Linux-Misc Digest #948, Volume #20 Wed, 7 Jul 99 01:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux T-Shirts (Marc Mutz)
HELP : HP-LJ 5si with Slackware 4.0 (Dinh Ton)
CORBA call for papers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Ftape and Red Hat 6.0 Info (Douglas Bollinger)
S3 Trio3D video card help ("Phil Labonte")
Re: diald and RH6.0 (Roger Prefontaine)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Dave)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Dave)
Creative Ensoniq Audio PCI ("Michael Derby")
fetchmail -k option (Mars)
Re: MODEM (Scott Lanning)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Ulrich Habel)
FREE LINUX PC (Bryan Ischo)
0soft page needs new maintainer (Conrad Sanderson)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (William Burrow)
kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!! ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 00:56:01 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux T-Shirts
Marc Mutz wrote:
>
> If you are looking for the most sweet Tuxes then visit www.emedia.de.
> It's in German, I admit, but it should be relatively straight-forward. I
> guess they will answer a mail in English language when sent to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunatly there are no real pictures of the Tuxes
> on their web page, as I remember.
> But they are the real Tuxes. If you want to check them out, this is the
> address of the manufacturer (and they are really *handmade*):
>
I checked out linuxmall.com and found the stuffed Tuxes there. They look
very similar to the one I have here beside me, however, I don't know if
they are so fluffy (right word?) and whether the linuxmall-Tuxes were
handmade.
I'll stick to 'made in Germany'.
But I'd like to see a detailed photo of the mall-Tux and if someone
could mail me one, I'd appreciate that.
Marc
ps: I just recognized a difference between them: My Tux is smiling
(could be because he's here beside me instead of in a stinking
warehouse...)
--
Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://marc.mutz.com/
University of Bielefeld, Dep. of Mathematics / Dep. of Physics
PGP-keyID's: 0xd46ce9ab (RSA), 0x7ae55b9e (DSS), 0x31748570 (DH)
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From: Dinh Ton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: HELP : HP-LJ 5si with Slackware 4.0
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:31:02 GMT
OK, at work we have a network HP-LaserJet 5si. I recently installed
Slackware 4.0 onto my box and I am trying to configure this printer
to work with Linux. I have read through the HOWTO-PRINTING
documents and followed the example in there for the LJ-5Si
(Section 11.6 - Running an "if" for remote printer)
(here is the link
http://howto.linuxberg.com/LDP/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO-11.html )
Here is what it said : **********************
One oddity of lpd is that the "if" is not run for remote printers. If you
find that you need to run an "if", you can do so by setting up a double
queue and requeueing the job. As an example, consider this printcap:
lj-5:\
:lp=/dev/null:sh:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5:\
:if=/usr/lib/lpd/filter-lj-5:
lj-5-remote:lp=/dev/null:sh:rm=printer.name.com:\
:rp=raw:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5-raw:
in light of this filter-lj-5 script:
#!/bin/sh
gs <options> -q -dSAFER -sOutputFile=- - | \
lpr -Plj-5-remote -U$5
********************************************************
But I got nothing out the other end when I printed with "lj-5".
However, when I printed with "lj-5-remote", the output had "staircasing"
pattern (as expected). Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
DT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CORBA call for papers
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:36:44 GMT
Our website, http://www.economite.com, is currently having a call for
papers on all topics related to CORBA and/or Distributed Computing.
It doesn't have to be long but it does have to relate to CORBA in some
way. Please refer to http://www.economite.com/papers.htm for a short
list of topics.
Currently we are showcasing the "Adopting CORBA" presentation created
by Dr. Tushar Hazra. http://www.economite.com/corba
For CORBA related links please visit
http://www.economite.com/links.html
Kent Kling
economite.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Bollinger)
Subject: Re: Ftape and Red Hat 6.0 Info
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 21:44:07 -0400
[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.misc and a copy was sent
to the cited author.]
Brad Melendy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Doug,
> Thanks for your posting this information. I am putting it into a safe
> place for later use. I have spent almost 8 hours trying to get the
> EXACT SAME HARDARE and SOFTWARE working. :-( I had read most of the
> HOW TO and my lack of experience with the Linux Kernel was killing me.
> Anyway, I was about to give up and go back to NT when I saw your message
> and finally found the commands to load the modules. (I think they
> should add that to the HOW TO). I was elated to see my Ditto 3200 jump
> to life and return:
Since Brad emailed me stating he was still having trouble getting
backups onto a tape, I thought I would make a follow-up post with a
step-by-step guide on how to perform a simple backup with tar and
ftape. Nothing fancy here folks, but you gotta crawl before you can
run. :)
Also, to all the Linux gurus out there, I'm hardly an expert at
this, so if you can help out with a better way or a warning about
something stupid I'm doing, please feel free to chime-in.
