Linux-Misc Digest #501, Volume #20 Sat, 5 Jun 99 04:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windowmaker 0.60 and dockable apps ("Kerry J. Cox")
off-group - sorry - MSie5 stops MSoffice installing (Mark Worsdall)
Re: What distribution? ("Justin Settle")
Re: Test your knowledge of Linux at new site! (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Chris J/#6)
rawrite question ("KingJester")
Re: KDE is giving me huge fucking headaches... (Le physicien nocturne)
Two Questions From experienced Linux User ("Brian D Sutterfield")
can't understand this netscape behavior
redhat5.2+win98 How? ("K Hui")
Re: NT the best web platform? (Michael C. Vergallen)
Re: rawrite question ("KingJester")
Checking free space on file systems (Jonathan Alpers)
Re: Linux + BeOS + Windows (Harry Dekkers)
Re: Checking free space on file systems (Ben Short)
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windowmaker 0.60 and dockable apps
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 05:50:54 +0000
No the resolution is at 16 bit. It's a pretty powerful machine, 300MHz
Pentium II with 64 megs RAM and a 4 meg video card. Like I said, everything
was working great until I installed the latest WindowMaker 0.60 and then the
dockable apps went klabooey. Something else I noticed, I had installed licq
and it's image was over all the dockable apps. Now I can't restart them.
The titlebar of the xterm in which I try to start them flashes, but the app
itself doesn't show up. If I do a ps aux though the app is running.
Wierd.
KJ
Bill K. wrote:
> "Kerry J. Cox" wrote:
> >
> > Since upgrading to RedHat 6.0 and now to Window Maker 0.60 I have had
> > trouble running any of my dockable apps, i.e. wminet, wmmon, wmifs, and
> > wmtime. I think it's either the DISPLAY variable (I've seen other
> > comments from people about this) or else Window Maker itself, more
> > likely. I went back to WM 0.53.0 but to no avail so I've resigned
> > myself to 0.60.
> > Has anyone else has problems? Please email me directly.
> > KJ
>
> How many colours is your X server set at? If it's 8-bpp or less, that
> might just be the problem. The same thing had me wondering and confused
> for a while.
>
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From: Mark Worsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: off-group - sorry - MSie5 stops MSoffice installing
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:12:09 +0100
Hi,
I had a problem with a server, it had win95a, office97 sr1 & IE401.
I installed IE5 but decided to upgrade to win95b because of registry
problems.
I would not upgrade, I was told to wipe the registry and win.com then
install win95b, I did that, It started fine.
Ran office97, would not run, so I tried to reinstall office97, DOH it
would not install.
Then I discovered IE5 would not work (start-up), I tried re-installing
IE5, nope, so tried to install ie4 (NOPE), ie3 (NOPE).
Phone MS tech support, told them the problem, was immediately escalated.
That day they had 2 other customers with the same problem, MS just
wanted to send me a new office97 & win95b CD's, I said I must get it
working to day and said I think this is all to do with IE5 since none of
your explorers will work.
She went away and spoke to the ie5 team, who spoke to the win95 team..
Was told to tell me to delete about x amount of files in the
windows\system directory from the command prompt and the re-install
win95b, the try to install office97.
It worked, so what does this mean...
If you install ie5 and then reinstall win95 with a new registry YOU
cannot install office97 or install ANY MS browser without deleting some
files from the system directory.
So what? well in the words of MS Tech support, Oh dear.. Next week is
going to be fun, Office2000 is launched next week and by default it
installs IE5!!!
How long before the restore patch is released? :-)
But thankyou MS Tech support for working with me on this.
M.
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From: "Justin Settle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What distribution?
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:38:42 -0400
Well . . . If you only have 100 meg and you don't need X I would say to just
get a GPL CD. They are a buck a piece so you could get a bunch. With a
server I would say Debian, or Slackware - I have no experience with Slack
however. If you have a fast enough internet connnection, Debian is designed
that you can download some small files from the net, and setup a base
system, then get the rest through CVS. The advantage here is that you don't
need a CD-Rom. Debian, SuSE, and Redhat have tools to setup partitions in
the beginning. I would say though that don't by a full out-of-the-box
distr. now. By mid to late summer, the next versions of the distros will be
out so you can pick and choose what you like.
