Linux-Misc Digest #948, Volume #24               Mon, 26 Jun 00 20:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src? (Robie Basak)
  Server monitoring ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: linux as a client :-( (Charles Philip Chan)
  Re: linux as a client :-( (Charles Philip Chan)
  Re: linux as a client :-( (Charles Philip Chan)
  Re: Setting console fonts... (Alex Butcher)
  Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Font Colors in 6.2 won't change ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Downloadspeed limit with apache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Who is loading the system and why? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
  Porblems with my ISDN Card (Joris Maes)
  Re: Server monitoring (brian moore)
  Re: Struggling with postfix (AlexPGP)
  Re: Linux ISPs?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Problems NFS mounting from Solaris to Linux (Linux is server) (Kenny McCormack)
  Re: Shell scripting and chmod +s (Dirk Reckmann)
  is there a port to windows media player? ("Daniel Klimkowski")
  Re: stability of culture of helpfulness ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  insmod failed? ("Devon Harding")
  Re: Who is loading the system and why? (David Steuber)
  Re: Easy way to send files through FTP... (Doug Priebe)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: Do I need linux-2.2xx source in /usr/src?
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:07:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 24 Jun 2000 17:16:00 GMT, Andrew Purugganan said:
>Do I need to keep the linux-2.2.13mdk source in /usr/src? I see a bunch
>of subdirectories, and some *.h files in there that are taking up space.
>Is it common to keep it in expanded form for say, compiling purposes or
>something? Like the includes?

You may need it for compiling things, especially the includes. Keeping
/usr/src/linux/.config is also a good idea.

Robie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Server monitoring
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:39:49 GMT

Do you need a tool that monitors your servers constantly and
reports any problems to you by mail.

Go to http://systemguard.tripod.com/


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Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jun 2000 14:43:51 +0500

>>>>> "Edward" == Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    > RPM may be GPL, but many programs in RPM are not.  There are
    > enough custom changes to stop them from running in non-RH
    > systems.  RH extensions are spread all over in different
    > libraries.  Why else can they charge $150 for supports of RH
    > locked-in systems?

Really? I have all sorts of packages intended for Redhat systems
running on my SuSE system right now. I guess according to you, there
is no market for such tools as alien.

What do you mean by "RH extensions are spread all over in different
libraries"?

Charles


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Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jun 2000 14:46:28 +0500

>>>>> "Vilmos" == Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    > Please stop badmouthing RedHat. RPM uses pristine source.

Yes, and the pristine source is **always** in the source RPM file. All
changes/bugfixes are implimented as patches.

Charles



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Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jun 2000 14:58:29 +0500

>>>>> "Edward" == Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    > Sorry for using the wrong language.  You just rephased my
    > comments.  RH has enough customizations to make RPM packages
    > useless on non-redhat systems.  I had a hard time installing
    > Sybase (rpm only) on Debian some times ago.

What was the problem? Dependency issues? Unfortunately all Linux
distributions use different names for the libraries. If you know that
you do have the libraries installed, all you have to do is to use the
nodeps and maybe the force option.

    > Have you tried installing "standard" drivers on RH systems?  I
    > had to install standard modules, then base modules and finally
    > the entire kernel and modules to make things work.

Are they for the some kernel version? Some modules don't work across
kernel versions. If you have RPM installed, it is better to download
the source RPM and rebuild the package by doing a:

        RPM -bb foobar.spec

Charles

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Butcher)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Setting console fonts...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:25:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 04:02:39 -0230, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi guys,
>
>How can I set the font size for my console...!!!  I used to do it in DOS
>with the 'mode' command...  Any such command, utility, or setting to use
>for linux...   Thanks,

SVGAtextmode (or stm as it's commonly abbreviated) is the most flexible.

>-- 
>Trevor Penney, 
>A+, Network+ Certified
>----------------------
>That's alright, I still got my guitar...

