Linux-Misc Digest #931, Volume #26 Fri, 26 Jan 01 21:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm (Steve Withers)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 (Robert Lynch)
Re: How to configure LILO to boot from alternate HDD? ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: Need a Browser ("Patrick Bartek")
Why this Oops? (PoD)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: Tool needed: Memory leaks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Brian V. Smith)
Re: ls colors (Cristian)
Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Brian V. Smith)
Re: ls colors (Cristian)
Re: vim syntax colors (Thomas Dickey)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (.)
Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001 ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Grant Edwards)
How to return to Gnome GUI ("NG_lurker")
Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat (Steve Ackman)
Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm (David)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Charlie Ebert)
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From: Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:20:25 +1300
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Frank Hale wrote:
> >
> > > Why do they not update their isos? Who knows.
> >
> > Just take a look at that masterpiece they released called RHL 7, and that
> > should tell you. I was a long time RH user, I even bought 7, when I
> > installed it and actually tried to use it I completely went crazy. Now I am
> > moving to something else. Bye bye RedHat nice going with 7, you lost a very
> > faithful customer.
>
> What did you do wrong? Have wu-ftp running and rpc.statd running without a
> firewall? Don't use them. Use ssh. If you must run rpc.statd. because you
> must have nfs, then dedicate a firewall to the task. Don't even need to buy
> a computer. If you already have a hub, $120 will buy a nice NAT/firewall
> router.
I recompile my kernels and leave out all the stuff I have no need
for....like NFS. I use samba because I have a hybrid Linux / Windows
network. Thats all I need.
I also used to turn off virtually everything in inetd....except now
RH7.0 hax xinetd and it doesn't work.
I have tried to use the "bind" and "only_from" parameters and they
simply don't work....I get syntax errors even when the statements are
eyeball identical to the docs.....very frustrating. How hard would it be
to put a GUI front-end on that xinetd config....with a wee bit of help
attached? Even if it was just to turn a function of or on.....Maybe that
hsould be my first Linux prgramming effort....write an X utility that
handles the /etc/xinetd.conf file and the /etc/xinetd.d/<whatever>
files.
xinetd looks like a great idea....but the implementation in RH 7.0 sucks
rotten bananas.
Steve
Steve
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:21:18 GMT
"Christopher C. Stump" wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I've run into a problem with firewalling under the 2.4.0 kernel on Red
> Hat 6.2 .
>
> My build of the kernel went smoothly. I compiled in the option for
> NetFilter so that I could use iptables. Under the NetFilter
> configuration options, I selected everything as modules except ipchains
>
> and ipfwdm(?) support. After kernel installation I downloaded the
> iptables package and installed it.
>
> From what I understand, that is all I need to do. However, when I try
> to test iptables with a rule specified towards the loopback device
> (iptables -A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1 -p icmp -j DROP...test as seen in the
> iptables HOWTO), I get the following error message:
>
> "iptables v1.2: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
> (do you need to insmod?)Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be
> upgraded."
>
> Now, I have checked and double checked my kernel configuration to make
> sure it is correct--I've recompliled the kernel at least twice since
> encountering this problem. And like I said, all the proper options for
> NetFilter support seem to be in place. The 'support for NetFilter'
> option under "networking" in xconfig is set to 'Y' and all NetFilter
> config options (expcept the 2 specified above) were selected as
> modules. Of course, all modules were built and installed after 'make
> bzImage' at kernel compilation.
>
> One interesting thing to note is that when I run the 'lsmod' command, I
> see no modules loaded that seem to relate to packet filtering. Are
> there modules that I need to manually install in order to get iptables
> to work? If so, what are they? The error message seems to indicate that
> some modules need to be loaded, but I thought the modules made for the
> kernel were "loaded on demand" and that I didn't need to do anything.
>
> I've searched newsgroups, read the iptables HOWTO, etc. but I've had no
> luck figuring this problem out. I would very much appreciate any advice
>
> on this issue.
>
> Thanks in advance to all who reply
>
> --
> Christopher C. Stump
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Homepage: http://www.thestump.net
> Registered with the Linux counter, ID#183377
>
> "Computers are like air conditioners...Once you open
> Windows, they stop working correctly" -Unknown Linux User
I've been running iptables with 2.4.0, RH 7.0, so it can be
done. Right now I've been trying to set it up on another system
with problems, so I am attuned to your question.
Try :
cd'ing to /lib/modules/2.4.0/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter
(name on my system; go wherever the netfilter modules live on
your system)
and do:
insmod ip_tables.o
I'll bet you get "unresolved symbols..." If so, try
reconfiguring and recompiling your kernel (sorry 'bout that) such
that the message goes away.
