Linux-Misc Digest #881, Volume #20 Thu, 1 Jul 99 17:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Somethin Dumb I did. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
netscape ("Josef Demergis")
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Alex Lam)
Re: Cannot play system sounds!!!!!!! (Norbert Stoop)
Re: Navigator Fails. (Frank Riha)
X Server and RIVA TNT2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mpg123 audio cracking with buffer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HELP PLEASE: can't play CDs under Linux (U.V. Ravindra)
Re: How do I get more fonts for Linux? (Marc Mutz)
Re: Kernel v2.3.8 : fs/fat/file.c (Marc Mutz)
Re: Q: kernel 2.2.8: I've lost my mouse ! (Marc Mutz)
snip-snap,plop,plop,fizz,fizz[FreeBSD Man Pages] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
RH modem problem (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: FWD- The Anatomy of a Frontal Assault on Apache (Alex Lam)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Marcus Holmes)
Re: Gcc/Assembler Dumps Core (Scott Lanning)
Re: dir command at anonymous ftp login =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= show ("Art S.
Kagel")
Re: Running another OS under Linux ("R.K.Aa")
Re: To Many Distributions. (Alex Lam)
man pages for C++ classes and STL (Ilan Finci)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Somethin Dumb I did.
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:04:07 GMT
In article <66ce3.168260$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"jimbo jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spent 140.00 in canada to buy the beos bible bundle.
> My love for Linux is back full tilt boogy. For anyone iterested in Be
I will
> let you know up front it aint what it touts itself to be.
How would you know, you never got it installed? BTW, whats this got to
do with Redhat or Linux?
>
> Being a linux user I understand Hardware configs, according to be I
have
> 10000 percent compatible hardware...Bullshit
Well you got the bullshit part right anyway. In sys.op.be.misc you
posted that your system has ali 1521 logic chips and a mach64 based
video card. Neither of these are on the Be supported hardware list. If
you had checked this list, as Be recommends that you do, you would have
know this. Your system is more like 0% compatible, its a RFM issue.
> The "bible" is an 800 page infomercial that in my ntbho offers little
> substance and many flames at the expense of linux and win (win
> understandably)
Actually it is a very comprehensive book, I defy you to find a more
complete book for Linux or Win9x. What info where you not able to find?
Was it your problems installing? I believe the book refers you to the
support list on the web. Considering your problems with the BeOS support
list perhaps its a reading skills problem. What flames at the expense of
Linux? He does make digs at "other operating systems", but I think they
are aimed mainly at Windows and to a lesser degree Mac's OS. Over all
though I would agree that he goes overboard on the evangelism.
Sorry, to add to this off topic thread, but I read his post in the Be
group and know that his problems are of his own makeing, so I wanted to
straighten the record out.
Dan
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From: "Josef Demergis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:35:25 +0100
Hello everybody.
When I fire up Netscape 4.6 and try to access a site on the Net (with a live
connection) I get a message that home.netscape.com,home6.netscape.com,
internic .net servers were not found and that some variables in the
$Socks-NS environment may need changing. Could somebody possibly help me
with that?
Also will netscape messenger work straight off once I set up my providers
pop addresses etc or will it need further tweaking?
I have suse 6.1 2.2.5 kernel
Thanking in advance,
Josef
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:04:36 -0700
Andreas Amann wrote:
>
> Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ray wrote:
>
> >> The bottom line is that while Netscape is not as stable is it should be, it
> >> should NEVER lock up Linux and I've never seen it even take out X. If it
> >> does then there is something VERY wrong.
> >>
> > That's why I am trying, and want to find out why. Everything else has
> > been running beautifully. Now I've turned off java.
>
> Maybe it is not only about java.
>
> The problem of "freezing" arises in my case, when a Netscape
> dialog box pops up while the Bookmarks menu is open at the
> same time. To reproduce the behavior do the following:
>
> Start netscape-4.08
> change preferences into "warn me before accepting a cookie"
> and "Accept all cookies" in the "Advanced" Category
>
> Open a site, that wishes to set a cookie and takes some time to load,
> for example http://prola.aps.org/ should do.
>
> While the site is loading, single click the bookmarks folder to show
> the list of bookmarks. This list should still be visible after the
> left mouse button is released.
>
> Wait with the open bookmark list, until the dialog box "... do you
> wish to allow the cookie to be set" pops up.
