Linux-Misc Digest #515, Volume #20                Sun, 6 Jun 99 10:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  I Still cant get the new kernel to install in  SuSE1.6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Debian 2.1, pon and a general protection error (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  Something is destroying my man pages! (Mircea)
  Re: Help with TAR (M. Buchenrieder)
  RedHat installation problem with a Compaq Deskpro 6000 ("Prova")
  Re: "su" always returns 0 (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: RH 5.1 version.h file!!! (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: connection to ":0.0" refused by server (David Vrabel)
  Re: 130 Fonts for WP 8 where? (Glitch)
  Re: Sound Problems (Glitch)
  address for the above (Mircea)
  problems compiling new packages (Lankenau)
  Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: A new front in the war is opening! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: GCC Compatibility ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Unstable Netscape ("Jakup Michaelsen")
  Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup.misc
Subject: I Still cant get the new kernel to install in  SuSE1.6
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:32:15 GMT

hi there

        i have been trying for 3 days to get my new kernel to install 
properly in SuSE 6.1, i have tried make_install, tried copying zImage 
tio boot directory and running lilo, and many toher recommendations 
but no luck.


        can someone tell me how its done?????

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: Debian 2.1, pon and a general protection error
Date: 6 Jun 1999 11:46:05 GMT

Barry Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jun  5 08:25:36 DATAMAN1 kernel: general protection: 0000 
>Jun  5 08:25:36 DATAMAN1 kernel: CPU:    0 
>Jun  5 08:25:36 DATAMAN1 kernel: EIP:    
>0010:[serial:register_serial_R3425f38c+-12012/324] 
>Jun  5 08:25:36 DATAMAN1 kernel: EFLAGS: 00010202 

>Can anyone suggest what may be wrong?

You're encountering a kernel bug. The data you posted is by itself mostly
useless; you'll need to follow the instructions in
...linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt to get useful info out of it.

Ray
-- 
UNFAIR  Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried 
to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS.     
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan  

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Something is destroying my man pages!
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 08:55:23 -0400

Hello-

I have a very nice Slackware 3.6 system, that I've upgraded to khe 2.2.x
kernel series, plus all the required packages upgrades, and a large
quantity of other software. Everything considered, a nice system I'm
very satisfied with. However, a strange process insidiously took place
over the past couple of months, that I have no explanation for: I'm
loosing man pages. Every once in a while, one of my man pages (_only_
the ones in the (1) and (8) sections) dissapears, and becomes replaced
with a file with the same name, but only 20 bytes in size, and nothing
inside. So far it happened to insmod(1), man(1), rmmod(1), dmesg(8),
mount(8), pnpdump(8), and last night, to mke2fs(8). I remember reading
the mke2fs man page a couple of weeks ago, but when I tried to view it
again yesterday, it was gone AWOL :(
Nobody else than me has access to the system (unless I'm attacked by a
cracker with a very twisted sense of humor, but I doubt it), and I
cannot find anything to provide an explanation in the system logs.

What I suspect is man itself kills its own pages, since the timestamp of
the modified files is the same as the time I tried to access them and
found they're corrupted. However I tried to reproduce it in a
"controlled" manner, and wasn't able to get an effect. Also, why only
_some_ of the pages be affected, but not others, or a page that I was
able to view before, suddenly becomes corrupt?

WTF is going on? Any help highly appreciated. TIA,

MST

(remove all capitals from my e-mail address, please)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Help with TAR
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:28:58 GMT

"Andr�s Escribano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hi, i'm new to linux, i only know a little bit. I want to install a
>program that i downloaded in tar format but i can't.

>The command i write is tar -xvf and the name of the file.

Well, this at least sorts out the usual tar problem:
Not using the -f flag :)
If the command 

tar -xvf filename.tar 

didn't create a subdirectory with all the archive files within it,
then try

tar -xvf ./filename.tar

instead (assuming that the filename.tar archive is in the current 
directory).

Michael
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From: "Prova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.help
Subject: RedHat installation problem with a Compaq Deskpro 6000
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:54:36 +0200

Hi to all,
    my pc is configuration is:
    COMPAQ Deskpro 6000 with integrated 10/100 network card (NetIntelligent)
and 192 Mb Ram.
    Two hard disks:
        1- 2.0 Gb with Winnt 4.0 installed
        2- 3.2 Gb where i have installed linux.

    I'm installing Linux Redhat v. 5.2 and i am encountering a lot of
problem:
    1- When i try to configure LILO on the MBR it doesn't work and the
        installation goes in an infinitive loop.
    2- When i try to configure the network card there's no way that the
installation
        procedure detect it itself.