At least on my system, if "depmod -a" runs into errors, it
doesn't make /etc/modules.conf so then you can't automagically
load modules with modprobe.
(Also, do you have the latest modutils?)
HTH.
Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:31:27 +0800
Subject: Re: How to configure LILO to boot from alternate HDD?
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:49:10 -0800, posting in
comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
> I have two HDDs.
>
> One is on the primary IDE channel as hda. This one contains multiple Linux
> ext2 partitions.
>
> The other is on the secondary IDE channel as hdc. This one contains a single
> MS-DOS partition.
>
> I edited lilo.conf such that it contains
>
> other=/dev/hdc1
> label=MS-DOS
>
> then I ran lilo. It said adding Linux* and adding MS-DOS. I just uncommented
> the default lines that start with "# other" and changed the device name and the
> name for the OS to load. I'm citing lilo.conf and the lilo response from memory.
> If I didn't get it exactly right, that's more or less what it was.
>
> I rebooted, and at the boot prompt I typed MS-DOS. It then said
>
> Non-System disk or disk error
> Replace and press any key when ready
>
> I press a key, then it says
>
> Loading Linux...
> Uncompressing Linux.................
>
> and boots from hda1. Did I do something wrong somewhere? I want to be able to
> choose which HDD to boot from without modifying hdc1.
I had the same problem, except that I had W98 on the C: drive, DOS6.22
as the 1st partition of the 2nd drive, and Linux taking up the rest of
the 2nd drive.
The installer (Mandrake 7.0) had used the "map" command in lilo.conf
file on the W98 stanza, but this prevented W98 from booting. I
removed it and could then boot 98, but with the MS-DOS partition, I
got the same error as you. However, I read in one of the HOWTOs
(Don't remember which one. Sorry.) and in the book RUNNING LINUX,
that to get an MS-DOS partition that is one a second hard drive to
boot, you must use the "loader" command and another loader other than
the one Linux is using in the MS-DOS stanza. I used the OS2 loader
(the only other one that came with my distro) and now my DOS partition
boots and runs just fine.
--
Patrick Bartek
NoLife Polymath Group
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jan 2001 14:39:23 +0800
Subject: Re: Need a Browser
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:22:23 -0500, Jon Rook posting in
comp.os.linux.misc wrote:
> I installed Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop2.4 recently and Netscape was
> included in the distribution. I've noticed that there are many web
> sites out there that cause this version of Netscape to lock-up.
> I've tried using the KDE File Manager (KFM) and that seems more robust,
> but I haven't been able to figure out how download a file from the web
> with this 'browser'.
> Today I downloaded a binary of the Mosaic browser. But in reading the
> documentation it seems that development on that browser was halted back
> in 1997 and I wonder if this browser will not have problems with some
> sites also.
> Can anyone recommend a good browser.
Try Opera -- www.opera.com It is small, fast and full-featured. It
also costs $35US, IIRC; but you can download a 30 day demo to try it.
I used the Windows 3.1 version of Opera on an old 25MHz 486 notebook
that had only 4MB of RAM. It ran just fine, while I couldn't even
install Netscape on the machine -- not enough RAM. FWIW, I still use
this little notebook for writing, record keeping, e-mail, Usenet and
light webbing, when I'm on the road.
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NoLife Polymath Group
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:08:35 +1030
From: PoD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why this Oops?
When I got to my computer this morning I found that it had Oopsed
overnight.
This is the first time I've seen this so I'd really appreciate some
advice.
I'm running a highly modified Redhat 6.2 with Kernal 2.4.0.
Could this be just a random memory glitch?
I've appended the relevent part of /var/log/messages. I couldn't log in
on another VT so I couldn't get /proc/ksyms. Should I send this in as a
bug report?
TIA PoD.
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request
at virtual address 41274c18
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: printing eip:
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: c0142792
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: *pde = 00a94067
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: *pte = 00000000
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Oops: 0000
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: CPU: 0
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: EIP: 0010:[iput+26/340]
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: eax: 41274c00 ebx: c139a600 ecx:
c139a610 edx: c139a610
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: esi: 00000000 edi: c139a600 ebp:
fffe91db esp: c123bf94
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Process kswapd (pid: 3,
stackpage=c123b000)
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Stack: c67d5c80 c67d5c60 c0140cf6
c139a600 00010f00 000000ac 00000004 00000000
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: c0140fd1 000045d0 c0129e6b
00000006 00000004 00010f00 c02267d1 c123a239
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: 0008e000 c0129f26 00000004
00000000 c7ff3fbc c0105000 00000000 c010744f
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Call Trace: [prune_dcache+218/332]
[shrink_dcache_memory+33/48] [do_try_to_free_pages+83/128]
[kswapd+142/312] [empty_bad_page+0/4096] [kernel_thread+35/48]
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel:
Jan 27 04:05:46 localhost kernel: Code: 8b 70 18 85 f6 74 0d 8b 46 08 85
c0 74 06 53 ff d0 83 c4 04
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:40:50 -0000
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:10:20 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Harlan Grove wrote:
>>
>> In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>> ...
