Linux-Misc Digest #888, Volume #20 Fri, 2 Jul 99 02:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: first/second/third world (Jim Richardson)
Re: mingetty restore (Bill Unruh)
Re: Tell me I'm wrong... (Bill Unruh)
Re: LILO hangs on LI (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Compiling Problem! (Jaker Wong)
Re: Can I use Linux as a server to a Windows based calendar/scheduling (Nicholas E
Couchman)
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? (Bill Unruh)
Re: glint on redhat 6.0 (Silviu Minut)
chatmud (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
Re: Korn SHell basic problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New Geek Discussion List (Tim Serpas)
Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0 (Silviu Minut)
Re: Hauppauge WinTV-Theater works? (Silviu Minut)
Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux (Silviu Minut)
Re: Howto Erase CD-RW media? (Chris Burkey)
Re: Compiling Problem! (Silviu Minut)
Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0 (Alan Fried)
pppd: "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" ("H. Michael Smith, Jr.")
locate - Segmentation fault (lh)
Re: problems mounting /dev/fd0 (Silviu Minut)
Re: bet you cannot solve this! (well probably will) (Silviu Minut)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:14:01 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 30 Jun 1999 05:40:38 GMT,
Richard Kulisz, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>You have your choice of evil or stupidity, but that the right supports
>>>militarism, exploitation (in the name of freedom to contract, of course),
>>>might makes right, and a whole slew of morally and ethically abhorrent
>>>beliefs is objective fact.
>>
>>Hardly objective fact, you name a nebulous group ("the right") and apply
>>to them the same kind of propaganda used by the Inquisition against
>>Jews and Pagans...
>
>That is a *very* interesting allegation. Could you expand on it more?
>I don't know that much about the Inquisition.
Demonization, followed by re-education, or execution...
>
>>"Some people are born Albert Einstein"?
>
>We know of at least one instance where that occured so clearly
>my statement is correct. :-) And Einstein /was/ a socialist.
touche, :)
'course, Einstein also refused to believe in quantum theory, that's where the
quote about god not playing dice with the universe comes from.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: mingetty restore
Date: 1 Jul 1999 23:14:46 GMT
In <7lffte$jem$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Krempe) writes:
>In article <7k8ktn$m4u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) wrote:
>>In article <7k8ea0$rte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>Christoph Krempe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I've killed all my /sbin/mingetty-processes so that I have no more
>>>console-logins. How can I restore them without reboot?
>>How did you manage to do that? Normally you can kill these processes
>>as fast as you like and new ones reappear like weed.
>kill -9 PID !
Nope. That kills the currently running process. init then discovers that
it is dead and starts another verion of that process. If you do this
rapidly and a number of times, init will assume taht something is wrong,
and not restart the process again for 5 min or so, but then it tries
again. So you should not be able to permanantly kill mingetty, unless of
course you remove the mingetty entries from /etc/inittab as well.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Tell me I'm wrong...
Date: 1 Jul 1999 23:18:53 GMT
In <7lg94r$jqv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I downloaded a copy of SYSLINUX (linux on a floppy) and ran it of my
]floppy drive...
]After loging in as root (*no password*) I had complete access to /root
]after mounting my RH6.0 partition! It seems to have read/write/xecute
]access to all dirs. I even managed to reboot the machine
]using '/mnt/linux/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now' rather than using the
]reboot file that comes with SYSLINUX. Has anyone tried this? Someone
]please tell me I got it all wrong.
Sorry, why should you expect anything else. YOu are logged on as root.
root is root, whether it came from a floppy or not (actually how would
the computer know where the OS came from).
So, yes, if you have access to the machine, then the machine is very
insecure.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Subject: Re: LILO hangs on LI
Date: 01 Jul 1999 21:05:54 -0400
> I am loading linux on my second hard drive, with Win 98 on my first
> and primary drive. When i switch the BIOS to my second drive, LILO
> stops and hangs after LI.
If I understand correctly, you are saying that your BIOS has a setting
that allows you to play around with the logical ordering of the IDE
drives at the boot configuration screen. During the install Windows
is on a partition of /dev/hda and you put the Linux root on a
partition of /dev/hdb. You reboot the machine, the BIOS waves a magic
wand, and the Windows and Linux drives switch names.
If the above is incorrect, nothing below will be applicable.
