Linux-Misc Digest #739, Volume #20               Tue, 22 Jun 99 08:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: printing ps files on Linux (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: kernel 2.3.6 - memory allocation errors? (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: Visual programming languages for Linux (Alan Gauld)
  Re: pci modem ("Rui Soutelino")
  Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (The UnSeen)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was:   (Jim Henderson)
  Re: Linux on >8gb drives (Przem Kowalczyk)
  Re: Little help, please? (Pat Heuvel)
  Re: Modems! (Andrew Comech)
  Re: GDM was murdered mysteriously - how do I fix it? ("Michael T. Bird")
  Re: Modems! (Duncan Simpson)
  Newbie wants opinions on programming linux and pet project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problem with Iomega Zip (Luca Satolli)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: printing ps files on Linux
Date: 22 Jun 1999 10:45:45 GMT

In <7klk2v$273$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Thomas Freixanet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is it possible to print Postscript files on non Postscript printer on
>> Linux ? I can do that on Windows using ghostview but the Linux version
>There is ghostscript.  It can interpret Postscript and generate
>output for most known printers.  I used it to print PostScript
>files on a 24-pin dot matrix.

>Typical command line goes about

>gs -sDEVICE=some-device -sOutputFile=\|lpr -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER foo.ps -c quit

>but look at the manpage too, of course :)

Usually one does with as an input filter either globally or via one of
the automagic format sensing programs out there. My system uses the
magic filter package which looks for the appropiate mag8ic numbers and
invokes the appropiate command. (This can invoke futher magic filter rules).

Most things end up turning into postscript which gets turned into
something my ink jet printer understands by ghostscript. I often feed the
lpr command postscript and rarely notice my printer does not undestand
postscript itself (just like failing to notice crossing mount points).

--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: kernel 2.3.6 - memory allocation errors?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 10:30:44 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

<stuff snipped>

>On boot I get:

>init: error in loading shared libraries:
>/lib/libNoVersion.so.1:
>failed to map segment from shared object:  cannot allocate memory.

Been there, done that. printk loading indicated the error was in
get_unmapped_area in mm/mmap.c. Try the following fix

--- mmap.c.dist Tue Jun 22 11:30:25 1999
+++ mmap.c      Tue Jun 22 11:31:23 1999
@@ -358,6 +358,7 @@
 
        for (vmm = find_vma(current->mm, addr); ; vmm = vmm->vm_next) {
                /* At this point:  (!vmm || addr < vmm->vm_end). */
+                addr=PAGE_ALIGN(addr);
                if (TASK_SIZE - len < addr)
                        return 0;
                if (!vmm || addr + len <= vmm->vm_start)

which worked for me (not to the extent I could do a complete boot though).


>I'm in the process at the moment (so it's untested) of updating to glibc
>2.1.1 - I am grabbing the RPM for RH6 - hopefully this'll help... 8-)

This does not help, because the mmap bug alluded to above still gets
you. The fix above addresses the bug itself but proabbly not in the
best manner possible.

--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visual programming languages for Linux
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:46:28 +0100

Ananke wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone can suggest a good visual language for
> developing and using a database online on a Linux box.

Check out www.megido(sp?).org - they are doing a Delphi clone 
for Linux - the pascal compiler works, the IDE is very much 
'under construction'.

Also Visual Prolog is avauilable for non commercial use 
and various Smalltalk implementations - Squeak, Visual Works
etc.

Also there is the SpecTCL tool(scriptics.com?) which 
generates GUIs for TCL, Perl, Python, Java.

Visual tools for databases are harder... 
ie I don't know of any ;-)

Alan G.

-- 
=================================================
This post represents the views of the author 
and does not necessarily accurately represent 
the views of BT.

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From: "Rui Soutelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pci modem
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:17:24 +0100

Because: probably it�s a winmodem.


nitraat <"nitraat "@hda.hydro.com>
>My pci modem works not with Linux, why ?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The UnSeen)
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:49:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Hong) writes:
> 
> That is why Solaris comes with Linux nowadays.

Err, I've never seen an official Solaris OS distribution from Sun that
included Linux/SPARC.  Unless something has changed recently...

<snip>

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From: Jim Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was:  
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:44:00 -0600

Being based in Utah, it's in the papers on a regular basis.  I've been
keeping an eye on it, but it surprises me that the DoJ isn't using the
AARD code in their case against Microsoft.

