Linux-Misc Digest #909, Volume #26 Wed, 24 Jan 01 17:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop (Urs Mueller)
How big is a directory ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
EZCam USB (Johnny Kitchens)
? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help deleting bogus files (Jim)
Re: How big is a directory (Grant Edwards)
Re: Mutiple Boot (Rod Smith)
Re: How big is a directory (Joshua Beard)
Aqua GTK theme (Joshua Beard)
Re: How big is a directory (GYULAI Mihaly)
Re: Help deleting bogus files ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: How big is a directory ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Konqueror speed (Deltones)
Determine Process Owner ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RPM fatal error ("Aubrey Kilpatrick")
Re: Booting with no console
Re: Help deleting bogus files (Steve Ackman)
Re: Need a Browser (GYULAI Mihaly)
Re: Booting with no console
[2.4.0] Yamaha OPL3-SAx No Sound when built into Kernel ("Trenton Adams")
Re: cable setup help (Hugh Lawson)
Re: Linux not free anymore? ("blah")
Re: How to duplicate RH Boot Diskette (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
Setting up SuSE 6.1 on a laptop ("John B")
Re: ? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so (Robert Lynch)
Re: Determine Process Owner ("Ian Jones")
Re: Sound Blaster PRO slow sound (Martin Daur)
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From: Urs Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Journalled Filesystem on a laptop
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:02:34 +0100
Rod Smith wrote:
Hi Rod
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Has anybody tried the various journaled filesystems to overcome
> > problems like this?
>
> I've been using ReiserFS on the /home partition of one system for a
> while. I hear that XFS is also now officially in beta, but JFS was still
> alpha, the last I heard, and not really useable. My impression of
> ReiserFS is that it's useful and may be adequate for your needs,
> particularly when a random crash or power outage is likely. I've not
> experienced filesystem corruption on the handful of cases when this has
> happened to me. ReiserFS is, however, still a bit rough around the
> edges. A few programs just don't work with it, like Win4Lin 1.0 (but the
> newly-released 2.0 does work with ReiserFS) and (IIRC) VMware. The last
> I checked, NFS exports from ReiserFS were a problem, but I haven't
> checked on that detail lately.
Didn't understand "(IIRC) VMware"... Does that mean, that you got problems
running VMware on a ReiserFS?
cu/Urs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How big is a directory
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:06:13 GMT
I know that this may be a basic question but what's the best way to
determine the size of a directory based from the command line?
Jeff
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From: Johnny Kitchens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EZCam USB
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:20:00 -0500
On the EinME machine I use Netmeeting with my camera. Is there a program in
Linux that would allow Netmeeting type interface?
Johnny
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:16:53 GMT
Hello,
We are running RH 6.2. I cannot seem to get a minimum password length
setting to work after disabling the pam cracklib.so. I disabled
cracklib.so by removing the password
required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 line
in /etc/pam.d/passwd and taking out the use_authtok from the password
required pam_pwdb.so line in the same file.
The only place I know to check for this setting is in
the /etc/login.defs file. I have the setting for PASS_MIN_LEN in
login.defs set to 5, but when I log in as a non-root user I can still
set a password of any length even less than 5. When cracklib.so is
enabled in pam.d/passwd the minimum length is enforced via cracklib(I
think that is right and the default is 6 char). The server must be
ignoring login.defs for some reason(unless that value isn't used in the
manner I think).
Does anybody have any suggestions to accomplish "weak" passwords with a
minimum length?. Is there somewhere else the minimum password length
is set? Hopefully these aren't newbie questions. If they are, I
apologize and humbly ask for your kindness(and answers). If more info
is required please reply to this message.
By the way, we will not have shell accounts for end users on the
system, therefore we don't mind having the "weaker" passwords. If our
end users want a personal "weak" password, then it is their choice to
set one.
Thanks in advance for your response!
Neil Johnson
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help deleting bogus files
Date: 24 Jan 2001 20:37:42 GMT
Hello,
I am having some problems deleting two files. I found them in my
lost+found directory. I cannot `rm -f' them. I cannot change their
ownership or permissions. (Yes I was root.) I created a dummy user with
a matching uid, but I still couldn't do anything to the files. Does any
one have any suggestions?