What you are trying to do will cause confusion with no end. If you
want the drive with the Linux root on it to be a partition of /dev/hda
when Linux is running, then it should also be on /dev/hda during the
install. On the other hand, unlike Windows, Linux is perfectly happy
to use a partition of /dev/hdb as its root, so why not install on
/dev/hdb and run from /dev/hdb. Note, however, that during boot your
machine will still look at the MBR of /dev/hda or the floppy disk, so
you will need to install LILO on /dev/hda (with options to boot either
Windows or Linux from the appropriate partitions) or install LILO on a
floppy and use this to boot Linux.
Collin
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 11:33:25 +0800
From: Jaker Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling Problem!
I would like to know aftering compiling the kernel, it gives me the
following error messages:
I use the following command to make the kernel:
make dep
make clean
make zlilo or
make boot
After doing this, the error messages are the following:
tools/build.c:25: stdio.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:26: string.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:27: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:28: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:29: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:30: sys/sysmacros.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:31: unistd.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:32: fcntl.h: No such file or directory
tools/build.c:35: errno.h: No such file or directory
However, I have used the following command which I learn from
Kernel-HOWTO.txt:
cd /usr/include
rm -rf asm linux scsi
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi
But it stills not work, what's problem with my kernel.
Please help me.
My system is Redhat 5.2, kernel 2.0.36, 48M Ram 850 harddisk
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From: Nicholas E Couchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can I use Linux as a server to a Windows based calendar/scheduling
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:21:12 GMT
You might be suprised with X-Windows just how far you could go teaching computer
illiterate people. All you need to do is teach them how to logon to a Linux
console (ie username & password) and then edit all the scripts to start the X
window system automatically (if you are using the bash shell, find the
.bash_profile files in each users home directory and add the command "startx" to
the file in the specified place. The other option is to switch the runlevel on
the Linux computer from 3 to 5. This will give each user a X Windows login
prompt and automatically take them to X, plus you still have your first six
consoles free because X runs on the 7th.
As far as a mail server, I would go with POP3. You can either use the RPM one
on the RH6 CD or go download and compile another free one called QPopper from
www.linuxberg.com. I haven't tried the one on the RH6 CD, but I currently use
QPopper at home and plan on setting it up as a mail server at my school.
--Nick
Steve Hiner wrote:
> I am now in charge of the network at a Chuch. One of the first goals they
> set is email for everyone. It wasn't difficult at all for me to convince
> them to let me build a Linux email server (Red Hat 6.0). I haven't done it
> before but it should be educational.
>
> I have a question though. I would like to give them the ability to have a
> group calendar and group schedule. There is no way I could convince them to
> switch the desktops over to Linux (I don't think I would want to train 30
> computer illiterate people on Linux). What I am interested in is some
> server type software that would interface with some off-the-shelf Windows
> software (like Outlook or an equivalent). They have suggested MS Exchange
> but I really don't want them to have to spend the money though Exchange
> would handle email, calendaring and scheduling (plus it will be fun for me
> to learn how to do it with Linux). Is there any such server for Linux? I
> am by no means a Linux guru, I have only just started dealing with Linux
> networking.
>
> Any advice, pointers or URLs are appreciated.
>
> Steve Hiner
> developer AT isiaz DOT com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Date: 1 Jul 1999 23:22:03 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Go to www.linuxmall.com. They have CDs for $1.89 plus shipping
>Or do what I did. Download the ISO image, and burn a CD.
Which costs much more. Even the blank CDRom is worth about $1, and your
CDRom writer will wear out faster , and your time is probably worth at
least minimum wage, in which case the above has cost far far more than
$2.
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glint on redhat 6.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:04:44 -0400
I just tried XRPM with RH6.0. Not bad!! Only if I install a package and try
to remove it right away, the RMOVE button doesn't work. Did I miss something
obvious, or is this a bug?
Bernie Borenstein wrote:
> In article <7l88e2$cog$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > In my experience so far, I am more interested in uninstalled
> > packages than in already installed ones. Unless I am missing
> > something, all GnoneRPM will do is give you a file list of the
> > packages on the CDROM. To me, that is a very poor design decision.
> > Glint was a bit nicer. But Glint isn't on RH 6.0. So, I loaded Glint
> > from my RedHat 4.1 CDs onto my RedHat 6.0 system. But it will
> > not run, complaining it cannot import "rpm". Anyone got any ideas
> > as to how to correct the problem?
> >
> >
> Try XRPM, my favorite package manager. I don't know if it's been updated
> for RH6 (since I haven't had time to upgrade), but it's worth a try.
