Linux-Misc Digest #909, Volume #20                Sat, 3 Jul 99 23:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  TV overlay using Philips SAA7111 ([Corfiot])
  Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Bernhard Ernst)
  Re: time of day clock drift (L J Bayuk)
  Re: moving an entire installation to a different partition (Robert Komar)
  Re: How do you install a printer? (Geoff Allsup)
  Re: Linux Partition Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1 (Marc Mutz)
  Re: Help Compiling a SMP Kernel w/o 32MB MEM limit (Marc Mutz)
  Re: (Extended) Acer Filesystem (EAFS/AFS) support for Linux (Marc Mutz)
  icq server in linux?? (Chu_Yik_Chi)
  Re: Kernel 2.3.9 (Marc Mutz)
  Re: ATAPI CDROM errors (L J Bayuk)
  Re: suse mailing list (Michael Perry)
  Netscape crashing with ATI video (Rod Smith)
  I am sick of NT and my CD-ROM (Chris Burkey)
  Mounting a FAT floppy (Bernhard Ernst)
  Re: Help Compiling a SMP Kernel w/o 32MB MEM limit (Chris Burkey)
  Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux (coffee)
  Re: CD Creation Software (Chris Burkey)
  Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux (coffee)
  Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux (coffee)

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From: [Corfiot] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: TV overlay using Philips SAA7111
Date: 4 Jul 1999 01:30:49 GMT

ASUS 3DP2000 (3D Explorer) with Phillips SAA7111AH2 video chip without a
tuner.

Anyone have any suggestions to get the TV input overlay to work on linux?
I really want to remove win98 from my machine :))

Maybe bttv or video for linux 2 would work with properly assigned ports?
Please reply by email as well as post since my access to newsgroups is
scarce.

techfacts:
http://www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/SAA7111AH

Thanks!!

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From: Bernhard Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: 4 Jul 1999 01:30:47 GMT

> I don't know the nature of the breach ... I was just told that only the
> Linux boxes were hacked (other Unix's and NT were left alone). My Linux
> box wasn't hacked though.

Maybe the hacker just knew security holes for Linux, not NT.  Or he/she
tried to make a valid connection to NT through a less important Linux
machine, to get less attention.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: time of day clock drift
Date: 4 Jul 1999 01:42:43 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>red hat 5.2
>kernel 2.0.36
>
>My clock drifts pretty bad.  I found a file: /etc/adjtime which
>contains the one line:  0.0 0 0.0
>
>man adjtime yields nothing.  I am assuming this file can be configured
>to correct for clock drift.
>
>Is this correct?  and if so, what do the three values mean/do ?

Check out man 8 clock. The adjtime file is used by clock -a and is
explained in that manual page. By the way, you are probably
better off using xntpd if possible to keep your clock accurate.

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From: Robert Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: moving an entire installation to a different partition
Date: 3 Jul 1999 16:18:31 GMT

Ryan T. Rhea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I have a linux server which is entirely installed on one 450 MB
: partition.  I have a need to move the entire install to a second larger
: partition on the same drive.  There is a separate linux swap partition
: that will not change.

: Has anyone tried this?  I examined the boot logs, and I don't see any
: references to partitions other than the obvious ones to the root file
: system and the swap space - I will change that in fstab and lilo.conf.
: Did I miss anything? I did see a reference to kswapd - I assume this is
: a daemon for kernel swap space, I can find no info on it.

: Also, can I just use the 'cp' command, with perhaps '-dpr' for the
: options (no link Deference, Preserve ownerships and permissions,
: Recursive) to copy all the files from one partition to the other?  Or
: will this miss some files such as cp itself or any other open files?

Hi,
I think that this should work.  Make sure that you run lilo after you
edit the lilo.conf file and copy the filesystem.  You could edit the
lilo.conf file to point to both partitions, so that you could boot
from the old one if the new one had problems.  I'd also keep a boot
floppy on hand in case it doesn't just work.  When copying, you
don't want to copy /proc onto the new partition.  I think that
using the `-x' switch with cp should keep it from doing that.

Cheers,
Rob Komar

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: Re: How do you install a printer?
Date: 21 Jun 1999 10:45:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:49:26 -0400, Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Charles Koerner wrote:
>> 
>> I changed to my daughters HP Deskjet 820Cxi for Windows Professional
>> Series" printer.  My HP 4l went south, but it was working.  Now I cant
>> get the DeskJet to print, it is not listed in the "printtool".
>> Need basic help.
>
I believe the 820 is a Windows printer, which is not supported by the usual
series of drivers.  Look for ppa support for this type of printer - check 
the Printing HOWTO, for example

geoff
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Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution   Woods Hole, MA, USA
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Subject: Re: Linux Partition Question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 03 Jul 1999 18:25:12 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> New Linux user question: 
> 
> If I partition a 1GB hard disk to have MS-DOS and Linux partitions is
> the Linux partition usable for MS-DOS and Windows applications or
> should I have a small partition for Linux to avoid wasting space?

In short, no.  Long....yes, with....