>
> Click the "Accept" Button.
>
> Now the eventloop is almost locked. You cannot change the focus
> anymore. By pressing ESC you can make the dialog box disappear, but
> after that your possibilities are exhausted. The menu list is still
> open, and it does not close as it should when pressing ESC once
> more. Neither the mouse focus nor the desktop can be changed. Only
> alt-ctrl-f1 works (fortunately), and we can still kill the netscape
> process from another term.
>
Thanks for the tips.
Alex Lam.
> --
> Andreas Amann
> Institut f�r theoretische Physik
> TU Berlin
>
> Tel.: +49-30-314-27658
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:32:07 +0200
From: Norbert Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot play system sounds!!!!!!!
Mark Tranchant wrote:
>
> Make sure the KDE sound components are running - something like kdesound
> and maudio. I forget exactly what - I'm on a Windows box at work. The X
> startup should run the "startkde" script, which should start those
> background apps. Make sure both of these statements are true on your
> machine.
>
> Mark.
>
> SuSE wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have just installed SuSE 6.1 and found that it cannot play the
> > system sounds (that is, the sound that will heard when i open, close,
> > minimize a window... etc).
> >
> > I have already checked the "enable system sounds" in the "sound"
> > section of the KDE control center. I also found that those .wav files
> > can be played without any problem when i click them in the file manager.
> >
> > Can anyone give me a hand???
> >
> > Thankssssss
> >
> > Byron
Have a look at this URL:
http://www.suse.de/sdb/en/html/me_kde_kein_ton.html
(You have to edit the file /opt/kde/bin/startkde and remove the
#-characters
from the lines
# startifthere kaudioserver
# startifthere kwmsound
Be careful: kaudioserver produces system crashes or hangs in some
situations!
So it's at your own risk (although it works fine on my machine).)
StAd
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From: Frank Riha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Navigator Fails.
Date: 01 Jul 1999 14:39:35 -0400
"m&m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi fellows:
> Whenever I try to visit web pages with Java functions enabled, such as
> www.java.sun.com, Navigator quits without any warning. Is there a way to
> correct this problem?
> Thanks
> m&m
Have you tried disabling Java in the preferences?
Are you getting any messages from it? Run it from the command line,
or check the ~/.xsession-errors file. It could be a mismatched .jar
file. Sometimes if you have a CLASSPATH defined it can mess up the
Navigator JVM. Mine usually doen't die tho', just can't start java.
You can also add the java40.jar file in the netscape/java/classes
directory onto your classpath, but this could cause some problems with
standalone Java apps.
Some things to try, anyways.
fdr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: X Server and RIVA TNT2
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:41:42 GMT
Hi,
I was wondering has any got a RIVA TNT2 card to run with linux (
Red Hat 6.0) ?
Will the X server for 3dfx cards be sufficient ?
Many thanks,
Simon.
P.S If possible cc me on your reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mpg123 audio cracking with buffer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 1 Jul 1999 12:32:42 -0700
I am using .59r with a Sound Blaster Live.
Decoding without a buffer works fine (without other system activity).
Decoding with any buffer (-b) causes crackling output.
Anyone have simillar results?
Thanks!
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From: U.V. Ravindra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE: can't play CDs under Linux
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 19:36:25 GMT
In article <MPG.11e407673ad2e4a1989920@news>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet) wrote:
>
> If you plug headphones into the CD player's front panel, do you get
> sound then?
I don't know :-) My CD player doesn't have a headphone socket in
the front panel (or anywhere else). It's shocking, but that's
how it is.
My speakers are connected thru the sound card. The card I have is
an ENSONIQ PCI audio card. I hope it isn't one of the "unsupported"
cards. I looked in SuSE's compatibility list(s), but I don't
remember now (it's been a while) if this one is unsupported or not.
I think I'll check the list again...
Thanks for the help. Any more ideas as to what I can try?
> If so, maybe it's your mixer settings.
>
> --
> Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:25:19 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get more fonts for Linux?
http://www.gimp.org
Marc
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:24:21 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel v2.3.8 : fs/fat/file.c
Binesh Bannerjee wrote:
>
> Hi,
> in trying to compile Kernel v2.3.8, I got the following
> error:
> file.c:60: `generic_readpage' undeclared here (not in a function).
