Linux-Misc Digest #909, Volume #23               Mon, 20 Mar 00 18:13:03 EST

Contents:
  PPP on Lombard PowerBook no longer working ("Paul J. Lucas")
  Linux vs MS; point-n-click ("David Lewis")
  Re: Do you hate vi? (Florian Anwander)
  Re: RH Linux on a Labtop ("Duy D.")
  Re: avoiding the mouse (Andrew Purugganan)
  HELP: installation of PostgreSQL (Alex)
  Re: Problem installing Netscape Communicator (Mark Thomas)
  Re: how to verify if the SMTP server is ok?
  Re: avoiding the mouse (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a  ("Duy D.")
  Re: Which one to pick (Rod Smith)
  Re: Problem installing Netscape Communicator (Frank Johnson)
  Netscape crashing - strace output ("Kurt V. Hindenburg")
  WindowMaker + RH6.1: crash during SaveSession ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: PPP on Lombard PowerBook no longer working
From: "Paul J. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:00:32 GMT

        I'm running on a '99 PowerBook (Lombard).  I'm running a kernel
        I compiled form 2.2.15 source.  My kernel config is attached.

        At one point, I had PPP working fine: I saw the output from
        'chat' in the logs and it connected.

        Now, it no longer works.  If I do an strace on pppd, it hangs
        on doing a select system call on the file descriptor associated
        with the tty device it opens.  If I wait a really long time and
        then kill the process, I get "select: function not implemented
        (38)".  Well, this makes sense since that's where it dies, but
        I don't know (a) why it's trying to do a select or (b) how to
        make it implemented.

        - Paul

#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#

#
# Platform support
#
CONFIG_PPC=y
CONFIG_6xx=y
# CONFIG_8xx is not set
CONFIG_PMAC=y
# CONFIG_PREP is not set
# CONFIG_CHRP is not set
# CONFIG_ALL_PPC is not set
# CONFIG_APUS is not set
# CONFIG_GEMINI is not set
# CONFIG_MBX is not set
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_ALTIVEC is not set
CONFIG_MACH_SPECIFIC=y
CONFIG_6xx=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_QUIRKS is not set
CONFIG_PCI_OLD_PROC=y
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
# CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set
CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_FB_COMPAT_XPMAC=y
CONFIG_PMAC_PBOOK=y
CONFIG_MAC_KEYBOARD=y
# CONFIG_MAC_FLOPPY is not set
CONFIG_MAC_SERIAL=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set
CONFIG_ADBMOUSE=y
CONFIG_PROC_DEVICETREE=y
# CONFIG_TOTALMP is not set
CONFIG_BOOTX_TEXT=y
# CONFIG_MOTOROLA_HOTSWAP is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
CONFIG_PNP=y

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82C586 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD646=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SL82C105 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PMAC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
CONFIG_PMAC_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=m
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
# CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set
CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
# CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
CONFIG_ATALK=m
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
# CONFIG_LLC is not set
# CONFIG_ECONET is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_IS_SLOW is not set

#
# QoS and/or fair queueing
#
# CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y

#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y

#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_7000FASST is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA152X=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1740=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=m
# CONFIG_AIC7XXX_TCQ_ON_BY_DEFAULT is not set
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=8
# CONFIG_AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS is not set
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY=15
# CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IN2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AM53C974 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DTC3280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_DMA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GENERIC_NCR5380 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_PORT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_MEM is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INITIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C406A is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C416 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SIM710 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C7xx is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=8
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=32
CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYNC=40
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PROFILE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_PQS_PDS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NCR53C8XX_SYMBIOS_COMPAT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PAS16 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2000 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PCI2220I is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PSI240I is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FAS=m
CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP=m
CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC=m
# CONFIG_SCSI_SEAGATE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC390T is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_T128 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_U14_34F is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ULTRASTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_MESH=y
CONFIG_SCSI_MESH_SYNC_RATE=5
CONFIG_SCSI_MAC53C94=m

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y

#
# ARCnet devices
#
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY=y
# CONFIG_BONDING is not set
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_ETHERTAP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_SB1000 is not set

#
# Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)
#
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
CONFIG_MACE=y
CONFIG_BMAC=y
# CONFIG_GMAC is not set
# CONFIG_NCR885E is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_RTL8139 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
# CONFIG_NET_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set