>ls -l
total 1774175342
b--sr-S-wx 1 24933 26670 108, 99 Jun 27 2025 #72361
br-xr-Srwx 1 8306 29548 45, 45 Aug 16 2027 #72362
Thank you,
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: How big is a directory
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:50:58 GMT
In article <94ncjc$nhj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I know that this may be a basic question but what's the best way to
>determine the size of a directory based from the command line?
ls -ld [directory-name]
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! HOW could a GLASS
at be YELLING??
visi.com
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Mutiple Boot
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:50:57 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <94n2vj$tqv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi guys, can I just find out whether u can have a mutiple boot on a single
> hdd?
> i hope to make my pc bootable from linux, win98 and winnt..is it possible?
Yes, it's possible. There are several HOWTOs covering multi-boot
configurations of Linux with various other OSs. My book, _The Multi-Boot
Configuration Handbook_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/) goes into
more detail, particularly for systems with several OSs. There are a lot
of different details in such configurations -- partitioning,
installation, filesystem choices, file sharing, etc. If you have
specific questions, post them or check relevant FAQs, HOWTOs, books,
etc.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Joshua Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How big is a directory
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:00:01 -0600
You can use the 'du' command. For example:
du -hs <directory>
Would tell you the summarized "human-readable" size of the directory.
Do 'man du' or 'du --help' to see more.
Hope that helps.
Josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know that this may be a basic question but what's the best way to
> determine the size of a directory based from the command line?
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Joshua Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aqua GTK theme
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:01:17 -0600
I've noticed that www.themes.org removed the Aqua themes due to apple's
request (complaints). Does anyone know anywhere else for me to get the
GTK Aqua theme? Or can someone send it to me?
Josh.
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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How big is a directory
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:51:11 GMT
In article <94ncjc$nhj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ... what's the best way to determine the size of a directory based
> from the command line?
type: du
It gives the size in kB.
--
GYULAI Mihaly
http://gyulai.freeyellow.com
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help deleting bogus files
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:05:59 GMT
Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> lost+found directory. I cannot `rm -f' them. I cannot change their
> ownership or permissions. (Yes I was root.) I created a dummy user with
> a matching uid, but I still couldn't do anything to the files. Does any
> one have any suggestions?
Mend your file system using debugfs.
>>ls -l
> total 1774175342
> b--sr-S-wx 1 24933 26670 108, 99 Jun 27 2025 #72361
> br-xr-Srwx 1 8306 29548 45, 45 Aug 16 2027 #72362
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How big is a directory
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:05:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know that this may be a basic question but what's the best way to
> determine the size of a directory based from the command line?
What do you mean?
man du. man ls.
Peter
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From: Deltones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Konqueror speed
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:58:58 GMT
>First, scrap Mandrake, it is a piece of junk, from experience(at least
>Mandrake 7.1), and it does not upgrade well or easily. Grab the
>sources off KDE's web site and edit the configure files in all the
>directories replacing the "-O2" flags with "-O3" flags.
Justin,
So far, the only thing I've ever compiled on my linux box is the Kernel.
Did so by following recommended instructions. I'm interested in trying
to compile KDE myself, but I'm wondering about those configure
files. What are the names of these files you're talking about where I
can replace those flags?
TIA
Deltones
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Determine Process Owner
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:13:43 -0600
Is there a reliable way to determine (in a C program) whether the owner
of the current process is a logged-in user or otherwise (e.g., Apache)?
I tried a number of things, such as getlogin(), but none of them were
false-proof. (getlogin() gives you the current login user, or null if
the program is called by Apache. However, if the program is run as
part of a pipe, getlogin() gives null no matter what.)
Thanks in advance!
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From: "Aubrey Kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM fatal error
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:22:29 -0600
Hi,
I am running a stock Red Hat 7.0 (with updates). I have had no problems
using the X-windows or CLI "up2date" tool until the last update two days
ago. Since then I have been getting the following error message after
"getting headers" step finishes:
"The was a fatal RPM error. The message was:
Error reading header from package"
I would apopreciate any help in fixing this problem so I can use the
"up2date" tool again.
Thanks,
aak
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:13:40 -0500
> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
> keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
> hda: WDC WD307AA-00BAA0, ATA DISK drive
>
> How could I misinterpret this?
>
> Allen
The messages you get are not "ERROR" messages .
They are "WARNING" messages , indicative of some problem, but one that does
NOT impede the proper functioning of a Linux kernel .
That is where you are misinterpretting it .
There are other messages in my logs about the pci ide controller not being
100% native and such. But since my hard disk spins, the kernel file is
loaded, and more importantly, the init scripts are executed after kernel
boot, I have no cause to worry.