The history of this part of the industry, though, is facinating to me. 
The story I've heard is that Microsoft included the NetWare File/Print
services after Ray Noorda (former chairman of Novell) hung up on Gates. 
Interesting that the implementation of NetWare File/Print Services
*almost* works on Microsoft platforms, but not completely - the NCPs
advertise as NetWare 3.x NCPs, but are actually NetWare 2.x NCPs (even
today).  The reverse-engineering isn't very good overall.

Anyways, Noorda retired from Novell several years ago and invested in
Caldera, who then purchased DR-DOS from Novell with the sole intent of
suing Microsoft over the demise of Digital Research.  It's very
twisted/convoluted, but I think they stand a good chance.  Caldera has
been able to demonstrate that you can rip out MS-DOS 7 from Win95 and
replace it with Caldera's OpenDOS product and that it works; Microsoft
tried very hard to hide the fact that Win95 runs on top of DOS.

I've always referred to Windows as an Operating Environment - I
understand that Win95 and Win98 do some of the functions of an OS
(interfacing directly to the hardware), which changes a bit of the
definition of what Win9x is - it's more of a hybrid OE/OS.

But that seems to be what Microsoft is all about - blurring the lines in
technology.  They want the browser to be part of the OS (except when
it's at fault for a crash, has anyone else noticed that as well?), and
the OE to be part of the OS.  This is one of the things I really like
about Linux - the lines between OS/OE/Applications are very clear, and
can be swapped out for something else.  When you blur the lines (as
Microsoft has), you lock people into a specific choice for everything. 
For some people, this is OK - for me, it's not. :-)

Jim

Robert McConnell wrote:
> Caldera is now in court trying to prove this to be fact. If they do,
> it will be most interesting to see what recompense they get from
> Microsoft.

-- 
Jim Henderson
Novell Support Connection SysOp - http://support.novell.com/forums

Homepage at http://www.bigfoot.com/~jhenderson (email instructions
located here)

Please note that as an NSC SysOp, I do not provide support for Novell
products on a personal basis - if you need help with a Novell product,
please post a reply in the public newsgroup or visit the Novell support
forums at the URL above.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Przem Kowalczyk)
Subject: Re: Linux on >8gb drives
Date: 22 Jun 1999 09:13:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cameron L. Spitzer in comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Pederson wrote:
>>I'm new to Linux.  I have a copy of Caldera 2.2 and am planning to
>>install it on my Win98 system.  I have an IBM ATA-66 14gm hard disk, but
>>have gotten the impression that the partition Linux is installed in must
>>begin under the 8gb area.  Is this true?  If so, can I start it at say,
>>7.5gb and go to 9.5gb?  I have Partition Magic 4.0, so I can create
>>partitions easily.
>>
>>The messy thing about this is that then I have to have two partitions
>>for Win98, one before and one after the Linux partition.
>
>If the first Win-98 partition ends before the 1024th cylinder, put the
>LILO-related files in a folder on it.  Linux can be installed anywhere.
>It's only the boot stuff that uses BIOS, and it's BIOS that can't
>see beyond the 1023rd cylinder.  The boot stuff does not have to
>be in a Linux partition.

 It  works  only  if you don't use defrag or Norton SpeedDisk. Because lilo
 reads position of kernel and writes it into MBR, if the  position  changes
 lilo can't find kernel and boils out.

Przem

-- 
I know all about the warehouse fire
I know squirrelys didn't chew the wires
                                                        R.E.M

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From: Pat Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Little help, please?
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:39 +1000

Gday Jon (and tarkaan),

Jon Skeet wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Could anyone tell me how to make a file when I can't find that command,
> > or edit a text file when I can't find the editor command either?
> >
> > I need some advice here.  My Caldera box has the infamous LILO "LI" hang
> > problem.  I believe I can fix it by specifying my hard disk geometry in
> > lilo.conf.  Upon reading some news articles on DejaNews, I think I have
> > to do the following:
> >
> --
> Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

Have you checked fdisk, and ensured that your boot partition is, in
fact, marked as bootable?

It is the 'a' command in bootdisk.

...may as well try the simple before you get complicated!