Best Regards,
Alex.
-- 
Alex Butcher   Using Linux since '95 - because windows are too easy to break.
Berkshire, UK  URLBLAST:slashdot.org:www.freshmeat.net:www.deja.com:lwn.net:
PGP:0x33489FD3 www.tomshardware.com:www.stardiv.de:www.gimp.org:www.google.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: tool for joining various (text) files, editing and splitting them
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:35:25 GMT

Uwe Brauer wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am looking for a simple tool to join various (text) files (which say
> have the same extension, but are located in various directories) to a
> single file, editing them and finally splitt them again.
>
> Does anybocy know about such a tool,
>
> Thanks
>
> Uwe Brauer

There's no reason you should need an extra tool. 'vi' or 'emacs' will
work. Just load */*/*.txt or whatever into 'vi' or 'emacs'.  If you were
to do it in 'vi' you'd just make your changes, :wn to write the file,
then move to the next one. It's very charming :)

-Kara


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Font Colors in 6.2 won't change
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:29 +0100

Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:32:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <<8j7ig2$nn5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>I'm running RH 6.2 with Gnome My problem is this.
>>when I bring up any terminal and so a ls -la I my
>>directories are showing up in a blurry blue font.
>>Even though I can go into settings----colors---
>>and change the background and foreground colors
>>of my font (which  do change) my directories
>>still stay blue. How can I go about changing this?

> Most people *want* ls to be aliased to "ls --color=tty" because the
> colors convey information more easily than putting / or * on the end of
> filenames.  Just "unalias ls" in your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile.

True, but blue is a silly colour to choose (low contrast).
I have my directories set up to be shown as brown (dark yellow).

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|            in            | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Downloadspeed limit with apache
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:27 GMT

Download limit with apache

How can i set a download speed limit of files on my apache server ?
I want that visitors of my site have a download speed limit of 5 kb/s,
how can i set this in apache ?

Or if it can't with apache, is there an other way to set the download
limit ?


Thanks in advance,

Daans


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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is loading the system and why?
Date: 26 Jun 2000 16:53:06 -0400

David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) writes:
> 
> ' >Why do you think it is being loaded? 
> ' 
> ' Because there is roughly an average of 1 process waiting in the queue, but
> ' the cpu is practically idle. This can be confusing if you consider LA to be
> ' cpu-based only.
> 
> Aye, it is the load average I am concerned about.
> 
> ' What is most probably causing it is an IO process of some sort; a big ftp
> ' job, copying lots of files, that sort of thing, which doesn't use much cpu
> ' but hammers the various IO devices.
> 
> The disk is quiet.  The network is quiet.
> 
> ' Do a ps aux, and see if there's anything obviously working away that shifts
> ' data.
> 
> david@solo:> uptime
>  12:37pm  up 13:09,  3 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00
> david@solo:> ps aux
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM  SIZE   RSS TTY STAT START   TIME COMMAND

[snip a bunch of sleepers]

> root       157  0.0  0.3  1124   468  ?  D    23:28   0:00
> /usr/sbin/apmd -w 10

this apmd is in the D state.  doesn't that mean waiting for data from
some IO device?  perhaps this is stuck and causing your load of 1.
this is just a wild guess from the earlier comment about IO.  maybe
i have no idea what i am talking about.  please correct me if so.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:17:24 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Andrew E. Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This is one of the stranger postings I've seen in newsgroups.

Thank you.




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From: Joris Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Joris Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Porblems with my ISDN Card
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:40:18 GMT

Hello,

    I'm trying to install my isdn card, but i ran into a lot of
problems. My
card wasn't supported by i4l so I got the modules from the manufacturer,
and
placed them into the right directory "/lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc". The
modules are compiled for the kernel 2.2.12 but they may be loaded with
higher kernels acoording to the manufacturer. BTW, my card is an ASUSCOM
P-IN100-ST-D ( a pci card). There were two modules: isdn.o en hisax.o.

   I loaded isdn.o with the command "#insmod -f isdn.o", I got a warning
about the version, but the module was loaded. But when I try to load the
hisax module ("#insmod -f hisax.o") I got the following error

Warning: kernel-module version mismatch
 hisax.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.12
 while this kernel is version 2.2.12-20

hisax.o: init_module: Device or resource busy

  The problem could be an IRQ conflict, in Winblows I have to disable one
of
serial ports.

