Linux-Misc Digest #931, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 15:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Micah McCurdy)
Re: mandrake installation trouble (Eric Potter)
Re: Visual programming language for linux? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (John Varela)
Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question (Jiim McIntyre)
Re: Why are things so screwy ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
e-mail program and resolution in X ("pico")
Gnome and window manager ("pico")
Re: I only can login as root ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
windows95 and lilo ("pico")
Re: LINUX Internet Access Questions ("H. Michael Smith, Jr.")
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Hans Wolters)
Deleting individual messages off pop server (Charles M)
Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux (Rob)
Re: Non-Root Dial Up Networking (Adrian Hands)
Re: Having trouble compiling ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Micah McCurdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 11:41:57 -0300
Cable modems don't connect directly into your computer. They connect through
RJ-45 cord to an ethernet card which you either own or buy from the company that
you buy the cable service from. You have to make sure that you have a compatible
ethernet card - which, for Linux, is probably th most widely supported piece of
hardware - the cable modem itself is O/S independant. You may have to worry about
some providers which use proopritary windows software to authenticate its users -
I know road-runner does this - make sure you ask. There is a fix, however, for
RoadRunner, but I don't know about any others.
HTH, Micah McCurdy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi there
>
> in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> WINBLOWS modems.
>
> and since i dont use microsucks virus testing software i need to know
> what modem should i buy?
>
> thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: mandrake installation trouble
Date: 5 Jul 1999 17:09:21 GMT
henning hummert enlightened this group thus:
> is there any way to influence the kernel configuration during the
> install of mandrake 6.0? when i install mandrake everything works fine
> but when i try to boot the kernel (ver 2.2.5) hangs after/while
> detecting my harddisk. i had the same problem with redhat 6.0 but i
> found a solution with upgrading from 5.2 and not installing lilo at the
> end of the installation {booting with my old 2.2.9 kernel}.
>
> but i cant do this with a complete new installation.
>
> if anybody has an idea it would be really appreciated
>
When I installed Mandrake 6.0 on my PPro 180, it installed an SMP kernel by
default, but I only have one CPU and it caused my system to hang on boot up.
I reinstalled, choosing [*]select individual packages, during the installation.
Then I had to find the SMP kernel in the menu, and de-select it. It booted up
fine after that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Visual programming language for linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:51:33 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:21:49 -0500, Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 11:19:11 +0200, mei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>> >"Christopher B. Browne" ha scritto:
>> >> >http://www.cs.uni-potsdam.de/~smeier/kdevelop/
>> >>
>> >> I thought they were asking about a visual *language,* not merely an IDE.
>> >
>> >kdevelop can create GUI like normal visual language.
>>
>> I wasn't aware that there were *any* visual programming languages
>> available for Linux.
>>
>> There is *no* mention made of Linux in the comp.lang.visual FAQ
>> <ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/comp.lang.visual/Faq/faq>, and the languages
>> mentioned as examples of the paradigm do not appear to be available
>> for Linux.
>>
>There is a QT tool, whose name escapes me at the moment, that looks like
>it very similar to Visual Basic in look and operation (except that it is
>using the QT graphics calls to C++).
C++ is not a visual programming language.
BASIC is not a visual programming language.
Is this QT tool a visual programming language in and of itself?
If so, then I'd be interested in hearing its name, which probably should
be added to the list of visual programming languages.
If not, then this is merely another attempt on the part of the witless
cattle to follow Microsoft in lying to people by calling something
"Visual" in order to get them to *think* they're getting something visual
when they're not.
As far as I can tell, there are *no* visual programming languages
available for Linux, and I've seen no evidence to indicate otherwise.
The existence of "IDEs" does not represent evidence, as IDEs are not
visual programming languages.
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/languages.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Varela)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: 5 Jul 1999 14:44:41 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:41:57, Micah McCurdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> some providers which use proopritary windows software to authenticate its users -
> I know road-runner does this - make sure you ask. There is a fix, however, for
> RoadRunner, but I don't know about any others.
Where does one find the fix?
--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring
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From: Jiim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 14:45:11 -0300
I know Linux isn't affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
explanation for this. I'm writing a tutorial page, and this is one of
the questions I need to answer. If anybody can explain this in simple or
can point me to an explanation on the web, it is greatly appreciated.
