Linux-Misc Digest #739, Volume #18 Sat, 23 Jan 99 23:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: DOSEMU Paths ? (Frank Miles)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (allacircle)
Re: problem with rm? (Peter.vanHelden)
Upgrading Redhat (Kevin Currie)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (allacircle)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (allacircle)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Humor: "Your Opinion of MS?" Urinal Mat ("Steve Kremer")
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Michael Carley)
Re: Beowulf Anyone? (Jason Abate)
Please help: "Permission Denied" with RH 5.2 and rsh (Ed Finch)
Re: Upgrading Redhat ("Ima Maroon")
Re: Linux defrag? (Peter.vanHelden)
Re: How to print a man page? (Tom Phelps)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
how to start programming in Linux (Kelvin Leung)
Re: What is the company that makes a lunch box size box? (Phil Brutsche)
Re: Using Internal PCI Modem (Phil Brutsche)
Re: tgz file ("Lawrence Yiu")
help setting up inews (dalin)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Sven Utcke)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Sven Utcke)
(calendar) plan <-> nscal data exchange? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU Paths ?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:07:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
>
>On a related note, I still done't have my PS/2 mouse working under
>DOSEMU. I keep getting the message "ERROR! Internal driver option not
>set, enable internal driver in /etc/dosemu.conf." Now, the relavent
>portions of my dosemu.conf that I have set are the following:
>
>$_mouse = "ps2"
>$_mouse_dev = "/dev/mouse"
>$_mouse_flags = "emuate3buttons"
>$_mouse_baud = (0)
>
>What is emumouse.exe talking about? Also, if I attempt to use Logitech's
>driver, it reports that it cannot find the mouse, even if I supply the
>PS2 port setting. Any ideas anyone?
Despite the overwhelming probability that you already have this, I will
ask: do you have /dev/mouse set up as a link to psaux? As in:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Sep 25 15:05 /dev/mouse -> psaux
Ok, good, I thought so. Don't know why you're having trouble then, my
Mouseman works just fine. I'm not loading the Logitech or any other
mouse driver in config.emu or autoexec.emu.
-frank
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:36:53 -0500
Chris there is a VCR that the average citizen can program. It gets the time from
the TV.
--
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quothe DogBert,"Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and platic are equally important. "
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter.vanHelden)
Subject: Re: problem with rm?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:28:50 GMT
There's a process running that has the file open. This is Unix unlink(2)
semantics.
Peter
Martin McGreal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have noticed more than once when I try to delete a relatively large
: file (80 megs or more), the space is not immediately recovered. In these
: situations rm will almost immediately exit, returning to the shell
: prompt, instead of giving a normal delay before returning the prompt
: (indicating that it's doing something). I have to reboot the machine
: before the changes show up on df. Anyone have any idea why?
: Thanks,
: Martin
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From: Kevin Currie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Upgrading Redhat
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:20:59 -0500
Is it possible to upgrade from Redhat Linux 5.1 to 5.2 without rebooting the
machine, similar to how Debian works? I know that Redhat doesn't have
anything like dselect, but is this possible using a bit of cleverness any
say something like autorpm? I basically want to avoid going though the
process of upgrading with the boot disks. It seems unnecessary. Can anyone
point me to some references that might help me out?
Thanks,
Kevin Currie
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:43:01 -0500
In an attempt to vent i would like to tell you all that STUPID people piss me off.
That is why i use linux because i gain comfort in the knowledge that no Stupid person
will turn on my system and infect it with there stupidly, and stupidity is highly
infectious.
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quothe DogBert, "Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and plastic are equally important. "
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:47:37 -0500
Fred Flatstone wrote:
> <SNIP>
> The biggest problem with Windows is shared by no other breed of OS.
> <SNIP>
Bill Gates??
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quothe DogBert, "Some say the computer industry is built on silicon.
I think foam and plastic are equally important. "
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jari Aalto+mail.emacs)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 19:08:29 +0200
Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ... I use two spaces after sentence-ending punctuation.
Which is some odd relict that somebody still seems to believe is needed...
jari
Tips for Writers and Designers ...
About the Author
Hi. I'm David Siegel, author of Web Wonk. I am a type
designer, typographer, writer, and web-site designer. I
received a Master's degree in Digital Typography from
Stanford University in 1986, where I studied under
Donald Knuth and Charles Bigelow. I spent a year at
Pixar, then I started working for myself, designing
typefaces like Tekton and Graphite, both of which are
available from Adobe Systems. I also have a series of
typefaces based on the lettering of Frank Lloyd Wright,
marketed by AGFA and Monotype corporations. I also
do web site design for companies. My company is called
Verso, located in Palo Alto and San Francisco.
"Two spaces aft the end of line"
http://www.dsiegel.com/tips
http://www.dsiegel.com/tips/wonk6/horizontal.html
...Putting two spaces between sentences is an old secretary's myth.