> Get it at :
>
> http://www.gmsys.com/xrpm.html
>
> BB
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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: chatmud
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 23:14:04 -0500
Hi!
I am using a chat server called "Mark Morley's chatMUD" which is an old
program. I cannot find the source anywhere. If you know where to find the
source of this chatMUD, or source of any program doing the same thing (a
chat server, connect from a telnet / MUD client, have rooms, have emote),
would you please let me know?
Thank you.
ps.: I tried MiniHaven - thank you for suggesting - it is feel less
friendly. I might hack it though, if there is no other alternative.
Thanks.
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
_____ _____ _____ _____
/____ /____/ /____/ /____ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Korn SHell basic problems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Jul 1999 00:50:23 -0500
On 1999-07-01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>3) With readonly I can make a readonly variable but, how can I erase
>this atributte??? What command is used to erase it and can modify
>after these variable (or unset it)????
Why make a variable readonly if you want to change it?
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Serpas)
Crossposted-To:
alt.geek,alt.religion.kibology,rec.humor.oracle.d,rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: New Geek Discussion List
Date: 2 Jul 1999 04:30:41 GMT
Robert A. Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Greetings.
>
>I have created a new mailing list called GEEK-L.
Hayden! So what do you think of 3rd edition?
> A) Absolutely no personal attacks will be tolerated
[...]
> G) Basicly, don't be an ass.
H) Must submit Geek Code for review before posting.
BTW, fascinating Web page. :)
Tim Serpas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Geek Code v3.1: GS d-(--) s: a- C++$ UB P L E----
W++ N++ o K++ w+(---) !O M- !V PS++ PE+(-) Y+ PGP-
t+ 5 X R+ tv--- b++ DI+ D++ G+ e++ h+> r* y+
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:53:05 -0400
Ionut Georgescu wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ralph Blach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > is there a real audio player for Redhat 6.0 yet?
>
> The existent RealAudio 5.0 should fit. I mean, it's still a Linux box.
>
Still Linux, but different kernel and different glibc. Almost a different
Linux.
>
> >
> > Chip
> >
>
> Johnny
>
> --
> ***************
> * Ionut Georgescu
> * http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/
> * ICQ: 38973105
> * "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix you
> * can do anything the computer is able to do."
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Hauppauge WinTV-Theater works?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:40:36 -0400
You need an expert answer. Post this question in the video4linux mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
The developers of the bttv drivers are there and they'll know.
Andy wrote:
> oh yeah, me again. forgot one thing: does the radio work?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PS: oh yeah, another thing. yes I am using outlook express
> on a linux newsgruop..... ^_^
>
> Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm looking to get a tv tuner to replace my gimpy tv. I've been looking
> and
> > found that the Hauppauge cards work. However I read that some are not
> fully
> > functional yet (something to do with the 879's i2c or such). Just
> > wondering if the WinTv Theater model works fine under linux (including
> > remote). That remote would be handy :). also on a more general nature,
> > how well does full screen mode work either in XFree86 or in framebuffer
> mode
> > when it's in high resolution (much higher than NTSC).
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:28:41 -0400
It's not G2, when you actually download it, it's still 5.0.
Mircea wrote:
> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
>
> MST
>
> Kareem Dana wrote:
> >
> > I've heard that Real Player G2 was available for linux, but i have yet
> > to find it. I went to proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html and
> > clicked Linux ELF as the OS and it says only real player 5.0 is
> > available for your platform. Now my question, however, Is there or is
> > there not a real player G2 for linux?
> >
> > Thank you
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:59:47 -0400
From: Chris Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Howto Erase CD-RW media?
I use cdrecord -v -speed=2 dev=0,0,0 blank=all
Use a cdrecord -scanbus to make sure the dev is 0
I also have been able to master my own CD's and I can re-mount them
under Linux. Its been great for Linux but my cd's do not work under
Windows NT.
None of the CD's I create under Linux work on NT. I tried all kinds of
things such as mkisofs with Juliet, rock ridge, etc... I tried xcdroast
and used the nice gui to select Windows NT/95... I even compiled
mkhybrid and created an image for NT.
No matter what file system is on the CD it is ignored by my NT 40x
CD-ROM drive. It works great on my Linux 40x CD-ROM drive under Mandrake
6.0 with a new Kernel.
