Linux-Misc Digest #469, Volume #24               Sun, 14 May 00 18:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: web browsers ("Alex F. Evonosky")
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (David Efflandt)
  Re: Distribution "for" CD-urning w/ IDE? (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: tv (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (JEDIDIAH)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator ("Patrick")
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Mark Wilden)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Mark Wilden)
  Fujitsu MPA3042ATU HDD (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: pppd died unexpectedly!!! (mazzo)
  Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Bob Hauck)
  Re: Thrashing drive (Stewart Honsberger)
  Tweaking NT: clear-text passwords (Ken Yasuda)
  connection problem (Anthony Pleace)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator ("One of the mob")
  Re: SSL Certificates with OpenSSL/mod_ssl... (Tux)
  Re: Accessing Stupid Windows (Dances With Crows)
  Re: APACHE + PHP3 PROBLEMS.... (Tux)
  Re: FreeBSD and Linux (Neil Blakey-Milner)
  The core file keeps hanging around... (Tux)
  Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (I R A Darth Aggie)
  Re: The core file keeps hanging around... (Adrian)
  Re: Module loading ("Florian E.J. Fruth")

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From: "Alex F. Evonosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: web browsers
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:10:22 GMT

Hmm, Never had a problem w/ netscape. but try Opera. 

/Alex




In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a proxy server at home for my LAN and I have Winproxy on it.  It
> has a HTML interface to make the modem dial too.  When I use Mozilla,
> the button doesn't work.  When I use the StarOffice browser or the
> Netscape browser it does.
> 
> The problem is this:  Netscape 4.61 crashed and wont work.  and I am not
> a big fan of the StarOffice browser.  I downloaded Netscape 4.7 and it
> looks just like Mozilla!!  so it doesn't work.
> 
> Does anyone know of some other web browsers for Linux other than
> Netscape, Mozilla, and StarOffice.
> 
> btw- KDE's built in browser doesn't work w/ Winproxy either.
> 
> thanks to anyone who can help
> 
> 


-- 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Alex F. Evonosky
Linux version: Red Hat 6.2
http://www.alexevon.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: 14 May 2000 19:16:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 14 May 2000 07:15:48 -0400, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Are there any WYSIWYG web page generators for Linux/LinuxPPC? It would
>need to be able to generate frames, input forms and secure pages.

I use Netscape Composer to generate quick pages and 'pico' (or vi) to
modify or add anything it cannot do.  I don't use frames because it messes
up bookmarking and printing (I might use tables instead).  I use the Perl
CGI module to generate and process forms and other dynamic content.  And I
use webserver directives for secure pages (secure pages have to do with
html editing).

Although, I have used Adobe PageMill in Windows (which messes up some
tags) and FrontPage 2K for the lone NT site I maintain (site was
donated).  But I set FP2K to be Netscape 3 and MSIE 3 compatible so pages
will work with any browser.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Distribution "for" CD-urning w/ IDE?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:42:20 GMT

On Sun, 14 May 2000 10:31:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi guys!
>
>I thought I'd throw out my old installation, RedHat 6.0, and do a
>completely new installation with some new distribution, I don't know
>which.
>
>The thing I would like some help with is the following:
>
>I have 2 IDE-HD (6 and 13GB) and one Sony CRX-100E CDWriter(IDE).
>Is there any distribution that allows me to just start burn audio CD's
>from the start or must I go through this "generic SCSI"-thing with
>whichever I'd choose?
>
>If I have to, could you recommend a distribution that makes this easy
>at the installation procedure?

        As of yet, none of the distros has automated this process
        to my knowledge. There's certainly no reason that they 
        couldn't if they really wanted to. 

        Sound modules were similarly "neglected" for a considerable
        amount of time before distros came out with shiny happy config
        utilities.

[deletia]
-- 

    In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of'    |||
    a document?      --Les Mikesell                                    / | \
    
                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: tv
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:45:02 GMT

On Sun, 14 May 2000 12:56:52 +0200, mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have Flyvideo 98 FM and now finally working but without sound. 
>Please help me.