While it won't affect your web pages, it makes your e-mail and
word-processor documents harder to read. One of the first things
you learn in a good typography class is that a word space should be
about the width of the letter "i." The extra space breaks the
natural rhythm of the sentences. You don't do it in your
handwriting, we never do it in books and newspapers, why should it
be right for your word processor or your e-mail? It isn't. Even if
you are using a fixed-width font, the period itself has quite a bit
of white space, enough to distinguish it and the following word
space from a regular word space. More space makes the sentences
float apart, making life difficult for the reader, no matter what
your typing teacher taught you. Since we typographers are very
picky about such things, if a larger space were helpful, we would
use it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:31:46 GMT
> > Linux cannot win out over all, though, and this is where MS comes in.(It's
> > either MS or Apple, folks..or maybe OS/2, but OS/2 takes a little bit of
>
> Be, Acorn, Corel, Cygnus, IBM, Sun, HP, ...
>
isn't HP working with Intel on the Merced? Intel is nothing but Microsoft's
Illinois Gimp, and HP will soon join the beast known as Wintel.
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From: "Steve Kremer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.news.microsoft
Subject: Humor: "Your Opinion of MS?" Urinal Mat
Date: 23 Jan 1999 11:37:56 GMT
For perhaps a laugh....
The new "Your Opinion of Microsoft?" Plastic Urinal Mat. Get you desktop
wallpaper in all sizes from 640x480 to 1280x1024. Plus it's FREE!
Check it out at:
http://www.jokewallpaper.com
Have Fun,
Steve Kremer
JokeWallpaper.com
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From: Michael Carley<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:45:23 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> and a .signature? but, no, of all the rules I break, only capitalization
> really _gets_ to some people. this is all quite amusing.
Maybe because it's the only whose breaking causes problems?
--
``Permitt not your schollars to ramble abroad, especially lett them not
soe much as peepe into a tavern or tipleing house'' (Provost Loftus).
My return address has the user name reversed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Abate)
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:26:36 GMT
On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:59:39 GMT, aallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks Glen,
>
>I notice that many of the designs involve a network switch versus using a
>hub for communications speed. Do you know if this is required or not? How
>does a switch improve communications speed over a hub - is it because the
>switch is intelligent?
The advantage of a switch over a hub is that with a switch, any
pair of nodes my simultaneously communicate. With a hub, if two
nodes are communicating, they block the other nodes.
For any serious parallel computing, you definately want a switch.
Prices have dropped significantly in the last few years, and you
can now find 100 Mbps switches for around $100.
-jason
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Jason Abate [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ticam.utexas.edu/~abate
Texas Institute for Computational and Applied Mathematics
University of Texas at Austin, 2.400 Taylor Hall, Austin, TX 78712
Work: 512-471-6947 Home: 512-912-1012 Fax: 512-471-8694
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From: Ed Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Please help: "Permission Denied" with RH 5.2 and rsh
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:38:14 -0500
Greetings!
I've installed Red Hat 5.2 on several machines but cannot get
rsh to work. The master system is setup as an NIS slave, and I
can login and have my home directory mounted, etc. I don't have
NIS running on the slaves (they're on a private 10.x.x.x network
and I don't want to fiddle with NAT at the momemt) but I created
a duplicate of my NIS account on one of the slaves (with the
same UID and GIDs), chown'd the home-directory files and
created the appropriate .rhosts and /etc/hosts.equiv files.
No matter what though, I get "Permission denied" when I try
to rsh from the master to the slave. Is this something to
do with PAM?
Please help - Beowulf is waiting! :-)
Regards,
Ed
--
Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.
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From: "Ima Maroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Upgrading Redhat
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:52:00 GMT
One problem is the upgrade of the kernel. I think you have to reboot to
use the new kernel. If you just want to update other packages, just slip
in the new cd and browse the RedHat/RPMS directory using Glint.
--
Ima Maroon
Kevin Currie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> Is it possible to upgrade from Redhat Linux 5.1 to 5.2 without rebooting
the
> machine, similar to how Debian works? I know that Redhat doesn't have
> anything like dselect, but is this possible using a bit of cleverness any
> say something like autorpm? I basically want to avoid going though the
> process of upgrading with the boot disks. It seems unnecessary. Can
anyone
> point me to some references that might help me out?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin Currie
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter.vanHelden)
Subject: Re: Linux defrag?
Date: 22 Jan 1999 16:31:50 GMT
A particular reason why you need defrag, or is this just a WinDOS habbit?
ext2 itself takes measures to prevent fragmentation, so you're very unlikely
to need to defrag.
Peter
Brian Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Has anyone successfully defraged a linux partition using defrag 0.73
: which is available in rpm format.
: I continually get the error message - bad magic number in superblock.
: fsck finds no problems with the same partition.
: Any ideas please.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Phelps)
Subject: Re: How to print a man page?
Date: 24 Jan 1999 03:23:37 GMT
Rather than dealing with troff, tbl, eqn, possible uncompression, and
whatever else, just choose the right menu item in TkMan. In fact,
rather than wasting paper on something of which you'll only read a
small piece, which will soon be out of date anyway, as far as I'm
concerned TkMan makes man pages pleasant enough to read online. Same
goes for GNU Texinfo.
See http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~phelps/tcltk/
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 02:25:19 GMT
> As far as demand goes, demand comes from people being as stupid as you
> are. If every one was as smart as I am (IQ == 153) they'd be using
> Linux.
you want a cookie?