Thankx in advance
Jim McIntyre
Webmaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Why are things so screwy ?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:44:05 GMT
> David Fouts ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I was just telling another person that "you don't understand,
> : I actually need to be productive" when I read your e-mail.
>
> Use Windows. It is very simple, really.
>
> : Linux is neat but I'm afraid it's not ready for prime time
>
> Maybe you're afraid that *you* are not ready for primetime.
Its attitude like this that is going to cost Linux
very heavily and i'am sure u had nothing to do with the
spread of knowledge of Unix/Linux.
Keep it to urself maybe some day u'll actually do
some-thing usefull.
> Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
> "Windows was designed to keep the idiots away from Unix so we could
> hack in peace. Let's not break that." --Tom Christiansen
>
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From: "pico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: e-mail program and resolution in X
Date: 5 Jul 1999 18:14:27 GMT
I am using redhat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9.
I am looking for a user friendly e-mail program. Something like kmail.
Then something about compiling. Is it possible to speed it up? I am using a
486dx4-100, with 32mb of RAM and a 4mb S3 Virge DX videocard.
In windows I have a resolution of 800x600, but in Linux I can only have
640x480. How can I change that? I
changed the resolutionto 800x600, but then X refuses to start (I get an
error...). How is this possible? What to do?
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From: "pico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Gnome and window manager
Date: 5 Jul 1999 18:14:28 GMT
Hi,
Is it possible to start Gnome with another window manager then
enlightenment? If so, how do I change that. What file do I have to edit? I
have looked around in Xclients, but there I can only change the window
manager I prefer. But where can I change the window manager Gnome is using?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I only can login as root
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 13:59:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I removed and created manually the account in passwd and shadow
> > I checked home permissions. I can do su - frankie.
> > I checked /dev/tty* permissions
> >
> Remove your account, then re-create it with 'adduser'.
Thank you for your help. It didn't work. Anyway I removed
almost all the entries in passwd and shadow and started
creating from scratch. There must have been a non-readable
caracter anywhere.
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From: "pico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: windows95 and lilo
Date: 5 Jul 1999 18:14:26 GMT
Hello,
I use RedHat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9.
Besides Linux I make use of windows95. I have installed it 2 times. One I
want to keep clean and one I use for testing software. How can I configure
Linux (LILO) to make it possible to switch between the 2 installations of
windows 95? Just adding both in /etc/lilo.conf doesn't work. I have to
change the active partition first before it is possible for LILO to boot
that partition. I hope I am clear.
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From: "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX Internet Access Questions
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:58:30 -0400
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A great article, if one follows it beginning to end, is:
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(I love the HOWTO's, but this one was easy to follow and addresses
'what if's)
// Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: 5 Jul 1999 14:59:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the following ....
>in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
>was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
>compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
>cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
>WINBLOWS modems.
>
>and since i dont use microsucks virus testing software i need to know
>what modem should i buy?
If your're in luck they are using something like com21. They are
connected to an ethernetcard.
Regards Hans
--
Linux / Com21 kabel modem / CMI8330 Soundpro Mini HOWTO
http://linux.gelrevision.nl/
4:58pm up 7 days, 18:57, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.08, 0.10
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles M)
Subject: Deleting individual messages off pop server
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:07:33 -0500
A previous thread got me thinking about this one. Is there any way with
fetchmail (or whatever) to do a keep/nokeep based upon individual
messages by message id? In other words, if I leave messages on a server,
but want to delete one of them (and just that one) is there any way to do
this under Linux? In Windows, Eudora and Calypso can do this, for
instance.
CMM
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From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: cable modems and os2 warp 4 and linux
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 15:07:31 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hi there
>
> in 2 weeks we will be getting cable internet access around here, and i
> was wondering if there are os2 compatible cable modems (also LINUX
> compatible) that someone could recommend, i dont know yet what ones the
> cable co lesaes /sells but i am willing to bet that they are probably
> WINBLOWS modems.
>
> and since i dont use microsucks virus testing software i need to know
> what modem should i buy?
>
> thanks
Well cable modems are a NIC (Network Interface Card) and a external
router box.
What service is the cable system useing? @home if so all you have to
worry about is the NIC
if linux and OS/2 will see it. But i am sure they will.
There is good suport for the cards in both.