There might be a win95 plugin thing to make use of the ext2 filesystem.  Also
you can use the UMSDOS filesystem for linux and just install it on your DOS
partition...no need for an extra partition then.  UMSDOS sits on top of
MSDOS (FAT16) and writes files in each directory which contain the *real* name
of the files...then save them under MSDOS compatable gibberish names like
FILE.EXT;001 and such.

The UMSDOS solution is not the best IMHO because its better to let Linux live
on an ext2 fs.  It will function though.  You could put in a small partition
and then mount win95 UMSDOS and use its space that way if your really
worried about it.

Actually...I find I am more worried about win95 wasting Linux space then
the other way around :P

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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:38:39 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need opinions- how's S.u.S.E. 6.1

Warren Bell wrote:
> 
> I've been running RedHat 5.2 and am wondering how SuSE Linux is.  It
> seems to have a lot of the same features and RPM format.  Is it just as
> good as RH?  Better?
> 
> I just want to make sure SuSE is a good OS and works well.  It seems to
> be packed with features and apps for about half the price of RH 6.0.
> 
If you just need a running system - go for it.
If you want to know what's going on - don't. At least not with SuSE.
They have some of the most crappy work-arounds for problems solved
otherwise. My favorite example is with cron: There is this problem that
cron jobs don't get executed because the computer is not on the whole
time. This was known before and someone has 'invented' anacron for that
(maybe that was even before cron?), which tries to execute the jobs in
intervals that match the given defaults as closly as possible. So what
do you think SuSE does? Integrate it with their distro? Even replace
cron with it? Nope. They write a shell script that maintains it's own
'last run' list and gets executed every 15 minutes from cron. Thats a
whole lot of crap.
The other problem I experienced multiple times with SuSE is updating the
system. Do not expect this to be done smoothly. No, expect it to make
your installation unusable. Or re-install it entirely.

Just my personal experience... But of course the distro with the most
features wins - that be SuSE - regardless of what the stability and
maintainability looks like. It's like that under windows, so why should
it be different under linux?

To answer your question: No, don't buy SuSE. Buy Debian if you want to
have a clean system.

Marc

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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:50:13 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Compiling a SMP Kernel w/o 32MB MEM limit

Leonid Fedotov wrote:
> 
> I can actually allocate about 500Mb for Oracle, without any recompiling.
> RH6.0, 2.2.5 kernel
> 
He was talking about SHM, ie. shared memory, man.
Check out www.kernelnotes.org for a list of patches. I remember seeing
on on the kernel mailing list that allowed to lift that limit.

Marc

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Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                    http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics

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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:42:39 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (Extended) Acer Filesystem (EAFS/AFS) support for Linux

Mark Tomich wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I might be able to mount the Extended Acer
> Filesystem under Linux?  I only need read-only support.  I'm guessing
> that I'll need a kernel patch, but I don't know where to find it.
> 
Check www.kernelnotes.org for a list of {,un}official patches.

Marc

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University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chu_Yik_Chi)
Subject: icq server in linux??
Date: 3 Jul 1999 15:37:50 GMT

Hi all, i know that there are some unoffical icq server which also using
port 4000, does anyone how to setup this kind of server?? can it run in
linux?? if yes, where can i get it??
thanks alot!
Joseph

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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 17:46:14 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.3.9

Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote:
> 
> Well can anybody make the kernel 2.3.9 sucessfully with Vfat support? I find
> that I can't make the kernel if I select vfat and fat support~
> ,,,
> Again, and for the last time I say that:
> If you want to use devel series, just do it.
> If you don't know what to do with a broken kernel, use the stable one.
> Use 2.2.10.
I'll _strongly_ second that. If you want to use a newer kernel, do it.
But check www.kernelnotes.org before to see if there are any gotchas. If
you do not want to bother with that, at least do it when you have
problems compiling or getting to run.

Marc

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM errors
Date: 4 Jul 1999 01:40:32 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>When I do "fdisk -l", with no CDROM in the drive I get a 
>long series of kernel timeout messages.
>With a CDROM in the drive it works immediately and fine.
>
>Anyone know of a patch, hdparm, or bootparam for this problem?
>
>I called fdisk with strace, and discovered that 
>the culprit is a call to 'fopen(/dev/hdb)'
>probably from drivers/ide.c.
>
>This is a probem since other code can also trigger 
>the hang and these are unattended network boxes.

I'm not sure I would consider this a problem, since it is documented:
fdisk -l tries to read a partition table from each of: hda, hdb, sda,
sdb, etc.   No disk in your CD-ROM (hdb), and it will time out.
What do you mean "other code can also trigget the hang"? Why
should other code be trying to read directly from device
files like /dev/hdb?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: suse mailing list
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 02:07:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 01:23:12 -0400, 
John W Mislan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>subscribe suse-linux-e
>end
>-- 
>
>- John W Mislan<->Crystal River Fl.34428<->ICQ#18664779<-> -
>SuSE_Linux_6_0 2_2_5 gcc_egcs-2.91.60 
>http://www.geocities.com:80/ResearchTriangle/Node/4644/index.html
>
>
Need to send it email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any old subject and in the
message body:

subscribe suse-linux-e

Take care.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Netscape crashing with ATI video
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:16:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I've recently put together a new system (called Nessus), and am having
problems with Netscape on it.  Netscape crashes on some, but not all, web
sites.  One that gives me problems is:

http://www.tnt.turner.com/crusade/

When it crashes, Netscape leaves behind the message "Bus error" on the
xterm from which it was launched.  The crash typically occurs just after
Netscape announces that it's starting Java.  I've tried Netscapes 4.07,
4.60, and 4.61, all with the same effect.  I'm using Mandrake 6.0 on
Nessus, but I also have the problem when I use Nessus as an X terminal
and run Netscape itself on another system (called Speaker), running Red
Hat 6.0.  Further, the problem occurs if I boot Nessus into Windows and
use the X-Win32 demo X server to run Netscape on Speaker, but not if I
use VNC from Nessus running Windows to run Netscape on Speaker.  I have
no problems accessing this site using Netscape directly in Windows or
MacOS on another system, nor using Netscape from Speaker when using
Speaker's own display (driven by a Matrox Millennium).  Nessus uses a
recent low-end ATI board (the vendor claims it's an Xpert98 board;
Windows identifies it as an ATI 3D Rage LT Pro AGP 2X; and I'm using the
Mach 64 X server in Linux).  I'm using XFree86 3.3.3.1 on both systems
(the RPMs from the Mandrake and Red Hat distributions).  I run all
systems at 1024x768, 16-bit.

Given the symptoms, I suspect a bug in the interaction between Netscape
(or possibly Java) and the ATI XFree86 server, but I'm not positive of
this (the crash under X-Win32 suggests otherwise, or at least that the
bug turns up in other servers, too).

If anybody has any ideas about this, I'd appreciate hearing them.  Thanks.

-- 
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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:33:29 -0400
From: Chris Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: I am sick of NT and my CD-ROM

Thanks for reply. I thought nobody cared... ;(

E:\ is not accessible. The Device is not ready.
Retry   Cancel


I press retry a million times... Never helps.

The funny thing is that I have Easy CD Disk creator software that works
with NT. But create a CD under Linux with the same hardware... no NT
support.

If someone has created an NT readable disk what command line did you
use?

mkisofs -r ...
cdrecord -v ...


Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:59:47 -0400 Chris Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >None of the CD's I create under Linux work on NT.
> 
> What error is NT giving you when you insert the new CD-ROM and try to
> open it in the Explorer?
> --
> Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
>         -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: Bernhard Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Mounting a FAT floppy
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 02:30:47 GMT

I tried mounting a floppy disk that is FAT (FAT12 if I am correct)
Using mount -t fvat /mnt/floppy /floppy doesn't work, I know this works for
FAT partitions.  I tried the same using /dev/fd0 instead of /mnt/floppy
Any ideas, because in this case using a floppy is my best solution, E-mail
costs too much (but it works), and the other Windoze98 machine doesn't have
a network card.

Bernhard Ernst

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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 23:01:00 -0400
From: Chris Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Compiling a SMP Kernel w/o 32MB MEM limit

Do you need help compiling a kernel?

Did you do a:

make install

at the end? 

Also dont forget to copy a backup of the old working kernel. Email me is
you need more details.

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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:54:21 -0400

Mircea wrote:
> 
> coffee wrote:
> >
> > coffee wrote:
> > >
> > > Mircea wrote:
> >
> > > > http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
> >
> > Dang, This link shows the 5.0 player.
> 
> Hmmm...they probably pulled it off, I was able to download it from that
> page a couple of weeks ago...it works, too, but requires a specific
> version of libstdc++-2.8.0. Maybe they're trying to fix it?
> 
> MST

I just cant resist the urg to rant about their website. Man, Why cant
they get it right. I submitted an email to the webmaster of the site
explaining that its very hard to find linux material there. Havent heard
back of course. 

It just amazes me that they would come out with a unix version and then
make it so hard to find. 

I think that the G2 version works with RH6.0 and the 5.0 version is ment
for anything below that. Had the same problem that you are - Rh comes
with the 8 version of libst++ and you cannot upgrade because alot
depends on that version. 
Thats why I upgraded to 6.0.  


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Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:45:17 -0400
From: Chris Burkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD Creation Software

> took much longer to get the CD-RW drive working, mind you.)  I

What kind of issues did the RW drive give you? Did the CD-W work ok? I
thought CD-W and CD-WR are about the same thing programming wise.

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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 22:01:38 -0400

Silviu Minut wrote:
> 
> And, surprisingly, works too!
> 


<lol> Try hitting up the redhat version and check out the file name you
get on the download. 


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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 21:56:35 -0400

Mircea wrote:
> 
> I've just tried it again, and you can download it from the link I
> posted. Maybe you're trying the .rpm? I wouldn't know about that one,
> but the "G2 player for Linux 2.0/2.2" link is OK.
> 
> MST
Gotta be the rpm version then. Never did figure out how to configure the
programs. I know, I have to get on the ball here <grin>. 

Thing is, The redhat option is bad. They only offer the 5.0 version in
the redhat version.

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