        The overlay cards that are typically supported under Linux
        merely supports the audio through the use of LineOut->LineIN
        connection. So, there is likely no issue with your vidcap card.

        Make sure everything is connected and whatever channel the audio
        is supposed to be coming in is sufficiently adjusted.

-- 

    In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of'    |||
    a document?      --Les Mikesell                                    / | \
    
                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:46:46 GMT

On Sun, 14 May 2000 12:36:18 GMT, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux people don't believe in WYSIWYG!  They are a bunch of command line
>fools.  I however like how Frontpage does that automatic navigation buttons
>but I really don't like Frontpage.  Is there anything else that does they
>navigation stuff?

        The Web is not WYSIWYG.

        So trying to generate web pages that way is somewhat absurd.

[deletia]
>Patrick
>
>"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>: Are there any WYSIWYG web page generators for Linux/LinuxPPC? It would
>: need to be able to generate frames, input forms and secure pages.
>:
>: Any and all he;p appreciated.
>: --
>: Rick
>: To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
>
>


-- 

    In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of'    |||
    a document?      --Les Mikesell                                    / | \
    
                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:50:40 GMT

On Sun, 14 May 2000 19:48:22 +0100, Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is an oft-replayed argument, but I never tire of it. :)
>
>If one really does understand that WYSIWYG refers to what _you_ see, and
>not to what anyone _else_ necessarily sees, there's nothing wrong with
>'WYSIWYG' HTML editors, in my view.
>
>Displaying information visually can be just as legitimate as displaying
>it via text. For many people, it's easier to fix a table, e.g., when you
>can see a visual representation of it, rather than mentally parsing
>tags.

        The only catch with this is that one 'visual view' of the 
        data is not definitive. You will likely have to test it 
        against multiple clients (assuming you are bothering with
        reasonable testing) and quite possibly have to tweak things
        manually.

        Much like C or C++, a code generator doesn't necessarily
        eliminate the need for you to understand the actual 
        language being used.

        [deletia]

-- 

    In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of'    |||
    a document?      --Les Mikesell                                    / | \
    
                                      Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.

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Reply-To: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:07:25 GMT

I'm just looking for something that generates automatic navigation buttons
for a web site with out putting in all that Microsoft crap code.  It can be
a windows application too.

Patrick

"JEDIDIAH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: On Sun, 14 May 2000 12:36:18 GMT, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >Linux people don't believe in WYSIWYG!  They are a bunch of command line
: >fools.  I however like how Frontpage does that automatic navigation
buttons
: >but I really don't like Frontpage.  Is there anything else that does they
: >navigation stuff?
:
: The Web is not WYSIWYG.
:
: So trying to generate web pages that way is somewhat absurd.
:
: [deletia]
: >Patrick
: >
: >"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: >: Are there any WYSIWYG web page generators for Linux/LinuxPPC? It would
: >: need to be able to generate frames, input forms and secure pages.
: >:
: >: Any and all he;p appreciated.
: >: --
: >: Rick
: >: To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.
: >
: >
:
:
: --
:
:     In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of'
|||
:     a document?      --Les Mikesell                                    / |
\
:
:               Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.



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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:12:10 +0100

JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>         The only catch with this is that one 'visual view' of the
>         data is not definitive. You will likely have to test it
>         against multiple clients (assuming you are bothering with
>         reasonable testing) and quite possibly have to tweak things
>         manually.

Despite my best efforts, I didn't make myself clear. I was talking about
using the visual representation to understand the HTML, not to preview
how it would look to anyone via a Web browser.

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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:14:49 +0100

JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
> The Web is not WYSIWYG.

That's the unfortunate term used to describe an editor that provides a
visual representation. It's quite literally true, since what you see is
indeed what you--but only you--get. But Web purists mentally translate
it into WYSIW Everyone G, and so they miss the benefits that the visual
representation of information can provide to some people.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Fujitsu MPA3042ATU HDD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:23:17 GMT

I've got a Fujitsu MPA3042ATU HDD that Linux claims has no cache. I can't
find the specs for the drive, but I can't imagine a HDD, especially one
as new as a 4G, that wouldn't have a cache.

