Linux-Misc Digest #948, Volume #26 Sun, 28 Jan 01 13:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: crontab blues (Doug O'Leary)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 (Marijan Peh)
raid support for abit VP6? ("Jan Vandesompele")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (jtnews)
Re: [slakware] bin upgrade to glibc (2.1.2->2.2.1)? (Thomas Zajic)
turbo pascal for linux (Dirk Groeneveld)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? (Dick Wisan)
Re: ie for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does this Linux application exist? (Robert Jones)
kpanel refuses work (Dedicated to all Manson-Fans)
Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab? (Joost Gevers)
Re: Help Cant work in Gnome ("NG_lurker")
Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux? (Mark Post)
Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors?? ("Lloyd Llewellyn")
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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crontab blues
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:09:20 -0800
In addition to R.Jone's and P.Colquhoun's suggestion, ensure you source
in the proper environment. Cron typically runs with a very small initial
environment. I'm not sure of mysql; however, if it's anything like
Oracle, you need a number of enviornment variables set to ensure proper
access. Those env vars are set when you're running it from the command
line; they're not set when kicked off via cron.
Doug
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marijan Peh)
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:18:43 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tobias Schenk writes:
>Hi,
>
>A 'modprobe iptable_filter' helps here.
>Perhaps a 'depmod -a' before is needed
Part of /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes
Upgrade to at *least* these software revisions before thinking you've
encountered a bug! If you're unsure what version you're currently
running, the suggested command should tell you.
Again, keep in mind that this list assumes you are already
functionally running a Linux 2.2 kernel. Also, not all tools are
necessary on all systems; obviously, if you don't have any PCMCIA (PC
Card) hardware, for example, you probably needn't concern yourself
with pcmcia-cs.
o Gnu C 2.91.66 # gcc --version
o Gnu make 3.77 # make --version
o binutils 2.9.1.0.25 # ld -v
o util-linux 2.10o # fdformat --version
o modutils 2.4.0 # insmod -V
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
o e2fsprogs 1.19 # tune2fs --version
o pcmcia-cs 3.1.21 # cardmgr -V
o PPP 2.4.0 # pppd --version
o isdn4k-utils 3.1beta7 # isdnctrl 2>&1|grep
version
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From: "Jan Vandesompele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: raid support for abit VP6?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:13:22 +0100
Does anyone know how I can get my linux distro to work with my Hotrod
UDMA/raid controller? I can't install the Redhat 7.0 distro because the
install program says it cannot find any partitions to install on. Mandrake
7.2 is installed right now, but my partitions are not recognized correctly
during the installatioin process. I have managed however to install the
disto on my pc. I can only boot from a floppy however. I tried installing
lilo but that didn't work. I executed /etc/lilo, and got no error messages.
He added al the options normally. When i rebooted however, all i get is "LI"
instead of "LILO".
My setup consists of a Abit VP6 mobo, with integrated HotRod IDE UDMA/ raid
controller. I have two disks of 14,3 Gb configured in raid 1. My disks
appear as "/dev/hde" and "/dev/hdg" under linux fdisk. This is ok I guess.
There are no drives attached to my normal IDE connectors so hda,hdb,hdc,hdd
are not used. My drives are connected to the raid controller, on a different
connector, so both as master drives. So, hde and hdg seem ok to me. I have
created a linux partition of 4Gb at the beginning of my drives, plus one
swap partition of 250Mb.
Do i have to recompile my kernel for RAID support or something? I have to
recompile anyway, because my kernel is not compiled for my dual cpu setup
anyway.
Any suggestions?
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:27:54 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Who cares about politics or government?
As far as I'm concerned most of the world
governments impose high taxes and do much
more than they should do "for the people".
Everything except law enforcement and the military
should be privatized and out of government
hands. Then maybe things will get better.
Science and technology really doesn't "belong"
to one country or another, to suggest otherwise
is rather silly. The perceived inequities
of today can be really fleeting. All it takes
is a few key employees to move from one country
to another and to setup a corporation and, bang,
the balance of power has changed.
Steve Withers wrote:
>
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
> But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
>
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
>
> There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
>
> Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: [slakware] bin upgrade to glibc (2.1.2->2.2.1)?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:30:10 GMT
On 28/01/01, Ray Fencey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> i'm currently considering an upgrade of the c libs (libc 2.1.2) that
> are on my linux box - slackware 7.0 dist - by grabbing the bins taht
> are dist from the slackare-current archive for which the libc version
> is 2.2.1
> [ ... ]
> any info, pointers would be appreciated
Go to <http://www.deja.com/forms/mid.shtml> and search for Message-ID
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
HTH,
Thomas
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From: Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: turbo pascal for linux
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 15:30:44 +0100
Hi!
