Linux-Misc Digest #881, Volume #23 Sat, 18 Mar 00 08:13:03 EST
Contents:
IMAP 4.5 w/Maildir -> Can't Efficiently Handle Big Maildirs (>4096)? ("David E.
Weekly")
Re: compiling C++ programs with g++ (Andreas Kahari)
Re: 403 Forbidden Access (Andreas Kahari)
Re: lenix sofeware (Andreas Kahari)
Re: icq for sunos (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Bus error (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Help - can't install gcc (Steve)
2 hard disk setup ("Ian Storey")
Re: Netscape does not recognize the ppp connection (Lee Mickelson)
telnetd dropping connections from certain hosts ("Andy Hill")
Re: telnetd dropping connections from certain hosts ("Andy Hill")
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! ("Tim Haynes")
Re: Window manager hell (Marc D. Williams)
Re: spreadsheet to heavy (Marc D. Williams)
Re: Help - can't install gcc ("A Slater")
Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Can MySQL on Linux take this? (Jasper Veltman)
Help needed. Trying to use a WIN98 as gateway of a Linux in a LAN. ("Reverendo")
Re: SiS6326 and XFree86 4.0 (Juan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20L=F3pez?= Mellado)
Re: What are frame errors? (Ian MacLure)
Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch! (Kenny McCormack)
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From: "David E. Weekly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IMAP 4.5 w/Maildir -> Can't Efficiently Handle Big Maildirs (>4096)?
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 01:26:16 -0800
I'm running a Linux box as my mail server running qmail and a patched
version of the IMAP 4.5 server that supports Maildirs. I have a lot of mail:
my Maildir has 5086 messages in it to be precise. Recently (i.e., in the
last 500 messages or so) retreiving mail has become *painfully* slow.
Looking at "top," I find that imapd is choking the CPU, taking 97% of the
CPU just to open a mail message. Huh? Wasn't a Maildir supposed to solve
this? Or is this a fundamental filesysem problem? What might be going on? (I
have plenty of memory and imapd is only using 2Mb -- it's not a swapping
issue.)
Respectfully Submitted,
-david weekly
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compiling C++ programs with g++
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:22:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Roland Josefek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone direct me to a website that gives step by step instructions
for
> the use of g++ to compile programs in C++?
>
> --
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>
If you have a properly installed 'g++' you may try giving the command
'info g++' on the command line. Otherwise, try taking a look at the GNU
site at <URL:http://www.gnu.org/>. The GCC home page is at
<URL:http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc.html>.
/A
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 403 Forbidden Access
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:25:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just recently registered a domain name with Register. And im using
space
> on a web hosting service called WebSorcery.Net. When you enter in my
sites
> domain name it comes up with the following error
>
> Forbidden
>
> You don't have permission to access / on this server.
>
> The domain name is directed to my IP, but for some reason it will not
allow
> access to my Index file. Is this an error on my part of how my
permissions
> are set? Or something else.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Nathan
>
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>
The directory that holds your file 'index.html' must be world executable
and readable. The file itself must be world readable.
/A
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lenix sofeware
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:27:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ron MIles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to try it but,I do'nt know if it would be worth the
> money .How can I be sure? I'm not sattisfied with windows that much I
do
> know
>
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>
Please read the info about GNU/Linux at <URL:http://www.linux.com/> and
<URL:http://www.linux.org/> and the various sites pointed to from these
two sites.
GNU/Linux may, or may not, be something for you.
/A
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: icq for sunos
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:28:41 GMT
In article <8auo3e$g1u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there an ica/micq for SunOs? thanks.
>
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>
This is a GNU/Linux forum.
Try the java client.
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From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bus error
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:31:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> While trying to run netscape communicator I get the output "Bus error"
on an xTerm. I have tried uninstalling the deb package and installing a
different version but the same error occurs. This all seemed to happen
after I tried to install the latest Realplayer Beta.
>
> Any help is very appreciated.
>
> Scott.
>
> stodas at mail dot cth dot com dot au
>
> Kernel 2.2.14
> Communicator 4.7
> Debian Potatoe Based.
>
Are you surprised? You're using a beta version of RealPlayer on an
GNU/Linux system *based* on the unstable Debian GNU/Linux system...
Try removing RealPlayer.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - can't install gcc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Mar 2000 09:43:46 GMT
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 02:22:51 -0000, A Slater wrote:
>I cannot find gcc on my system. I guess mandrake do not provide it in
>release.