This is what I've got in my dmesg listing;

hdb: FUJITSU MPA3043ATU, 4172MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=531/255/63, UDMA

I've noticed that this drive, being UDMA, is actually slower than my old(er)
2G DMA drive, which has a 128kB cache, according to dmesg.

Does anybody else have this drive that could tell me whether or not this
thing has a cache? If so, is there a trick to enabling it? Is the drive
defective? It was just sent to me by Fujitsu as a warranty replacement for
another drive (like model) that died, hence it came in its original (sealed)
packaging.

Any help is appreciated.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mazzo)
Subject: Re: pppd died unexpectedly!!!
Date: 14 May 2000 22:24:31 +0200

I think that the problem comes from the permissions on some files........I use to get 
that error but when i modified the permissions on the /etc/ppp/options everything went 
ok.....


--
Posted from laguna.tiscalinet.it [195.130.224.86] 
via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:26:34 GMT

On Sun, 14 May 2000 21:29:00 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Don't forget Germany's got laws against concentration of press market
>share in the hands of media moguls. I don't know whether the US have.

We used to, but not anymore as far as I can tell.

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.bobh.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Thrashing drive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:32:11 GMT

On Sat, 13 May 2000 22:44:13 -0500, John Scudder wrote:
>At least once an evening while I am quiety reading mail, my hard drive
>starts thrashing around for no apparent reason for several minutes or
>more.  Then it stops on its own and is quiet for the rest of the
>evening.  Why is it doing this?  Could it be related to my swap
>file?
>
>I have SuSE 6.3,  64 M ram, 128 M swap file, and a 10 G SCSI hard drive.

I'm not sure about other distros, but SuSE at the very least, since version
5.2 for sure, and possibly older, has run "updatedb" (among other things) late
in the evenings. Unfortunately, it doesn't run late enough, and it's a PITA
trying to load Communicator while your two HDDs are churning like there's no
tomorrow.

Some of the running tasks while it's churning;

Log file rotation/deletion
locale database update (runs 'find' across all mounted volumes and indexes
the entries. This causes 90% of the thrashing)
mandb updates (also causes a lot of thrashing)

There are a few others, but these are the important ones. While it's running,
you'll notice a process running find with a very long command-line. I've
often kill -9'ed the task and no harm was done; I just didn't have a complete
locate database for that day. Since my files don't move around all that often,
it's never bothered me any.

Check /etc/cron.daily for a listing of what's being run.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.2.14

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Yasuda)
Subject: Tweaking NT: clear-text passwords
Date: 14 May 2000 20:38:28 GMT



In one of the samba help files that came with my distribution (WinNT.txt), 
they suggest the following in order to have NT support clear-text passwords:

===============Begin quote==========================
Run regedt32.exe and locate the hive key entry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\CurrentControlSet\Services\Rdr\Parameters\
 
Add the following value:
        EnablePlainTextPassword:REG_DWORD=1         
===============End quote===========================

My question is if you type in the  ":REG_DWORD=1" also, or if you click on the
menu option below. The menu option below doesn't include "DWORD=1" explicitly, so
I'm just wanting to be careful before I commit either way.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Ken

(Remove "nospam" if replying by email.)

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From: Anthony Pleace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: connection problem
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:48:18 +0100

I am a newbie running RH6.2 on a a stand alone machine and would like
some clarification about connecting to the internet.
As root I can use linuxconf to create a ppp connection that uses pap and
I can allow other users to connect.
As a user there is a connection tool rp3 that will also make a
connection and this tool allows the modem volume to be adjusted.
Can I adjust the volume of the ppp0 connection?
Is there any problem that I am not using pap with the users connection?
I have read that sendmail is not very "secure" but I do not know what
secure means. Can anyone clarify this?
-- 
Anthony Pleace

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From: "One of the mob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:01:19 GMT

Well, well, well,
I can't believe some of these replies... Linux needs to be a lot more
friendly to use before it will grow out of the childish mentality that it is
somehow a purest ideology driven OS, for Geeks.