HTH
Pat
-- 

+---------------------------------------------------------+
+  "Logic clearly dictates, that the strokes of the many  +
+   outweigh the strokes of the two..."                   +
+                             (Apologies to Mr Spock)     +
+---------------------------------------------------------+

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Modems!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Jun 1999 21:34:56 -0500

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 03:03:54 +0300, r.tolga wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > YO YO YO!
> > 
> > I'm looking for some reommendations for modems that work well under
> > linux.  Now that I'm in the process of ditching windoze, I gotta get rid
> > of that crappy win-modem. I'm running on a pretty standard P100 system.
> > Kinda looking for something that is reliable, fast and easy to setup
> > under linux. Thanx!
> > 
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> 
> An external modem would be a good choice since you can reset
> it
> by pushing a button even the ppp software crashes.
> I use Zoltrix external 56K, no problems yet.

So far (for one year), not a single problem with an internal one.
As Marcelus Wallace suggested, f$^@ pride and get an internal modem. 

Best,
a.
-- 
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modems

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From: "Michael T. Bird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,redhat.x.general
Subject: Re: GDM was murdered mysteriously - how do I fix it?
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:31:19 -0700


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Steve,

I had the same problem after messing around with some directories on the
filesystem.  For me, I think the problem was that GDM couldn't write to
/tmp.  Clear out any old gdm.pid files and make certain /tmp is accessible.
Then reboot.

Later,

Mike Bird


Steve Hiner wrote:

> I have a RedHat 6.0 system at home that boots straight into X and last night
> when I booted it up the first time it took a LONG time get me to the GNOME
> desktop.  When I tried to shut it down it didn't do anything - after several
> tries I used CTRL-ALT-BKSP to restart X.  Then it let me shut it down.
>
> When I rebooted I got an error message at the login prompt (the text one
> that flashes up on screen before X starts up) that said something indicating
> that due to /var/run/gdm.pid the system thinks that gdm was already running
> but had been "murdered mysteriously."  (Sorry I don't remember the exact
> error message but it was at around 1:30 this morning)  If I hit enter it
> will give me a text based login prompt where I can log in normally.  When I
> try to start X after that it will sit there with a black screen for a while
> then bail out to the command line where I can see that gdm tried to start a
> whole bunch of times and kicked out a similar error message each time - all
> of them about the gdm.pid file and gdm being murdered - each error message
> has a different pid listed after it in ().
>
> What might have caused this?  More importantly, how do I fix it?  When I go
> look at /var/gdm.pid it contains a number which I would assume is the
> process ID for the currently running instance of gdm (this is my first
> experience with .pid files).
>
> This error has rendered my system mostly useless since the error will pop up
> over and over again (every minute or so) and must be getting dumped to stout
> since I was running emacs and it would just cram the error message into
> emacs where my cursor was resting.  Kinda hard to do any configuration
> changes to try to fix it if emacs is going to randomly have extra text
> dumped into it.
>
> Any help, pointers, URLs or tips will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Steve Hiner
>
> P.S. Sorry about the cross-post but I wasn't sure if this was a problem with
> X, with Red Hat or with Linux in general.  I would have posted to
> linux.user.stupid if it was available since this could be user error.

--
Michael T. Bird               email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AETC, Inc.
8910 University Center Ln.
Suite 900                     voice:  (619) 450-1211
San Diego, CA  92122-1012     FAX:    (619) 450-1794