   I disabled both the serieal ports in BIOS(AWARD) and  I disabled
PnP-OS.

   Also when I do a depmod -a I get the following errors

   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/dss1_divert.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/pcbit.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdnloop.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdn_bsdcomp.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/isdn.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/icn.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/hisax.o : unresolved symbol(s)
   /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/misc/capidrv.o : unresolved symbol(s)

  I hope you can answer the following questions, or point me the way to a
good HOWTO or FAQ(although i already read a lot of them).

-Is it an IRQ conflict??
-If yes, how do I solve it?

My configuration
  RH6.1 with kernel version 2.2.12-20
  AMD-K7 500 Mhz, 64MB RAM
  NIC: Realtek 8139
  SBLive(doesn't work yet in Linux)
  Riva TNT2 Ultra M64

  Thanks, Joris, If you have any answers responses are welcome at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or in the newsgroup, don't send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. If this is the wrong newsgroup, please excuse me and point me to the
right
one.





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Server monitoring
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:43:39 GMT

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:39:49 GMT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you need a tool that monitors your servers constantly and
> reports any problems to you by mail.
> 
> Go to http://systemguard.tripod.com/

This isn't Free Software.

See http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon/html -- Mon is GPL'd
and capable of monitoring all sorts of things from free disk space
to memory, to processes, to network interfaces (ie, did the T1 on your
Cisco die?) to servers...   My favorite monitor is one that ensures
that HP OpenView hasn't puked on itself and is still running.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: AlexPGP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Struggling with postfix
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:13:30 -0500

* On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:16:30AM +0000, Andrew Onifer wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:11:45 GMT, AlexPGP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >My proposed solution is to figure out how I can *force* 'twain' to
> >relay through my ISPs mail server, because if I can do that, the
> >problem goes away, since my ISP's mail server will accept mail from
> >my static IP address.
> >
> >Of course, if there's a better way to do this, I'm all ears.
> 
> Have you checked the postfix faq?  http://postfix.merit.edu/faq.html
> 
> I have a line in main.cf that says "relayhost = mail.mindspring.com"
> I think that's all you need, but I don't have a linux box sitting
> between me and my ISP.

I did check the postfix faq, and I thought I'd tried this, but upon
closer examination, the parameter 'relayhost' in the faq became
'relay_domains' when it came to editing the config file. 

Let me give it a try, starting with this post. :^)

Cheers...
-- 
Alex Lane * Webster, Texas, USA * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.galexi.com/alex/
      DH/DSS PGP keyID: 0xD94803CD  -*-  RSA PGP keyID: 0xCABD6FF9
The only man who never makes a mistake is the man who never does anything.
                                                          (Theodore Roosevelt)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux ISPs?!
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:16:30 -0600

In article <8ituli$37v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) wrote:
> I checked out Freeweb, but their registration link is broken. 
> 
> Are there any other new ISPs for Linux?

I had that problem and sent email. I got an answer 2 days later
saying the link was fixed, and it was. You might try the same.
 
> What is kppp?  I tried checking the man pages and came up empty. 

A graphic dialup program, sorta like 'Doze DUN (or DUMB, in my
estimation).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problems NFS mounting from Solaris to Linux (Linux is server)
Date: 26 Jun 2000 17:16:33 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8j8bo8$2g2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8j855r$hit$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Kenny McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On the Solaris (2.5.1) side (w.x.y.z is IP addr of Linux machine (hard IP,
>>no DNS):
>>
>># mount w.x.y.z:/tmp !$
>>mount w.x.y.z:/tmp /splat
>>nfs mount: w.x.y.z: NFS service not responding
>>nfs mount: retrying: /splat
>>^C# (I hit ^C here to interrupt it)
>>
>>and on the Linux side, in /var/log/messages (fluffy is machine name):
>>
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:13 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:18 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:18 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>Jun 26 12:21:28 fluffy mountd[469]: authenticated mount request from sunmachine:964
>>Jun 26 12:21:28 fluffy kernel: svc: unknown version (3)
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
>Well, on the face of it looks as though the Linux box is advertising NFS
>version 3 support through its portmapper, but that its kernel doesn't actually
>support version 3, so it all comes apart.
>
>Try forcing NFS version 2 at the Solaris end by using
>
>   mount -o vers=2 w.x.y.z:/tmp /splat
>
>and see whether that works any better.

