Linux-Misc Digest #515, Volume #21 Mon, 23 Aug 99 08:13:14 EDT
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XML SIG meeting Tuesday 24 August 1999: Elliotte Rusty Harold speaks on XML
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Re: More kind words from M$. (Peter Samuelson)
Re: More kind words from M$. (Peter Samuelson)
associate extensions with applications ("emil c.")
Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Peter Samuelson)
Strange Samba problem (root)
Re: Linux text editor .. (SkAtAn)
Re: Linux text editor .. (SkAtAn)
Re: Cleaning DOS break chars and text wrapping in FTE? (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Re: Strange Samba problem (root)
lilo and Ontrack (Yannick Arnoud)
Re: *nix vs. MS security (John Thompson)
Mounting a file system Read Only (Girish Kamath)
UNIX/LINUX Calendar????????? (Henner Wasenitz)
A ? about Samba (root)
Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Paul Sherwin)
Re: KDE/GNOME (Bill Ripley)
Re: why not C++? (Jon Skeet)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,nyc.seminars
Subject: XML SIG meeting Tuesday 24 August 1999: Elliotte Rusty Harold speaks on XML
Date: 23 Aug 1999 08:16:05 GMT
The World OS will be here soon. Most of it has already been built.
What remains to be done is equip XML with interpreters and debug the
cryptographic infrastructure.
http://www.usenix.org/events/dsl99/brochure/techtues.html
Elliotte Rusty Harold is a world renowned XML expert. His latest book on
XML is huge and looks to be even better than his last.
The XMLSIG asks that, if you plan to come, that you register for
this event.
Below is the official notice of the XMLSIG.
Below that is a corrected version of the blurb for my rant on
the World OS.
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
<official-notice org="XMLSIG" place="New York City">
========== Forwarded message ==========
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:56:25 -0400
From: W. E. Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XML SIG meeting Tuesday 24 August--Elliotte Rusty Harold
The next meeting of the XML SIG of the Object Developers Group
will be held on Tuesday, August 24, 7-9 p.m., at Goldman Sachs,
125 Broad Street, 19th Floor, Room B. (Please note that this is a
change from our usual location at Prudential Securities. The
Goldman Sachs location is just across Broad Street from our usual
venue at 1 New York Plaza.)
The speaker will be Elliotte Rusty Harold, and the topic will be
XML Linking, concentrating on the latest drafts of the XLink (
http://www.w3.org/TR/xlink ) and XPointer (
http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xptr ) specifications.
Elliotte Rusty Harold ( http://www.macfaq.com/personal.html ) is
the author of _XML: Extensible Markup Language_ (
http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/xml/ ) and the newly-published
_The XML Bible_ ( http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/ ), and
is well-known for his Cafe con Leche compendium of XML news and
resources ( http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/ ). His presentation to the
SIG will cover a crucial (and too long neglected) component of the
XML family of standards. Those who aim to be well-prepared for
this session might review two chapters of _The XML Bible_ posted
at http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/updates/16.html and
http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/updates/17.html .
To register for this session, please send a request by email
direct to me mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. You will receive a
confirmation by return email.
FYI, there will be a meeting of the XML SIG in the week of
September 27, exact date, topic, speaker and location to be
announced. The October meeting will be on the 18th (our usual
Monday) at Prudential Securities, 7-9 p.m., with Bob DuCharme
speaking on the W3C Schema Proposal. Announcements, and
instructions for reserving places, will be sent closer to the
dates of these meetings.
Thank you,
Walter Perry
XML SIG Leader
Object Developers Group
</official-notice>
<old-blurb last-update-date="22 August 1999">
Subject: Tuesday 27 July 1999, in Manhattan, Jay Sulzberger will rant on
Lisp, XML, Scalable Scripting, and the World OS.
Note that is not an official LXNY event.
I will start at 6:30 pm at Prolifics, 116 John Street, 20th floor, thanks
to the kind invitation of Bruce Ingalls and the cppsig
http://www.cppsig.org .
Map: http://www.cppsig/images/prolifics.gif
Today's http/html protocol stack, even with Java, Office, QT, Javascript,
PHP, and Perl running at both ends of the connection, is too often awkward
for the programmer to use, and annoying for the user to program. XML is
the chosen panacea of the influential W3 Consortium. XML today is almost
entirely simply a well defined syntax for S expressions, which are both
the input and output of the functional core of Lisp, an ancient
traditional language of logicians and programmers. But XML today lacks
the other half of Lisp: the interpreter that, given an S expression, hands
back the value of the S expression. This value is always itself an S
expression, which may again be subjected to evaluation. One of the
advantages of this style of computation is that, to use the offputting
jargon of the Functional Cabal, if all evaluations are really pure
evaluations without "side effects", then using arbitrarily many computers,
rather than just one, or a few, is made considerably easier. Most of the
world's computers today sit idle most of the time. The coming year will
see the construction of the universal XML interpreter, which with an
improved browser, will give us the kernel/interpreter and a shell for the
World OS.