>> >Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>> >people written down somewhere?
>> ...
>>
>> The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
>> for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
>> of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
>> the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
>> make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
>> chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>>
>> Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>
>Personally, I think that EVERYONE in America should have to apply for
>citizenship, just like immigrants.
>
>How many of the "government owes me a paycheck for my mere existance"
>ignorami would be prevented from voting until they demonstrated an
>understanding of our history and Constitution in a Citizenship application.
What makes you think that such people even bother to vote?
[deletia]
--
>> Yes. And the mailer should never hand off directly to a program
>> that allows the content to take control.
>
>Well most mailers can, so I guess they all suck too.
Yup.
Candy from strangers should be treated as such.
|||
/ | \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tool needed: Memory leaks
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:40:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are about 10 of them for linux. Debauch, Electric Fence, Checker
> and Memwatch are just some of the possibilties.
Thanks. I will try them all!
> > also: have anyone heard about automation testing tool for gui apps
on linux?
>
> What kind of testing do you want to do?
performance, functional, etc.
for: X, microwindows, netscape/mozilla, other gui apps. Basically, to
automate a manual clicking/dragging for GUI apps.
> Erik
Thanks, Erik.
> "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea;
i'm third on that! :) i just wish a had a normal shell account with
usenet and tin running, ooh, thanks at least dejanews exists..
linux-cheek,
lilia
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:50:57 GMT
In article <94t2pg$dk4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
|> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> > Irrelevant. (Oh, but "ill"/"elses," or were these just typos when you
|> > meant "I'll"/"else's"?)
|>
|> They werent typos, and thats not what I meant. Read my other posts in
|> this thread.
If they weren't typos and that wasn't what you meant then what does "ill" and "elses"
mean?
It isn't English.
--
===============================================================
Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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From: Cristian <c{ristian}h{umberto}[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ls colors
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:08:49 GMT
Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you disable ls colors? ie when I run ls to list the directory
> contents, I don't want to see the results in color. Just white on black.
> My laptop does not display the blue color redhat uses for files very well.
> Thanks in advance
> Jeff
Hi,
ls has some predefined colors, but they can be modified with the
LS_COLORS environment variable. For example I use the following in my
.bash_profile to avoid boldfaces (i.e. I guess the problem you have with
the blue boldface letters)
LS_COLORS='di=00;34:ln=00;36:or=00;31:mi=00;31:ex=00;32:';
export LS_COLORS
If you want to customize more, or want to set the colors according to
the terminal type, then you need to read man dircolors and man dir_colors.
(basically /etc/dir_colors is an easier to read file specifying the
colors and when to apply them. dircolors takes this file and generates
the two lines above, which can then be executed from your profile script.
Different distributions may call dir_colors differently, or may already
provide a script with the two lines).
To use color you still need to do "ls --color". You can define an alias
in your .bashrc, for example I have "alias la=ls -a --color"
If you type "ls" and get a color listing, then ls is aliased to
"ls --color" (or the like). Look for this alias in /etc/profile
or .bash_profile and comment out.
C.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:10:00 GMT
Steve Withers wrote:
>
> I recompile my kernels and leave out all the stuff I have no need
> for....like NFS. I use samba because I have a hybrid Linux / Windows
> network. Thats all I need.
That sounds like a weak point, too, though. Be careful.
>
> I also used to turn off virtually everything in inetd....except now
> RH7.0 hax xinetd and it doesn't work.
Run /sbin/linuxconf --text as root, select the Control/Control service
activity entry, and disable there. A good alternative until you
get control of xinetd.d
> I have tried to use the "bind" and "only_from" parameters and they
> simply don't work....I get syntax errors even when the statements are
> eyeball identical to the docs.....very frustrating. How hard would it be
> to put a GUI front-end on that xinetd config....with a wee bit of help
> attached? Even if it was just to turn a function of or on.....Maybe that
> hsould be my first Linux prgramming effort....write an X utility that
> handles the /etc/xinetd.conf file and the /etc/xinetd.d/<whatever>
> files.
Again, use linuxconf.
> xinetd looks like a great idea....but the implementation in RH 7.0 sucks
> rotten bananas.
Blech!