So don't sweat the small stuff, set your bios to halt on NO errors, and
proceed .
joseph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Subject: Re: Help deleting bogus files
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:16:24 -0500
On 24 Jan 2001 20:37:42 GMT, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
> I am having some problems deleting two files. I found them in my
>lost+found directory. I cannot `rm -f' them. I cannot change their
>ownership or permissions. (Yes I was root.) I created a dummy user with
>a matching uid, but I still couldn't do anything to the files. Does any
>one have any suggestions?
>
>>ls -l
>total 1774175342
>b--sr-S-wx 1 24933 26670 108, 99 Jun 27 2025 #72361
>br-xr-Srwx 1 8306 29548 45, 45 Aug 16 2027 #72362
'rm \#7236?'
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:07:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jon Rook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good browser.
If you insist to a graphical browser, try Mozilla. It's faster then
Netscape (4.x, 6.x) and more stable. It has same options as Netscape
and some additions. I use the 0.7 version.
You may try BrowseX. It's fast, small, graphical, depends on the Tcl
package, but lacks of JavaScript capability.
Personally I would recommend Lynx. It runs on console, so it's
ultra-fast, small, but lacks of JavaScript capability.
URLs:
http://www.mozilla.org/
http://browsex.org/
http://lynx.browser.org/
Best wishes!
--
GYULAI Mihaly
http://gyulai.freeyellow.com
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Booting with no console
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:19:03 -0500
start X on a linux box.
open a terminal
telnet into the remote box
make sure you have an XF86Config.<hostname> in your user's root directory
"cd ~/" will take you there).
Make sure the XFree86 libs are on the remote machine.
make sure your setup ( where the X Server is running ) accepts connections
from that particular computer.
Execute the app.
This is all probably covered in the XServer-HOWTO or something, to a much
greater detail.
Chris Elvidge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Note the folllwing with X :
> >
> > the X "Server" is the part that accesses the video card, and draws
images
> > in it's video memory. it's the video driver.
> > The applications connect to an XServer , and request screen space to put
> > their data on.
> >
> > At home I can connect to my samba server (using another linux computer )
and
> > run an xwindows program. All the program'sprocessing will be done on the
> > samba server, but the result ( the image to be shown ) will be processed
and
> > rendered on my computer, where I am actually sitting. Just like telnet,
only
> > with graphics.
> >
>
> Time for a newbie question. How do you do this?
> TIA
> Chris
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From: "Trenton Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [2.4.0] Yamaha OPL3-SAx No Sound when built into Kernel
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:28:11 -0500
When building support for this card into the kernel, I am getting no sound.
I have sent the correct kernel commands on startup. But the card just seems
to not initialize (you know the click/crack sound you get when it starts
up). According to dmesg, the systems is recognizing the card without
error. Any ideas on how to get it to work? Or possibly some websites with
ideas?
-Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Subject: Re: cable setup help
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:27:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NoClue wrote:
>Ok using Mandrake 7.1, nic Diamond HomePNA
>
>Ok using dmesg my eth0 is setting up fine...I get the correct
>information.
>
>But it wont detect my dhcp server for a IP. I hit route -n and I get
>nothing but setting for my localdomain the local IP ect, but nothing
>for my @home connect.
Did you start your dhcp client? On mandrake that is probably the program
'pump'?
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "blah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux not free anymore?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:44:23 +1100
>
> Most of us spell it 'harbor', but garglemonster evidently doesn't believe
> in following the crowd in his use of the language.
>
Most of us???? Since when did the USA comprise most of the world's English
speaking population?
*Most* people spell it 'harbour', so I guess he was, after all, following
the crowd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
Subject: Re: How to duplicate RH Boot Diskette
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:51:32 GMT
In addition to the MS-Dog files, the boot disk contains a special
program in block 0 of the diskette. This block cannot be written
by user mode programs. Additionally, there is an ext2fs portion of stuff
on the RHBoot diskette containing the kernel and minimal drivers.
The best way to duplicate the diskette is to make an image with
dd as explained in another answer to this thread.