Lisp in action:
http://www.whitehouse.gov
The great XML hoard:
http://www.oasis-open.org/cover
For XML, and indeed every document, down to the last bit, as an
un-evaluated S expression:
http://sanpietro.red-bean.com/~craig/grover
http://www.prescod.net/groves/shorttut
Suggestions for how to evaluate XML:
http://www.xmlscript.org
http://www.risource.org
http://dportal.co.uk/pxml
http://www.xmlforall.com
<thanks to="Phil Wadler" for="reminding me of above site"/>
Databases that are already patently S expressions:
http://www.hsdi.com/qddb
http://www.multivaluedatabases.com
http://www.framerd.org
And in a related story, qscheme is an up and coming contender for
the title "Fastest Interpreted Scheme in the World":
http://www.sof.ch/dan/qscheme/index-e.html
I gave this harangue last year at a meeting of LXNY and I was lucky enough
to be heckled by two distinguished New York Kibologists, and defended by
an entire family of extremely charming hackers, some of whom flew in from
JPL. Perl Mongers and Kibologists are always particularly welcome to come
on down and help deal with the excess cheese.
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
LXNY is an organization in support of the Free Software Movement, and we
welcome all supporters of free software, whether or not you run, or even
like, the Linux kernel, gcc, clisp, cmucl, gcl, cfengine, bc, ABS, Amanda,
Bash, Bison, Yacc, COAS, Eddie, Elegant, Emacs, vim, Erlang, Essence,
FreeDOS, Sather, SmallEiffel, Jacal, apache, the FreeBSD kernel, chimera,
fvwm, fftw, Octave, GNOME, GPG, Guile, gawk, Hello, Jikes, KDE, Perl,
Python, fortune, the Hurd, Gwydion's not-quite-Dylan, Ocaml, oleo, XFree,
Gamora, gdbm, gmp, gnat, gimp, gnuProlog, TeX, gs, gv, Intercal, lilo,
fips, mlos, rpm, mocka, PM, PyBrenda, Gambit, R, readline, qscheme, SIAG,
siod, SCM, SLIB, Screamer, Stalin, STk, sendmail, procmail, Squeak,
SML/NJ, stBasic, units, xscreensaver, XLispStat, XXL, ZOPE, zsh, etc..
What is Free Software? http://www.fsf.org
</old-blurb>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: More kind words from M$.
Date: 23 Aug 1999 02:37:17 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Brett Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Well as long as you don't count all the gobbledy-gook the prepend to
> every word to tell you what kind of word it actually is ;)
LOL!
I have it from reliable sources that the real Hungarian language does
*not* do this.... (:
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: More kind words from M$.
Date: 23 Aug 1999 02:44:52 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Alternatively, he can say
>
> unplea~1 . unpleasa. ntly .
You're forgetting Unicode. It actually becomes
UNPLEA~1 and u^@n^@p^@l^@e^@^O^@�a^@s^@a^@n^@t^@l^@^@^@y^@
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: "emil c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: associate extensions with applications
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:33:56 +0200
Hi
Does anyone know how to associate applications to files with certain
extensions (like in winblows), if possible!?
e.g. I want all my *.html to be executed by Netscape, and not kfm under
KDE.
Thanks
-emil-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: 23 Aug 1999 04:22:42 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux,
> > since [...] I use 3com EtherLink III ISA (3C509/3C509b) network
> > interface card, and there are no drivers which will support my card
> > in Linux.
[<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Ooops?
> One of my Linux boxes does use a 3C509. Had no problems to get it
> running. Even the Linux which included kernel 2.0.33 supported it.
Yeah, the 3c509 has been supported for ages. I *did* have trouble
getting a PnP version to run once (back in the 2.0.29 days I believe),
but IIRC I ended up just having to download a newer driver.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Strange Samba problem
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:23:35 -0400
RH 6.0 and Samba 2.0.5a. Install Samba is smooth.
But once I issue this command to see the shares: "smbclient -L
<machine_name> -N"
the error is: "session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadsw (Bad password -
name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
Actually I can access samba shares without any problems, and I think the
smb.conf file is also configured correctly. And I issued the same
command before without this error. What happened?
Any idea about this one?
Thanks a lot!!! Please also email me.
Jack
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From: SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux text editor ..
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:23:36 +0200
Paul Seelig wrote:
>
> SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I am looking for a text editor under linux (console)
> > that looks and works like edit.com (microshaft) ..
> > for example pico ..
> >
> Ahem, "mcedit" from the Midnight Commander has at least a reliable
> undo function.
Ok thanx .. mcedit is pretty much what I was looking for..
are there others like this one ?
SkAtAn/freax
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From: SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux text editor ..
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:15:10 +0200
> vi
I know vi :-) it's not what I am looking for
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.editors
Subject: Re: Cleaning DOS break chars and text wrapping in FTE?
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:21:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:04:08 GMT, justame@~.~ <justame@~.~> wrote:
>When opening a DOS file in emacs, sometimes you'll get those ^M
>thingys which can be cleaned with replace-string C-q C-m.