>If I have no exisiting C compiler how can I install a C compiler I need C
>compiler so that I can install Java servlets.
You can d/l it from almost any site that hosts a linux distribution, GCC is
a C compiler it will also compile C++ and a few other languages aswell I
think.
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Reply-To: "Ian Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Ian Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 hard disk setup
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:22:17 -0000
Hi I am new to linux but want to now put win98 on hard disk 1 and Red Hat
6.0 on hard disk 2. Where do I install lilo during the red hat setup?. Is it
on disk 1 or 2 Iwant it so if I type dos windows installs or if I dont type
anything linux will install by itself.
Thanks
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From: Lee Mickelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape does not recognize the ppp connection
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:30:18 GMT
Thanx. Worked.
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From: "Andy Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: telnetd dropping connections from certain hosts
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:33:50 -0000
Hi All
Telnetd on our Slackware box has suddenly stopped dropping connections from
certain hosts, as soon as they try to connect.
Other hosts from the same network are OK.
The problem seemed to occur following an accidental reboot.
Any ideas?
TIA
Andy Hill
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From: "Andy Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnetd dropping connections from certain hosts
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:43:07 -0000
Sorry
Confusing typo in original:
Should read
Hi All
Telnetd on our Slackware box has suddenly STARTED dropping connections from
certain hosts, as soon as they try to connect.
Other hosts from the same network are OK.
The problem seemed to occur following an accidental reboot.
Any ideas?
TIA
Andy Hill
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From: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: 17 Mar 2000 21:25:02 +0000
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Really? Memory and resource hog?
>
> I'm using XEmacs to write and post this reply, I also use it read my mail
> (local spool and also IMAP from an MS Exchange buffer), I am running a
> Python interpreter under it, *and* I have at least 15 file buffers and
> tag tables open, and its been running a few days.
>
> PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU COMMAND
> 687 exushml 1 23 0 17M 15M sleep 13:36 1.18% xemacs-20.4
> 643 exushml 1 34 0 23M 15M sleep 13:36 0.64% Xsun
> 4771 exushml 1 34 0 6584K 5080K sleep 0:01 0.03% kscd.bin
> 4893 exushml 1 34 0 4784K 2496K sleep 0:00 0.02% vim
> 731 exushml 1 4 0 40M 27M sleep 12:55 0.00% netscape
>
> At 15M resident (17M total), XEmacs is simply not a bad deal compared to
> vim with 2.5M resident (4.7M total) doing nothing at all right now. If I
> could just find a good replacement for netscape I'd be set! That is a
> real memory hog, not xemacs.
>
> There was a time when I used to apologize for Emacs' size (say four years
> ago), but not anymore. I find that a sad reflection on current software
> practices.
<nods>. I'm not convinced that
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 551248 Feb 10 16:45 /usr/bin/vim*
is all required... :|
> Don't get me wrong, I love vi/vim (easily the best text editor I've ever
> used), but I find the complaint that EscMetaAltCtrlShift is bloated
> increasingly lame.
Put like that, yeah. OTOH how long does it take you to sudo emacs
/etc/hosts, or sudo vim /etc/hosts ?
And more to the point, would you trust something with the programmability
of (X)emacs running as root? How do emacs fans do things like the above,
which are quite often nippy little tasks?
~Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: Window manager hell
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:08:37 GMT
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:51:40 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Motif! The only way to go. THE defacto standard in X managers; all the
>> big boys use it. Even Sun uses it, after ousting its own baby-Openwindows.
>
>If you're willing to pay the price for it...
>
>I know I'm not. They can stick mwm up their **** as far as I'm concerned.
>:)
You can get mwm with LessTif y'know (free implementation of Motif 1.2).
http://www.lesstif.org/ I think.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: spreadsheet to heavy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:08:37 GMT
On 14 Mar 2000 22:35:31 +0100, Johannes Nix
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer) writes:
>
>> Hi,
>> Last year I have been moving to Linux, but I am still looking for a good
>> spreadsheet. Since I have a 486, choices are limited: KOffice, StarOffice,
>> Gnumeric and Applixware are too heavy. Searching freshmeat and linuxapps I
>
>Why not use gnumeric and save memory by using icewm (or wm2) instead
>of gnome/KDE ?
>
There's also Xess(lite) and Siag. Xess handles Excel okay, never really
tested Siag much though (new version compiling now).