#
# Ethernet (1000 Mbit)
#
# CONFIG_ACENIC is not set
# CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set
# CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_HIPPI is not set

#
# Appletalk devices
#
# CONFIG_LTPC is not set
# CONFIG_COPS is not set
# CONFIG_IPDDP is not set
CONFIG_PPP=m

#
# CCP compressors for PPP are only built as modules.
#
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set

#
# Token ring devices
#
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FC is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SHAPER is not set

#
# Wan interfaces
#
# CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set
# CONFIG_COSA is not set
# CONFIG_SEALEVEL_4021 is not set
# CONFIG_LANMEDIA is not set
# CONFIG_COMX is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_SBNI is not set

#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set

#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN is not set

#
# Old CD-ROM drivers (not SCSI, not IDE)
#
# CONFIG_CD_NO_IDESCSI is not set

#
# Console drivers
#
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FB_PM2 is not set
CONFIG_FB_OF=y
CONFIG_FB_CONTROL=y
CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM=y
CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE=y
# CONFIG_FB_IMSTT is not set
CONFIG_FB_CT65550=y
# CONFIG_FB_S3TRIO is not set
# CONFIG_FB_MATROX is not set
CONFIG_FB_ATY=y
CONFIG_FB_ATY128=y
# CONFIG_FB_VIRTUAL is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_ADVANCED is not set
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB8=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB16=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB24=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB32=y
# CONFIG_FBCON_AFB is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_ILBM is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_IPLAN2P2 is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_IPLAN2P4 is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_IPLAN2P8 is not set
CONFIG_FBCON_MAC=y
# CONFIG_FBCON_VGA_PLANES is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_VGA is not set
# CONFIG_FBCON_FONTWIDTH8_ONLY is not set
CONFIG_FBCON_FONTS=y
# CONFIG_FONT_8x8 is not set
CONFIG_FONT_8x16=y
# CONFIG_FONT_SUN8x16 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_SUN12x22 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_6x11 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_PEARL_8x8 is not set
# CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8 is not set

#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL=m
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
CONFIG_MOUSE=y

#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set

#
# Joysticks
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
CONFIG_NVRAM=m
# CONFIG_RTC is not set

#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set
# CONFIG_DTLK is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NORMAL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_FULL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE_AT_ALL is not set
# CONFIG_FT_STD_FDC is not set
# CONFIG_FT_MACH2 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_PROBE_FC10 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_ALT_FDC is not set

#
# Support for USB
#
CONFIG_USB=m

#
# USB Controllers
#
# CONFIG_USB_UHCI is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set

#
# Miscellaneous USB options
#
# CONFIG_USB_DEBUG_ISOC is not set
CONFIG_USB_PROC=y
CONFIG_USB_EZUSB=m

#
# USB Devices
#
CONFIG_USB_HUB=m
CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m
# CONFIG_USB_HP_SCANNER is not set
CONFIG_USB_KBD=m
CONFIG_USB_AUDIO=m
CONFIG_USB_ACM=m
CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m
CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=m
# CONFIG_USB_CPIA is not set
CONFIG_USB_DC2XX=m
CONFIG_USB_SCSI=m
# CONFIG_USB_SCSI_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_UMAX_SCANNER is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_HFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=m
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set

#
# Network File Systems
#
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_NFSD is not set
CONFIG_SUNRPC=m
CONFIG_LOCKD=m
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y
# CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y
CONFIG_DMASOUND=y
# CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MAESTRO is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_ESSSOLO1 is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_SONICVIBES is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDCLAS is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_MSNDPIN is not set
# CONFIG_SOUND_OSS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
# CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set
# CONFIG_KGDB is not set
# CONFIG_XMON is not set

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From: "David Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux vs MS; point-n-click
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:14:54 -0800

Trying out a switch to linux, and I have some frustrations.
How is linux going to be a successful replacement to NT if
I gota RTFM every time I want to do something simple like
install a program.  I am trying to setup a ftp server on a RR cable
modem cuz NT/WarFTP isn't doing what I want.  So far I finally
got linux installed <what a hastle, I thought NT was picky on hardware>
After that I am trying to figure out how to get on the net let alone install
glftpd and get user accounts setup.  From what I have read I gota download
some C code and compile it and then jump through some other hoops
to get my cable modem to work on linux.  Of course my provider says
I'm SOL since they do not support linux.  So then how difficult is it going
to be to get a linux ftp box up and running.  BTW with winblows I could
get my mom to install it and she has never even been on a puter.

thankx for reading....