Star Office 5.1 uses it's editor as a WSIWYG web page editor. It also has
(albeit, a little crude) a graphic editor for images too. I have created
several websites using a variety of applications - including HTML scripting
and my experience is that no single package will build a good site.

I presently use Microsoft FrontPage 98 to build the basic site and scan it
with a code corrector to make it HTML 3 compliant... I also use Front page
to publish to a Linux server without FP extensions. So... all this talk
about purist detail is a lot of gibberish... Why should not a good designer
use whichever tools they get the best result from?

http://www.linuxshop.com.au was built with FrontPage 98 and it works just
fine. You can even get you copy of Star office 5.1 there for around $6 US.
Some of the site's form handlers are done with Star, some of the other
functionality is done with Netscape composer... You might like to try out
Ayrena too. Open you eyes and see the world!
Brian


"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Are there any WYSIWYG web page generators for Linux/LinuxPPC? It would
> need to be able to generate frames, input forms and secure pages.
>
> Any and all he;p appreciated.
> --
> Rick
> To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.



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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: SSL Certificates with OpenSSL/mod_ssl...
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:35:10 -0230

"Fr�d�ric Malenfant" wrote:

> > 2. If I am hosting multiple websites for different people, do I have to
> > have a certificate for each one of those websites, or just one for the
> > server that I am using...???
>
> At our company, we are hosting a lot of .com, but the ssl certificate is
> registered only for one company, ourcompany.com.
>
> So, for example, if on our web server we have a site for www.ourclient.com,
> when on this site we want to make a ssl connection, we redirect it to
> www.ourcompany.com/ourclient so there we can use the SSL certificate we
> have.  We can't use it directly on www.ourclient.com, even if it is on the
> same web server machine.

Would it be possible to set up a certificate that you can have for different
clients on the one server, or would you have to have different servers for
this to be possible...????

Thanks,
Trevor...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Accessing Stupid Windows
Date: 14 May 2000 17:23:01 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 14 May 2000 18:38:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<<8fmrqd$uqg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have been trying to mount my Windows partition. Actually I have been
>successfull with one exception. I can't get the windows partition
>accessible to anyone else but teh root. I used linuxconf on Red Hat 6.1.
>I did everything as explained in the book, it is user mountable and the
>permissions are 755. Still it only gives them to root. What's more, when
>I try to use chmod on the windows partition it eliminates al
>permissions, I am still able to access it as root though. Any insights
>on that would be helpfull, I'd hate to have to go as root every time I
>want to get something from the stupid Windows, unfortunately, there is
>still a lot there that I need, music files, etc...

*sigh* RTFAQ!  RTFAQ!  FAT partitions have no concept of permissions or
security, so they are always mounted with all files chmodded to 755, and
all files chowned to the user and group who mounted them.  Of course, you
can tell mount to do otherwise...

In /etc/fstab:

/dev/hda1     /win    vfat    noauto,user    0   0
# will allow you to mount /win as a normal user
/dev/hda1     /win    vfat    umask=000      0   0
# will automount /win on boot and allow all users full r/w access.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt.  --MegaHAL

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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp,nf.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: APACHE + PHP3 PROBLEMS....
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:43:48 -0230

resignation wrote:

> its becuase you dont "execute" php scripts, as they can be anywhere in the
> documentroot except for the cgi-bin, which is for cgi/perl/etc type scripts
> only
>

 After I did what you recommended, I tried to run/parse the php3 script through
apache again and it automatically
started to download the "hi.php3" file  (instead of parsing it)....   I know
the file works because I have used it on my
ISP's server many times....   Thanks for the great information thus far, you're
a life/time saver...*s*   Much
appreciation...

Trevor....