Yes!  Many, many thanks.

The net works (I.e., post a question - get an answer!)

(Usually, it doesn't work so well, but when it does, it's beautiful...)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Reckmann)
Subject: Re: Shell scripting and chmod +s
Date: 26 Jun 2000 22:19:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:24:52 +0200, Wolfgang Fritz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> PROBLEM:
>> 
>> I want to provide Internet dialup using ISDN/Modem to a group
>> of people. To configure/initializing
>> the dialup they have to call programs that are only accesible
>> to root (isdnctrl for example) but I
>> don't want the programs 'chmod +s'. Instead I wrote a
>> shell script, that does the technical configuration
>> stuff for the logged in user. To gain access to the root-programs
>> I 'chmod +s' this script.
>> 
>> BUT: It didn't worked. Even if the script has the setuid bit set,
>> it is still denied to execute the root-programs.
>> 
>> Why? And what can I do to make it work?

>Take a look at sudo (man sudo). I use it for this kind of problem.

I had a simmilar problem a few weeks ago, and found the 'sudo' workaround.
But still i'm asking myself: Why doesn't the u+s bit work for scripts?
(I actually only tried #!/bin/sh ones...)

Ciao,
  Dirk

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From: "Daniel Klimkowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:10:10 GMT

I need to know if there is a port of Windows media player to Linux or
anything that emulates it.  I'm wanting it so that I can stream audio from
online radio stations and most of them require Windows Media Player.



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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:39:06 -0500

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

+ In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006252222390.4371-
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
+   "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ > You are a real piece of work.  Learn to spell, get an idea of what
+ > you are talking about, then maybe post if you have something useful
+ > to contribute, troll.
+ 
+ I believe that would make you the troll-ee. Nice spelling flame too!

Not the 'troll-ee', but the *plonker*. :-) Big difference.

anm
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From: "Devon Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: insmod failed?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:44:17 -0400

I'm getting "insmod eth1 failed" during boot-up, but i'm able to manually to
bring up the ethernet like this:

# insmod 3c509
# ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1

How can I enable this through boot-up.  The device it a 3Com 509b on eth1

Thanks,

-Devon



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Subject: Re: Who is loading the system and why?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:59:58 GMT

Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

' [snip a bunch of sleepers]
' 
' > root       157  0.0  0.3  1124   468  ?  D    23:28   0:00
' > /usr/sbin/apmd -w 10
' 
' this apmd is in the D state.  doesn't that mean waiting for data from
' some IO device?  perhaps this is stuck and causing your load of 1.
' this is just a wild guess from the earlier comment about IO.  maybe
' i have no idea what i am talking about.  please correct me if so.

I have no idea what the D stat means.  However, I did see apmd in the
list twice.  I took a chance and ran the /sbin/init.d/apmd stop
command, and the load started to drop.

This is a portable computer, but I never seem to run it off the
battery.  apm still works.  I'm fine now, thanks.

-- 
David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.

All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than others.
        -- Charles Babbage Orwell

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From: Doug Priebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.programming
Subject: Re: Easy way to send files through FTP...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:08:22 -0500

I normally use wget
http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html

Hendrix wrote:

> Hi guys.
>
> Is there a quick and easy method of sending a file to an FTP
> site...!!!!!!!  I looking for a shell script, perl script, C/C++
> program...  Anything, as long as it is fairly simple...
>
> Basically, what I want it to do is to connect to the ftp server with an
> already defined username and password, and automatically send the
> file... I would like the whole process to be transparent...  When the
> script/program is executed, it will do the task and then terminate...
> Nothing needs to be inputted by the user, and nothing needs to be
> returned to the screen...
>
> Sincerely, and thanks...
> --
> Trevor Penney,
> A+, Network+ Certified
> ----------------------
> That's alright, I still have my guitar...!!!!


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