Baldur Gislason wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Help!
> I have a ccomputer I wnat to put linux on, this is the hardware:
> Some motherboard with a soldered-in 486sx33 processor oveclocked to 50mhz
(I
> did heatsink it, don't worry), ISA bus
> 8megs of ram (8x1meg 30pin simms)
> Some ISA Hyundai interface controller (IDE, FDC, serial, parallel)
> Trident 8900c3.0 ISA video card with 512k video ram
> 102meg hd (terribly small)
> Some floppy drive
> Not maths coprocessor (it's an SX, remember)
> I have a RealTek8019 lan card (NE2000 compatiple) that I will be
installing.
> I will be adding a CD-ROM drive probably.
>
> I need to know what distribution would be best on such a low hd space, I
> don't need X. This machine will be used as a server on my LAN, it will be
a
> router (or proxy) and www server. I will be upgrading it this summer to a
> p100 with 128megs of ram and 4,3gig hd so this will be a temporary
> installation. The whole small hard drive will be for linux because I don't
> need dos, I also need some good partitioning program (to make a Linux
native
> partition and a swap partition, I only have fips now and that prog only
> splits a dos partition and makes ext2 (linux native) but doesn't delete
the
> dos partition so I get stuck with a useless 7megs dos partition.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Test your knowledge of Linux at new site!
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:03:57 GMT
On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:05:29 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Michael Littman wrote:
>
>Your test is a bit bogus.
>
>I started the programmer analyst test, but got interrupted by a few
>phone calls.
>Anyway...
>
>The pearl question is a bit ambiguous. The diver can get x pearls in an
>hour. Can the diver get 1/2 x pearls in 1/2 hour? That is how a good
>developer would think, but, your test does not account for that. You
>need to add, it takes n minutes to perform a pearl dive.
>
>In essence, I have little faith that the majority of the questions
>asked, have anything to do with software development aptitude. Some were
>pretty good, but most were too general. Abstract questions are all well
>and good, but, sometimes (particularly dyslexic) people function poorly
>in abstracts but well in more realistic situations.
>
>Personally, I do not like abstract tests in general because they end up
>testing how well an individual conforms to a narrow view of what is
>important.
>
>I didn't finish the test, as I said I was interrupted and after a few
>phone calls it failed to hold my interest. If, however, you asked
>important questions like:
>
>(1) Using the language of your choice, write a non recursive Bezier
>curve algorithm. You have 1 hour.
I'll have to remember the *recursive* Bezier curve algorithm to
do this right, but that's easy enough with a handy-dandy stack
of structures. (I don't remember it offhand.)
To be sure, it's not as clean-looking -- but then, I've seen
at least one machine do very weird things with respect to
subroutine calls; in particular, the IBM 7090 stuffs the previous PC
in an index register (it has a choice of three), which has to be
saved somewhere; the HP 21xx series stuffs the previous PC at the
*actual* jump point, then starts executing code at the word following
(it was a word-based machine).
Old IBM FORTRAN was not recursive at all (in VAX assembler terminology,
it would use CALLG, which required a pointer to an existing
preconstructed parameter list, rather than CALLS, which merely required
the number of parameters on the stack; the actual machine, however,
was an IBM).
I'll bet that was fun traversing trees and graphs at times... :-)
>
>(2) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>an array of coordinates defining a 2 dimensional shape of an arbitrary
>number of sides and calculates the area. You have 1 day.
A *day*? Try more like 2 minutes on an oriented shape.
Think signed trapezoids projected down to the X axis... :-)
(Kudos to someone at work who told me of this very interesting
and elegant hack some years back. It helps a *lot*, and has
the nice side effect of computing the orientation of
the polygon as well.)
>
>(3) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>a two dimensional array of coordinates defining a 3 dimensional object
>of an arbitrary number of sides and calculates the volume. You have 3
>days.
Hmm...come to think of it, this one could be done in a similar vein.