Rob
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get paid to surf the web http://www.coldbird.com/alladd
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Non-Root Dial Up Networking
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 11:19:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julian Evans wrote:
>
> I have a dial up ppp account configured as ppp0 and it works fine... as
> long as i am in root. To connect i give the command:
>
> ifup ppp0
>
>
> If i log in as another account and give the same command (after i made some
> modifications to the $PATH) it says "Operation not allowed."
>
> I would like to be able to use this command in my other account but do not know
> how.
>
> I am Running Red Hat 6.0 and I just installed it, if anyone wants to help that
> would be great!
>
> Julian Evans, The Utopian Monkey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks
Durring configuration the system asks you if you want to allow users to
bring the interface up and down.
Behind-the-scenes, what happens is the file
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 gets edited thusly:
USERCTL=yes
Then, when you run ifup as anything other than root, this piece of the
script invokes /usr/sbin/usernetctl to bring the interface up:
if [ $UID != 0 ]; then
if [ -x /usr/sbin/usernetctl ]; then
exec /usr/sbin/usernetctl $CONFIG up
fi
echo "Users cannot control this device." >&2
exit 1
fi
So,
In short, either re-run the configuration tool ( netcfg ? ) or edit
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 to set USERCTL=yes.
-Adrian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Having trouble compiling
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:08:03 GMT
Since i still havent got any usefull tips/hints i repeat my earlier
posts. Please try to be constructive.
--V0D--
vod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> These dayz i spend more time *trying* to get things to
> work on Linux than actually doing anything productive.
> It seems almost 80% of time is spent trying to compile *tar_gz
> files and rpm'ing rpms that i download.
> And more than half the times they dont compile straight-away.
>
> ------
> eg: 1.
> I wanted to install ghostview on my machine .
> So i did "rpm -i gv*..rpm".
> I got error saying failed dependecy libXaw3d.so.6
> or whatever..not found
>
> So i checked rpm -qal|grep 'libXaw3d'
> and got /usr/lib.../libxaw3d..
> i suppoes that means i have the file on my system.
>
> Why is it then that i am getting 'failed dependecy libXaw3d.so.6'
error.
>
> ------
> eg: 2.
> I wanted to install cooledit (a texteditor/IDE).
> I downloaded all the required files.
> Unzipped and un-tarred the files
> Actually went thru the README and INSTALL files.
> Made sure i has all the required libraries gtk and glibc etc
> and the required versions.
>
> Then i did:
> ./configure ## no errors reported here
> make
>
> then all hell broke loose and it spat the following errors at me:
>
> gcc -O2 -s -Wall -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -I/usr/X11R6/include
> -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o .libs/cooledit cooledit.o find.o editoptions.o
> mancmd.o
> options.o debug.o cooleditmenus.o shell.o mail.o complete.o manpage.o
> percentsubs.o _coolpython.o ../widget/.libs/libCw.so -lX11 -Wl,--rpath
> -Wl,/usr/local/lib
> cooledit.o: In function serone_handler':
> cooledit.o(.text+0x26): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x62): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o: In function uit_handler':
> cooledit.o(.text+0xe6): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o: In function et_next_hint_message':
> cooledit.o(.text+0x1fa): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x234): undefined reference to cgettext__'
> cooledit.o(.text+0x2a0): more undefined references to cgettext__'
> follow
> make[2]: *** [cooledit] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/local/cooledit-3.10.0/editor'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/local/cooledit-3.10.0'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>
> Why is giving me the above mentioned error even though i have the
> required libraries.? And if the libraires were not there or not the
> required
> version why didnt "configure" mention those errors or inadequecy?
>
> ------
> these are just few of the un-successful attempts that i had to face.
>
> ------
> The common cause seems to be make utility or rpms not being able to
find
> the
> libraries even though they are there.
> What can be done to remedy this, what are the possible ways to tell
rpm
> package where to look for libraries.?
>
> ------
> Why is there so much inconsistency in the requirement of
> the libraries that are needed by programs to compile.
> Almost every program i download seems to require its own
> set of libraries and versions of the same.
>
> And i would request developers to post binaries, it would
> save such a lot of time for persons who want to do some
> work at Linux rather than spend dayz trying to figure how
> to configure and compile.
>
> ======
> Any tips or solutions or comments to my above mentioned problems would
> be
> very welcome and much appreciated.
>
> --regards--
> -V0D-
>
>
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