For various reasons, I had to write a program in Turbo Pascal 7.0.
I want this program to run on linux. Is there a way?
I didn't use any of the units Turbo Pascal comes with, but I did use
objects.
Dirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:23:55 GMT
"Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>I do not believe the assertion that it's technically impossible to
>produce a
>graphical web page layout program that produces correct code.
Define "correct", especially as far as web page layout is
concerned.
>It doesn't
>have to support every feature, and can purposely *not* support features
>that
>would break HTML.
[...]
The main problem with the original question "no WYSIWYG editor
for HTML" is the fact that HTML itself simply isn't WYSIWYG-capable
(not to mention the doubtable meaning of WYSIWYG, anyways).
There presently is nothing that produces even being half-way WYSIWYG
HTML out there - because it doesn't exist. HTML is "hypertext
markup language" - and that's it. There are so many different
interpretations of the de-facto-W3C standard, that it is nowadays
virtually impossible to claim that any editor was capable of
producing HTML-output that would exactly work the way the designer
meant it to be.
The closest you could get is a compatible GIF with image-maps.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Wisan)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux?
Date: 28 Jan 2001 16:00:44 GMT
In article <93q23j$hjt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>
>Linux Format magazine recommended Mahogany as a GUI client, or Mutt as a
>text-based client.
>
>www.wxwindows.org/Mahogany/
>www.mutt.org/
Alas:
Not Found
The requested URL /Mahogany/ was not found on this server.
Apache/1.3.14 Server at www.wxwindows.org Port 80
:-(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ie for linux
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:58:47 GMT
Sudhakar R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: does there exist ie for linux?
Try www.win4lin.com. Works like a champ
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does this Linux application exist?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:30:25 -0600
Robert Heller wrote:
> Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:28:00 -0600, wrote :
>
> RJ> I have a project in mind and I'd like to use existing software if it
> RJ> exists. Any URLs or "man xxx" replies would be appreciated. What I'd
> RJ> like to do is monitor a serial port for a contact closure and when one
> RJ> is detected, dial several (3 or 4) phone numbers. I know the UPS
> RJ> software I use (powstatd) could probably be bent a little to handle the
> RJ> first requirement, but I don't know about having it dial phone numbers.
>
> The source code to powerd is available -- this means it can do
> *anything* your computer can do. You could launch a VGA or X11
> fireworks program, send one (or more) ATDxxxx commands to your modem,
> send WAV files to your sound card, etc. Or you can write a small
> program that uses ioctl() to monitor the serial port.
>
> Actually, powerd is configured with a config file containing the command
> scripts to run (powstatd is probably the same). Instead of the shutdown
> command being just "/sbin/shutdown -h +5", it can point to a script file
> that runs /usr/sbin/chat one or more times, THEN runs "/sbin/shutdown -h
> +5".
Upon closer examination, powstatd isn't that easy to bend. :-( It appears
that it uses PFM (or lib functions) to signal init which, in turn, runs the
appropriate script. From /etc/inittab:
# UPS signals a power outage.
pf:12345:powerfail:/sbin/powstatd.fail
# UPS signals power restored before the shutdown kicks in.
pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/powstatd.ok
# UPS signals low battery power: emergency shutdown.
pn:12345:powerfailnow:/sbin/powstatd.low
The scripts then schedule or cancel a shutdown or shut off the UPS,
respectively.
Of course, I could hardware OR the contact closure I plan to use with the
power fail signal from the UPS and modify the powstatd.fail script as needed
and *probably* cause no harm because the added input would *probably* go
inactive before the 5 minute timeout period expired. I had hoped a more
elegant solution was available but hey, beggars can't be choosers!
Before I get too carried away on modifying stuff, I've gotta get my tape
backup problem resolved. But that's a whole 'nother matter.
Thanks for your reply!
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period of time.
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8:45am up 13:31, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:01:26 +0100
From: Dedicated to all Manson-Fans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kpanel refuses work
Since I did some experiments with the installation of KDE 2.0.1 (which
all failed) kpanel refuses work. It runs and that's hardly all. If I try
to launch any Application it happens simply nothing. I already have
reinstalled and uninstalled and reinstalled again the whole KDE . Any
ideas?