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Steve,
<p>I had the same problem after messing around with some directories on
the
<br>filesystem.&nbsp; For me, I think the problem was that GDM&nbsp;couldn't
write to
<br>/tmp.&nbsp; Clear out any old gdm.pid files and make certain /tmp is
accessible.
<br>Then reboot.
<p>Later,
<p>Mike Bird
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Steve Hiner wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have a RedHat 6.0 system at home that boots straight
into X and last night
<br>when I booted it up the first time it took a LONG time get me to the
GNOME
<br>desktop.&nbsp; When I tried to shut it down it didn't do anything -
after several
<br>tries I used CTRL-ALT-BKSP to restart X.&nbsp; Then it let me shut
it down.
<p>When I rebooted I got an error message at the login prompt (the text
one
<br>that flashes up on screen before X starts up) that said something indicating
<br>that due to /var/run/gdm.pid the system thinks that gdm was already
running
<br>but had been "murdered mysteriously."&nbsp; (Sorry I don't remember
the exact
<br>error message but it was at around 1:30 this morning)&nbsp; If I hit
enter it
<br>will give me a text based login prompt where I can log in normally.&nbsp;
When I
<br>try to start X after that it will sit there with a black screen for
a while
<br>then bail out to the command line where I can see that gdm tried to
start a
<br>whole bunch of times and kicked out a similar error message each time
- all
<br>of them about the gdm.pid file and gdm being murdered - each error
message
<br>has a different pid listed after it in ().
<p>What might have caused this?&nbsp; More importantly, how do I fix it?&nbsp;
When I go
<br>look at /var/gdm.pid it contains a number which I would assume is the
<br>process ID for the currently running instance of gdm (this is my first
<br>experience with .pid files).
<p>This error has rendered my system mostly useless since the error will
pop up
<br>over and over again (every minute or so) and must be getting dumped
to stout
<br>since I was running emacs and it would just cram the error message
into
<br>emacs where my cursor was resting.&nbsp; Kinda hard to do any configuration
<br>changes to try to fix it if emacs is going to randomly have extra text
<br>dumped into it.
<p>Any help, pointers, URLs or tips will be greatly appreciated.
<p>Steve Hiner
<p>P.S. Sorry about the cross-post but I wasn't sure if this was a problem
with
<br>X, with Red Hat or with Linux in general.&nbsp; I would have posted
to
<br>linux.user.stupid if it was available since this could be user error.</blockquote>

<pre>--&nbsp;
Michael T. 
Bird&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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AETC, 
Inc.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
8910 University Center Ln.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Modems!
Date: 22 Jun 1999 11:00:41 GMT

In <7klrup$fo2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>YO YO YO!

>I'm looking for some reommendations for modems that work well under
>linux.  Now that I'm in the process of ditching windoze, I gotta get rid
>of that crappy win-modem. I'm running on a pretty standard P100 system.
>Kinda looking for something that is reliable, fast and easy to setup
>under linux. Thanx!

Get an external modem and hang it off a serial port. AFAIK there are
no external winmodems and they have usueful features, like front panel
lights and siwtches (the latter are useful if you want to disconnect
and the computer is not able to willing to asist---powering off the
modem has worked every time this has happenned to me).

I have used several and all worked (although my USR modem did require
me to take the lid off (it might have got too hot otherwise). At present I
have a 56K modem and hefty phone bills.

--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: Newbie wants opinions on programming linux and pet project
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 01:41:17 GMT


Hello,

I recently started running Redhat 5.2 and thought I might begin to learn a
little about the various languages available.

I want to make the following a pet project while I learn more about linux and
programming during my off hours:

An application for use by about 6 persons logged into a linux box via dumb
terminals (old dos laptops running terminal emulators) for a role playing game.

The main purpose is to allow the players access to their character
     information which would be less than 1 Meg per player.
All options should be accessable from a menu available at all times
    (visible or available by key combination).
The players and game master should be able to cursor through the
     fields and access more detailed information on any one of them -
     history, value, misc notes, etc..
The game Master must have the ability to view and edit any player's
     info at will.

The secondary purpose is for players and game master to communicate
     with others in some sort of "chat" window.
The game master should have control over who chats with whom and when,
     as well as who sees which messages.

It is possible this could grow into a more complex project later on.

My questions:
Is the dumb terminal idea feasible?
What language(s) is/are best for this purpose?
Should I just use Lynx with HTML and CGI scripts?
Should I use C and have flexibility but be forced to code every line?
Should I use SQL? I know very little about it but am willing to learn.
Should/could I use Rebol?


Thanks for any suggestions!


Wade Segade

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (remove the obvious)

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From: Luca Satolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat,linux.scsi,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with Iomega Zip
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:32:59 +0200

HI Alice,
I've a AVA1505, I don't succeed in make it work with ISAPNP.conf. So I've
added the module with kernelcfg. It' trivial, you have just to add an
hostadapter (type 1520, the driver is the same fot 1505, 1510, 1520) with
following option: 0x140, 11, 7 (your base address, the IRQ and the SCSI ID).
It should work fine.
Obviuosly, if u add a new component to your PC IRQ may change, and u must
change the options.

Bye
Luca Satolli


Alice Hansen wrote:

> Sorry... can't help you with your problem....  but was wondering...  My zip
> drive is an external scsi....  I have the AVA 1505 card for it and have not
> been able to get my Linux RedHat 6.0 to find it...  Any chance you could
> help me??  Thanks...


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