--greg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> shaped electrons to say:
>I just upgraded my Redhat 6.0 to 6.2 with one redhat Boot Diskette and
>one CD. Now I want to make an exact image copy of the supplied Boot
>Diskette. First I thought it was the same as the boot disk I created
>when I was in the middle of upgrading (which is the same as running
>mkbootdisk after upgrade). I was wrong based on ls -l /mnt/floppy. So I
>tried this:
>
>put in the redhat Boot Diskette
>mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>for i in /mnt/floppy/*; do
>cp $i /anemptydir
>done
>umount /dev/fd0
>put in a blank floppy (probably formatted by NT format utility before)
>mformat a:
>mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>for i in /anemptydir/*; do
>cp $i /mnt/floppy
>done
>
>Unfornately, even though the disk thus prepared looks exactly the same
>as the Boot Diskette based on ls -l, when I put it in the floppy drive
>and reboot, the bootstrap ignores it as if nothing was in the floppy
>drive (not even say you didn't put a system disk in there). But if I
>put the Boot Diskette in, it goes to the screen for you to choose
>install or upgrade.
>
>How can I duplicate that Boot Diskette? Thanks. (Why I still need it is
>another story)
>
>Yong Huang
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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--
Gregory Woodbury
SysAdmin group OAO NIEHS ITSSC
work phone:919 361 5444 x404
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting up SuSE 6.1 on a laptop
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:46:06 -0700
Hi all,
Trying to set up my compaq 1200XL laptop (800 x 600)(Trident Cyberblade i7
card) to run SuSE 6.1 for my work area. I got it installed but I'm trying to
setup the X-Server and I'm pulling what little hair I have left out! Someone
at one time sent a XF86Config file and it had all the info I needed but I
have lost the disk :-(
Also the Cyberblade is not and option on the selections for a card so at
this point any help will be greatly apprecited.
TIA
John B
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ? Set Min passwd len after disabling pam cracklib.so
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:00:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello,
> We are running RH 6.2. I cannot seem to get a minimum password length
> setting to work after disabling the pam cracklib.so. I disabled
> cracklib.so by removing the password
> required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 line
> in /etc/pam.d/passwd and taking out the use_authtok from the password
> required pam_pwdb.so line in the same file.
>
> The only place I know to check for this setting is in
> the /etc/login.defs file. I have the setting for PASS_MIN_LEN in
> login.defs set to 5, but when I log in as a non-root user I can still
> set a password of any length even less than 5. When cracklib.so is
> enabled in pam.d/passwd the minimum length is enforced via cracklib(I
> think that is right and the default is 6 char). The server must be
> ignoring login.defs for some reason(unless that value isn't used in the
> manner I think).
>
> Does anybody have any suggestions to accomplish "weak" passwords with a
> minimum length?. Is there somewhere else the minimum password length
> is set? Hopefully these aren't newbie questions. If they are, I
> apologize and humbly ask for your kindness(and answers). If more info
> is required please reply to this message.
>
> By the way, we will not have shell accounts for end users on the
> system, therefore we don't mind having the "weaker" passwords. If our
> end users want a personal "weak" password, then it is their choice to
> set one.
>
> Thanks in advance for your response!
> Neil Johnson
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
I helped someone set up something like this, for the same sorts
of reasons you give. This was with a previous version of PAM and
cracklib so this info may be outdated.
The problem one has that setting the minimum password length to 6
chars:
password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
minlen=7
does not disable rather ferocious password checking (which is
good!) But this can be gotten around by replacing cracklib's
dictionary with just a few words. For example, say the file
"/tmp/words" had just a few words:
roses
apple
and
You then (used to) run:
/usr/sbin/create-cracklib-dict /tmp/words
to create cracklib_dict.hwm/.pwd/.pwi
This utility seems to have disappeared from recent cracklib
packages (.rpm's, I'm on RH) However, I'm sure it would not be
much of a hunt to find it or something very much like it.
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ian Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Determine Process Owner
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:54:49 -0800
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Is there a reliable way to determine (in a C program) whether the
> owner of the current process is a logged-in user or otherwise
> (e.g., Apache)?
>
> I tried a number of things, such as getlogin(), but none of them
> were false-proof. (getlogin() gives you the current login user, or
> null if the program is called by Apache. However, if the program
> is run as part of a pipe, getlogin() gives null no matter what.)
Read man UTMP(5), GETUTENT(3).
It isn't a perfect solution for wat you want, but it sounds like what
you are looking for.
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From: Martin Daur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PRO slow sound
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:58:10 +0100
Ken wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Migue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a Sound Blaster PRO card ISA , it's correctly configured but the
> > sound is slow.
>
> If you are playing 16 bit data samples this could be the problem
> as the SB pro is only plays 8 bit data.
How can I set aRts (KDE) to 8bit?
cu Martin
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