-BUGS for some suggestions, and MAINTAINERS for places to
> send bug reports.
Thx...Checked, another file to check would be Documentation/BUG-HUNTING. Never had
any need
for this...:-)
Michael Heiming
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sort source
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:18:56 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Does anybody know where I can the source for sort?
>
I see you already have answers, but let me elaborate a little.
If you run a RedHat system, you can do a whereis command and it will
tell you where command is. For example,
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ whereis sort
sort: /bin/sort /usr/man/man1/sort.1
Once you know where it is, you can do:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ rpm -qf /bin/sort
textutils-2.0a-2
This tells you what (Red Hat) package it is in and the release rpm
thinks you are running.
This is useful for a command where --version does not tell you the
package it is a part of, or where there is no --version argument
available.
You can fool it by compiling something from source and installing it
without telling rpm about it (I do not even know a good way to tell
rpm anything, but I suspect there is a way).
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 3:15pm up 5:28, 3 users, load average: 2.33, 2.23, 2.10
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From: "Davide Bianchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: phone client/server idea
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:23:50 -0800
"Neil Zanella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
> I would like to use an application framework that lets you connect to
> another computer and use that computer's modem as a phone to call people.
<ZAP>
So you talk to the PC, the data are digitalized, sent over the network
to the other computer, then the data must be turned back to analog to be
sent over the phone line again?
Beside the fact that the modem on the other machine should be
able to generate voice data (normal modem can't do that), and you should
have a direct connection to the internet trought a fast connection, and
probabily this thing will suck out all the possible bandwidth,
what are the so-called "advantages" of this system ?
Davide
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Keith Marjerison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ALSA and Crystal Semiconductor CODECS: CS4237B and Suse 7.0
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 20:26:02 GMT
On 28 Mar 2001 03:00:35 GMT, Dances With Crows wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:44:48 -0000, Christopher W. Aiken staggered into
>the Black Sun and said:
>>On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:27 GMT, Keith Marjerison
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>1st, I'm a Linux newbe, so go eazy. How do I go about getting Suse to
>>>recognize my TidalWave128 ISA sound card. It is PnP and the 'isadump'
>>>utility :)sees the card but when I try and use 'YaST2' to install
>>>'Generic' support for :)the 'CS42*' and the program stops saying the
>>>'kernel' does not support it. :)What am I doing wrong? What is a good
>>>reference for Linux ? i.e. Linux :)Unleashed? Thanks for any help in
>>>advance.
>>
>>I got my CS4232 up and running by adding the following lines
>>to my /etc/rc.d/boot.local file. The run the boot.local file
>>or reboot.
>>
>>echo "Setup CS4232 Sound"
>>modprobe soundcore
>>modprobe sound
>>modprobe ad1848
>>modprobe uart401
>>modprobe cs4232 io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=3 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=9
>SuSE 7.x uses ALSA, not the kernel OSS drivers, by default. Chris gave
>the OSS solution, which should work provided you can find the right
>values for all the parameters. Every cs42xx I've seen has used IRQ 5,
>for instance, and "0" for dma2, but try various things... the worst you
>can do is lock up the system. Keith, have you tried "alsaconf"?
>
>As for a good Linux book, _Running Linux_ by Matt Walsh (published by
>O'Reilly and Associates) is a pretty good low-to-mid-level book. If you
>got the "Professional" SuSE distro, you should have a pretty
>comprehensive set of manuals sitting around. (The manuals are much less
>comprehensive in the "Personal" distro. Sigh.) The following sites can
>be very useful for Linux users:
>
>http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/
>http://linuxnewbies.org/
>file:/usr/share/doc/packages/
>
>--
>Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
>http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
>-----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
I tried both of the above methods without any positive results. When
I modify the 'Boot.local' file there is an error message when booting. What
is even stranger is that with out any changes to the 'boot.local' file, when
my machine boots and I watch as the different devices are initialized, I can
see my Crystalizer TidalWave 128 card in the list and all of the 'Ports' and
'IRQs' and 'DMAs' are listed and initialized correctly, but I am still unable
to get sound support. I have also tried the 'alsaconf' utility with an error
that no supported sound card was found. I have no idea what is wrong. The
YaST2 program tells me to try installing with the 'OSS/Free' package, what
and where is this package?
As far as I know this Crystalizer TidalWave 128 card uses the same
drivers for the 'Newcomm 3D' sound card in both Windoze and OS/2.
I must say I am completely baffled.
Thanks again for any help.
/>Keith Marjerison
/>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Chris Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnoRPM Fix??
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:56:08 -0500
"Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:99ldct$2cl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone know if there is any fix pending for gnoRPM to make it work
> with rpm version 4??
>
> The problem seems to be known:
>
> error in loading shared libraries:/usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined symbol
> fdio
>
> but I've heard of no fix yet.
>
> If there is no fix coming, how would I back out the rpm version 4, and go
> back to 3.0.5??
>
> Jim
> remove not for email
>
Jim,
I had exactly this problem yesterday.
Its due to the fact that gnorpm is statically linked.
When you (and I) installed rpm 4 that link went bad.
The fix for me was fairly easy - install the gnorpm source package
(I found gnorpm-0.95.1-5.6x.src.rpm).
Apply the included patches and then compile it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Help: Display not showing entire diesktop under some resolutions
Date: 28 Mar 2001 20:55:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
"Stefan Viljoen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> David J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ygUv6.6832$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I am running Red Hat Linux 6.2 with Kernel 2.2.16 on a 450 Mhz PIII with
> 128
>> MB, with XFREE86 3.3.6, using a 3dfx Voodoo3 AGP display adapter (my XF86
>> Config file is attached).
>>
>> I am able to cycle through the four display modes using
>> <ctrl><alt><numeric+> and <numeric ->.
>>
>> However, only with the 1600x1200 resolution is the entire desktop visible
> at
>> one time. Under any other video mode (640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768)
>> only a fraction of the desktop is viewable at any given time. Under these
>> resolutions, moving the mouse around the upper or side edge of the screen
>> changes the section of the desktop that is currently viewed. This happens
>> with all the window managers I've tried, including Gnome/Enlightenment and
>> KDE.
>>
>> Is there any way to set my display (like in Windows) such that at all
>> resolutions the entire desktop is visible at one time?
In file XF86Config, Section "Screen", Subsection "Display", add line
Virtual 1024 768
and that will be the new desktop - but you'll lose larger resolutions.
--
Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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