Ok, first lets look at my devices:
[doug@godzuki doug]$ ls -l /dev/*ft0*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jul 5 14:29 /dev/ftape ->
qft0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jul 5 14:30 /dev/nftape -
> nqft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 4 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/nqft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 36 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/nrawqft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 4 May 5 1998 /dev/nrft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 20 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/nzqft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 0 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/qft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 32 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/rawqft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/rft0
crw-rw---- 1 doug disk 27, 16 Apr 17 15:53 /dev/zqft0
As you can see, I changed ownerships of all the ft0 devices to my
normal user account so I wouldn't have to be root to run normal
backups. I also changed the ftape and nftape links to point to the
qft devices, because these are now the preferred ones (?).
Shove a tape in, wait for the drive activity to stop.
Now, lets see if things are working:
[doug@godzuki doug]$ mt -f /dev/nqft0 status
qic-117 drive type = 0x08882
File number=-1, block number=-1.
mt_resid: 0, mt_erreg: 0x0
mt_dsreg: 0xe31865, mt_gstat: 0x41000000
General status bits on (41000000):
BOT ONLINE
Well, it seems we have a tape inserted and it's rewound (Beginning
Of Tape). Also seems the kernel support is working, or we would get
a /dev/nqft0 not found error. Notice I also used the non-rewinding
device. This is a good idea since you normally use mt to move to
the next backup file on the tape and if you use the regular device
(qft0), the drive will immediately rewind the tape as soon as it's
moved ahead. Not very productive.
Ok, we'll assume the tape is good, already formatted and ready to
go. I'll erase it to clean-up any old archives.
[doug@godzuki doug]$ mt -f /dev/nqft0 erase
[doug@godzuki doug]$ mt -f /dev/nqft0 retension
Ok, I erased the tape and performed a retension. Retensioning a
tape just fastforwards the tape to the "end" of the spool and
rewinds it. You can never retension a Travan tape enough! It's a
very good idea to retension before every backup, and it only takes a
few minutes.
Now, a good thing to backup would be my home directory. Maybe I
should make sure it will fit on one tape. :P
[doug@godzuki /home]$ du doug
1.0k doug/.kde/share/applnk
1.0k doug/.kde/share/apps/kdehelp
<mega clip>
9.0k doug/.mozilla
207M doug
Good grief, how do I get all that crap in there already! This
installation is only a month old! Oh well, I have 1.6G to burn.
Let's use tar to backup. Why? Well, it's easy to use, once you
know how. :) Also, it works reasonable well. I don't recommend
compressing the tar balls, because one bad spot on the tape will
probably ruin the entire archive, install of just one file. Ouch.
There are better ways to make compressed tape backups, but that's
for a future walk-through (once I figure it out).
Ok, lets go!
[doug@godzuki /home]$ tar -cvf /dev/qft0 /home/doug
Vroom, watch the tape drive whirl, the files scroll. Let's break
down that command.
-c is for create, as in create an archive
-v is for verbose, make lotsa noise, show the files being archived
-f what follows is the device or filename
/dev/qft0 This should be our tape device
/home/doug This is what we our archiving, my home dir
Of course, the floppy tape drive isn't very fast. Matter-of-fact, I
think it's slower than the old TR-3 parallel port model I used to
have. Anyway, this is Linux, and tar doesn't use much cpu time
either, so get busy with something else!
<awhile later>
Once tar is done, you will here your tape drive rewind the tape
because we used the qft0 device.
Of course, it's a good idea to verify a backup that you store on a
tape drive. You want to make sure its good! To do this with tar,
try:
[doug@godzuki /home]$ cd /
[doug@godzuki /]$ tar -df /dev/qft0
This time:
-d is for diff, or compare
I didn't use the v for verbose command, this way only the problems
that tar finds are printed to the console, not all the hundreds of
successfully backed-up file names.
When tar is done, you will here the tape drive rewind the tape
again. Congratulations, you have made a backup!
Does your drive "shoe-shine" on one part of the tape? Would you
like to be able to list the contents of a tape? How bout this:
putting more than one tar archive on a tape!
Sure, you can have lots more fun with tar, ftape and it's support
utilities. This message, however, is getting very long. Maybe
later. Have Fun!
--
Douglas Bollinger
Mt. Holly Springs, PA 17065
My other computer runs Linux.
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From: "Phil Labonte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: S3 Trio3D video card help
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:49:10 GMT
I am installing Red Hat 6.0 and the OS is telling me that it does not
support my video card. Can someone tell me where to get the drivers for
this card for Linux?