>Apparently those same files in FTE (linux) show a little "musical
>note" ascii character at the end of a line. Any idea how to clean
>these out in FTE? (Yet these same files don't always show an ^M in
>emacs)
I am sure you are aware of the dos2unix command?
dos2unix will do the job...
--
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 3585990 # Not only
Get my public pgp / gpg key from # Open Source(TM)
http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/pubkeymoritz # but also
KDE forever! Use Linux to impress your friends! # Open Minded!
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Strange Samba problem
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:41:14 -0400
root wrote:
> RH 6.0 and Samba 2.0.5a. Install Samba is smooth.
>
> But once I issue this command to see the shares: "smbclient -L
> <machine_name> -N"
>
> the error is: "session setup failed: ERRSRV - ERRbadsw (Bad password -
> name/password pair in a Tree Connect or Session Setup are invalid.)
>
> Actually I can access samba shares without any problems, and I think the
> smb.conf file is also configured correctly. And I issued the same
> command before without this error. What happened?
>
> Any idea about this one?
>
> Thanks a lot!!! Please also email me.
>
> Jack
I fixed this one.
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From: Yannick Arnoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo and Ontrack
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:19:14 +0200
I recently bought a 10.1 Go DD as a second disk.
In order to be seen as a 10.1 Go disk by the motherboard (Intel 440 LX),
I had to install ontrack on the MBR. This little soft allows to go over
the 8 Go limit of common motherboards.
The problem is that I want to install linux and I'm afraid that lilo
will erase this ontrack code on the MBR. As a result, I will not be able
to access my second DD.
Is there any way to have both programs on the MBR ?
Yannick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:07:11 -0600
Lew Pitcher wrote:
> Casey Schaufler wrote:
> A while ago, Microsoft defined to us the meaning of "heterogenous network".
> To them, it meant networking MS Windows 3.1, MS Windows/95 and MS Windows/98
> and MS Windows NT 4.0 together.
>
> I wonder what they'd call MS Windows (anything) networked to an IBM OS/390
> system?
"Beyond comprehension" is my guess...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Girish Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Mounting a file system Read Only
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:30:55 GMT
Hi
I am using RedHat 5.2 I want to boot my Linux Box using Boot/Root
Disk and mount the hard disk as Read only.
After I boot using the boot / root disk, I am unable to mount
the hard disk as Read only. The mount command does not give me
an option to mount my hda read only.
Can any one help me?
Iam using the following command to mount my hda
# mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
Thanks in Advance
Girish Kamath.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henner Wasenitz)
Subject: UNIX/LINUX Calendar?????????
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:38:05 GMT
Hello, I am Henner Wasenitz.
I need some help to create a UNIX/Linux calendar in poster size.
Lehmanns Bookshop in Germany will print 250,000 copies and give them
away for FREE.
More informations at http://www.lob.de/calendar
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: A ? about Samba
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:53:41 -0400
RH 6.0 and Samba 2.0.5a, get rid of the 2.0.3 version included in RH.
In the /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf, I changed the "comment" value
from "Samba Server" to "Samba Server 2.0.5a". Then restart the Samba
Issue "smbclient -L <machine name> -N", the display like following:
one line of the first part is:
"Sharename Type Comment"
IPC$ IPC IPC Service(Samba Server 2.0.5a)
one line of the 2nd part is:
Server Comment
<machine name> Samba Server 2.0.3
Here's my question: since I already update the 'comment' value in
'smb.conf' file, the first 'comment' value in the display is correct and
understandable, but what about the 2nd 'comment' value in the display?
Where does the 'Samba Server 2.0.3" come from? it even doesn't match
the old 'comment' value which is 'Samba Server'! I know it should relate
to the upgrade of Samba package. But I don't know why.
Could anyone explain this to me? Thanks a lot!!!
Please also email me!
Jack
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:27:04 GMT
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:50:05 +0200, "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>How shall I get those drivers? I have been at the 3com site, but they do not
>mention Linux; I plan to phone them directly.
>
The 3C509 is one of the commonest ISA ethernet cards around.AFAIK,
every Linux distribution includes support for this card, either
compiled into a kernel or as a loadable module.
However, you may need the DOS setup program if you don't have it
already. I suggest you reconfigure the card, switching off PnP and
setting IRQ and IO values manually. You get fewer problems that way.
You can get the 3Com config program from the 3Com website.
Best regards, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.telinco.co.uk/psherwin/index.htm
Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager +44 (0)7666 797228
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From: Bill Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: Re: KDE/GNOME
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 06:51:20 -0400
type "switchdesk" is vt window
Mal wrote:
> I have selected the AFTERSTEP setup on Red Hat v6, how can I revert back
>
> to KDE or GNOME. I have tried but the option I had when i had a GNOME/KDE
>
> desktop to switch desktops is nopt available in AFTERSTEP. Does somebody
>
> know how to revert from AFTERSTEP to either KDE/GNOME. Your help would be
>
> much appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:25:05 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think the desire to make string classes and then be able to concatenate
> strings together with + is the reason most found the idea appealing.
> However, I think operator overloading is a bad idea for the most part.
Were you partially responsible for Java, out of interest? ;)
(For the most part, I agree, btw.)
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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