SOMEONE HELP!! I have spent four weeks on this and countless CD-R's.
p.s. I found that if I use a CD-RW I don't waste as many CD's :)
regards,
-chris
Bunbi wrote:
>
> I have an Acer CD-RW-6206A and am using xcdroast-0.96+cdrecord-1.6. I am
> able to burn copy, as well as master the CD. However, I would like to find
> out how to erase a non-empty CD-RW media before I can re-use the CD-RW. I
> tried to use cdrecord to blank the non-empty CD-RW to no avail, i.e.:
>
> cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom blank=track
>
> If you know how to erase/blank a non-empty CD-RW on your Linux, please
> kindly help and respond to this post through e-mail. Thanks.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Problem!
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:58:10 -0400
> Install glibc-devel. It's on the RH cd under /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 05:04:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelvin Leung) wrote:
>Yes, there is a alpha version of G2 from real.com, I forget the URL,
>anyone knows? It's in www.real.com.
>
>Kelvin
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ralph Blach
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a real audio player for Redhat 6.0 yet?
>>
>> Chip
I've gone there on a number of occasions and after
filling out the forms, the only thing that is availabe
is 5.0.
Can you give the details how you got it?
Thanx in advance
Alan
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From: "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd: "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:01:44 -0400
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Hash: SHA1
LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests (see <snip> from
/var/log/messages @ bottom of post)
Searching the HOWTO's, FAQ's, and the Net at large, I find this error
message, but not a clear solution.
I have tried various lines in my /etc/ppp/options.... i.e.:
lcp-max-configure 50
- -am
- -all
... and more ... to no avail... Any pointers will be greatly
appreciated.
BTW...
running Caldera OpenLinux 2.2
Thanks.
//Michael
from /var/log/messages :
.
.
.
Jul 1 21:01:51 firewall pppd[931]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
Jul 1 21:01:52 firewall chat[932]: abort on (BUSY)
Jul 1 21:01:52 firewall chat[932]: send (ATDT7703008900^M)
Jul 1 21:01:53 firewall chat[932]: expect (CONNECT)
Jul 1 21:02:13 firewall chat[932]: ATDT7703008900^M^M
Jul 1 21:02:13 firewall chat[932]: CONNECT
Jul 1 21:02:13 firewall chat[932]: -- got it
Jul 1 21:02:13 firewall chat[932]: send (^M)
Jul 1 21:02:13 firewall pppd[931]: Serial connection established.
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_ioctl: set dbg flags to 70000
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 70000
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall pppd[931]: Using interface ppp0
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall pppd[931]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xasyncmap
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap
ffffffff
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 70000
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 5dc
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_tty_ioctl: set rcv asyncmap
ffffffff
Jul 1 21:02:14 firewall kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to 70000
Jul 1 21:03:57 firewall kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 closing.
Jul 1 21:03:57 firewall pppd[931]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Jul 1 21:03:57 firewall pppd[931]: Modem hangup
Jul 1 21:03:57 firewall pppd[931]: Connection terminated.
Jul 1 21:03:58 firewall pppd[931]: Exit.
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From: lh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: locate - Segmentation fault
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 11:49:23 +0800
Hi, could anyone tell me how to solve this problem. When I do a locate
<filename> it give me "Segmentation fault".
Please let me know how to solve this problem.
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: problems mounting /dev/fd0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:05:56 -0400
You're not trying to mount the boot floppy, or an unformatted floppy, are you? That
doesn't have a file system on it.
Nor are you trying to mount an audio cd, are you? That's not iso9660.
Also, if the floppy was formatted for dos, you should use
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
where /dev/cdrom points to the cdrom drive (/dev/hdb or /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd).
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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bet you cannot solve this! (well probably will)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 01:10:00 -0400
setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq 9
Tom wrote:
> I have a Courier V.everything that is upgraded to V.90 and am using RH6.0.
> The main reason I do not use Linux is because it will not work with my
> modem.. The modem is set to use COM 3 and IRQ 9 in Win98 and there is no
> problems, (hyperteminal works fine). Why does every time I start Minicom
> that the INIT string is displayed very, very slowly? It takes about 30
> seconds to display ATZ! It does dial but as I said it is extremely slow.
> Kppp says the modem is not responding or is busy on every port I try. I
> went to 3com's sight and read about some 1 page instruction on how to get it
> to work in "unix" but all it said was which DIP switches to put down (which
> I did) I bet no one on these news groups can give a decent answer because
> no one has for a year.... good luck..
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