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From: Roger Prefontaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: diald and RH6.0
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:37:51 GMT
In article <7lommh$e80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have diald up and running on RH6.0. I had to go with the
diald-0.99-0*.rpm
> from SuSE to get it to work. I am getting the following info in my
log file.
> Anyone have any ideas what diald is looking for here? tap__, I can't
find it.
Those are ethertap modules. Not exactly sure what
they are for, but...
Try adding the following to your
/etc/conf.modules:
alias tap0 ethertap
options tap0 -o tap0 unit=0
Works for me.
Roger
P.S. In your diald distribution, there should
have been a file called README.ethertap. That's
where I got that fix... you only need the one.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 01:48:43 GMT
On 06 Jul 1999 17:00:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip
Brown) wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:07:36 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >...
> >It's gotta be Solaris over Linux. Linux just isn't tested fully at
> >high-end scalability yet. I read an article last month where an NT
> >IIS 4.0 web server handily beat Linux running Apache (and later Zeus)
> >web servers in nearly every category. NT! (if you can believe it!)
>
> Oy. Wrong "evidence" to use. NT also beats solaris
> for "dynamic" pages done in a different test, although solaris + SWS was
> the hands-down winner for static page delivery.
>
gotta URL on that? I'd love to read it. The last thing I read on
Solaris (IIRC) was in PCWeek on May 9. Solaris blew the doors off NT
for webserving and other things. In that test also, Linux didn't fare
so well.
Also, "dynamic" pages? How, precisely was that defined (the details
from the article would help, I suppose). It's one thing to measure a
load based on simultaneous hits to a cache of static pages, but how
were things done for the dynamic test? Was NT serving asp? Running
java servlets? Was it Solaris x86 or Sparc? If Sparc, how was the
Sparc machine matched to its Intel counterpart? Was Solaris running
jsp? Java servlets? CGI + shell? CGI + Perl? Was a back-end database
involved? If so, Oracle? SQL Server? Sybase? Was the databse properly
tuned? What was the content of the dynamic pages? Did the clients
supply data? How much client data was supplied? What processing was
done, server side, with the client data to generate the 'dynamic'
page?
Oy Oy. Suddenly, it is not a (relatively) simple test anymore.
Usually, I don't get off much on "benchmark test results", but the
Linux v. NT article was a little different because 1. it was a
rematch, and 2. they (supposedly) had someone there from Redhat who
knew what was going on in Linux (and therefore supposedly knew how to
performance tune it properly).
excerpted from the article
+
+ Working with Red Hat programmer Zach
+ Brown, we traced the problem back to the lack
+ of a multithreaded IP stack in the Linux
+ networking subsystem, which caused a
+ performance plateau in the operating system,
+ not in the Web server.
+
Of course, the fix is probably already available for Linux (I don't
know, for sure, though). But the point is just this: I would never
bet my career on an OS that hadn't been properly or thoroughly tested
for the application at hand. Solaris has been tested by fire for
years in Mission Critical applications, Linux just hasn't (yet!)
+---------------------+---------------+
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| mindspring.com|
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| davegrantier@ |
+---------------------+---------------+
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 02:00:28 GMT
On 6 Jul 1999 02:31:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
wrote:
> [ clear and well-reasoned response snipped ]
>
> The big
> server benchmark that NT won doesn't make any sense to me, as far as
> representing any practical real-world application. It was just a
> publicity stunt.
>
agreed. But in business, guys in suits look at benchmarks. Up the
corporate food chain, you've gotta justify your decisions. Microsoft
is SO successful because they feed right into this mindset. Zero
Administration Windows = Lower Total Cost of Ownership = Corner office
and valuable Stock Options. Microsoft gives corporate customers
reasons to "feel" like they've made the right choice.
When was the last time Sun or HP or IBM held a "Scalabiltiy Day?"
They don't need to, because everybody knows that unix scales, right?
Well, Microsoft had a scalability day a while back and unveiled their
"TerraServer."
> Linux really isn't *finished* yet, as far as many markets are
> concerned. It's still got standardization and documentation and
> installability problems. Linux advocates would do well to work on
> those instead of whining about NT winning contrived benchmarks.
> And leave the big-server jobs to FreeBSD (e.g. www.yahoo,com,
> ftp.cdrom.com) for now.
>
IMHO, They've got to take "contrived benchmarks" seriously as well.
Corporate America demands it. If (when) Linux is to be taken
seriously, it will have to look and act like an Enterprise capable
system.
After all, this "contrived benchmark" test led someone to notice,
"Hey! My TCPIP stack is not multithreaded!"