>
> Upon further investigation, and a comparison with kernel v2.2.10,
> I found that the definition for generic_readpage used to be in
> include/linux/fs.h, and was removed in the 2.3.8 kernel. I saw
> around the same neighborhood (line 864 in v2.2.10 and line 876
> v2.3.8) a line for block_read_full_page which takes the same args
> as generic_readpage used to... Is this what it should now be?
>
> Has anyone run into this problem and solved it? What the heck,
> I'm gonna try it. All I have to lose, is a few months of work!
> Hah! Danger is my middle name. Well, I'll post the results, but,
> if someone has any better info, please let me know! Thanks
>
> Binesh Bannerjee
Before delving into the kernel's innermost code, you should have taken a
look at www.kernelnotes.org or any one of the linux news sites. There
you would have learned that most FS's were broken from 2.3.6 onwards due
to massive changes in the buffer code.
This is nothing that could be trivially fixed and there are others
working on that, so don't do it - at least not on your own. If you know
what you are doing, you can present yourself as interested in it on the
linux-*fs* mailing lists.
Marc
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 18:09:29 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: kernel 2.2.8: I've lost my mouse !
Silviu Minut wrote:
>
> Are you sure about 2.2.9? I've been running it for a while now and (nok on
> wood) all is well. I haven't checked lately, but at some point it was
> considered the latest stable, wasn't it? I hope I don't have to downgrade to
> 2.2.7!
>
There are tons of people reporting fs crashes on 2.2.9 and 2.2.10 (2.2.8
anyway). Mostly they cannot be reproduced by the kernel hacker guild,
but it is not ruled out jet that the be all due to hw problems
(overclocking, bad mem, etc), see
http://www.kt.opensrc.org/latest.html
for more.
Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Monroy, Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: snip-snap,plop,plop,fizz,fizz[FreeBSD Man Pages]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 20:03:25 GMT
God, this is nice. A real editor.
Terry, please note your last line caught me off
gaurd. Not what I expected, but what I would expect
from you!! :-)
As such, it's inspired me to tag c.o.l.a.
Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't consider what you called a patch worthy of the name.
> >
> > I have not written a patch to date.
> > The early PatchKit should have been called
> > "The Greate Pumpking Packet Kit", but it missed it's calling. :-(
> >
> > As for the current patch system it seems to be faring
> > no better.
>
>
> Not to tempt you out of your self imposed seven day email celebacy,
> but...
>
Not at all, always happy to get a message from you. :-)
> The original patchkit was done the way it was done because Bill
> Jolitz did not expose a source repository of any kind.
>
You are correct.
> I realize that the strictures of the patchkit were onerous, but
> they derived from a human being (me) being the equivalent of
> a CVS merge.
>
I think you are being rather harsh on human(s) and too kind
to the (former) patch kit.
> The ordering dependencies only triggered on overlapping patches,
> but when they triggered, there was a single order-of-application
> mutex that triggered (gated through a human -- again, me) to
> ensure that the patches did not fail to apply.
>
I remember it all to well.
> Yes, I take full responsibility for the emergent properties of
> this system, starting with the fact that the serialization was
> such a bottleneck that people became uncomforatable enough with
> the choke-hold that they started a completely new repository
> using a real source management system. And Voi'la, we have
> NetBSD, the first 386BSD schism.
>
I should take some blame for that schism as well.
If you recall, at the time I advocated seperatizium(sp?).
Boy was that a mistake!
> Similarly, I believe the current CVS system, with the inability
> to run simultaneous views on the repository (what Linus Torvalds
> and Larry McVoy call "LOD"'s or "Lines Of Developement"), has
> similar emergent properties.
>
Okay, we agree some parts really suck.
> You can make fun of the patchkit, as Lynne Jolitz (who I respect,
> and whose obvious territoriality at the time is excusable under
> the circumsatnces of the time) did, and in a similar vein ("one
> third of the patches are good; one third of them are ineffective
> but harmless; one third of them are wrong" -- with the implied
> "I won't tell you which third is which"). However, without my
> effort, and the subsequent efforts of the people I foisted the
> job off onto (Nate Williams, Rod Grimes, Jordan, et al.), the
> world would be a much poorer place.
>
Agreed.
My humor in the patch kit was an attempt to distract
the motely lot from another round of, "Jesus, you really
are an asshole."
The last 20 or so messages in the thread only went
in that direction and refused to address the subject
of the thread. Note, I'm still tagging that thread
here, but only in a response to this message.