> Gee, if I were Harvard, I'd change my name. DOS 3.2 was easy to
> configure because there was NOTHING to configure. The shit they sell
> now is sold solely because DOS 3.2 wasn't half-bad and people got
> hooked. But as far as being a genious, my IQ is still higher than
> Gates. Maybe I should be named KING OF THE WORLD.
what is Bill Gates' IQ anyway? even if your IQ is higher than his, gates has
accomplished more. he's managed to rack up billions, while all you're capable
of is making foolish posts. allow me to present a formula:
applied intelligence = net worth / IQ
haha, eat that, sir KING OF THE WORLD.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelvin Leung)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: how to start programming in Linux
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:16:26 -0700
Hello,
I am not a real programmer. I had some experience in C back in MSDOS age
years ago. I would like to start writing some simulation software in Linux
envirnonment. Can anyone tell me where should I start it? Should I write
it in GNOME or KDE or both? I'm a Newbie and may be I am asking a dumb
question. Please tell me. Thanks.
Kelvin
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From: Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the company that makes a lunch box size box?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:24:32 -0600
I can think of two companies that make Linux-based computers that small:
* Corel's Netwinder (http://www.corelcomputer.com)
* Cobalt Micro's Qube (http://www.cobaltmicro.com)
On 23 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Some time in the last six months I saw the web page of a company that
> makes lunch box size IBM style peecees and sells them loaded with a free
> OS with a Linux kernel. These boxen are cheap, too. Now I cannot find
> the name of this company. I have already checked the lists of hardware
> vendors at www.linux.org .
>
> What is the name of this company? I need some machines from them for
> testing.
>
> onr
>
>
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Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft: "Where do you want to to today?"
Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Internal PCI Modem
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:18:18 -0600
On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Robin Aly wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm SuSE 6.0. I bought a new Aztech 56K Modem (PCI, Internal)
> I tried setserial with the irq of the pci-slot, but didn't work. Can anybody
> help me ?
To keep it short and sweet, it looks this is a WinModem - you'll have a
snowball's chance in hell of getting such beast working under Linux (or
anything else that's non-Windows, for that matter). My best advice would
be to try to exchange it for another unit - I've had good experience with
USRobotics 56K modems.
======================================================================
Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft: "Where do you want to to today?"
Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?"
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From: "Lawrence Yiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: tgz file
Date: 24 Jan 1999 03:28:54 GMT
file with "tgz" extention is files that created by the "tar" command, which
is a common form to compress files in a package for downloading. Something
like RPM, but lack of some advantages like dependencies checking.
to extract the "tgz" file, the syntax is:
tar xvfz <<.tgz file>>
where
x for extract
v for verbose
f for file to extract
z for unzip
e.g. tar xvfz Linux-doom.tgz
I suggested you first cd into the /tmp directory before issue the command
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g�J��D�D
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> What is a tgz file? And how do I uncompress it?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> ---
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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From: dalin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,local.linux
Subject: help setting up inews
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:17:49 -0700
i'm trying to setup inews only for our local network. the documentation
mainly talks about compiling but i thought it's pre-compiled with my
redhat 5.2 linux?
it shouldn't be too difficult because i just want to have users run tin
or retreive the newsgroup on our local network using netscape.
i don't need to have it trade messages over the internet.
any ideas or what to find an easy to use setup manual?
please reply by e-mail,
thanks,
darrin
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:11:09 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I respect your views, but the other people are right: Capitalizing
> > the words sentences begin with makes the whole text just a little
> > bit easier to read. Status quo got nothing to do with it.
>
> Yes it does. Case in point: in German, all nouns are capitalized, and
> lots of people consider that this helps readers to recognize nouns
> more easily. I seriously doubt, however, that German can be read
> faster than any other language. Did it ever even occur to you that
> you're missing something by nouns (except proper nouns) being
> lowercase?
>
> This goes to show that we find easy what we're used to.
Precisely. And "we" (well, certainly most of us) are used to
sentences that start with a capital letter. It's not for nothing that
virtually all written languages have this rule (well, this obviously
excludes languages without capital letters --- or without letters, for
that). It evolved over a long time and proved a good idea.
Sven
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 22 Jan 1999 18:14:58 +0100
Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> such simple processes as updating
> a part of a sentence from singular to plural or from third to second
> person depends on knowing a lot about the words. the extra context that
> needs to be established by the computer to deal with a stupid rule that
> destroys information is just too hard to write.
But you yourself said it could easily be automated. Why is goint from
the words. The extra => the words. the extra
any more difficult than vice-versa?
Sven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (calendar) plan <-> nscal data exchange?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:38:31 GMT
I run Thomas Driemeyer's Day Planner (http://wwww.bitrot.de), but would like
to switch to netscape's calendar program. (Prime reason: I suspect that
netscape's calendar program will evolve faster than Thomas' program,
especially insofar as Web integration and export formats are concerned.)
I would like to avoid having to type all my appointments by hand into
nscalendar. Has anyone figured out how to export "plan" appointment
information into netscape's calendar?
Sincerely,
/ivo welch
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