Chris
--
Flipping the Bozo bit at 400 MHz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 00:54:05 GMT
In article <94ssr1$ae9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
|> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
|>
|> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> >>
|> >> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
|> >>
|> >> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
|> >> elses, any time.
|>
|> > You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
|>
|> No, I meant exactly what I typed. See dejanews for my multiple arguments
|> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
Oh, that's *really* authoritative. It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
--
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Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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From: Cristian <c{ristian}h{umberto}[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ls colors
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:15:51 GMT
Cristian <c{ristian}h{umberto}[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in your .bashrc, for example I have "alias la=ls -a --color"
> If you type "ls" and get a color listing, then ls is aliased to
> "ls --color" (or the like). Look for this alias in /etc/profile
> or .bash_profile and comment out.
should say .....
in your .bashrc, for example I have *"alias la='ls -a --color'"*
If you type "ls" and get a color listing, then ls is aliased to
"ls --color" (or the like). Look for this alias in
*.bashrc* and comment out.
C.
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From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.editors
Subject: Re: vim syntax colors
Date: 27 Jan 2001 01:19:13 GMT
In comp.editors Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> entropy wrote:
>>
>> i just installed vim on my AIX machine that i telnet into constantly (i
>> hardly ever use the machine itself, just through telnet) and can only
>> get black & white highliting. my term's set to vt100 and i know it's
>> not the consoles fault as i have "gnuls --color" working fine. i want
>> want want syntax coloring!!!! anyone have any ideas?
> My guess is that the curses library on the AIX machne doesn't support
> color. I have the same problem with Solaris.
Solaris curses supports color, and afaik so does AIX (read the manpage).
vt100's don't (never did).
http://dickey.his.com/xterm/xterm.faq.html
http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html
--
Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://dickey.his.com
ftp://dickey.his.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 27 Jan 2001 01:23:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Brian V. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <94ssr1$ae9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
> |> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
> |>
> |> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |> >>
> |> >> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
> |> >>
> |> >> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
> |> >> elses, any time.
> |>
> |> > You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
> |>
> |> No, I meant exactly what I typed. See dejanews for my multiple arguments
> |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
> Oh, that's *really* authoritative. It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
> or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
"grammar".
=====.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux *Really* Takes Off Beginning May 2001
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:27:40 GMT
"Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> From May 2001 all new Microsoft products will REQUIRE registration or
> they won't work.
>
> Clamping down on the casual piracy that most of the world's Windows PC
> rely upon. Enforcing the monopoly.
I've always thought Microsoft benefitted a lot from this piracy. All it
does is create more Microsoft users. This just sells a lot more Microsoft
products, while destroying the market for competitors' products. They could
have clamped down long ago, but I'm sure there's a good reason they didn't.
I think they're taking a gamble on this one, particularaly now, when users
*do* have other options.
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:30:01 GMT
>> |> >> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>> |> >>
>> |> >> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
>> |> >> elses, any time.
>> |>
>> |> > You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
>> |>
>> |> No, I meant exactly what I typed. See dejanews for my multiple arguments
>> |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
>
>> Oh, that's *really* authoritative. It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
>> or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
>
>"grammar".
Now, if somebody would compare Bill Gates to Hitler, we can officially
declare this thread deceased.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I Know A Joke!!
at
visi.com
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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to return to Gnome GUI
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 04:31:26 +0300
How can i return to Gnome GUI? After configuring xf86config in console (to
fix display corruption) i rebooted and all of a sudden im staring at the
login: prompt. Ctrl+Alt+(F1-F6) dont work, even Alt+F7. How can i check if
my Gnome display is fine now?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Ackman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to Install XWIN in RedHat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:31:14 -0500
On 26 Jan 2001 14:18:40 -0600, Dave Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill wrote:
>>Dear All,
>>
>>I just installed RedHat 7.0 with Server mode selected. However, it can't run
>>the Xwin and looks missing the required program (I tried XF86Config).
>>
>>Can anyone help me to install Xwin for further configuration?
The easiest way at this point is simply to boot from
your CD and pick the Upgrade option.
--
Steve Ackman
http://twovoyagers.com
Registered Linux User #79430
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:37:53 GMT
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Again, use linuxconf.
linuxconf?? I can't find that on my system anywhere!!
Oh! Wait a minute I remember killing that bug a long time ago.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.018% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:48:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Withers wrote:
>G'day
>
>I've been following developments closely on this.
>
>It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
>to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
Interesting.
>This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
>door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
>how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
>and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
>In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
>both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
>it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
>But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
>have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
>be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
>
>It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
>one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
>desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
>systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
>Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
>(European politics - outside Britain).
>
>There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
>
>Steve
Very true. Our government should have it's ass kicked for allowing
Microsoft to become a monopoly in the first place.
Charlie
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