I've always appreciated your work, efforts and comments.
I don't always agree, sometimes I say, "gee that mind fart
isn't it.", but as you'll note personal verb bouts between
yourself and myself haven't taken place in years.
As for the patchkit itself, I expect it will one day
spawn a book or at the very least a chapter in someones
book. This, of course, noting it was a marvelous
adhoc, inventive approach that spawn other innovaction(sp?).
In the same breath you're likely to hear, "of which it
became a despised comial rendition of Keystone Cops
in software."
Mind you, I'm not wacking Nate, Rodney, Jordan, et al.
this is just the way things turned out.
Responding to the "Jolitz" themselves, I understood
their response and lack of silence (or lack at times),
but was upset when they refused to release the reigns(sp?).
One day, Bill and Lynn will understand they are not
good managers, politicians or leaders. They are
great software writers!
> Yes, it's obvious that there are problems that result from
> emergent properties of the current system. Those of us with
> sufficiently advanced mathematical tools, an understanding of
> games and complexity theory, and non-linear dynamics even have
> mathematical models that are predictive of the systems overall
> behaviour.
>
Eeck a mouse.
This means you think you know where the problem is, correct?
> It is one thing to call attention to the problem occasionally,
> to ensure that it is not forgotton; it is another entirely to
> pour salt in the wound.
>
In this case, it was medicine, that is not always
painless to take. (IMO)
> The problem before us is not to salt wounds, but to design a
> system such that it has the resulting emergent properties which
> we designate as desirable. This task is non-trivial in the
> extreme, to put it mildly.
>
No disagreement there.
> Unless you have concrete proposals, I believe that you have
> exceeded the threshold of "occasionally" for this particular
> thread.
>
WOW, that is good. You speak-a my language.
Where would you like to start?
I have many ideas.
Your call,
--et. al---
this baby is a rocking so don't bother knocking.
--
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I hate making mistakes.
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: RH modem problem
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:48:08 -0700
After connecting PPP using usernet but won't disconnect for some reason
and I would do like "ps | grep ppp"
460 1 S 0:00 sh /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ppp daemon
ifcfg-ppp1
467 1 S 0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd -detach lock modem crtscts
defaultroute mru 1
528 p1 R 0:00 grep ppp
then "kill -9 460" and "kill -9 467" but then it can't re-dial out
either via usernet nor Minicom saying /dev/modem locked.
How can I unlock the modem? Thanks... )-:
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FWD- The Anatomy of a Frontal Assault on Apache
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:59:43 -0700
Paul Anderson wrote:
>
> Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The MS solution to the Apache problem: Windows 2000 will have a
> >simple (lightweight?) web server - very easy to setup and maintain,
> >prominently sitting on the desktop. This will be "integrated" into the
> >operating system, just as Internet Explorer was in Win98.
> >
> Ha ha! That would be beautiful, truly beautiful. That would bring Win2k from
> being merely a slow, fat, epileptic elephant shot full of crack to being a
> slow, fat, epileptic elephant shot full of crack, attempting to waltz in the
> middle of an earthquake:) <ROFL>
Not to mention all the extra security holes will be opening up.
Alex Lam.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Holmes)
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 19:40:26 GMT
Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: How much different is Linux than Unix? Are the system commands basically
: the same? What are the major differences between the two? Please help
: clarify this for me. Thank you in advance.
Depending on what version of UNIX you are speaking of, you will find Linux to be very
similar to
other Unix flavors. The commands are basically the same, as you state, and the
differences minimal.
www.linux.org should put you in the right direction of finding more technical
differences if need
be.
Marcus
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Gcc/Assembler Dumps Core
Date: 1 Jul 1999 16:37:55 GMT
John Garrison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: c++ -I../include -I. -I../uae_cpu -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DENABLE_DGA=1
: -DENABLE_GTK=1 -DREGPARAM="__attribute__((regparm(3)))"
: -DX86_ASSEMBLY
: -D_REENTRANT -S -g -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include
: -I/usr/lib/glib/include -fomit-frame-pointer cpuemu.cpp -o cputmp.s
: obj/cpuopti <cputmp.s >cpufast.s || mv cputmp.s cpufast.s
: Corrupted assembly file!
: rm -f cputmp.s
:
: I am running Kernel 2.2.5 Glibc 2.1 on what was a RedHat 5.0
: distribution before all the upgrading. It is a 400mhz 98megs of
: ram AMD K-6 2 processor. (uh oh, can AMD compile Intel assembler?!)