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Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:11:00 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Anwander)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,comp.editors,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?

Hallo d95mback

> > I write my papers in "Word".
> I use vim.
but you are using TeX or you are writing QuarkXpress Datacode ;-)

> So go ahead and slap me.
batchchch

> Did I mention that I use vim to answer usenet posts?
Oh, I use vi (without the "m")


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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH Linux on a Labtop
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:22:54 -0600



blariz wrote:
> 
> I am pretty sure XF86 will work with Neomagic, not sure about the
> touchpad.  As for the partitions, you will need to make them primary
> not extended.
> blariz

Neither Linux partition or linux swap partition have to be primary.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: avoiding the mouse
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:12:43 GMT

Jan Schaumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Now I don't know in how far the kwm is operatable via keyboard only, but
: windowmamger works pretty dammn well - even though just using the
: keyboard makes the cute little dock and clip obsolete...

Er, how DO you switch workspaces using the keyboard (in WindowMaker)? Did 
you have to do any special configuring to enable it?

And, are you able to send an active window to another workspace with just 
the keyboard? (these are neat tricks I can pull off on my Litestep PC at 
work)
--
jazz  annandy AT dc DOT seflin DOT org
Registered linux user no. 164098-88940
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: installation of PostgreSQL
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:30:23 GMT

Hi,
 I am in the process of installing PostgreSQL 6.5.3 and 
1. The ./configure program says it can't detect what my machine is (--
disable-locale has to be done manually)
2. gmake doeswn't work at all, giving a line like:
[1] 1234
then going back to the prompt

I am following the instructions from the admin pdf, located at the 
postgreSQL site.

Can anyone please help?
Regards, Alex�.


--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Mark Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem installing Netscape Communicator
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:31:05 +0000




ditch x and go tothe directory where you unzipped the file, and 
type sh ns-install, and follow the prompts. You wont need to remove
the previous version.

Mark


On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Richard Phillips wrote:

> Hello,
> I have downloaded Communicator because the one that comes with Corel Linux
> doesn't appear to include an email/newsgroup client.  I have unzipped it
> into a directory where a readme file tells me the advised way to install it
> is to run a file called 'netscape.ns' (or something similar) which is a
> Bourne Again Shellscript if my understanding is correct.  Everytime I click
> on this file though, all that happens is a window flashes up very quickly
> and then dissapears (I don't see it long enough to give more info).  Nothing
> else happens!  Am I doing something wrong?  Any advice on how to get this
> installed gratefully received!
> Rich.
> P.S. How do I uninstall the version that is currently installed prior to
> putting the new one on?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how to verify if the SMTP server is ok?
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:30:58 +0000

Ljubomir Josifovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > 220 ridingwood.shef.ac.uk Mercury 1.46 ESMTP server ready.
> > HELO cough.dcs.shef.ac.uk 
> > 250 ridingwood.shef.ac.uk Hi there, cough.dcs.shef.ac.uk.
> > MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 250 Sender OK - send RCPTs.
> > RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 250 Recipient OK - send RCPT or DATA.
> > DATA
> > 354 OK, send data, end with CRLF.CRLF
> > 
> > test.
> > telnet ridingwood smtp from cough
> > 
> > .
> > 250 Data received OK.
> > QUIT
> > 221 ridingwood.shef.ac.uk Service closing channel.

I would have typed
  RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
complete with angle brackets and local-part capitalisation (in theory
the local part of an address is case-sensitive). Otherwise there is
a risk that ridingwood tries to deliver to " l.josifovski" (with a
leading space), fails ("No such user"), tries to return the message
to < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, also fails for the same reason, and
you won't get anything back unless the Postmaster is in a good mood
and sends you a note about this.

I would also have included a To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
header in the test message, but your problem is unlikely to be
due to missing mandatory headers.