Cheers,
Dave
+---------------------+---------------+
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| mindspring.com|
|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| davegrantier@ |
+---------------------+---------------+
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From: "Michael Derby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Creative Ensoniq Audio PCI
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:28:52 -0400
I have Mandrake Linux 6.0, and I noticed that it supposedly has support for
my sound card, but everytime I try to configure it, it says that one of the
effects is not supported... does anyone know how to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance.
Michael
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From: Mars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fetchmail -k option
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:40:03 +0800
Everytime I run fetchmail with -k option, it fetch all the mails from
server. Is it possible to fetch only the unread mails? Thanks.
Mars
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: MODEM
Date: 7 Jul 1999 03:03:58 GMT
Jorge Dominguez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: How i can to unlock the device ?
I think it will be /var/run/ppp0.pid or /var/lock/ppp0.pid.
If not, wherever your ppp-off (or whatever it's called) script
is (maybe /etc/ppp/), check that, because it removes lock
files if necessary. (sorry linux is at home..)
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"One should not confuse this craving for change and novelty with the
indifference of play which is in its greatest levity at the same time
the most sublime and indeed the only true seriousness." --Georg Hegel
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From: Ulrich Habel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: 06 Jul 1999 23:01:52 +0200
"Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Does anyone have any views on this matter?
>
Hi Paul ! There is a simple statement.
" No one got ever been fired for choosing IBM "
this one ... I can't remember it's content exactly. Get a SUN and
Solaris you will have the support. Get Linux you won't have the
professional support. I like Linux very much, but I woulnd't choose it
for professional tasks this time.
--
Ulrich Habel
Q:"What's the best UNIX tool to randomize lines in a file ?"
A:"Ask a novice to edit the file with vi"
ICQ: 30858270
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Subject: FREE LINUX PC
From: Bryan Ischo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 02:37:29 GMT
Hi everyone. This is not a joke. I am offering a free Linux PC
to anyone who will pay the shipping charges.
This is an old PC that a neighbor gave me because he didn't want
it. It had Windows on it but I liberated it and put RedHat 6.0
on it. I thought I might use it to test software I write in a
"slow" environment but I have never gotten around to it and now
I just want it out of my living room.
It is not the most up-to-date machine out there. It is a Digital
DECpc XL 560, from I believe 1993. It is a Pentium 60 with 24
MB of memory and a 340 MB (or so) SCSI hard disk and a 1x or 2x
SCSI CD-ROM drive. I think it was one of the first Pentium machines
built. It also has a very old PCI video card that should run X
at a very low resolution (800x600 maybe) and low color depth,
unaccelerated. It also includes an IBM PS/2 monitor.
All of the equipment works perfectly under Linux; I haven't
tried the video card though because there wasn't enough
room on the hard disk to install X. But I would expect X to
work with the video card without any problems.
First person willing to pay shipping on the computer + monitor
(not one or the other, only both), which I would estimate will
work out to $50 or so, gets it.
To summarize:
Digital DECpc XL 560
Pentium 60
24 MB RAM
340 MB SCSI Hard Drive
1x (possibly 2x) SCSI CD-ROM drive
VGA video card
1.44 floppy, keyboard, mouse
15'' VGA monitor
Most excellent all-metal "bombproof" case
Available to the first person willing to shell out the $50 or
so shipping charges. Or, if you're in the NYC area, you can
pick it up for free.
Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Bryan
--
========================================================================
Bryan Ischo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1995 Honda VFR750
Yonkers, NY, USA http://www.ischo.com RedHat Linux 6.0
========================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conrad Sanderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: 0soft page needs new maintainer
Date: 7 Jul 1999 02:44:45 GMT
The "Why you shouldn't use Microsoft Products" web page,
at http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/~csand/md/0soft.html
needs a new maintainer.
I need to concentrate on my studies and hence I do not have
the time (nor the energy) to maintain it properly.
If you have the itch and are willing to maintain this site
(it involves a bit of work, mainly scanning the web for
interesting news stories) and you run or have access to a
web server site that's going to stick around for a while,
please let me know.
--
Conrad Sanderson - Microelectronic Signal Processing Laboratory
Griffith University, Queensland, Australia
http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: 7 Jul 1999 03:40:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:59:25 -0500,
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
>>required considerable scalability. I'm trying to choose between Linux
>>and Solaris for the operating system.
>
>Also consider FreeBSD. Linux and Solaris might not be the only useful
>alternatives. :-)
Or MacOS X, the latest incarnation of Unix on the block.
<http://newmedia.com/newmedia/99/06/labreport/Mac_vs_World.html>
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: kpackage won't install on RH 6.0. Help!!
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 23:58:05 -0400
For some reason I can't get the rmp file for kpackage to open. I issued the
thee rpm -i <file name> command and it responds can't open file. I tried
the same file from different sites and got the same message. I am able to
get other rpms to load. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Ed
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