I don't know anything about AMD, but it seems possible. Does it
work if you turn off debugging? Maybe the combo of optimization and
debug isn't handled right on AMD???? Also compile line defines
many specific macros. How old's gcc, etc.? Well, that's all I
could think of; sorry to not be much help.
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dir command at anonymous ftp login =?iso-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= show
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:48:50 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Walter wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> i want to set up anonymous ftp login to my linux box with SuSe 6.1.
> When i login as anonymous, i can transfer files, but the dir-command
> shows no directory or files, only "Port command successsful",
> "opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls" and "Transfer
> complete".
> I have created the ftp subdirectories after reading the manual pages
> for wu.ftpd and ftpd and put in modified group and passwd files in
> ~ftp/etc, also a ls command in ~ftp/bin.
> Do i have to make changes in "/etc/ftpaccess" or do i have to set
> pathes in certain files? I have read several FAQ�s but i have no idea,
> what�s going wrong.
> Perhaps this question was often posted, but i�m new with linux and
> i�m in this newsgroup for the first time.
> Perhaps anyone can help me?
Add anonymous, and or ftp, to /etc/ftpd.rest to have the ftpd treat the
anonymous login as restricted. Ftpd will chroot ~ftp making the home
directory seem like '/'. Then you create etc, bin, and pub
subdirectories in ~ftp. Make ~ftp and ~ftp/etc and ~ftp/bin not
writable by anyone. In bin place any commands the user will be allowed
to execute, like cd, ls, pwd, etc. To eliminate ls listings without
warning you can place a script named 'ls' in the bin which does nothing.
Art S. Kagel
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running another OS under Linux
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:42:28 +0200
Alan Lake wrote:
>
> I saw a software package that runs Windows (and possibly other Operating
> Systems) under Linux. Does anyone know the URL of anyone marketing such
> software? Thanx.
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
http://www.vmware.com
I've seen it in action - it works Very Well. Takes min. a 266 and some
ram but it's ...cewl. Runs whatever - NT/98/95. Commercial.
A network solution for remote control is VNC from Oracle Laboratories.
That one is free, Corba-based. Also handles MacOS.
A client/server type app.
K.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Many Distributions.
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:56:11 -0700
Jake_Paws wrote:
>
> I love linux. Who doesn't. But there is a few things I don't like. As listed
> in the subject. Just to many distributions. As a computer technician. I'm
> suspose to support the new software out. (Basicly Customer demand) Currently
> in demand is Windows 98 and Nt 4.0 to list a few.
>
> For linux everybody is talking RedHat. Basicly you say linux, they say
> Redhat. You say RedHat, they say linux. But wait! I prefer slackware.
> Doesn't this go against supporting new software. I would think so.
>
> Each distribution has likes and dislikes based on personal favorites. To
> list a few. Slackware is currently what the isp I'm using is running on. It
> also last known is used in a Apexx box for routing. Plus it looks alot like
> Unix. I also like pppsetup. So on and so forth.
>
> Software is another key feature. To much. If you know how to work dos and
> pkzip to list a few programs that use command lines. You should be able to
> use linux. However, each program for linux is different in the configuration
> file even if the program does the same thing. I currently do not support
> linux on file servers because of this. I might install one peice of software
> and somebody else says this is better. Funny though. It is the same way with
> windows products. Just don't think of it that much.
>
> I think linux before long will become another microsoft. Not in moloply but
> in graphic operation. They will take out what linux is good for. AKA Many
> options and confine it to what I consider a idiot operating system.
>
> Based on what I see now. I will probably be making the move to Redhat 6. But
> still not sure on what window desktop to use. Yet another topic to talk
> about.
>
> Thank You,
>
> Jake
>
> Comments welcome.
Linux will always give you the choice to GUI or not to GUI.
Even if you want GUI, you can roll your own GUI with WindowsMaker and
so on. But underneath the GUI. Everything is still the same.
Alex Lam.
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From: Ilan Finci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.answer
Subject: man pages for C++ classes and STL
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 15:37:36 +0000
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Hi,
Are there man pages for standard classes in C++ (like iostream) and the
STL classes?
I know there are such man pages on other unices (I used them on SGI),
and would really like to have it on Linux too.
Thanks in advance,
Ilan
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