All one has to do is to sum the signed volume of columns with
a tilted slice-face -- and, if my understanding of solid geometry
is correct, one can simply take the average height of the N points
defining the face and multiply it by the (absolute) area of the projected
face on the XY zero-plane, then multiply *that* by +1 if the outward face
normal points up (+Z), or -1 if it points down. [*]
I don't see why it shouldn't work.
I give this one 10 minutes, but I'll have to experiment... :-)
(2 hours if I have to develop a point-edge-face correspondence
framework.)
Side issue: Take a polyhedron of density D (0<D<1) and float it
in a noncompressible liquid of density 1 within another polyhedron,
usually a parallelpiped. An interesting computation might be how
deep it would float in the liquid and how high the liquid would rise
(easy if the vessel holding the liquid has vertical walls, but
don't assume this!) Assume the floating polyhedron is fixed in orientation.
You have 1 week, 3 days. :-)
(For extra credit, work out the final orientation of the floating
polyhedron. :-) ) [+]
>
>(4) Using the language of your choice, write an algorithm that receives
>an array of coordinates and meta information that represents a street
>map. (Meta information contains one-way attributes, speed limit, and
>probability of traffic congestion based on time of day.) The algorithm
>also receives a starting coordinate (A), an end coordinate (B), and time
>of day when travel begins. Return an array of coordinates that represent
>the fastest way to get from point A to point B. You have 1 week.
"Hello, MapBlast"? :-)
This one would be a modified graph-traversal problem.
(It could get interesting, as the transit-times of the arcs would be
computed on the fly during a maze search.)
>
>
>These are how you test if someone can develop software. If I were hiring
>people, and I got a guy that could produce the answer to these 4
>questions, I would hire him (or her) on the spot. Answering just one of
>these questions shows aptitude.
[*] an alternative is to give all edges on a face a consistent
orienting, based on the outward normal, then use the signed
area of the projected face. This would probably work even better.
[+] these may be slightly facetious, but a practical -- well, sort of --
application would be either the simulation of ice cubes dropping
in a glass of soda (think raytracing/rendering), or the actions
of icebergs in the ocean.
Hollow solids might be useful in ship modeling.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 18:47:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try looking at the dictionary definition for 'free'. No payment is just
one of the several definitions.
Chris...
Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I'm merely pointing out that, as behooves us on a Linux newsgroup, when
>>I say "this app is free" I mean much, much more than just "it doesn't
>>cost anything".
>
>Hmmm...don't folks in Linux newsgroups know the difference
>between "free" and "free and open source"?
>
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From: "KingJester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rawrite question
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:32:09 -0500
what file do i have to rawrite to make a bootable floppy....i can't remember
and i lost my boot floppy...i have NT so i can't install LiLo
thanx for any help
kingjester
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From: Le physicien nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE is giving me huge fucking headaches...
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 02:10:21 -0400
Zeleng wrote:
> It's been a week since I first tried to install the K Desktop
> Environment... and for a week now, I still haven't been able to pass
> the "./configure" stage.
>
> At some point during the configuration, it gives me an error message:
>
> checking for KDE... configure: error:
> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed.
> This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!
>
> I've tried EVERYTHING: I've tried depackaging 'kdebase-1.1.1.tar.gz' to
> different directories; I've tried unsucessfully to change some stuff in
> that 'configure' file; I've tried to create symbolic links with some
> headers in every subdirectories inimaginable in /usr/local/kde (where
> KDE Base is unpacked). Hell, I even e-mailed Stephen Kulow, but got no
> answer as of yet...
>
> What the hell is wrong with me? Some help would be most welcomed...
>
> BTW, I'm running Slackware 3.6 with the 2.0.35 Linux kernel.
>
> -- Zeleng --
I also use Slackware 3.6 with kernel 2.0.35
I installed KDE successfully but the files need to be compiled in a certain
order
First, kdelibs
kdebase
kdesupport
kdeadmin
kdenetwork
kdeutils
kdegraphics
kdemultimedia
kdegames
killustrator
This should help, good luck!
Jacques
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From: "Brian D Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two Questions From experienced Linux User
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:14:25 -0500
Reply-To: "Brian D Sutterfield" <sutterbk[Change to @]ix.netcom.com>
#1: I have just installed RH 5.2 on an older P-100 with 2GB IDE drive
installed. It has Ontrack's disk manager software installed which looks for
and tries to load (DOS equivalent/Win95/Win98) off of the first partition.