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From: "A Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help - can't install gcc
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:19:53 -0000
yes I'v done that, but installation reqiures CC environment variable, I
have no-where to point this to, since I do nor appear
to hav any C compiler on my machine,
has linux installation gone wrong ie. should there be some kind of C
compiler installed initially ?
am I looking for the wrong thing ?
do I need to download c-compiler binaries instead, from somewhere?
or is system generally confused, the install is not able to determine HOST
or TARGET, I have noticed this when trying to install other s/ware
mandrake linux does not seem to be one of the standard linux systems ?
help is VERY much appreciated
Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 02:22:51 -0000, A Slater wrote:
> >I cannot find gcc on my system. I guess mandrake do not provide it in
> >release.
> >If I have no exisiting C compiler how can I install a C compiler I need
C
> >compiler so that I can install Java servlets.
>
> You can d/l it from almost any site that hosts a linux distribution, GCC
is
> a C compiler it will also compile C++ and a few other languages aswell I
> think.
>
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> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:06:37 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:18:45 -0800...
...and John Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> >
>
> > Around the corner lives a hacker with a terminal
> > And on his Web page is a PNG of RMS
> > He likes to keep his Sun workstation clean
> > It's a clean machine...
>
> Are there more lyrics to go with this snippet??
The more often I look at it, the more your question lures me into
finishing this idea and rewriting the entire song on a hackish theme.
mawa
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From: Jasper Veltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can MySQL on Linux take this?
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:42:03 +0100
On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 18:19:28 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jasper writes:
>> If I'm making the correct calculation,...
>You aren't. 40000*4000+40000*12000=640000000 according to bc.
>> ...that's about 640 GB...
>You're three orders of magnitude high.
You're right, make that MB's instead of GB's. Still, I wouldn't use
MySQL as a serious database for a highly stressed e-commerce site. No
transaction logs, rollback, loadbalancing etc.
Jasper
jasper {at} webminds {dot} nl
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From: "Reverendo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help needed. Trying to use a WIN98 as gateway of a Linux in a LAN.
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:59:22 GMT
Hi out there.
I have this setting.
Two PCs in a TCP/IP Ethernet LAN.
One of them a Pentium 90 with Linux and #IP 192.168.100.100.
The second with Win98, CProxy, an ADSL netcard that is permanent
conected to internet with a permanent #IP. And of course an ethernet netcard
with #IP 192.168.100.101.
I try to use the Win98 as a gateway for the Linux or use the ping
command with internet #IPs and the DNS of my ISP but I haven't managed to
work it out.
Can anyone help me?
Reverendo. From Spain.
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From: Juan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9=20L=F3pez?= Mellado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SiS6326 and XFree86 4.0
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:09:24 GMT
Configure your card normally, and then modify the X configuration
file (XF64Config). In your Device section try:
Option "no_bitblt"
If still doesn't work, try:
Option "noaccel"
The first one works in my SiS card, with XFree86 3.3.5.
Good luck,
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 10:37:53 -0800
From: Ian MacLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What are frame errors?
Frederic Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sleddog) in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> [snip]
> >What are the 'frame' errors? Is it something I should be concerned
> >about, and if so how do I correct it?
> >
> >Thanks,
>
> Frame errors, as far as I know, are errors due to the packets sent not
> being the same as the packets sent. In other (clearer, I hope) words,
> the packets sent to you are being corrupted somehow and it doesn't
> surprise me since the conduit is a 'phone line.
FYI only ( < Stevens UNIX Network Programming, Pg 181 )
Packets are Network Layer artifacts.
Frames are Data Link Layer artifacts.
Bits are Physical Layer artifacts.
The DL layer breaks packets down into frames and checksums each frame.
If the checksum doesn't match when a frame arrives at its destination
an error may be reported such as the one you got. Other things happen
but you weren't asking about that really.
Tanenbaum explains it in his "Computer Networks" book ( Pg 179 )
As far as the advice given, its like the previous responder says,
beat on the telco.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi? vi or vim? Deathmatch!
Date: 18 Mar 2000 06:36:42 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>On a PIII with 64MB it's still too cumbersome to start up regularly for
>editing mail and news or quickly su-ing to root to change some script or
>config. OK if you don't mind sticking to Gnus for the former and
>learning different muscle memory to use pico or joe for the latter. You
>could use jed for the little admin jobs I suppose, a good compromise as
>long as you don't need to do much in the way of search & replace.
Emacs is simply the MS of Unix - the line between OS and app is totally
blurred. And everything is fine as long as you do everything their way.
Which is fine, ... for most people.
But not for hackers/Chinese restaurant types - who like to pick and choose
their tools.
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