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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: avoiding the mouse
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:46:23 -0500

Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> 
> Jan Schaumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Now I don't know in how far the kwm is operatable via keyboard only, but
> : windowmamger works pretty dammn well - even though just using the
> : keyboard makes the cute little dock and clip obsolete...
> 
> Er, how DO you switch workspaces using the keyboard (in WindowMaker)? Did
> you have to do any special configuring to enable it?
> 

Well, switching to another workspace is easy - my WM was configured to
cycle through the workspaces using Ctrl+Alt+right/left-arrow, but you
can, of course change that. If you want to change to a specific
workspace, say Nr. 4, just do alt+4.
change that, if you like, too.


> And, are you able to send an active window to another workspace with just
> the keyboard? (these are neat tricks I can pull off on my Litestep PC at
> work)

hmmm, that oen I haven't configured on my WM, b/c I DO use the mouse and
actually are not using too many workspaces anyway (usually not more than
3), but I'd be *really* surprised if you couldn't do that with the
keyboard as well...

Oh, and instad of alt-tab, I just discovered that you can hit F11 for a
list of open apps... how cool! :))

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net

Could this be the best day of my life?

                -- Homer Simpson

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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a 
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:47:39 -0600



"REMOVE_ME_TO_REPLY Andre - Nospam Wanted!!!" wrote:
> 
> Is turbolinux server available somewhere as a download or is this a commercial
> distro only?
> 
> I already have debian, redhat 6.1, turbolinux workstation and would like to
> try turbolinux server. If it is a download please let me know.
> 
> Thanks

ftp://ftp.turbolinux.com/pub/iso-images/
All three CD images are available.

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Which one to pick
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:55:00 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <8b61cb$ml$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi there,
> I know this will cause some debate - however I am a relatively compentent pc
> engineer and I want to have a look see at linux, however just want to get
> some info on what variant I should choose. I have thought about corel
> however heard that is the worst variant there is.
> What thoughts do people have? Just I do not want to down load a huge number
> of files only to discover i picked a lemon.

I've written up my thoughts on several (but by no means all) Linux
distributions at:

http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux

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From: Frank Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.corel,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem installing Netscape Communicator
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:48:32 +0000

Richard Phillips wrote:
> Hello,
> I have downloaded Communicator because the one that comes with Corel Linux
> doesn't appear to include an email/newsgroup client.  I have unzipped it
> into a directory where a readme file tells me the advised way to install it
> is to run a file called 'netscape.ns' (or something similar) which is a
> Bourne Again Shellscript if my understanding is correct.  Everytime I click
> on this file though, all that happens is a window flashes up very quickly
> and then dissapears (I don't see it long enough to give more info).  Nothing
> else happens!  Am I doing something wrong?  Any advice on how to get this
> installed gratefully received!
> Rich.

I may be wrong as I'm new at this but try going to the command line, cd to
the directory with netscape.ns in and type ./netscape.ns

-- 

Frank Johnson

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From: "Kurt V. Hindenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape crashing - strace output
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:58:26 GMT

Using netscape alone and communicator version 4.7 I get
the following with strace -p #####

--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
gettimeofday({953591693, 844522}, NULL) = 0
sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
gettimeofday({953591693, 894567}, NULL) = 0
sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
gettimeofday({953591693, 944550}, NULL) = 0
sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
gettimeofday({953591693, 994522}, NULL) = 0
sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---
gettimeofday({953591694, 44546}, NULL)  = 0
sigreturn()                             = ? (mask now [])
--- SIGALRM (Alarm clock) ---


Over and over til I kill -9 ####....any ideas?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WindowMaker + RH6.1: crash during SaveSession
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:54:40 GMT

Hello everyone,

I recently upgraded to RH6.1 (from RH6.0). I was running WindowMaker
(that shipped with RH6) and now have migrated to the new version of
WindowMaker that ships with RH6.1
I notice that when I attempt to save my session, it aborts the entire
session with Bug#11
Has anyone come across this problem? I tried removing all my personal
settings by purgin the ~/GNUstep tree structure. I still experience the
same problem when I attempt add another icon to my dock and save the
settings.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.

-Thas
PS: Is this in anyway related to the fact that the shell definition for
the 'Program' menu does not seem to generate the 'Program' sub-menu (it
works fine when I try the same routine in the command line!


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