I have installed lilo, done an FDISK /MBR, reinstalled lilo, read the FAQs
and tried to un-install the disk loader with the Ontrack manager with no
luck, currently am booting off of a floppy. Any Ideas without low level
formatting?
#2: I have probably done something really stupid, but just can't put my
finger on it. The above box hostname is burt. I can ftp from burt to my
other RH5.2 boxes, no problem. Telnet both directions, ping all directions.
Now when I ftp from any other box to burt, I receive a connection, but no
completion, never even get the chance to enter a user. The ftp will time
out and be disconnected. I have updated my host tables, host.allow and
ftpaccess files as well as the inetd.conf just in case ftp was commented
out. Nothing seems substantially different from my other Linux boxes on the
network. The only error in the /var/log/messages log other than time-outs
is one upon a reboot:
burt ftpd[3284]: getpeername (in.ftpd): Socket operation on non-socket.
NIC:SMC ultra 8216 ISA
IP:192.168.50.10
Thanks in advance for any help.
Brian S.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: can't understand this netscape behavior
Date: 4 Jun 1999 20:51:44 GMT
why netscape doesn't do charset encoding for value field of input tag?
Is there any way to make netscape do this?
thanks.
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From: "K Hui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: redhat5.2+win98 How?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:19:32 -0700
Hi,
I am totally new to linux. I try to install both redhat5.2 and win98 to
my pc. I went through the Internet, but most of the How-to only teach
ppl about linux+win95. So can anyone tell me how to install linux+win98?
Which one should I install first?
And, I have 2 harddisks:
1Gb: Master Disk,
4Gb, Slave Disk.
Since I don't know how many spaces linux probably need, and I heard that the
LILO must be placed in the boot drive, so can anyone suggest me how to
partiction the disks?
Thanks for any advice,
kw
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael C. Vergallen)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 5 Jun 1999 07:12:01 GMT
In article <NdH53.253$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Mulligan wrote:
>
>Thomas Parsli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Thomas Parsli wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > >4) Can you give an example of a PROFESSIONAL OS?
>> >
>> > VMS, MVS, MCP, OS/360
>>
>> And those OS'es have _never_ had a serious bug?
>>
>> Thomas
>
>To the best of my knowledge, yeah, excluding Y2K of course, but then IBM
>Planned
>that for their end of century stock options.
About VMS ... I would say to you " go and ask Visa about how bug free VMS is
..." don't expect to recieve a honnest answer ofcourse ... because the Russian
poeple get a lot of "unofficial donations" from Visa.
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From: "KingJester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rawrite question
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:59:39 -0500
ok....i answered that question myself.... i got the boot.img file rawrited,
but it wants to run me through an installation..... how do i get a floppy
that will just boot my system already existing?
kingjester
KingJester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jaere$rvj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> what file do i have to rawrite to make a bootable floppy....i can't
remember
> and i lost my boot floppy...i have NT so i can't install LiLo
>
> thanx for any help
> kingjester
>
>
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From: Jonathan Alpers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Checking free space on file systems
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:18:47 +1200
How can I check how many blocks are used/free on an ext2 file system,
while the device is mounted?
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From: Harry Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux + BeOS + Windows
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:05:20 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 6/4/99, 7:29:16 PM, Kaya Imre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re:=20
Linux + BeOS + Windows:
> Aureliano Buendia wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to have all three on the same box?
> >
> > I currently have a dual-boot system with Windows and Linux residing =
on
> > separate hard-drives.
> >
> > Aureliano
> I have installed Windows+OS/2+Linux in three boxes and they
> all work fine. I use OS/2 boot manager instead of lilo.
I've W98, BeOS 4 and Linux Redhat 6.0 on the same box. W98 and Linux=20
on the first harddisk and BeOS on the second harddisk. I'm using LILO.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: Checking free space on file systems
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:37:48 +1000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> How can I check how many blocks are used/free on an ext2 file system,
> while the device is mounted?
>
>
use "df"
Ben
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