    Thanks to all who help me.

    Francesco



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: "su" always returns 0
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:44:33 GMT

Bryan Brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

>Even worse, performing the following command as root, where the file
>/tmp/xxx does not exist:

>    su - bbrandt -c "cat /tmp/xxx; echo $?"

[...]

Eh - this is actually your current shell; it tells su to do 'echo 0' , 
since the double-quotes are incorrect in this syntax . 
Use single-quotes instead.

Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: RH 5.1 version.h file!!!
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:56:51 GMT

Mike Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I don't have a version.h file on my Red Hat 5.1, kernel version
>2.0.34-0.6 computer. I also don't have the /linux directory under the
>/usr/include directory.

[...]

Install the kernel sources and possibly the development packages.

Michael
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Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: David Vrabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:45:17 +0100

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what this error means?
> 
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> 
> I was groovin' right along happy as a clam 'cause for
> the first time in a year, I had everything on my Linux
> box working.  All of a sudden like I had been smote
> by the hand of God, up pops this message when I
> tried to execute netscape.  I also get it when I try to
> open an xterm.  No programs run on my machine
> anymore either.  What did I do?
Did you delete the ~/.Xauthority file?  If so quit the X server and
restart it.

David Vrabel


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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 06:31:28 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 130 Fonts for WP 8 where?

ever think of posibly contacting Corel?

Donald E. Stidwell wrote:
> 
> I have the full version of WP 8 and I can't find the alledged 130 fonts
> anywhere. Only about a dozen were installed doing a full install.
> 
> Using the Font Installer doesn't find anymore fonts and I've looked on
> the CD. I've searched DejaNews and no one seems to know the answer to
> this question.
> 
> So last shot - where are the 130 fonts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Don

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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 06:34:04 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Problems

maybe you got hacked and someone messsed with your sound files?


check your permissions and make sure they are set correctly.

Brandon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> It started yesterday.  The TIK client, which had played sound fine
> previously, starting playing it inconsistently.  It would play the sound
> for a few minutes, then stop, but now it has stopped completely.
> 
> When I try to play an mp3 in x11amp, it exits.  When I try to use play,
> I get sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy.
> RH 6.0's sndconfig now says it can't open /dev/audio when trying to play
> the sample song.
> 
> The strange thing is I can still listen to mp3s using mpg123.  Ok, this
> is getting stranger by the minute, now when I try to play them using
> mpg123, they don't work either.  Licq's sounds stopped working
> yesterday, so I used the PC Speaker, which stopped working a few hours
> later.
> 
> My Audio Mixer settings are fine, and I haven't changed ANYTHING with my
> configuration over this time, and it certainly isn't a problem with my
> sound card.  WTF is going on here people?!  I'd GREATLY appreciate any
> help.  (Sorry to be annoying like this, but could you please email all
> replies, as my news server is down and roaming through dozens of
> cluttered Deja pages would be hell, thanks.)
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: address for the above
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:00:45 -0400

Sorry about that, see the header of this message for the reply address,
concerning my message above.

MST

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From: Lankenau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems compiling new packages
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:03:28 +0200

Hello!

I enjoy compiling new packages like new gnome-software or kde 2.0 snapsho=
t. But
I am frquently running into strange problems. I often need other librarie=
s or
the does just not compile without errors. It's ok for me to download and
install missing ibraries. But sometimes I think my distribution is the pr=
oblem.
I'm using SuSE 6.0. Has someone compared SuSE with RH or Caldera. Is it
possible that my situation improves when switching to RH or Caldera?

regards
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.lankenau.notrix.de



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: 6 Jun 1999 13:26:00 GMT

In his obvious haste, Peter Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Alex Lam wrote:
:> 

: This has happened to me recently on RH 5.2 w/Netscape 4.6.  I had the
: same symptoms as you, but of course it could be a different problem.
: Anyway, if you're lucky enough to be on a network, you can telnet to
: your linux box and kill X or whatever it is that's locked up the
: keyboard/mouse.

Nahhhh... Killing netscape should be enough.

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|     Computer Science     |  the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..."  |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A new front in the war is opening!
Date: 6 Jun 1999 13:37:34 GMT

In his obvious haste, Vikinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Proprietarianism has NO PLACE in the Linux community!  Linux is NOT about
: money!

Oh GET A LIFE!
Linux isn't, but the games industry IS.
Good on Microprose for deciding that Linux is big enough now to start
supporting it...