>
> [Sun May 14 15:00:28 2000] [error] (8)Exec format error: exec of
> /www/cgi-bin/test.php3 failed
> [Sun May 14 15:00:28 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.2] Premature end of
> script headers: /www/cgi-bin/test.php3
>
> the above scripts works fine anywhere in the documentroot.
>
> -glen
>
> "Tux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi guys...
> >
> > Whenever I try to execute a PHP3 script while apache is running I get
> > script execution errors....   Apache and PHP were both installed without
> > errors, but for some reason I get the following error messages in the
> > ServerRoot/logs/Error_Log file...
> >
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> > [notice] Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) configured -- resuming normal operations
> > [error] (8)Exec format error: exec of /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/hi.php3
> failed
> > [error] Premature end of script headers: /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/hi.php3
> >


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From: Neil Blakey-Milner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 14 May 2000 21:22:18 GMT

In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Neil Blakey-Milner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>       >snip<
> : dpkg is a package manager.  Ports is not a package manager.
> : pkg_add/delete/info is our (FreeBSD's) equivalent.

>       Funny, I've always used ports to manage software installs.  Indeed,
>       pkg_* tools are currently needed to handle matters after the
>       install, however I would thus say that ports is at least, part of
>       FreeBSD's package management system.  I'd even go further and say
>       it's the best part.

Ports are used to build packages, much like srpms or whatever source
form .debs are called.  "Package", in the context of package manager
refer to binary packages.  I agree ports rule.  They're definitely the
best way to install software.  However, ports can't deinstall (without
calling pkg_delete), show installed package information, and so forth,
because it's merely a package generator (and installer), and not a
"package manager".  Maybe I'm being too specific in the definition,
but that's the argument that seems popular.

> : Replacing pkg_* with dpkg would increase the current functionality.

>       What features are pkg_* missing that dpkg offers?

Upgrades, basically.  A proper non-fixed dependency tree, and proper
handling of them.

Neil
-- 
Neil Blakey-Milner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: The core file keeps hanging around...
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 18:50:14 -0230

Hi everyone...

Could someone please tell me what the "core" file is, and where it comes
from....???   It always hangs it in the root or apache directory...
Does it have anything to do with the phrase "Dumping core now", and if
not, what does "Dumping the core" mean...???

Thanks...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Darth Aggie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: 14 May 2000 21:23:34 GMT
Reply-To: no-courtesy-copies-please

On Sun, 14 May 2000 21:01:19 GMT,
One of the mob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<zuET4.3207$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

+ I can't believe some of these replies... Linux needs to be a lot more
+ friendly to use before it will grow out of the childish mentality that it is
+ somehow a purest ideology driven OS, for Geeks.

Well, it is. An OS written by Geeks, for Geeks.

+ Star Office 5.1 uses it's editor as a WSIWYG web page editor.

This runs under LinuxPPC? that's news.

+ I presently use Microsoft FrontPage 98 to build the basic site and scan it
+ with a code corrector to make it HTML 3 compliant...

You shouldn't *need* a "corrector". That should be a clue that the tool
of choice isn't much of a tool.

+ about purist detail is a lot of gibberish... Why should not a good designer
+ use whichever tools they get the best result from?

The results are seen on the client's screen, not your own.

James
-- 
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>

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From: Adrian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The core file keeps hanging around...
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 15:09:08 -0700

Tux wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone...
> 
> Could someone please tell me what the "core" file is, and where it comes
> from....???   It always hangs it in the root or apache directory...
> Does it have anything to do with the phrase "Dumping core now", and if
> not, what does "Dumping the core" mean...???
> 
> Thanks...

Core dumping happens when a program seg faults and dies. The idea is
that linux dumps the memory image of the program so the user can debug
and fix the program later. For most users though, thats not something
they want or can do. The "core"s in /root/ are things that root was
running (they get dumped in the working directory of the programs
environment). The ones in the apache directory probably indicate some
wrong with the server or it's configuration.

Adrian
-- 
- I just tried this on my old Packard Bell 486/66 w/4MB (Hey ...
- shut-up! I was young, ignorant, and didn't know anything about
- hardware or quality manufacturers.).

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From: "Florian E.J. Fruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Module loading
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 00:04:13 +0200

by the way: did u compile the modules ?
i mean after selecting a kernel i enter this line (all in one):

make dep clean bzlilo modules modules_install

                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ did u do this :-?



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