If it is useful, here is the Information about my Linux and my KDE: It's
Redhat Linux 6.0 with KDE 1.1.1
Thank you
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From: Joost Gevers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: who's rewriting /etc/fstab?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:27:47 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Snip . . .
> >It's too bad, as I've been using PQ's Partition Magic and Boot
> >Magic for some time and am generally satisfied. Maybe they'll
> >improve Drive Image in the future but the current 4.0 release
> >is worthless.
> >
> Well it at last it is making sense!
> A while back I bought a new HD. When I installed it, I decided to take
> some off the swap partition and some off my OS/2 and NT partitions and
> add them to my Linux partition. All went well after using Pattion Magic
> 4.01. That is Nt booted just fine. OS/2 booted just fine. But when I
> booted to Linux, it threw up. I retried several times but it did the
> same thing. So I booted to NT, looked around the net and found ext2
> driver for NT, thank God. My suspicions were right, there was a line in
> the /etc/fstab file that I had not put in. It was trying to mount hd19,
> where as it should have been trying to mount hdb1!!!
> I posted to a Linux NG,trying to find out what happend. Only one person
> guessed that it was linuxconf's doing.
>
> Now , based my experience and yours, I know it was PM.
> I have used Partion Magic for a long time, and always liked it until
> now. I wonder if the newer versions of PM have the same bug in it.
>
> Thanks for confirming my hunches.
>
> Masoud
I have experienced an identical problem with Partition Magic 5.0. Adding
two partition before my /dev/hda8 results in a changed fstab. /dev/hda8
becomes /dev/hda10.
Removing the paritions results in /dev/hd19
So if it is PM which causes the problem, it is not solved in 5.0, maybe in
6.0
Joost
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From: "NG_lurker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help Cant work in Gnome
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:25:14 +0300
Thanks a lot Markku. Your tip is a light in the tunnel for Im really going
nuts of this problem. Considering i get this update, how do i patch this to
my RH7? Im just a newbie learning my way to Linux and Unix commands,
mounting, moving around the shell and new stuffs like that. Still reading,
reading and reading when i get the chance ..... Is running update similar to
"run" command in windows?
I re-installed RH7 again selecting custom in monitor/video section expecting
the prob to go away. Nope, still there. I can play around in Gnome but not
for long. When the corruption gets out of hand have to wait for screensaver
to kickin to "refresh" the screen. Then i log out.
TIA
> The version of XFree86 delivered with RH7 doesn't work properly with
> Savage4 graphics chips. You can "fix" it by turning off hardware
> acceleration, but that makes the display update horribly slow. There's
> an updated XFree86 3.3.6 server at S3's website
>
(http://www.s3.com/default.asp?menu=support&submenu=S3_Graphic_Chips&item=dr
ivers&product=Savage4_395)
> that works with acceleration on, or you could try upgrading to XFree86
> version 4.0.2 (from http://www.xfree86.org).
>
> --
> Markku Kolkka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc,alt.os.linux.suse,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Full-featured, reliable POP-mail client for Linux?
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:34:27 GMT
On 28 Jan 2001 16:00:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Wisan) wrote:
>In article <93q23j$hjt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>Linux Format magazine recommended Mahogany as a GUI client, or Mutt as a
>>text-based client.
>>www.wxwindows.org/Mahogany/
>>www.mutt.org/
>Alas:
> Not Found
> The requested URL /Mahogany/ was not found on this server.
It's been moved to http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/ I just checked that
URL, and it works.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: "Lloyd Llewellyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What - no WYSIWYG HTML editors??
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:38:53 GMT
> There presently is nothing that produces even being half-way WYSIWYG HTML out
> there - because it doesn't exist. HTML is "hypertext markup language" - and
> that's it. There are so many different interpretations of the de-facto-W3C
> standard, that it is nowadays virtually impossible to claim that any editor
> was capable of producing HTML-output that would exactly work the way the
> designer meant it to be.
This is from another article in this thread:
> The W3C is the HTML standards body. Amaya is the W3C's testbed
> browser/editor. Any HTML output by Amaya is W3C compliant.
> (read "any-browser" compliant if you wish)
Is this statement accurate?
If so - great, put a usable front-end on Amaya, and you have a graphical web
page design tool that outputs HTML
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