If you don't like it, don't BUY it.
I notice your not slamming Corel or StarDivision for releaseing WordPerfect
8, WordPerfect Office 2000 (coming soon aparently) and StarOffice 5.0 for
Linux... They all cost money for the un-knobbled versions.
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|       Finalist in:-      |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
|     Computer Science     |        can't stand 1 bit of competition.       |
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ o+ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ |
|5++ X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! :( |

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: 6 Jun 1999 13:25:05 GMT

In his obvious haste, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Hi,
:     I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
: fine until
: I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
: netscape frozen up.  

I think that's a common problem with all versions of Netscape.
(It happens on Netscape 3 on this Sun Station under Solaris as well.)

Unless you're networked to another machine and can rlogin or telnet to the
crashed machine, there's not much you can do, I don't think.

If you ARE lucky enough to be networked, then telnet in as tha same user
that started netscape, and kill it. This should free up X and everything
will be working again.

(The system itself hasn't crashed, just Netscape, unfortunately taking all
X event processing with it) 
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|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
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|      Finalist in:-       |good to you so far...                           |
|    Computer Science      |   -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++|
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire|

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GCC Compatibility
Date: 6 Jun 1999 13:21:56 GMT

In his obvious haste, Andrea Peri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:07:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrea Peri) wrote:

:>Hi!
:>
:>I have compiled a little program on a Linux Machine with RedHat 5.2
:>using gcc
:>i.e:  gcc -i test.c -o test.execute

Compile the program non-statically again and copy it to the old OS.
Then type in 
% ldd test.execute

That should tell you what libraries it links to, and which ones are missing
from the older system.

It could then just be a matter of copying the libraries over.

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|      Finalist in:-       | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|     Computer Science     | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"                   |
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|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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From: "Jakup Michaelsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unstable Netscape
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:08:36 +0100

Greets.
One of Linux's strengths is allegeldy it's stability. I hear that, but non
the less my Netscape crashes more often then kernel32.dll - if that's at all
possible. I just sit there, surfing, using like 3-6 browser windows at once,
and all of a sudden: the disapear without a trace!
This shit has always happend, no matter what distro I've been using - Redhat
5.2 & 6.0 and SuSE 5.3. What da heck is wrong?!
I'm being forced to use Windows, and it's not Bill's fault this time >:->

I'd greatly appreciate any replies.
Thank you.
- Jakup



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me
Date: 6 Jun 1999 13:04:24 GMT

In his obvious haste, James Robert Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: This is the type of information I'm looking for.  I'm getting ready to 
: grab a cdrom distribution from Linux Mall or CheapBytes and I don't know 
: which one to get.  I'm running Debian now that I downloaded and 
: installed, but I'm wondering if I should try suse, RH, Caldera or stick 
: with Debian.  I'm ok with how Debian handles things, but I wonder if 
: another distro could do it better, and there's the fact that I have a 
: Permedia2 video card and suse has a driver for it built in...

I'm a SuSE user, and recently had a dabble trying to install Red Hat on a
spare 200 Meg hard disk (Something I had no problem with under SuSE).

The differences were quite....huge.
I can now say from experience that YaST is far superior a setup tool.
(This is comparing Red Hat 5.2 with SuSE 5.2)

In SuSE, it gives details in every step, and more options.
Starting with disk partitioning and assigning of mount points. With Red Hat,
it asks for the mount points and gives the option of "Check for bad blocks
during format" or "Normal format". In SuSE, there's the extra one which is
invaluable... "No Format", which leaves the file system intact.

When you get to package selection, SuSE is even more friendly. With Red Hat,
you can step through the packages and install what you want, true. But it
doesn't give you any idea WHAT each package is.

In YaST, pressing F2 will bring up not only a description of the package,
but a list of the files it contains.

Also, in Red Hat, it tells you how much you're installing, but doesn't tell
you how much room you have left.

In YaST, each time a new package is selected/deselected it updates the % of
free space on each of the partitions, letting you know how much more you can
install safely.

Finally, after while you're selecting packages, YaST warns you of any
dependencies during selection, allowing you to auto-install all the
dependencies, or ignore them. When you get to the point of installing after
you've finished the selection, if gives a list of all dependencies, and
allows you to select which ones you want.

Red Hat just offers you the option of fixing all dependencies or none.
(Which, in the case of my 200 Meg hard disk, pushed it over the limit).
This then continued to install, and only complained when it ran out of
space. YaST warns you when you're out of space....

And that's just the package installation stage...
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|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e>e++ h/h+ !r!| Space for hire |
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